Replacing PS3 capacitors (NEC/TOKINs) nicely 

I ordered them from Aliexpress, but as shown between 4:27 - 4:50, some of them are faulty. (In case you don't know, you can turn on subtitle for this video. There are useful information in the subtitle) So I don't quite recommend you to buy it from Aliexpress, unless you have the ESR meter like me to check each of them. Anyhow, the part number for the capacitors is Panasonic 2R5TPE470M9, if you check if your local stores sell them too.

@@hardwarerepair200 thank you very much, i agree i order many time in AliExpress but all the time i check

For the original capacitors it needs to show ESR < 0.005 and Capacitance around 1280 uF to be working. As I have shown in 3:15 and 4:29, a bad capacitor can have a correct capacitance value but wrong ESR value. So you need to measure both.

It actually depends on the syscon error log. If you see 1001, it's CPU. If you see 1002, it's GPU. I have a new video on how to get the syscon error log ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EMfJr122Pos.html

It sounds like you got some faulty tantalums. Have you checked the capacitance and ESR before putting them on the PS3? If not, I would suggest you removing all of them and double check. You also need to make sure your final ESR is less than 0.005 ohm. If you have 4 tantalums, and each of them has 0.020 ohm, then your final ESR is 0.020/4 = 0.005. If you put 6 tantalums and each of them has 0.020 ohm, then your final ESR is 0.020/6=0.003. Basically the more you put, the better it is. 2:40 of my video shows how to check the capacitance. 3:30 of my video shows how to check the ESR. I faced the same problem before and it was hell lot of work of soldering and de-soldering. Since then, I make sure all my tantalums are working before putting them on my PS3.

@@hardwarerepair200 I didn't check them before installing, I will remove them and check capacitance before using new ones. Thank you very much

@@mouskakyo7571 You also need to check ESR. Because most of the time, a faulty capacitor has a normal capacitance but a bad ESR. ESR meters are usually cheap to get, but a ESR meter that can measure up to 0.001 precision is a bit tricky to get. If you don't have a ESR meter right now, a quick workaround is to replace each NEC/TOKIN with 6 tantalums, and hope that there are enough tantalums to compensate for the faulty one.

@@hardwarerepair200 I have a normal multimeter I can check for capacitance and if the capacitors changes properly, will try to find the faulty one, if not I will put 6 like you did.

I changed the tantalums, tested them and put 6 this time and it worked perfectly. Thank you for your help

I set the heat gun to 200C and soldering iron to 250C.

Thank you for watching! Wish you all the best fixing PS3s!

The original NEC TOKIN has a capacitance of 1280uF.

I don't have experience doing the PS3 logo mod. But it sounds like a nice idea! Let me know if you figured it out. For headphone jack, you can use the composite cable came with PS3 and buy a composite to 3.5mm converter like this www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00O1GK8MO

@@hardwarerepair200 the PS3 was given to me by a neighbor. No cable, no controllers!!I got a suitable replacement hand controller and the system does work. Not sure about an included composite cable for the sound. Thank and I will check out your link! 🤓

No. Please check my other video about YLOD ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bXu-IhiYPHE.html

If you can buy brand new NEC/TOKIN, then sure, it is the best one to put back. But I can't find it, so I need to look for alternatives.

Blowing them away seems to be faster than sweeping them away.

I have exactly the same problem, when i ask in the Facebook forum they say it's nec tokin problem

Only syscon can tell you the exact problem. I recommend you to search for "PS3 syscon tutorial".

You need to check if you have enough space to put non-SMD cap under the shield. If your cap is too huge, you can't even assemble the PS3 back.

@@hardwarerepair200 yeah i think that these ones non smd , are small i Will check thanks Man , you should me to put approximately 5,600 UF? 12 caps 470 UF, well , i need to be present with the ESR ,i said it because i was thinking tu put one with the capacity, well i Will check , then I'll Let you know, you are the Best thanks

drive.google.com/file/d/1jTAEPQms15l2Bc8p4o1EvSw2hIhuMnFX/view?usp=drive_link An image of the capacitor i am talking about pulled from a PS3 Slim board

I can't see your image because you have set it to private

@@hardwarerepair200 sorry about that. drive.google.com/file/d/1jTAEPQms15l2Bc8p4o1EvSw2hIhuMnFX/view?usp=sharing I set it to public now.

Yes. The cap you showed is 470uF (marked as S8 on it). The marking e means 2.5V. For more detail, please refer to the datasheet www.scribd.com/document/674540277/Nec-Tokin-Tepsgv0e477m9-12r

@@hardwarerepair200 thank you! Much appreciated

I didn't intend to make it heat-relief, it was more for easier soldering later. But I guess there is also heat-relief by doing so.

Yeah nice way to ruin a mobo. Just solder on an angle if you don't have 3 terminals

​@@daneayers7483 Thanks for watching! If you don't have a electric grinder, you can also do it manually with a screw driver. Here's the video on how to do it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pABdXU_RDFA.html I hope you find it useful :)

@@hardwarerepair200 I don't grind any of the motherboard. If I'm using Panasonic capacitors with only 2 terminals I solder them at an angle. If I use Capacitors with 3 terminals they can be attached directly and straight. I never grind anything.

To check if your NEC Tokin has gone bad, you can use a TTL to extract the syscon error log. If the error log showed 8001001 then you should change the NEC/TOKINs for the CELL. If you got 8001002, then you should change the NEC/TOKINs for RSX.

@@hardwarerepair200 don't know what u mean TTL and more... Just want to change all the tokin to new tokin/tantalum😅 If i change all of that but still ylod, is that rsx/cellbe can be bad sector maybe?

Good catch! I used the wrong capacitors on the right. They were too tall, and can't fit into CECHA, so I was in the middle of removing them, and replace them all with the black one. Didn't show it in this video, but I soldered 6 black capacitors on both sides in the end.

Yes, as long as the the capacitance is 470uf and the ESR is low, then you are fine. Be careful some cheap capacitors have a high ESR which won’t work well

Idk

Sorry for the late reply. If brand new NEC TOKINs are available, replacing it with another NEC TOKIN actually gives you the best result. The reason that we replace it with tantalum ones is that it is the second best replacement. If you are seeking the original performance, Felix actually designed this board to emulate the original NEC TOKINs by placing the tantalum caps in a specific order. oshpark.com/profiles/RIP-Felix If you don't know Felix, please also check out his RU-vid channel. He has some really nice videos about what YLOD actually is. www.youtube.com/@ripfelix3020

@@hardwarerepair200 i bought some "new" nec/tokins do you know how to check their capacity?

@@ukemix8848 To check if the NEC/Tokins are actually new, you need to measure both capacitance and ESR. Measuring only the capacitance is not enough since old NEC/Tokins can still have a good capacitance but bad ESR. You can check here on how to measure both capacitance and ESR www.ietlabs.com/pdf/Manuals/DE_5000_im.pdf New and fresh NEC/Tokins have 0.002 or lower ESR. Any values higher than this means that the NEC/Tokin has already gone bad.

Puede usar de v2.5 330uf

​@@zeromant80pero cuántos necesitas para eso

Sorry, I don't speak Italian. But I use Google translate to figure out your question roughly means "How did you figure out which nec tokin needed to be replaced? How did you remove them?" Here's the reply I made using Google Translate: La risposta breve è non lo so. Di solito inizio a rimuovere quello che ho rimosso nel video e lo sostituisco con 6 tantalio, quindi provo se funziona. Il 90% delle volte, la sostituzione di quella già risolve il problema. In caso contrario, continuare a rimuovere il NEC accanto ad esso e sostituirlo con 6 tantalio. Secondo la mia esperienza, non ho bisogno di sostituire più di due NEC per ogni RSX o CELL.

@@hardwarerepair200 grazie!!!

They all seem to be connected in parallel so there is no restriction like "you must use 2". And it is just my lazy way to remove as few NEC/TOKINs as possible by putting back as much tantalum as possible. According to my own experience, 90% of the time, you just need to replace one NEC/TOKIN if you put 6 470uF tantalums back. For the remaining 10%, you need to replace two NEC/TOKINs with 12 tantalums. By doing so, I won't need to remove more than 2 NEC/TOKINs even if they all went bad. So it is simply a personal preference on whether you want to remove more NEC/TOKINs and put fewer tantalums back, or you want to remove fewer NEC/TOKINs and put more tantalums back. To me NEC/TOKINs removal is painful, so I prefer the latter one.

@@hardwarerepair200 if I remove one nec tokin I would need to put 6 and if I remove 2 I would need to put 12

@@warmaster336 Yes. 12 tantalum should be enough to compensate for the remaining two NEC/TOKINs at the back side even if they went bad.

@@hardwarerepair200 I’ll give it a try thanks for the help

Hola de casualidad quitastes todos los nec tokin ? Yo se los quite y hay que hacer un puente 😊

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If you removed all the original NEC, you need to bridge the two positive terminals (the top terminal in the 1st row and the bottom terminal of the 2nd row in the thumbnail of this video) using a high gauge wire. Otherwise it won't work and your PS3 will stay as YLOD/RLOD. If you don't want to do this extra step, it is better to leave at least one NEC behind as the bridge. (The original NEC/TOKIN has built-in bridging between the two positive terminals)

@@hardwarerepair200 will i removed them all but i'm going to put the bridge

@@hardwarerepair200 it's been 4 months when you made this video tell me how the ps3 doing now is it now run so good?

@@joemusashi2701 Yes, it is running good.

@@hardwarerepair200 that sound good

It is a fix for 1001 or 1002 syscon errors.

here's the person who watched the rip felix video without getting the point at all

The video description mentioned a syscon error log indicating capacitor errors, so I'm pretty sure in his case the issue really was the capacitors. I'm guessing you watched RIP Felix's video, so you're aware that sometimes capacitors are the problem, sometimes they're not. The point is that we should check the syscon to pinpoint what exactly is the problem of a particular PS3.

Thank you both for clarifying. Yes, always check syscon before attempting any fix.

@@De_kaid There's way more than just one person doing it.. Seems like a lot of people walked away from that video without actually getting it.

@@draconic5129 yea, I keep seeing it, it isn't even rip felix's fault, the whole video was all about not taking a simple answer and yet so many people took a simple answer from it lmao

I can't say it is a permanent fix for all YLOD. But at least it fixes syscon error related to CELL and RSX power.

@@hardwarerepair200 thanks

I don't remember the exact value. But between positive and negative terminal, it should be a few ohms. And positive and positive (the outer two lines) should be 0 ohm.