Response Curves: Everything You Need To Know 

*This comment explains how the hitbox changes at each Curve position. It's easier to explain through text. Half of it is copy/pasted from my "Best 5&6 Curve" video* ____________ I double checked 6 and this is the best position at 6 curve due to the aim assist barriers. : 6.9 has a thick cushion on the target's outline. Once you enter that area you're in the aim assist but it's tough to get on target if the aim assist is strong (low yaw&pitch). : 6.8 has a smaller cushion. It feels slow, slippery, and bouncy. : 6.7 gets directly on the target's outline then hits bulletproof plastic that stops you from getting on target. It's decent but it isn't smooth. Hitting this extra strong barrier made my teeth hurt. *THIS SENSATION IS THE MOST OBVIOUS. IT'S RAPID BUT GETS STUCK ON OUTLINES.* : 6.6 can get on to the target but there's no aim assist on like 20% of their outline. I only feel aim assist in the middle 60% of the character. I couldn't make this feel good; it always felt like I was missing and hoping the aim assist locked on. : 6.5 only has aim assist in the stomach. : 6.4 - 6.3 there is no aim assist. Once it reappears it stops feeling like it's pushing you away. : 6.2 it reappears in the stomach but it feels stronger. Like you're hitting something sticky instead squishy. : 6.1 the aim assist expands to roughly the width of the character's head. Like 20% of their center. : 6.0 it expands to almost the edge of their shoulders. : 5.9 there's aim assist on like 80% of the character. : 5.8 it's the character's outline. : 5.7 it starts to feel slippery like 6.6 did. I'm on PS5 now and used the 5 curve setting (I think. The outer threshold patterns are different than they are on PS4...) and it seemed solid but felt slow. 0@4 on ps5 has an input delay similar to 0@10 on ps4. I'm pretty sure the same aim assist barrier thing is happening at every curve in a similar pattern. ::The sticky aim assist at 5.8 is a solid brick that turns into rubber as you decrease to 5.4. Rubbery aim assist helps stick to targets while tracking without actually locking on. After 5.4 it turns into (push away aim assist) until ~4.7 where it starts to morph into rubbery aim assist until 4.3. From 4.2 to ~3.8 it's changing but I can't describe it, it's similar to what happens between 6.2 and 5.8 but different. ____________ *This is how the aim assist felt to me at different decimals and curves.* 0* (feels like 4.0 & 1.7 shaped like 1.3) 0.1 (solid column with no cushions) 0.2 (slim stick with feathery cushions) 0.3 (sticky brick, similar to 1.4 but .5 size) 0.4 (sticky line surrounded by seran wrap) ^Faded version of 1.5 and 5.6. Use default aa 0.5 (soft brick at very low numbers) 0.6 (a rolling pin. Like 2.2 but a line) 0.7 (idk but it's bad. A line of poo) 0.8 (circle with hollow center, smaller 1.3) ^It protects Lifeline and feels slow 0.9 (sliver of 1.0 expands) 1.0 (sticky sliver similar to 6.0) 1.1 (quicker 1.2) 1.2 (sticky center slippery edge) 1.3 (circle with a hollow center) ^ Struggles vs Big characters 1.4 (column of 1.5 becomes 80% sticky) ^ can't get to 20% center 1.5 (column with sticky center like 5.6) 1.6* (the gap of 1.7 becomes a column) ^ bouncy edge, slippery center 1.7* (columns with a hollow gap) ^ the gap is very wide like 9 curve 1.8 (circle of rubber aim assist like 5.6) 1.9 (sticky area of 1.8 is wider; like 5.7) 2.0* (sticky circle) ^make yaw & pitch different, pitch is center 2.1 (almond of bouncy sap) ^decent but size is too small 2.2 (a sphere I can't stay in center) 2.3 (stickier than 2.4 but sketchy) ^columns with hollow gap, thinner 1.7 2.4 (wider 2.5) ^It's decent. Similar to 0.4 2.5 (sticky spectral amorphous idk) 2.6 (sticky stomach with bounce?) 2.7 (thinner 2.8) 2.8 (push away assist shaped like 2.9) 2.9 (empty area of 3.0 is wider) 3.0 (slim empty almond with push) 3.1 (empty toothpick with push away cushions) 3.2* (squishy almond? with sticky center) ^center of 3.3 becomes sticky and expands 3.3* (thinner version of 3.2, stickier 0.5) ^soft brick in cushions? like 5.5 or 5.4 3.4 (ultra sticky chest, 3.2 but no cushion) 3.5 (like 4.0 but head not included) 3.6 (almond wider than 4.0 shaped like millennium eye) ^Pupil is soft brick; very similar to 0.5 3.7 (center of 3.8 expands and dissolves) 3.8 (is a bouncy brick) 3.9 (similar to 4.1 with bounce) 4.0* (hollow almond surrounded by squish) 4.1* (no almond squishy column. Like 5.5?) ^ Column is as wide as Horizon 4.2 (thinner version of 4.1 like 1.8?) 4.3 (is a squishy brick at low yaw/pitch) 4.4 (ball of something) 4.5 (ball with sticky center? something's odd tho) 4.6 (wider 4.5 struggled vs caustic & valk) ^Big donut with little hole. ::Lifeline tougher to shoot as I increased to 5.0 5.4* (is a rubber brick) ^Tracks less than 5.5; gets on target easier 5.5* (is rubber surrounding a rubber brick) ^Better than 5.6 'cause I can free-aim center 5.6 (is rubber surrounding a thin sticky brick) ^ Great iron snipers, allows aggressive aim 5.8 (is a sticky brick like 2.0) 6.9* (solid circle) *s indicate what I preferred. ________ Video explaining my per optics setup: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kpD3_uc2nHI.html

Insanely informative video. The subdivisions in the response curve values is something I’ve never heard talked about.

Good morning, this is day 2 of me trying to reach out and have a conversation with you surrounding understanding this better. As a fellow optimization and improvement person. I have gone through all of your videos yesterday on this topic and I am very interested in also helping you out. Because someone who has figured this out, but is still plat/diamond must have certain aspects of gameplay that I might be able to provide value to. I peaked at #17 pred on Xbox (I don’t care about rank in terms of ego or anything). You have done me a huge service in creating these type of videos. Would love to talk farther on this subject

Great video sadly most of the number talk i couldn't fully understand you explained it really well i'm just kinda dumb got a learning disability where i struggle to understand the concept but i did understand a bit of it my setting are at 3 deadzone,1 outer, and 2 Response curve i wish it was a bit better to a bit easier micro adjustments but i tried 2 deadzone in a couple of tdm games and aside from a bit more stick drift which was a bit more Uncomfortable and it also affect my aim assist a bit to stick and track my target i play on a 220 yaw& pitch with 180 extra yaw only and ads 140 yaw & pitch i used a conversion chart a while back so i know full well i want to play on a 4-4 setting i been playing apex since the og days haven't missed a season but started my journey on alc about season 9-10 and still struggle to fine that part setting that is just right for me and i have watched countless youtube videos from different channels that give in depth Explanation of each alc setting and a bit of Recommendation of what is about right but again it's so hard to find that perfect setting for me i have thought of countless times where i should just give up on apex because i can't seem to find that setting for me and i still struggle even now after watching you video a bit but has helped me understand a bit more of what i should be adjusting and i know i don't & can't play classic anymore because Linear is a way more natural feel to it and i stay on alc because Regular setting i can't go back to since it lacks the full ability to fine tune to your needs

Hey, I was wondering if you could possibly help me figure my response curve. My free look yaw and pitch settings are 400y 310x with 90y and 100x ramp up. My ads settings are 380y and 360x with the extra being 90y and 100x. I used to like 0 dead zone, 2 outer dead zone and 4 response curve but lately I’ve notice I’ve been tracking beside people. The ones I liked but weren’t a fan of were 5 dead zone, 3 outer dead zone, 3 response curve. 0 dead zone, 7 outer dead zone, and 7 response curve *this one felt slow. 4 dead zone, 7 outer dead zone, and 4 response curve. *It felt a bit jittery. I also want to mention that 5 dead zone, 3 outer dead zone, and 3 response curve I like with my elite series 2 controller custom settings. I.e. I used instant with 5 ticks.

How do you test out your aim assist? Because the range aim assist for me isn’t the same as it is in game so I play arenas games and adjust my alc’s in game each other round to see what locks on close and mid range. But I only used what I thought was standard 4.0 response curve by sliding from 0.0 to 4.0. I feel like it could be much better if I adjusted it by each decimal like you do. I’m on Xbox though

Hello! I appreciate the amount of work you spent on this. Sounds quite appealing that you're dedicated to analyzing this to such an extent to help others! I don't think you've ever shared any proof that aim assist is "different" based on what decimal position you are on in the response curve. Are you able to share the specific time of a video or practice that led you to such a conclusion. While it is indeed probable that players can customize their response curve to the final (by the way good find!!), it does not seem plausible that this decimal affects the aim assist given on ALCs. However I am indeed open to see the evidence that led you to this fact especially since there's great analysis being shared here. The reason I am asking is because if someone comes across your video they might be confused if they can't find what is backing up your observations. Again, please be well and take it easy. Apex can definitely transform into a rabbit hole that is a time sink so going down that path even if it might return minimal gains may not be worth it.

One thing I don't see anyone asking is what do you mean by "blocks?"

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SnI904J7Epk.html video with visual examples of the hitbox of 0.0 response curve ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2KoRAbUCiM8.html video with visual examples of sticky circle hitboxes

So if anyone is listening 3.1 on the response curve is the sweet spot and of the deadzone is at 1.9?the one just before u hit 2. its aim assist for me.

Would love to talk about this topic with you. I use to run 0 3 9 and always felt something was wrong but couldn’t use 8. And I swear to god I was using 8-7-7 because it felt exactly what I needed and I was trying to use lower deadzone than 8 but it wouldn’t work. These videos are exactly what I needed

Well this sucks since I'm on Xbox can't even figure none of this out for myself

dont care still playing 4-3