Rethinking The Women at The Empty Tomb: The Mark Series pt 66 ( 

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Isaiah 30:1-4

Don't forget the conjecture, confirmation bias, assumptions and cat.

@@freshstart4423 What that have to do with this comment?

@@freshstart4423that passage is about Israelites making an immoral alliance with Egypt... what was your point?

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I believe it was Todd White who said Mary was the one person to know 100% who Jesus was...... she knew she was with no man..... I thought that was pretty wonderful so many things we just read past in the Bible without really thinking (at least I know I'm always thinking and learning new things normal things I just read past can be so meaningful) I just thought that was a cool point

Thank you for so much encouragement, Nadja! The Bible truly is an inexhaustible mountain of treasure.

I knew what he was going to say, but at the same time i was like do i know what he's going to say? 😅

Yeah sometimes Mike says something like "I'm already feeling how I'm losing so many people right now" when he's connecting 25 bible verses across the old and new testament proving a point and my brain just eeeeever so sloooowly goes to a place where things are more simple. Like food or something xD

I watched it twice. 😂

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Hi Mike I'm still waiting for the call

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Yes, that is truly beautiful!

The fall of man began when men could not tell women not to eat and gave in. As the leader it was Adam’s responsibility to protect and provide for his family. Even though Eve sinned before Adam, God questioned Adam first (Genesis 3:9). This was because of the leadership role God ordained for husbands in marriage. Just as sin and death came through one man, Adam, it is also through one man, Jesus Christ, that grace and righteousness are given as free gifts to sinners. The naming of Christ as the Last Adam and the multiple comparisons of Adam to Christ would be invalid and nonsensical if original sin came through Eve.

@@Sherlock245 I agree, what you said about Adam. Eve was the last of Jehovah's creation and the least experienced, Adam listened to the least experienced creation instead of the wisdom of the one who created wisdom and therefore dammed many.

If I may, a correction to your analogy to make it ‘apples to apples’ 🍎 The fall of man began with a Woman, so too the salvation of man begins with a Woman. Adam and Jesus is each the ‘effective cause’ of sin entering and of sin being taken away. So too is Eve the ‘instrumental cause’ of death coming into the world, so too is Mary the ‘instrumental cause’ of life coming into the world.

@@Sherlock245 I don’t think it would be nonsensical if original sin came thru Eve first. I actually believe it was beautifully designed to be that way. Sin and death entered the world thru Eve to Adam just as life entered the world in Jesus thru Mary. The Gospel of John draws this out as he harkens back to Genesis and the relationship of Adam and Eve- in union with one another. In the beginning…Jesus is the light etc. John’s first chapter parallels the days of creation with ‘The next day’ the next day, and the next day and then Chapter 2 starts: On the third day…. Counted up, it’s the 7th day- a new marriage is happening; a new creation. Jesus steps in as a new Adam as the new bridegroom in Cana; bridegroom to his bride the Church…. There is so much more, but I’ll throw it back to you if you’d like to respond to this setting of the stage.

So how does Mike Winger satisfactorily reconcile the original ending of Mark with the other accounts? In og Mark the women don't obey the stranger at the tomb's instructions to go to Galilee and tell the disciples the good news but choose instead to tell no one anything - end of story, so in og Mark not only does no one _see_ the risen Jesus the disciples themselves never even get to _hear_ about it! And if Jesus said things on the cross other than "My god my god, why hast thou forsaken me" why didn't Mark report them? Why's it left up to the Mike Wingers of the world to imply that other things were 'probably' said but Mark didn't consider them important enough for his particular account? Was Jesus's forgiving of his enemies on the cross not worth mentioning for Mark? Its like the later gospels added the meeting between Jesus and the disciples that was only alluded to in og Mark! If this was the case they would have to have completely invented the dialogue that was said at this meeting!

@@cardcounter21 "In og Mark the women don't obey the stranger at the tomb's instructions to go to Galilee and tell the disciples the good news but choose instead to tell no one anything - end of story, so in og Mark not only does no one see the risen Jesus the disciples themselves never even get to hear about it!" Why are you ignoring the account that documents what they saw and supposedly never told anyone? The author was not believed to have been one of the woman, so the author would have had to find out from the women. Why are we forced into such wooden readings that they never said anything? Divine encounters in the OT and NT tend to have a strong effect on people. Do you think the woman just kept running away, across Mesopotamia, across modern-day India, and through modern-day China? As you'll notice, it's not mentioned that they stopped running, so we're forced to believe they simply never stopped, right? " And if Jesus said things on the cross other than "My god my god, why hast thou forsaken me" why didn't Mark report them?" All accounts are selective. Or are you operating under the preconceived notion that historical documents document every small detail that the author saw directly or gathered together from other sources? Have you noticed a lot of history doesn't refer to frequent trips to the bathroom? "Why's it left up to the Mike Wingers of the world to imply that other things were 'probably' said but Mark didn't consider them important enough for his particular account?" It doesn't take a Mike Winger. It takes anyone with a modicum of understanding. We have gaps of hours, days, and weeks between events discussed. Do you think everyone was standing around silently for extended periods of time until the next topic was brought up? That if something isn't brought up, it's because it didn't happen? "Was Jesus's forgiving of his enemies on the cross not worth mentioning for Mark?" Deserves the same response as above. Repeating yourself doesn't make what you said any stronger.

​@@TheEngineerd _'...All accounts are selective...'_ So what if you only ever get to read one account? What if og Mark is the only account that ever reaches you? What would you make of the ending? You'd be left with the questions "Who was the mysterious stranger?", "Did Jesus really rise from the dead, because no one actually saw it?", "And why did the women disobey the stranger/angel and say nothing to anyone when it brings the story to a crashing, inconclusive, end?" Each gospel account is a telling of the story as the authors believed it was. Why on earth would three of them 'select' to omit the line "Today, you will join me in paradise" when it's iconical and vital to the overall message of the story! This idea of the four gospels being 'selective' is utter garbage! It's Mike Wingers weak attempt to try and explain why they give almost completely different accounts of Jesus's words and suffering on the cross! _'...Why are you ignoring the account that documents what they saw and supposedly never told anyone?...'_ Because all those accounts came _later!_ And just as there's evidence scribes tried to 'add' an ending to og Mark to make it more satisfactory its also plausible the other gospel accounts _added_ the meeting between Jesus and the disciples that was only alluded to in og Mark! Its called progression! _'...Or are you operating under the preconceived notion that historical documents document every small detail that the author saw directly or gathered together from other sources?...'_ The gospels don't fall into the category of traditional historical documents because they're supposedly divinely inspired! And when they are delivering a message so consequential to our eternal fates its vitally important they are consistent and without irregularities that can sow any seeds of doubt. _'...It doesn't take a Mike Winger. It takes anyone with a modicum of understanding. We have gaps of hours, days, and weeks between events discussed. Do you think everyone was standing around silently for extended periods of time until the next topic was brought up? That if something isn't brought up, it's because it didn't happen?...'_ Deserves the same response as above!

@@cardcounter21 When you take into account it's largely witness testimony, and you look at it more as a forensic case, then it makes a lot more sense as to why the written accounts would differentiate. I suggest reading Cold-Case Christianity by J. Warner Wallace.

@@b-1edward293 But as I said in the previous comment the gospels are not meant to be normal eye witness testimony, they're meant to have been inspired by God himself! Does J. Warner Wallace adequately explain why _God_ would give differentiating accounts?

Stay w it- read your Bible, get a good commentary- God will answer all your questions-I am going on 20 yrs- love the Word and still learning about the character of God and more understanding of the Bible--God Bess!

Even Napoléon would be renowned as _tall,_ rather than short!

What if you are 7’1”?😳

Sorry, you’re just wrong

Maybe he picked women for just this case so men would listen and not just tell them to hush you don't know anything. Just a thought

@@curatinghumanism do you have a better argument?

The author had a Dilemma here. It may have been seen as unreliable to have women as witnesses, but it was a woman's job to take care of the body post death. It would have been more unbelievable for men to witness the empty tomb first as it was not their job. So to increase the Believability of the tale, he had women discover the tomb. Of course a tale set in a certain time period Would have element of truth from that time. To me it still seems like an author making things fit into the narrative to make it seem truthful.

@@ilbhaley79 it sounds like you are making up a conspiracy theory to debunk what you perceive as a conspiracy theory….

Why are you advertising that you like lies? :-)

Michael is the name of one of God's greatest messengers and angels.

Hello dear brother, I am a Messianic Jew originally from Israel but now I am living in Australia ( as a believer for the last 4 years in Mildura. 🕎🌎🌍🌏✝️

You might look at a video titled, "Why Calvinist can only say Jesus "might" have died for you." It might give you some ideas why there are objections to Calvinist doctrine.

@@NdxtremePro thank you. I do understand how someone can say that and it just comes down to a lack of understanding of God and how he works. The Bible teaches of the sovereignty of God. He controls all things. Nothing happens that is not according to his will. See there are people who are going to hell and some that are going to Heaven. Not everyone is going to heaven and not everyone is going to hell. When God made this world he already knew who was going to be saved and who was not. Jesus died for the ones who are going to Heaven. Jesus did not die on the cross for the ones going to Hell. That would make God lesser to say he didn’t know who is saved and who is not. Jesus died for who will believe in him. The Bible also gives us our condition and saying we are dead in our sins. We are a slave to our sins. We can not come to God on our own. If you think you chose to believe in God or that Jesus died for you, it’s really you responding to Gods grace and him electing you. So no one knows if Jesus died for them until God calls us to him then you’ll know. I know I’m not a great communicator so I hope I wasn’t confusing. To me the Arminian view is just less deep Calvinist view. Both believe in the same saving gospel they just differ on how it all works. Calvinist from my perspective is just a deeper understanding of the Bible. Both will be saved.

@@EkaRudi Thank you for your massage to me. I’m a fairly new Christian or follower of Christ so I don’t hold a position of much knowledge. I have been basically addicted to this. I feel as if my soul is trying to catch up for all the years I didn’t know. I study and read and re read the Bible. I listen to many pastors even ones I know are heresy just to hear a distinguish the false teachings. But mostly to highly recommend pastors. I love Mike and this channel a lot and it has helped me understand a lot and I can tell he is a great guy. I’ll check out the names you gave me. When I looked into Calvinism or what ever it’s called it all aligned with the Bible. I do have tons more to know and grow and learn.

@@AlexanderTate. I hope this can help us to have more hunger about the Word of God and have deeper and correct understanding about the Word

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On the Gospel of Peter, it is amazing to me how God’s word turns into mysticism as time goes by.

Correct. I don't know what day specifically Jesus died but I don't believe it was a Friday. There were two sabbaths the week Jesus was crucified. The Old Testament tells us that the 14th of Nissan is passover, Jesus dies on the day of passover, and the 15th is the first day of the feast of unleavened bread, a day if rest (sabbath). So the 15th of Nissan is a high day sabbath not the 7th day or weekly Sabbath.

I know this is an old comment, but in case you didn't get an answer from another video, Mike is using a software called logos. It's basically a digital reference library for Bible resources, super helpful but its not free and can very expensive depending on how many books you purchase on that platform. IMO totally worth it

@@amyrenee1361 I'm not talking about church, I'm talking about Jesus. I was nearly rapped in a church by a church elder and then everyone said it was my fault. Church and Jesus are many times diametrically opposed.

@@amyrenee1361 Which of the teachings of Jesus support what you described those people doing?

​@@amyrenee1361 How does the actions of others make Jesus her oppressor when he is just as against those acts? The christian God didn't put that or ANY shame on us.. religious people have

Gosh maybe I will be hated here, but women in this time have more of a voice in society and the church than they have ever had. The rise of female pastor and leader has been accelerated in modern Christianity (which I don’t agree with). As we speak we have a female Vice President in arguably one the most influential countries on the planet the USA. Also along with that women have a sexual freedom that 50 years ago they would never have. I want to be make it clear the abuse that has happened to the 2 women in the comments is gross and abominable. But to say that women’s voice have not grown or is not being heard into society especially in western society is not true. My question as a women is are we doing good with our voice.

@@claudiabailey5302 I have been nearly raped, sexually assaulted, discounted, called a Jezebel spirit, kicked out of churches, called spiritually inept because my husband died (it was my fault because I didn't care enough about him, you know), and it even went as far as a church trying to harass my husband and I to leave our property because he was an ex-convict. I have little respect for churches ran by white men. They have hurt me more than any other organization I've ever been involved with. I'm trying a new church who has a female pastor. We'll se but so far it's better.

The King James Version

He uses various ones, sometimes the ESV and the NASB or NKJV. I don't know if he's ever recommended a study Bible. The ones he'd tell you to avoid are the message, mirror and Passion bibles. The last two avoid like the plague!

Hahaha…. Me too. No wonder I have been called archaic 😅. 👍🙏❤️

You're just bragging lol

And I’m a 5’ 5 male maybe I am meant for that time too

We have all been made for such a time as this, we where made for time that we where born in. (Esther 4:14) I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring ❤

@@dolly3141 Yes, Dolly

Mary Magdalene was first person to find the empty tomb. The apostles. chose to believe otherwise

In which universe does a man who threatens you with eternal torture in a lake of fire if you don't adore him give dignity to anybody? :-)

Woman always had dignity and recognition. Jesus brought light to that