I don't play League anymore, but still follows champ releases to see what interesting stuff can be created in the lore and while Zeri, personality wise, wasn't my cup of tea (Kinda generic rebel kid with lightning powers) I'm in absolute love with Renata Glasc. She feels that Business Auntie archtype that I never knew I wanted.
Well, thank god I dropped League when Viego was released. I started playing with the addition of Bard and I wasn't much into the lore till the almost end and when I learned abot the Ruined King and the Ruination fuckery, I was having brainstorms with my friends about how the Ruined Kng wuld be, some time later he ended up being a twig that is 80% crying about his dead wife and that made me gave up after the storm of E-Boys and Girls flooding the releases.
Friendly reminder that Shyvana can theoretically stay in dragon form indefinitely if she has enough attack speed and there are enough enemies. Renata R gives her both
On paper yeah but in practice it will never happen. You need iirc 2.5 attack speed just to 0 the delay, so there is no realistic way to build up what you've already lost. And it stalls your waveclear, as only auto attacks give ult charge, so E and W only take away the charge you'd get with autos. I hope that will be a thing adresses in her rework. And it's rather easy problem to solve, just make every instance of damage give some charge, like post-rework-pre-mini-rework Karma.
A funny thing about her R is that, that once you ult someone while they are doing drake or baron, and they kill it while under the effect of her R, Your team gets the buff and not theirs. She'll be a enemy junglers worst nightmare and i LOVE it.
A couple of things to bring up with her w: -The attack speed and movespeed aren't very high, both lower than lulu's w unless and sometimes even while at max potency, depending on the level. The duration is about a second higher at max rank, with around a 6 second higher cd. -The movespeed only works while moving TOWARDS ENEMIES, so it can't be used to get an adc out of a crunch or to kite. -The transfer to temp health DOES NOT CLEANSE CC, nor does it stop any overkill damage from transferring to the second health bar. -The revive sets the target at 35% hp, and can only happen once. It's also worth noting that the revive on this is her only form of notable direct buff to her adc, as her rocket shield is not very large and on a notable cooldown. Given all of these, I feel as though her w, while certainly a strong ability, is not nearly as game breaking or OP as some people are saying it is.
I find it hilarious that Skooch freaked out at the No Stasis thing when that's the thing that makes it the most balanced, it's not a Get Out Of Jail free card like Zilean R It's more like a Janna shield when at 1hp
@@JustJoseph. Np, I was paranoid about this ability being busted cause I really liked her design, so I spent like 30 mins looking at streams and testing in the pbe trying to figure out how it works. I was very pleasantly surprised.
@@greengreen110 Theres still a good number of enchanters Yuumi on release, Lulu is still strong, Karma had to get nerfed, Janna was/is making a comeback, and Nami in the right hands.
@@robertluna7471 Wasn't Yuumi on release absolute garbage? It was after they over-buffed her *and* people stopped taking flash that she was seen as OP.
Tbf, I think he ment supports that he finds are scary personally. Like a lulu is scary, but lulu herself won't do anything. Its the adc lulu is buffing that does. Renata is more scary in she actually doesn't need an adc to have a presence
She might actually be broken enough to bring back a niche for kalista: burst kalista. Kalista passive plus Renata passive plus mandate and both take electrocute. Just a thought.
"There are no supports that can become a problem! They help others become a problem, but they don't become a problem themselves." Skooch casually forgetting that Pyke and Senna are supports.
I think the lack of a GA animation makes her W SIGNIFICANTLY better to play against. Instead of needing to sit and wait for them to revive to hit them to stop the true res, you just keep hitting the thing till thing die. It makes more sense and feels better. The GA animation would make the ability feel disjointed and painful in teamfights
Nah but consider, you don’t need to stop the true res, you can just bounce at that point. If you’re equally fed, especially in laning phase, I don’t care who your Sup is, Renata will always win because her ally just gets to fight longer. In teamfights, the true res will be so insanely easy with how fast people die.
Seriously? Your issue is having to wait? Okay buddy, my mistake for thinking that this was a serious conversation. I guess that the 1v2 while the carry is reviving and the ability to set up CC and damaging abilities for when the rev animation finishes are simply too much for an iron player that has trouble having to fathom right clicking someone else after popping someones GA.
@@professorfrog7181 He is right but for different reasons cc stays on them and they actually receive overflow damage apparently. So it is really hard to actually get the kill if you were cc’d and bursted. Though note: this is all stuff I have been told by someone who played the pbe and I have not tested this myself. So it very well could be wrong but for now this is my belief.
Ah, the clear outcome of years of Piltovan oppression. Is it any surprise that it would give rise to someone like this? Silco was clearly making headway and earned the slot as the Zaun head boss, but this woman right here? You can just feel the hate for piltovans and (Minor) preference for Zanites. Good work, Riot. Also, I’m so glad she called out Seriphines pity party singing as exactly what it is. It takes more than singing and a good attitude to fix years of death and oppression.
RIGHT? They already made a two characters who actually do good things for Zaun in hopes of fucking of making life better for the average person (Ekko and Zeri). They do Seraphines job better than Seraphine. But this ladh actually calls her out. Shes like Sylas except Glasc isnt a revolutionary she just wants to burn the mfer down. Shes the Villain Zaun deserves. More interesting than Urgot, or Singed or Sylas for demacia. Shes a real threat. One that Piltover doesnt know or care about because shes smart. Shes insane. The best revolutionary.
@@mudawott Sylas is 100% a threat to Demacia though and if he continues to unite more mages from across the Frejord he will likely sack part of the city. On the next go around, Galio can't just be summoned on a whim.
Sion dies, but he got Renata’d so he didn’t, then he dies again but Zilean ulted him so he didn’t, then he dies again but GA procs so he didn’t, then he finally dies but chemtech soul lets him fight more, and then lastly his passive kicks in.
If W is instant, I can see people raging whether it works or not. If someone dies with the W and some enemy immediately goes down, the enemy'll be mad. If someone with the W dies and they still immediately get re-bursted back down in half a second, the allies are gonna be salty.
Her ult, despite having the potential to shred the endemy team, has a lot of counters like yasuo's windwall, braum's shield, anivia's ice wall, morgana's shield, sivir, mundo, olaf, and the one who will be the most popular coumterpick, samira....
Most of these aren't real counters or are just too rare. People hardly ever play Sivir/Braum/Olaf/Mundo/Anivia (not to mention Anivia walling off a melee hypercarry will be a 1 in 100 games situation). Also Mundo/Olaf in no way counter her, they aren't the threat when it comes to Renata's ult. Morgana, Yasuo and Samira are good counters though. There are also items available for everyone: QSS, Edge of Night, Banshee and Zhonya. Also cleanse might work against it.
I JUST HAD THE EPIPHANY THAT RIOT INTENDED TO RELEASE THESE CHARACTERS EARLIER! Think about it, chemtech and hextech = Renata and Zeri. This was intended to release all at once I think.
@@sunriseparrabellum5505 alot of hitboxes are dodgy even if they have a marker on the ground. its always great when you get hit by a yone r or sion q when you stand half a meter outside of the marker.
I like that even though her skills may look op , actually she is really balanced . And there isn't that many opportunities in one match where her ult is broken . And also happy she is a genuine anti-hypercarry champ.
I mean Winter Wyvern's Ult is Quick and easy since it's a point click Reneta's ult has a Delay then slow wave if you ult 1 adc it can make an enemy stronger because of it's ADC and it gives A LOT OF ATTACK SPEED but they can't use spell. Winter's Ult is just point click Stun if no enemy allies
The out of the box thinking is great though. I definitely loved Zeri's auto attack being a spammable ability that you can miss and this one is also interesting and nice. Now if only they fixed the dmg problem the game would be awesome and constantly getting better.
For the whole "friendly fire" game mode skooch suggested, I'm not really on par with it. Sure, if the troll has zero gold they can't really continue to kill. But, you don't break somebody's mental by killing them. You break it by constantly harassing them. Somebody locks in volibear, they can just continuously Q stun, E slow you. Somebody locks in LeBlanc, they can just E root you in place for their amusement. See where I'm going with this?
@@D1GItAL_CVTS pretty sure there would be restrictions on when and where you can friendly fire. Plus, you would be wasting time to deal with the troll and losing gold yourself
I really enjoy watching you since you are one of the rare people that supports and approves of changes, It is what has kept this game going for so long! props to them for coming up with this shit. I just wish more map skins and events would be added frequently. I wanna have some nida nida leee fun
My combo I'm imagining is Swain and Renata, Renata lands her hook, yanks the adc towards her, then the adc is stunned after the yank, then Swain clicks the adc and yanks them back further and throws his hook ahead of them so if they run, they run into it and get rooted again and yanked.
Nothing is more fun than the knee-jerk reactions of commentors with every new champ. Calm down, guys, you'll be equally useless with her as you are with any support.
I legit love the idea of them making a "Sextakill!" "Septakill!" "Octakill!" "FULL KILL!" set of special announcements possible for Glasc games and just have Renata Glasc do the announcement on those rare occasions instead of the regular announcer.
Remember that Tahmn Kench was nerfed TO THE GROUND, for just swallowing once in a while the opponent. The only way this shit survives is if it sells A METRIC FUCK TON of skins
@@muhammadidris2000 he was primarily reworked and nerfed the first couple of times because of his w in pro play. They never gave a shit about top kench until the rework completely removed him from the support role
by solving problems in the game players break their necks to find something new to the game. this what makes this game so fun. new champions, new rules, new gameplays and new rule breakers. i fucking love league
Meanwhile other people : im quiting this game cuz i cant stand the OP champ, and im gonna cry in corner The one who stay : nah, lose is just an everyday breakfast, and every champ even the op ones, have a weakness, no need to cry. As pantheon say : Keep Fighting !
Ngl a friendly fire mode would be fun. For kai’sa I would love to be able to ult to my own team lol. Like if malphite or yasuo ults my team and I’m away, I can ult to them because they would have plasma on them. Feel like that would be cool
As soon as I saw how short her passive is I was so fucking happy. I like her because she is dimple but is still very interactive. Riot created a someone who feels like a carry support but actually supports. Best champ design in a long time. Buying her on release.
I love vex, I love zeri, heck I even love yuumi, cuz Riot is really ramping up different champions who feel unique. Vex even went kinda back to the "simple" champion design. Andvrenata right now is such a blessing of a new kind of support like senna and pyke felt like.
@@vladislavzara4206 I get your point, but I think otherwise. Support players were always forced to be the bitch of the team. I think its great that they now have a different set of champs and playstyle. It makes the role more versatile and the picking phase more interesting. Supports like lux, pyke etc are really offensive but they can't protect like a thresh can. But while you help the adc scale, I think its wrong to just see a support as a pure adc bitch
@@vladislavzara4206 as a main support i dont care about being a carrie for the team but playing the older enchanters for me is boring yeah i enjoy playing with Lulú is one of my Mains but in the long term i get tired the same with Alistar and the only mage support i like is morgana, just because we are supports doesnt mean we cant have variety On the champs of our role, the other línes Can choose from a lot of different champs to do their job why cant we? specially with champs that are meant to be supports, senna is a support just because she is a marksman doesnt mean she isn’t a support her habilities are meant for that role and i love her she is my favourite supp and i’m Glad Renata is coming since she has an interesting and cool concept
To be real if my team go full ad i will go Rammus top and I will try to W just before she ult and my team will painfully understand why full AD comp is a shitty idea
I have one thing to say to people crying about Renata's ult. Killing people with their own teammates has been around since 2010, when Mordekaiser was released.
Champ looks sick, Im still looking for a champ with an abaility to reflect ptojectiles, make it a small window so you have to time it (like baseball) and man id be over the moon
Her and vayne work well together, she can pull people next to a wall, vayne smacks them into a wall, and in a fight since vayne wants to be up close, the w is amazing on vayne.
Her W is the equivalent of the Irelia Shield penetration nerf, it will be well deserved since her reviving an ally in team is basically Aatrox old revive except with a few more requirements.
Her W seems strong but it's for only one target and it isn't an absolute save. Where Chemdrake was the entire fucking team and had an oppressive 90% WR for the team that claimed the Soul plus an incredibly toxic (Pun intended) map transformation basically giving every Jungler/Roamer Evelynn levels of surprise factor.
BRO! The Whole Cogma Teaming if his team doesn't peel for him thing is just so perfect. I laughed- no I wheezed! for about 3 minutes because of that bit alone. Thank you for this.
in that yi situation he was talking about, with how slow that ult is, if a yi kills 4 enemy champs, and alpha strike kills her when she is low enough to just die, he could get hit by it and then kill his 4 allies and himself in the right situation.
Man I really like how league players get a new concept in the game and instantly go: "Hey that would work great with that champion because of all of these reasons, and these runes because they synergise great, with these items because of that ability, especially against all these champions because when they have bla bla bla bla..... " Like there are so many different and unique champions, abilities, items, runes and combos, in this game that all form different situations and here we are just casually connecting them all together. Say what you will about league players but this is something I love about us.
Competitive just got so much more exciting it's gonna be insane. Akshan revives, renata's R, sheesh it's going to be fun to watch Pro play this season.
I've been a tahm kench support main for years now and I loved him because he felt strong and menacing Once his rework hit he became even more menacing! (and a toplaner on accident but we don't talk about that fiasco) But never have I experienced the feeling of being a true "menace" as a support. This champion is gonna change that and god I can't wait to get my hands on her
0:40 Skooch makes a very good point. As much as I hate champs just going into any role they want (Ahem, pre-nerf Sett), I really don't want Renata to end up like Rell. Maybe make it so that her abilities can proc her passive? Hell, make it so that she can use and proc her passive on jungle camps, LoL could use more mage/junglers.
I really love the fact that Skooch's attitude towards her ult is "I need to build *MORE* attack speed so my allies will really feel the fuckups they make."
Supports influence the game even when their behind because its in their kits nature to have massive amounts of CC, buffs, healing, and general support abilities. Perfect examples are Blitz, Pyke, Vel-Koz, Leona, Lulu, Soraka, even when "behind", they still have massive impact. Thats why pro support players are also the least paid, and many pro players believe that the role is a joke. Hell even T1 reached Grandmaster two weeks into one-tricking the role compared to when he played Top, ADC, and Jg. What scares me about Renata is that they clearly havent learned their lesson adding life after death mechanics. It only works for Sion because its his entire passive. I sincerly hope its a 20 - 30+ second CD. Also, the only outplay from her ult is to dodge it but thats tough because of its massive width, and range. Cant wait to see her ban rate.
Support main, and we all needed this W. Every enchanter feels so unplayable in terms of influence in the game. This feels like a chance for supports to finally carry in solo queue
One of my favorite things about the ult being slow is that while yeah, you may get hit, that's not the important part. When people see that coming your team will SCATTER and in a teamfight? That can be DEADLY.
Her lore is fantastic as well. Basically becoming this entrepreneur in Zaun and earning a name for herself, helping her own people if they repay her in loyalty. Like she handed out purifier masks for free to the people of Zaun after a chemical fire. But the underlying thing is, all her products have the chemtech that makes them susceptible to her, and she could take over and release those chemicals when the time was right and take over. She's such a cool anti-hero.
my biggest issue with league has been champs doing nothing especially old ones too many just speed boost or line skill shot dmg Jhin, Jinx, Zeri and those are just carries Finally League gets Dota style champs (the ult, stun + forced movement and then a save)
Imagine this enemy team come to siege Nexus, you see a fed Master Yi coming in at the speed of sound, Renata Ults as a last ditch effort. It works you hear "Quadra Kill" but Yi turns around manages to ace everyone. Will we finally hear "Nona Kill"?
That friendly fire gamemode actually sounds like a really cool idea. Not really sure how fun it actually would be in practice, but there are probably quite a few champions that can kind of use it to their advantage (like a Senna who can gain stacks from allies, a Soraka that can Q allies to get the self heal, or a Neeko that can get an empowered root by shooting it through an ally). Aurelion Sol definitely sounds like a fun champion for that mode though, and I'm pretty sure my team would be delighted about me picking him there :D
I kinda like the duality on her W. It's a buff but also a revive. It means it encourages her to use it on Near-death champions, or trade the Revive. But the fact it resets is fucking disgusting. It's a "press one button to make a hypercarry"
I think something that's really good with Renata Glasc's W revive, is that it only needs a takedown, so if the assassin goes all in on the adc and gets popped by someone else on the team, the adc just comes back because they only need an assist
By the tests I've seen Vandril doing so far, probably not. It only causes the enemies to AA themselves. In theory, a buffed Nasus' Q, or Vayne's Passive, could proc on their on team, since its on their AA, but only when Renata goes live to be sure.
11:20 This is the reason a lot of people don't like the direction they are going. You shouldn't make the older characters in your game obsolete. This game changes so much that almost everyone gets their turn in the meta but the same set of characters are just always good. There will always be a meta and that's not a bad thing but giving up and accepting that power creep is not the way to make people enjoy your game. I shouldn't have to rely on learning the new champs every time they come out just so I can get the best winrate and the old champs shouldn't be neglected because they're old. instead of releasing new overtuned champs due to power creep how about go back and redesign champs that need it, making it so old concepts can be brought up to date and it doesn't make it so you have to play the same couple characters to get consistent winrates, even from a casual point of view you don't have fun in games you can't do anything about.
I play both league and dota, and I find dota does this so well. Winters curse from wyvern, black hole, reverse polarity and static storm are all support ultimates that can straight up win a game in Dota. ( Some of those characters can be played as a carry or support)
Senna is a "problem" in that she is a support who is basically an ADC with a heal and a root. Her ability scaling uses AD, the only exception being her Q but the heal is the same AP and AD ratio on top of getting extra for having LETHALITY. There is legitimated no reason to build her AP, so she is basically an ADC who masquerades as a Support.
The only AP item that works ok with her is nashor's tooth, and you only take that if you want your ult to tickle the enemy a bit harder and reassure your allies a bit more
6:25 a GA animation would only make it stronger, the champion would be invulnerable for a period while now people wont stop focusing the champion which makes it harder to get a reset
Bronze theory: Didn't I kill him already? Sion builds GA TOP Zilean MID Renata SUPP Azshan JNGL ADC builds GA In a fight use the Zilian and Renata revives in ADC or Sion (mostly in the ADC) and now they have to kill the ADC 3 or the Sion 4 before Azshan gets a revive and you have them coming back into the fight
Wait what ? Brand troll sp ? Cuz he steals kills ? What kind of logic is that ? Brand sp is good when he can synergies with adc, although yeah he might steal kill, but... If the sp can carry better than the adc itself then why not ?, I mean as long as u win the game, it doesnt matter who carry
@@daystormzx2733 flaws with your argument: 1. Not all adc's have good synergy with him. They still pick it. 2. If the team has no tanks and the team needs tanks. They still pick it. 3. If the team could win the game easier with a better conditional pick. They still pick it. Brand sups have protagonist syndrome. They want to do the damage and they want the team to peel for them so they can ult on near dead targets. So no
@@rololopez1505 well.. ofc, u are right, but... u know anything can happen in league right ?, even a team with out tank, an adc that has no synergy with brand and, a team with no "conditional pick", still can win the game, the only matters is the pilot who control the character
It's definitely not nearly as good as Zil ult. Zil ult at max rank can get you back to almost if not full hp, while this thing only gives you 35% as Ryan said it, and even if you manage to get a kill during that 3 second window - which let's be honest, you won't always - you will only stop the burn, meaning you're still gonna stay at 35% hp or below, while more enemies might be near unless ofc there was only one, but if it was a teamfight, there will be more. And it being instant might have its drawbacks too. If we take a ga for instance, that during a teamfight can buy time for your teammates to react and slap the enemy while you're coming back, but with this, the enemy can just carry on attacking you and if THEY can survive for another 3 or less seconds, you're gonna die either way. I'm not saying it doesn't have the potential to be a strong ability, but I don't think it's as broken as most say it is.
Statistically it's worse. The revive is instant, yeah, but CC carries over the revive and with it being instant, that means that logically, the people who killed said person, would keep targetting it until it dies fully. Not to mention its a measly 3 seconds of burnout, and add damage over that, it might aswell be 1 second or less of burnout. Oh yeah and it's also her buff ability which means she *shouldn't* buff her allies willy nilly and has to save it for a good moment in which it's result in a takedown at least to refresh the duration of the buff and revive if the target died before they could get the takedown on the enemy.
@@alruneblake you're completely missing the point and trying to get caught up in semantics. The real deep seated issue is riots illogical decisions and double standards, not "technically the stats are blah blah blah". They literally just talked about how this exact same concept is game breaking but then add it as a BASIC ABILITY to their very next champ. That, is where the real problem herein lies, the CONCEPT itself and where it's placed and how riot handled it
her r and w are fine, both have super long cooldowns, r is slow moving and does no dmg, and isnt really useful until late game, before then its just hard cc, w is fine becuase oflong cool down the fact you are revived while burning an only have 3 seconds to get an assist or kill, her w is much more balanced than akshans revive is
The R is cool as fuck, plus it looks slow so she'd have to be decently close to use it. The W is probably gonna get hit unless the damage can go over the full heal (have 500 health, take 600, get a full heal -100 health from the remaining damage) because the zero latency rez by all accounts sounds nuts.
I love watching this now, remembering all the times I’ve gotten to play glasc, and having that exact moment of thinking “oh, the auto attack carry is fed? Perfect.” This is some plans within plans shit.
The funny thing is, she might be a support, but she'd be a good mid-laner when you have an AA-based jungler. So if you duo with someone who's playing Yi, or Tryndamere, they camp mid for you, you build an Everfrost? You can really mess up someone's day in midlane, and as an added bonus, you have some good teamfight potential too. (Although part of me wonders if Renata's passive can be applied by Runaan's Hurricane in teamfights.)
the burn actually goes down super fast. like the 3 seconds sounds like a long time but that 3 sec burn on top of the more oncoming damage from the fight makes u literally only have time for an extra ability and an auto
