Rener Gracie Spars with 275 lb NFL Athlete (Gracie University Narrated Sparring) 

***** Exactly. That's the only reason someone could criticize someone trying to better themselves.

timekeeper20ARC It's also pretty hard to advance through belts at good schools.

And let's be honest that's probably one of the strongest blue belts most people have ever seen dudes a nfl player not some slouch

dylan dove Well Rener even said in the video when he had him a few times that his strength is the only reason he was able to escape or reverse.

dylan dove And he's a blue belt with an 80lb size advantage making them both pretty much black belts

"Circular motion counter clockwise" I fuckin diiieeeeeedd🤣🤣🤣🤣

watch the delivery hahaahahha

Hahaha

Booooom hahahah

This made me LOL when he did that.

Trust me, it is

Adie Herbert the fuck do you find so abrasive about him

@@TheRedRuin well why dont you show up at his school and try it keyboard warrior

@@1kenpofreddy It's been a long while but and as i recall he's a prick like you are responding to a post from a year ago, if he was nearer and our paths crossed and he was a prick towards me he wouldn't fight me, that I can guarantee.

@@666legnadibrom Well fuckwit as notifications don't come I remember seeing him in other videos he has a bighead it's there when he surprise attacks the big guy in this vid but it's way worse in other videos I'd be fucked off big time if I was that dude. So go fuck yourself.

From my limited experience, strength is not too much of a factor. Sure, you can hold on to a grip longer if you're more enduring, my coach has escaped from grips with his advantage in strength, weight and size are handy if you're stacking up, but much is about leverage and correctly applying your weight. I've survived a guy twice my size putting his weight on my abdomen, where more strength on my part would obviously have helped, but I've also gotten that same guy in trouble with my much lesser weight and strength. I didn't beat him, but that was because he knew the escapes to everything I tried, and he knew tricks and techniques I didn't yet, but as you progress in skill, a difference in strength and size becomes less critical. You learn to work with leverage, points of balance and generally use the laws of physics in your favor. A longer arm is in the end a longer lever, which means you have to apply less force, balancing out your opponents force. I recently sparred with a guy that has years of strength training ahead of me, but little more experience in BJJ. I submitted him twice, within five minutes, once by guillotine where all his strength didn't help, and once with an armbar where all his stacking up and putting his weight on me didn't save him. I wouldn't stand a chance in a proper MMA fight against him, he'd likely knock me out before I could submit him, but just BJJ wrestling, experience is worth much more than brute strength.

Josh Moody hey, I am also a small guy, around 120pounds and I know exactly how you feel. but you should never compare yourself with others, because some people just have natural talent and maybe they just learn faster than you. I have been training for 8 months and I regularly get submitted by people who trained only 1-2 weeks because they are just much more athletic, stronger, faster, learn quicker, etc. It's no use trying to compare with those people, I would say if you are a purple belt you can win almost every white belt regardless of weight. so basically 4-5 years of experience difference is needed? That's just my two cents. You could also try doing weights to become slightly stronger? oh and I once heard someone say that every 50pounds weight difference is as if that guy is 1 belt above you. I use this as a general guideline nowadays.

Yep man hey man smaller dude here about 5’6 but im bulky at about 175-180 lbs and let me tell you it’s all leverage I’ve rolled with kids who are shorter and lighter as with the proper leverage they can win yes strength can play a part but it also depends on how well you know how the physics of the body work regarding balance once you understand that you can use it to your advantage against your opponents because if you know what you need to do to make them do what you want them to do it’s all down hill especially if they rely more on size and strength.

Well a lot of football players can also be cocky bas rutten almost got into a fight with Brian urlacher one time bas tells a story about it, it's on RU-vid, bas accidentally steps on his foot and tries to apologize and offers him a beer but urlacher still wants to fight until someone he's with tells him rutten is a former heavyweight champion

@@nimulosmaltibos9662 100%. Even watching purple/black belts train for competition, I notice that the most successful competitors always keep it playful. When they sweep or reverse position, they'll often go back to the disadvantaged position multiple times. In competition you see the super strong guys occasionally bulldoze a choke, but more often than not they gas out frustrated and the smaller guy survives and finds the submission.

🙏🏾🙏🏾💚

Tamba is a chameleon dont you know

My teacher had to sit me down once I went 8 minutes and he though I was going to pass out.

C Lopez Our sparring sessions in tkd are 2 hours long with 2 minute breaks between 3 minute rounds it's just something about grappling that drains me.

I break a fever if i go to long.

they are flowing mostly? seriously guys?

I started BJJ about 3 months ago. We do 15 minutes of rolling at the end of each class. And yes, it is very tiring!!!

BJJ is not hated most people love it and respect it. Some of the Gracies are hated but not Rener.

richcapo because it's a shitty martiale arts that doesnt make sense

richcapo I think you’re speaking to someone from the uk as he used the word “bruv”, and why would anyone go out of their way just to fight some stranger on the internet..

Rich capo: I can't believe what i just read. You are pathetic. I'll make sure to stay away from krav (Not because I don't think it's a legit martial art) but if it produces people with a mindset like you.... i don't want anything to do with it. You're an awful ambassador for your discipline.

@@Adamulduren lmao try to land a blow on a pro bjj fighter then come back. Probably wont see u soon😂

good on you, little bro!

+SuperFreckle ha that's awesome

+SuperFreckle You're lucky the others didn't kick your head in; bullies are cowards who operate in groups because they fear one-on-one.

+SuperFreckle awesome bro

sure nerd

ChessNetwork Hi Jerry

+ChessNetwork Jerry what are you doing here? More blitz madness please:)

+ChessNetwork YAY Jerry watches BJJ!!!

What the fuck are you doing here?

+ChessNetwork didn't expect 2 see u here

+Joby Y, Time stamp please

+Richard Fry @7:35

+Joby Y HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

+Joby Y That was his hand bro check again...

+Joby Y racist!!!

sechsunddreißig FREAKIN LUCKY AF

it's been 3 years, have you kept going? :)

Hope you still do it

5 years. Are you still training?

hey bro 5 years in, are you still with us? report back, hope you are still on ossss.

Right!? I can't wait to see a pro bowler like him go into MMA at some point.

Bearded Patriot I’m a pro bowler don’t want to brag but I’ve had a 248 average 18 300 games. I don’t think I’m gonna go on to MMA though I don’t see how bowling will transfer over too cage fighting.

It means body chess in Brazilian

It's "soft/gentle art" in Japanese.

BennyOcean bennyocean mean "funny genious" in youtube...

HydraWolf1 Lol, japanese word for a japanese art

***** I prefer Benny Lava.

Tamba the tiger

well said

+MILIFANGR Rener makes it easy to understand along with his enthusiasm

MILIFANGR, he's cocky but he has no mma fights so he's a joke.

Paradise wave Thats probably because he’s not a mixed martial artists.. idiot lol

Paradise wave Dude I don’t even know what you’re trying to say? Your grammar is pathetic. Hahaha But yeah of course in the first few UFC tournaments BJJ dominated. Now every ufc fighter is knowledgeable in the stand up, clinch and ground game. What I’m saying is RENER isn’t a ufc fighter. So why even mention that he doesn’t have any MMA fights.

Too bad in a real fight(striking involved), BJJ starts to lose it's effectiveness

***** Yeah, it's still effective jut become a lot harder to use when you have to worry about punches/elbow strikes/etc. in an MMA fight. I like how BJJ is about using the least amount of energy to get the most efficient result

The point is you ALSO should be using striking in a real street fight. Jujitsu is one tool you have.

It's so much easier when strikes are involved. They're giving up limbs like crazy when they do that.

***** As a 4 stripe and only 30lb weight advantage that should have been relatively easy for you unless he's an elite physical guy. How did he land all those shots? You weren't fighting the hands? I train bjj too and I'm HUGE on hand control. That's a bjj essential in my opinion. How did you let him take you down like that? If he was landing punches why didn't you up and over? No way an untrained guy can defend that.

watch it everyday, so in fact.... it will be something you see every day

turmat01 Every time you get tapped you get better... unless you quit.

I don't care about being tapped out at all bro. I am probably the one guy with the least ego in the world when it comes to BJJ. But its about respect and fun. Its no use for a dude thats 10x better than you to go all out at you. serves him no good, and it makes it less fun for me. I prefer flow rolling, with the occasionnal hard roll, but you know, I'll compare it to an extreme. Imagine Rener going all out at a dude that has 2-3 class under his white belt. Of ourse Rener will win. But it would just make him look like a douchebag. The white belt will learn a bit, yes, but he will learn even more if Rener would go slow, let him some time to think about what he should do and stuff. You need to roll hard sometimes to really try out what you learned, but imo, flow rolling will make you learn waaay more, will be way more fun, and reduce the risks of injuries. That blue belt I hate so much almost broke my arm twice in the same class because he was going so hard, he actually lost control over himself, and was unable to let go when I tapped. Like I said. I don't care about tapping out. I enjoy my losses just as much as I enjoy my (rare) victories. I just hate douchebags.

I completely agree with you. It's better to train people to their own level, just like with music lessons or any other skill.

BennyOcean I would not say it´s better to train with people that at your own leve, I do like roll with blue, purple brown and black belts. I am a white belt myself and most guys are much better then me, but if the blue and the purple gives you some spots and you can take advantage from it and maybe come close to a submission, you useally finish to guys on your level, you will see were you have do develop, what you have to better, because most of them will know a way to slipt out, you didn´t know yet. It is the same thing with positions, I really like to play with the gi and the lapel and with other white belts and they have there problems, I can catch my breath and attack all kind of stuff. I tried this on a blue belt in my gym and just knew how to move and I lost my gribs, because I was not used this mutch to hold my lapel grip. So if you want to see where you stand in your "class" sure it´s cool to roll with people that are as good as you, but I like to roll with nice higher belts much more, which give me a chance and teach me some stuff just while rolling about my game. And I think this is also what +turmat01 misses, when he says it´s not fun if a higher belt just pushes his ego by tapping someone which has lower belt and stuff. In our gym we do as Rener always says: We keep it playful

I think it's good if teachers or people teaching you do this, but you should be constantly tapping against higher belts. if you're taking privates, sure you'll get spoon fed. If you're on the mats, expect people coming to get you. Why you think bjj is so strong?

+Semir Duric a 275lb only muscle, black man, is a scary man.

275lb man that knows bjj and is a mf professional football player.. run

@@zacherywesterberg4137 that's the scary part you cant run hel catch you the slowest NFL players still run like 5 flat 40s lol

Yes Gracie Renzo Gracie Jiu jitsu self defense n fighting saved my life n family but I enjoy NAGA for bjj Team JBA we won 3 years in a row

Nate_gone_hiking amen

I've heard it said that you should always train JUST above where your opponent's skill is at. This is also true for child development. The easiest way to get someone to stop doing something they are learning is to throw them a problem day after day that makes them feel as though they are drowning with no escape and zero improvement. And the inverse is just as bad.

Graham Van Dyke

Sultan King I think you've missed the point! +Graham Van Dyke was saying Rener is tall, but the 17yr old towers over him. Get it ?

Sultan King What are you even talking about... that's not his kid.

He's Conor Murphy & this says his 6'7" www.azcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/recruiting/2015/06/18/brophy-prep-connor-murphy-the-opening-finals-ticket/28941543/

Joey Dunlop He's not in the NFL(yet)

+Tom Park yes....incredible patience and keeping the heart-rate/cardio under control. These guys are great at recovery, but mainly at staying within optimal range.

+FreeMTrider When I trained in boxing we did two 2 minute rounds and by the end I was spewing snot and blood and trying not to pass out. When I started training in Jiu-jitsu and they said we did 6 minute rounds I thought I would die for sure but the rhythm is much different. You can "feel" your opponent and know when to rest and when to attack... Unless you can't.

T FP really I roll in my room with my roommate for about 10 min all out without any padding

Agreed...you know you want to -- now just walk thru that door.

And ur life will change forever 😊🤙🏿

Problem is there are a lot of fake teachers. Besides, not every city has a bjj school.

so did you go?

Fuiste?

doggotbitm He would be an idiot to get into MMA. Hali is paid about 17 times Cain Velasquez's net worth in a single year as an NFL linebacker.

+Wesley Williams True, but both MMA and Football are sports where you'll be putting your body through a grinder on a regular basis. You'd be an idiot to pick MMA over playing for the NFL as a career because the compensation is just not there, unless you're Rousey or Mcgregor. If you want to train MMA as a hobby during the off season, that's one thing, but to quit a job that pays a minimum rookie salary of $400K per year to do that full time is nonsensical.

+doggotbitm after his NFL career is done, he might.

if he rather get punched in the face and get paid 10x less than ya.

Just googled his name, Connor Murphy is an outside linebacker for USC now. 247sports.com/player/connor-murphy-69285

thatruth i feel ya. Today when the new guys were rolling and i wanted to help one of them with guard passes the dude accidentally kneed me in the head and almost knocked me out. My coach (who is an awsome human being) chocked me with a triangle that fucked up my neck and everywere hurts but i love the sport. Love the pain, love the community and love to improve in the art. I do 10th planet how bout you?

good stuff man..i got to choke out a guy yesterday just doing their free trial haha..ive only been doing it 2 months man but have improved dramatically..i feel comfortable on the mat and am starting to get submisssions..10th planet is good im just at a place called peninsula extreme MMA in Melbourne.the classes ate good though,plenty of rolling time..

first week in guys, getting smashed by everyone but it's fun and Iam starting to see the patterns, hope to pass guard next week!

Ese Clavo good stuff man..yeah thats the way..completely forget about doing submissions and just focus on retaining your guard and being able to pass them..and download stephen kestings roadmap to bjj its free..he is awesome

LOL! I remember when I joined... I started off with gi and pretty much got dominated from the sleeves and collars. So I switched to no gi. Everyone was at least blue belt. I was weak compared to them and weighed 20kg less. I was tapped out some 12 times before I pulled off my first submission... I was about to get armbarred so I pulled my leg over the guy's face (i'm quite flexible and tall) and choked him out by squashing my legs... By this point I had also frantically learnt a bunch of escapes to all the submissions that people had pulled off on me so I wasn't going to get submitted by any blue belts. Problem was I was ALWAYS getting mounted (never secured top position long enough nor managed to secure guard) and then would avoid a bunch of submissions, crawl out and take the back or do some other stuff. That's when I decided to get stronger, so I did the reddit recommended bodyweight fitness routine. You should check it out. Now it's become much easier for me to sweep opponents and mount them... Good luck... As for injuries, my shoulder once popped out and back in three times in the same lesson XD

yeah he's also one of the best defenses player, he's very good!

myPAINisSELFchosen85 dude, Miller is one of the best at the moment lmao

black guy(×) African American(o)

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@@user-ou4ri6hf1s African American's can be not black tho.

Keep going bro, it would of been ok to roll or randori in the beginning just gotta find a guy way better who will take it easy or make sure u n the other only go at 60% no need to go 100% that early

One reason why I'm not so interested in training any more. Gracie is in the best condition he can be in yet would still struggle with this huge black guy. Fancy spaghetti technique (as in I'm a toothpick) doesn't work so much in the street.

@Full Moon They are far too comfortable on their backs! So it's less effective in the street. A sharp kitchen knife in your glovebox could probably provide more protection in the street, I think. The jiu-jitsu guys will even open up their legs and literally jump into the effeminate missionary position (pulling guard) against a stronger, tougher opponent in the street. A really BAD idea! A friggin terrible idea! So it seems that only in jiu-jitsu would a man ever contemplate, for example, an omoplata in a street fight. It's not realistic. At all. Real fights are won through strikes (and sometimes through dominant wrestling)! They aren't won throughout fancy toeholds or heel hooks, or through upside down spaghetti technique, etc. And I'll be honest .... If Gracie stopped exercising for just 3 months and dropped down to an average fitness level for his size... I would bet my money that he would lose in sad, devastating fashion to this blue belt NFL player in a street fight! Two of them at once would destroy him for sure. Gracie wouldn't stand a chance using jiu-jitsu! This is unfortunate because his level of jiu-jitsu technique is about as high as it can get! Yet he would still lose! 😩 A high level kickboxer or muy thai fighter, on the other hand, would write a much different story. Fights are won through strikes.

BJ Penn KO'ed in bar streetfight video online (victor/winner of the scrap was fat and out of shape but still won the fight by knockout). So much for BJJ in the street. Penn reportedly later returned and stole his assailant with a cheap shot then got a little bit of revenge by taking his opponents' back then landing minor blows.

El Juanote every single thing you just said is completely wrong. You have no idea about BJJ and it’s effectiveness You sir are a complete ignoramus, and your statements are so stupid, that we are all now the dumber for having to have seen them

El Juanote well don’t stop cuz a 275lb nfl athlete could probably take Rener in a real fight, he’s a giant dude, they don’t come around that often. In the street rener would get tackled so hard he’d break his ribs on the pavement. Size and strength matters but martial arts are meant to balance the scales

Jose Daniel Herrera I claim that most of those people that associate wrestling/bjj with homosexuality, with the sole purpose to undermine those activites, either never grew up with a father figure, or are feminist ideologues. Boys need to play fight, it develops them socially and psychologically. Psychology professor Jordan Peterson posted a few videos about the necessity for physical play in growing children, especially boys, and even girls benefit from it. One of Peterson's videos mentions that children need to learn to socialize by the age of 4, children that don't, never learn it, regardless of treatment, they become ostracized and cynical. A child that does not know how to play with adults and other children, does not know how to interact at all. Children of age 5 will not play with a 5 year old that behaves like a 2 year old. Adults, upon seeing the 5 year old behave like a 2 year old, will give disapproving words and behaviors to that 5 year old. That child will suffer for the rest of their life, seeing false smiles-at best, and bullying-at worst. Middle school aged children are horrible to socially awkward children. When children play fight, they are learning boundaries, what can they get away with while keeping things fun. The rules are too difficult to verbalize, it is too complex, it can be best acted out. A small child will playfully punch their father figure and run off, looking back to see if the adult is mad or laughing. If the adult laughs, the child runs back to strike harder, learning what is playful excitement -and what isn't. "Just don't hit too hard"...well what is too hard? Children have very limited verbal abilities, they perceive through their strongest sense-touch. Infants learn through touch, more precisely their mouth. Social learning in children has a huge physical component, it is arguably necessarily physical. Adult men, having grown up psychologically well, and socially well, continue this practice because it is a form of establishing a connection, even in smaller contact forms. Patting a guy on the back saying "hey, how are you!", shows that the two adult men are good friends, much more than just the verbal "hey, how are you!". There is a distinct difference between a greeting with and without the pat, or other physical contact. Girls are biologically different in this regard, although they also benefit from increased physical contact. Girls biologically prefer to sit down and listen to someone talk, and with enough of this, they feel a close connection. This is one argument as to why girls outperform boys in school, that the school environment is at a disadvantage to boys, schools require to be still, no contact, and no play, no fun, only in recess and only in recess, which is roughly 30-40 minutes in the 8hour school day. Even in lunchtime children are forced to eat silently. Girls, not having much of a biological need for physical, high energy, fun, fit well into the school system. Boys are often reprimanded and/or diagnosed as having ADHD in school, sometimes without parental consent. The consequence for these reprimanded boys is very damaging, they drop-out. Most careers prefer to hire graduates. The effects of society belittling boys' physical contact, even in adult men is damaging. Sweden attempted to force boys to behave like girls, and vise versa, with disastrous results. The boys grew up infuriated at having to behave like girls, and violence and aggression crime rates in Sweden increased at greater rates. Rape rates increased dramatically. The old saying, let boys be boys, has the scientific literature to support it. A good father figure is there to teach companionship while simultaneously teaching how to properly interact with others, a beginning of good manners. A 2-in-1. Reading the comments in this video aren't surprising, "It Would Be Fun to learn from him!" It would be fun to learn from him. Children are drawn to fun physical activities. Even adults. It is a good thing. People that try to undermine it, don't really know what they are undermining. Neither do they know what they are missing out on.

@@Fulano.de.Tal. Wait, you're blaming feminism on toxic men believing that anything that could possibly resemble a homosexual act is indeed homoeroticism? Look, I know your lord and savior, Jordan Peterson, has a problem with feminism, but even he probably doesn't attribute them with homophobia.

Bilal Jones i know i posted a long message, so you probably didn't remember the part where i mentioned that those that consider BJJ as a gay activity, were people unfamiliar with physical play in their lives. Male to male social interactions differ by nation and culture; men from close-knit communities were often considered gay by american men. America has a very unique perspective on individuality, which many other nations and cultures disapprove. This focus on individuality, idea of self, rather than community (especially in urban and surrounding areas), will certainly clash with people of distinctly polar opposite views. Feminism, a feeling based ideology of the hatred of men, (rather than the claim of the desire of equality of the sexes) criticizes male behavior, often with satire, including the sexualization of male-to-male interactions. Jordan Peterson was merely mentioned so the OP may have a reference point where my claims may be further elaborated. The scientific literature is well established on childhood development, including the benefits of physical interaction among boys. I could have mentioned another professor of Psychology, but Peterson's lectures are arguably the most readily available, given his dedication to uploading his work for many years. The University of Berkley in California had posted lectures online, but were forced to take them down, due to the enactment of a federal legislation.

@@Fulano.de.Tal. I'm not disagreeing with you about "play fighting" when it comes to young boys. I'm not a child behavioral psychologist (fun fact: neither is Peterson). My issue is that you threw in a dig against feminism when you clearly stated the issue at hand: America's warped, toxic obsession with rugged "individualism". That's the issue: too many men (and, people, generally) find anything that intimately connects them with another person physically, emotionally, financially, etc. inherently makes them weaker and/or subservient. And, if they are a man connected another man, then it's also somehow homosexual as only women should "attach" themselves onto men for (emotional, physical, otherwise). Don't know how feminists are the problem here.

3rd wave feminism doesn't promote women, but tears down the concept of gender while promoting fear between groups of people for advancing the leftist agenda. Most of those who manufacture such dialogue are quite clever at manipulating language, and though I respect their right to exist, I have no commonality of world view and thus encourage them to form their own collectivist hives so they can reap the fruits of their convoluted pandering narcissism. 'Have a nice day, 'tho!

+Stephen Valentine He means the art of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu as a whole

T. Thomas no way he’s way to old

Michael Kohaut heavyweights fight longer than smaller guys

Alexander Rose Uriah Fabre disagrees

@@michaelmjk1 what age is considered too old

+ben d I thought the same thing lol

They're not the same color, but I was actually confused whose hand that was at first