Vielen Dank für das Video! Als ich klein war ist mein Großvater einen 190E Evo gefahren. Nicht im Renneinsatz, aber sehr schnell im Straßenverkehr. Ich denke das hat mich geprägt in Hinsicht auf meine Leidenschaft für schnelle Autos und gerade dieses Modell hat immer eine gewisse Faszination für mich. Der Evo meines Großvaters wurde nach seinem Tod innerhalb der Familie verschenkt und hat schließlich einen neuen Besitzer gefunden, welcher ihn auf der Nordschleife bewegt. Da gehörte er auch hin.
yes i know, but he shifts up without to clutch (and clutch to shift down). I only know that from sequential gearboxes where you can shift under full load with the electronics cutting out the ignition for a short moment. this seems to be some kind of Group B wizzary. Atleast i saw Röhrl doing something similiar in the Quattro S1.
What a real gear box. Footwork is just like my 5:00 drive home from work. Constantly up and down thru the gears with braking as needed. lol. Maybe not quite so hard on the gas.
Downshift, engine breaking, clutch kick etc, in fact this is the same function into your car :) He upshit in rev matching without clutch, but you can do it into your car to, for the best & probably the worst.
Damn, if i had to make a list of the world's best drivers it would be 1. WRC drivers 2. Hillclimbers 3. the rest (dont wanna make a long list either but you get my point!) Nice driving man, keep on going !
Peeters M Yes. Because of the breakneck speed. As you certainly know, F1 top speed is easy over 300km/h, they are much more faster than WRC cars, especially in bends. That what makes F1 harder.
Peeters M F1 is harder to get to the limits, harder to keep under control at the limits and harder to catch if lost it. So of course, they know the track like the back of their hand but it's goes without saying at this level. Not to mention when they race under a heavy rain. Whatever, if I could be a half as skilled as a WRC driver, I would be the happiest men in the world.
depends on the gearbox really. some don't like it, others will slip from gear to gear like in the video. also getting the revs just right allows seamless gear change. I found with my car which has a 530,000km flogged to hell with 3/4th syncro still shifts well with no clutch but is temperamental depending on oil temp. My old vw goes through gears like butter without a clutch. One hyundai getz I drove brand new loved no clutch shifting, but crunched with clutch if I shifted too fast.
I tried too, but my feet are short so I can't really reach even with my foot fully sideways. However I can reach somewhat in my VW as the pedal is on the floor like in this video. Looks like they have the pedal closer together than in a standard car.
does anybody know a video of the mechanics of these types of transmissions and gearbox? like I'm confused as how he doesn't engage the clutch when upshifting but he uses it to downshift and the shifting looks like it goes up and down or is it a really short shortshifter?
As you can see in the video from 4:55 on it's a classic H-pattern with the first gear in left-forward position. The internals look similar to everyday manual transmissions, only that the gears are cut straight and there are no synchronisation rings.
Straight cut 6 speed? Must have really short gears in the diff the way he rows through them. I love the sound of that 16 valve intake! Impressively calm and smooth driving for such speed. His composure is like he’s driving home from work, very cool 👌🏻
@@finnice Nope it has the more powerful Formula 1 based engine, Judd V8, only 1 liter more of capacity than the MB Inline 4 but twice the power. As you might notice this car pulls way too hard and fast for a DTM 340 HP 2.5L Inline 4, more like a 600+ HP 3.4 Judd V8. They both sound very similar at WOT and absolutely amazing.
wow nice video and great ride, !1 les pilotes de formule d aujourd hui et la nouvelle geenration de pilotes de monoplace , ont oublier ce qui est le pilotage , le vrai et surtout le fameux pointe talon!! a l epoque que je rouler en Formule 3 , vive cette technique :) merci .. ty :)
These hill climb drivers are the ones I give the most respect to. No room for a thousandth place decimal when it comes to hill hill climb time attacks. I salute all you crazy (in an endearing way) sons-a-bitches. The most hardcore racers of all. That's a fact.
Ugh I dony understand this?! I drive stick. He changes shift without gas and clutch(so its a sequantial tran) but if he has to brake a bit. Pushes the clutch ... why? Im confused
BloodPshyco73 i hope i'm correct here, race transmission has straight gears(hence the wining) this enables him to pull the next gear simply by going off the throttle and shifting at the same time. when you release the throttle your trans runs 'free' for a split second (this doest work in downshifting as there is a constant force on the trans when braking)
Bart Paret its called dog engagement. . Yes the straight cut gears whine but has nothing to do with how the gears select. Basically its a gearbox with no syncro rings which lets you change up without the clutch and as fast as humanly possible.
BloodPshyco73 Because it is in fact not a sequential transmission (because if it were sequential shifting upwards would constantly be in the same direction (either push or pull) and shifting downwards in the opposite direction). Even then, downshifting without a clutch is possible but very difficult even in a vehicle with a sequential gearbox, because there would be very little time to allow the engine to rev match when you're blipping the throttle heel-toeing. This guy's got a dog box which is some middle way between an H-pattern shifter and a sequential gearbox. It allows extremely quick upshifting, often without a clutch, but it also allows him to skip gears when downshifting. He pushes the clutch on the downshift so he can apply the heel-toe technique I mentioned earlier so that the engine revs at approximately the same amount of revs as the gearbox, which makes for a smoother downshift so that you don't upset the rear end of the car too much. At full revs upsetting the rear end of the car could mean that you canget some sort of lift off oversteer or other things ruining your lap times. Saves the clutch plates as well (marginally), but racers usually don't care about that.
***** A dog engagment is a gearbox with no syncromesh rings. A dog leg box is a gearbox with the 1st gear down and back to the left which can be either a dog engagment or syncro.
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Hes changing gears without clutch only wen hes gearing down and intermittently presd the gas to dpeed up yhe engine for quicker change. Also wen hes braking he revs the engine to create more compression
yeah he switch gear at high rpm i know some other people shift above the rev limiter but to doo that you need better valve spring and a engine that can handle it
+Antoine Roy lol. he's not shifting above the rev limiter as that's not even possible (hence the name rev LIMITER). The car has a dogbox transmission which has no syncros, allowing the driver to take the car out of gear without the clutch and pre-load the next gear which he then pops the transmission into gear by pressing on the throttle again. As for revving the engine while braking - he is heel-toe downshifting AKA rev matching to allow the car to downshift extremely fast without causing the back end to shimmy.
+Brandon Moreira i know all of that but if you read my shit back i know some people shifting 500 rpm over the rev limiter to get more compression and brake power and you do that by the use lf something you call the clutch otherwise the gear wont go in
+Antoine Roy Im not going to argue about if you supposedly "saw" someone shift 500 rpm about the rev limiter. I was saying its not possible because a car that has a legit rev limiter will not let the engine go past the set rpm of said limiter. the rpms will just bounce back.
not necessarily. you CAN upshift without using the clutch on a synchronized constant mesh. but its not advisable. you can have a dogbox with synchronizers. and you can have a clutchless shift like these. this trans is synchronized. and you can shift clutchlessly on the upshift.
I read a few comment which say that a daily car should use a dogleg gearbox. Of course you don't wear the clutch but my opinion is that every car company has a reason not to use it. Also is not as expensive to make a dogleg as a normal gearbox for plant . So there must be a reason. ;) Ofcourse this i my opinion and i'm not vertical about it.
@@carlosmartos7009 He is braking with his right foot 90% of the time. I had a hard time learning to left foot brake because I usually did what he did out of habit, but once I learned I was able to pick up a second a lap. I can only guess that he has a stock gearbox in that car and not a dog-ring gearbox where you only use the clutch when you are in 1st gear.
