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Returning My M3 Max MacBook Pro 

Bjørnar Kibsgaard
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Its going back to Apple and here is why.
For the impatient of you, the why is at this timestamp: 7:20
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@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife 5 месяцев назад
I hear you for sure. Functionally I realized my M2 Pro Max was identical in functional performance so I stuck that that. I feel like even now, the M1 Max and M1 Air are still the best value for the money.
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
The release of M3 makes the older M2/M1 a good value for sure!
@GregIllidge
@GregIllidge 5 месяцев назад
I got a refurbished mbp m2 12 core today like you mentioned in the video. I'll run some tests and see how it feels going back to macOS after five years. Im in the same position as I have a decent windows desktop I built and I'm thinking maybe I don't really need this its a bit overkill. It is impressive to have all this performance in such a small 14" laptop though. I was mostly attracted by the power consumption. Thanks for the video looking forward to the next
@Junboe
@Junboe 5 месяцев назад
Bjørnar, your videos have been very helpful in deciding whether to swap over to macOS full-time. I ended up picking up an M3 Pro MBP 18GB 1TB and loved it for about a month, but I ended up returning it this week as I felt like there was nothing that macOS was doing for me that my current workstation and laptop didn't already accomplish. My music workflow is Maschine and Ableton. I did run into issues with Maschine installing on macOS Sonoma but was fine when NI sent me an installer. Overall I was very impressed by the performance of the M3 Pro but for nearly $2500 for the MBP and a Magic Trackpad I felt there was no reason to move on from Windows unless my current devices died. Very easy to fall into the "shiny new Apple product" trap, but if my laptop goes out I will strongly consider doing another MBP. Thank you for your content and I hope to see more from you in 2024
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Reasonable thinking. Thank you for watching. :)
@wasabi333
@wasabi333 5 месяцев назад
Hard agree.
@marcell7406
@marcell7406 3 месяца назад
what laptop u use? im running a acer nitro and having a bad time rn ( fans make noise 24/7 , keybed gets hot during session , battery last 40mins- 1 hr max)
@Wainster
@Wainster 5 месяцев назад
My original comment isn't being uploaded, damn. I said congratulations. I think you made the right choice. Even M1 Studio Max is doing a staggering 174 tracks vs Mac Mini M1 at 109 in the project benchmark test via music-prod. It's selling used in the UK at well under retail too. I found this channel due to your M1 technical testing, so I'm not going anywhere lol. Plus, I'm a gamer and PC building geek too. I think cheaper products will offer more views longer term in your channel IMHO. More people have less to spend, that's my logic. Gr8 vid as always.
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yeah youtube is strange sometimes. Always a geek! Yeah cheaper products might get more views. I plan to do more with Mac using my wifes M1. Thanks for sticking around, take care. :)
@user-kk3jr8gi2x
@user-kk3jr8gi2x 3 месяца назад
My original 8gb M1 Air has kept me from buying new computers - it’s just too good.
@wasabi333
@wasabi333 5 месяцев назад
Hey my friend! Thanks for the video as always!!! Do you not use any more macs now? Only on Windows? I was still considering a mac for producing away from home... Living in a apart sometimes sucks for producing haha. Ryzen 7 5800x here still haha.
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching! Probably going to get a chaper macbook air or something similar for travelling. Or just use my wifes :D
@wasabi333
@wasabi333 5 месяцев назад
@@bjornark Thank you my friend!!! I love your channel BTW!
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@Marko-nx9eq
@Marko-nx9eq Месяц назад
Thank you very much for the honest review which are very rare for Apple today. If RME (the king in writing drivers) has problems, there is really no hope. As they removed support for drivers in the kernel, all of this affects latency. Goodbye apple from professionals.
@Treborray
@Treborray 5 месяцев назад
Respect
@mSantsnj
@mSantsnj 5 месяцев назад
I came from a 2019 Intel, insane difference and I got the $4,000 model. No qualms of course since the jump was huge! Your views are pretty in line with what most are saying, I totally feel like a lot of people including MKBHD said the M3 was barely an upgrade in a sense.
@mSantsnj
@mSantsnj 5 месяцев назад
And he was coming from an M1 and said he wasn’t gonna upgrade haha that’s insane.
@nickwind2584
@nickwind2584 5 месяцев назад
Made the same jump. Went from i9 to M3 Max misunderstanding the power of Apple Silicon. I thought about returning it but figure the M3 Max will be equal to the base M7 in a few years so I’m just prepaying for tomorrow’s performance today.
@mSantsnj
@mSantsnj 5 месяцев назад
@@nickwind2584 well put!!! Same same same 🥂
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Oh yes, are you going from Intel you will see a significant performance boost going to the M-based chips. :)
@mSantsnj
@mSantsnj 5 месяцев назад
@@bjornark yup :)
@Screaming-Trees
@Screaming-Trees 5 месяцев назад
Was it the fans or just better value for money can be found elsewhere? I just the other day got rid of my M1 Max Studio and replaced it with a brand new M1 Max laptop (slightly better spec; 64gb/1TB and 32 core gpu; my Mac Studio was 24 core gpu version). I really didn't like the fact that every so often you can hear the fan. Usually when waking from sleep after a cold night. It's not the fan noise it's the pitch. I found out after I bought the M1 Max laptop that this is an issue with the M1 Studios that was fixed with the M2 Mac Studio. Had I known before I might have been tempted to buy a M2 Ultra Mac Studio but that said I do love the laptop ergonomics. I have more options now in terms of ergonomics and area setup. Makes a big difference. I would like the M3 Max though just for single core performance bump over the M1. That would be useful for things like Diva. Also I wouldn't mind 96 or even 128GB of Ram (probably 96 though as the fewer GPU cores might be a better idea to keep the fans quiet). Anyway, looking forward to what you'll do next on the channel music production wise. Cheers.
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Better value for money elsewhere is the main reason. And that I actually can get a full refund from Apple. Not having to sell it for a depreciated cost.
@DaveDFX
@DaveDFX 5 месяцев назад
M3max performance boost are for 3d and GPU. Great for 3d and apps that uses GPU. Audio and video apps won't get much performance boost. Also the hardware video encoders are basically the same for m1max to m3max. You will get minimal performance boost. Wait for software to be optimized for m3. Blender 3d for example. M3max renders 19 sec vs Desktop 3090 17 sec. Desktop 4090 7 sec. M1pro 3 and a half minute. Laptop wise, Apple Silicon are awesome. Insane performance and battery life. MacOS is good and bad.I use Windows and Macs and just deal with it.
@kaitracid3168
@kaitracid3168 5 месяцев назад
I am thinking about giving it back to.
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
You have the same return-window possibillity where you live?
@kaitracid3168
@kaitracid3168 5 месяцев назад
@@bjornark galaxus has 100 days.
@sskdev5116
@sskdev5116 5 месяцев назад
Pretty much m3 series seems to be a upgrade for those coming from Intel MacBook but not m1 or m2 there is not much gain except you use more 3d related one
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Yeah more gain on the GPU side. Not really worth it price wise (IMO) going from for example M2 Pro to M3 Max. Unless you really need the GPU performance.
@sskdev5116
@sskdev5116 5 месяцев назад
@@bjornark yeah I have the 2017 inch MacBook Pro. I use a lot of 3d rendering work and was hoping for the m3 max to be my replacement but it doesn’t seem so. I guess I have to wait and see for the m4 max series or the m3 ultra
@wazmand
@wazmand Месяц назад
Would you recomend studio one on pc or mac ?
@bjornark
@bjornark Месяц назад
I have no experience with studio one, so cant say really.
@abhignaconscience358
@abhignaconscience358 4 месяца назад
I too want to return my M1 Max but return is not there in my country I liked intel one much more as I can play games on windows partition too
@Wainster
@Wainster 5 месяцев назад
Personally a 9 min vid isn't a long thing to watch, with the knowledge and reasoning included within. We come here for details, impossible to please everyone lol.
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
I tried to not make it click-baity, as such videos often are. Just with some resonable explanation. That was my goal with it. But of course I could have made some timestamps, I usually do that. I just had to go out and do other stuff after filming/uploading. :)
@Wainster
@Wainster 5 месяцев назад
@@bjornark ;) Anyone who can't cope with 9 minutes really should sell their computer, phone and move to the North Pole...
@bernburg1999
@bernburg1999 5 месяцев назад
The Moog app is also not super stable on my Intel Mac… it’s just not a reliable program
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
It works better on Windows for sure. I think its because Apple have so many new security features that develpers need to take into account.
@mojito6629
@mojito6629 5 месяцев назад
Mac is awesome, but I've already decide to use PC because the Mac is getting so high to afford for me
@killyamomz
@killyamomz 5 месяцев назад
How about a hackintosh on your ryzen rig?
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Went that route a few years ago. Its not for me.
@TheMetalMag
@TheMetalMag 5 месяцев назад
sorry half of the video I still don't understand why you give it back! you have that chance but why buying such a machine to give it back?!
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
I like trying different things, and posting videos about it. Since I pay for the stuff myself I am returning it.
@directed6924
@directed6924 2 месяца назад
LMFAO 6000$ you can buy Prophet 10 or Minimoog re-issue.
@bjornark
@bjornark 2 месяца назад
Yes
@heryouhatebuttowhoyoumaste1991
@heryouhatebuttowhoyoumaste1991 5 месяцев назад
My heart dropped. I just ordered my M3 Max late December, and when I saw your update I feared you returned it because it was 💩
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Its not. You will be happy with it.
@psaikrisgaming5866
@psaikrisgaming5866 5 месяцев назад
Girl math says he made 5800 dollars lol
@bjornark
@bjornark 5 месяцев назад
Dont think I said that in the video. Thats stupid.
@Wainster
@Wainster 4 месяца назад
#APPLEMarch24Event :D
@bjornark
@bjornark 4 месяца назад
Hehe, M3 Mac Studio Ultra....? ;)
@Wainster
@Wainster 4 месяца назад
@@bjornark I'd love to see your tests of Studio, or even Mini M3 Pro tbh. I guess cheaper models would get more views more than likely. Not long to wait now!! :)
@bjornark
@bjornark 4 месяца назад
Yeah I am just waiting for Ableton 12 getting out of beta and testing it on the entry level 8GB macbook air. Not sure if I am going to get an M3 mac mini, maybe. The current M2 Ultra starts at 5300 EUR here in Norway. The M3 will probably cost more. I am not paying that.
@Wainster
@Wainster 4 месяца назад
@@bjornark I wouldn't pay it either. Let's see what they do with the M3 cores in the new desktop stuff this time around too :) Air will be fine, but I dare say they'll hike the price, and once you add ram and storage it'll be mega bucks :/
@libremerlin
@libremerlin 5 месяцев назад
I had M1 Air, a great machine but I couldn't stomach macOS. I tried very hard to like it for a year... but no.
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