Hey guys, I just uploaded the second part of Rev Matching - this time with pedal shots. More upshifts, more downshifts. Hope you like them - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-amKdCvS5AzU.html
If you don't really get it by now... Simple way to think about it is. When you downshift without even trying to rev match , if you look at your rpm gauge you'll see that your Rpm increases when you go from a higher gear to a lower gear. That jump in revs is when you're doing the wear on your transmission parts. Basically what you wanna do is tap the accelerator so that the rpm goes up to where it would be after you take your foot off the clutch for a smoother shift. That's matching the speed of the engine to the speed of the transmission.i hope this makes sense
You know, this is the answer I have been looking for a long time. 😆 What you said made me understand it than all of the videos I've watched. Thank you!
Yeah... I should've. But I need another GoPro and I have only one for the moment. I will try to make another Rev Matching video when I'll be having one. Thanks
Downshifting with rev matching is basically the opposite of upshifting or it works in reverse as some would say apart from you have to blip the throttle. You go up a gear your revs drop a bit to give you rpms work you way up threw, downshifting is the same you go down a gear so the revs need to be where you'd be in the gear bellow so the have to come up therefore blipping the throttle, rev matching comes into play.
So What is it called When you change gears without using the clutch? Like going from 1st to 3rd without using clutch ? I have found when wether going upshift or downshift , if you time it correctly you can bypass using the clutch with no grinding
I had a buddy who never rev matched when downshifting but still changed gears as quick as up shifting. The car would buck like crazy and it was always so uncomfortable riding with him. He tried to drive like a racer but didn't have even basic skills to do so.
@@benwan5425 me neither man. Me neither. I found it helps to avoid it unless you’re going like 30mph or less. Any faster and it’ll buck no matter what. But usually I keep it in third until I’m coming to a stop and just throw it in neutral
Got my license a few months ago and just started doing this automatically when upshifting cause it felt smoother and faster, didn't even know it was considered to be a great way of reducing wear. Will have to practice doing it on downshifts, cause I normally just end up taking intersection corners with the clutch down in my inicial higher gear, so I don't have to deal with it 😂
Exactly. As you go from 6th to 2nd (1 gear at a time), you need to hold the acceleration a little longer. Practice will teach you best. Going from 3rd to 2nd is tricky.
@@siddeshmestry498 If you dont have to immediately shift down, let 3rd coast a bit. Then when you are ready to shift, give a good push on your throttle. And dont worry, if you rev say to 3-4k (4k being pretty high depending on the rig your driving) once you shift to 2nd gear, even if your rpms are higher than 2nd gear wants to be, it will catch once you let off the clutch and adjust itself. Feather the peddle to assist it if the rpms are too low.
i have 2006 year diesel bmw and when i try to down shift and i tap the gas like he nothing happens cause my throttle dont response that fast and its really hard try to down shift so???
+99Vehicles TV Dude, I want to say thank you for these videos. Im learning things I've never known to exist. I went out and tried everything you told me, and it all worked beautifully. Subbed!!!! Thank you for your videos!!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking that double clutching is : 5th, clutch in, neutral, release the clutch, hit the gas to rev match, clutch in, 4th... release the clutch, all of this the fastest you can. Clearly the best way to downshift, it became a daily habit, so much pleasure! Thanks for your videos, I like it very much :)
I have trouble figuring whether I should be rolling in 1st or 2nd gear in creeping traffic. My 2nd gear is insanely long in my GTI, so I find creeping slowly with traffic to be better in 1st gear. However, shifting from 2nd to 1st is weird. I have a hard time telling how much I should blip the throttle to rev match 1st gear. I'd accidentally buck the vehicle from not blipping enough or blipping it too much. It's beginning to take the fun out of my first manual car and I don't want to be discouraged. I guess I'll just have to practice it more around my area.
@@ValFinale what if you slowed down in an uphill traffic, but not to a complete stop? second would not be enough to get you moving again, so you need to downshift
@@ValFinale You will get a big jolt if you downshift from 2nd into first driving any faster than like 12kph. Under 8kph (which basically feels like being stopped) it's fine to downshift into first gear and actually helps to slow down the car a little bit without using the break.
Yes. Better with double clutch & neutral revmatch ---press clutch -shift to neutral -release clutch on neutral-revmatch, press clutch-shift lower gear (for synchronos save) but u dont need it. Dont revmatch upshift. Its Not good for clutch and u dont need it. Its dangerous if u upshift on the redline for engine. U need lower revs, so shift slower only to slow down revs itself by time on the higher gear wheel (in the transsmision). Save synchronos. Or double clutch shift - press clutch-shift to N- release clutch- press clutch- shift to higher gear (3to5 or6) Becouse u shift for example 5000to3000revs. Downshift very quickly, u need save the highest revs on the gear wheel, dont allow too much slow down the gear wheel for synchronos. Synchron needs match revs from lower revs to higher revs on the lower gear. 5to4 or 3... If u drive-flying on neutral, dont shift to higher rpm without revmatch before u press the clutch and shift gear. Demage synchronos early.
"Look-look I''m rev matching" - shows the tachometer only. How am I supposed to understand what you did to rev-match if you don't show or explain what to do with pedals?
for downshifting you basicly just press the clutch then chose the desired gear while pressing the throttle or press it when you have choosen whic ever you like its hard to say how much to press the throttle since its different from every gear and every car but its easy to get used to luckily hope it helped
No you have to make sure you always keep your engine at the right RPM to match the speed of the wheels for each gear. When you go down a gear now your clutch is moving faster so you rev the engine before releasing the clutch so that the flywheels and clutch have a similar speed.
That wasn't up shift rev matching. Rev matching is slow when up shifting. You have to wait for the engine RPM's to slow down as where with down shifting you push your foot on the gas to speed up the engine to match whatever gear you're going down to.
It's different for each gear. It's about releasing the clutch when the engine RPM is right for the gear, that means shifting very quickly in the higher gears but shifting slower for lower gears.
That doesn't make any sense, get in your car and upshift in higher gears. You need to do it fast because there is less difference between the gear ratios and therefore less change in RPM. As a result you have to be on the clutch for less time (shifting faster) to get into that gear at the right time (rev matching) whereas for lower gears there is a larger disparity in gear ratios so it takes a longer time for the RPM to drop to the right spot for a proper rev match.
The reason is when upshifting you have to wait for the engine to lower its RPM on its own as where when downshifting you can slam the gas and match nearly instantly
Yeah but in the higher gears the time you wait is no longer than the time it takes to just shift as fast as you can. And that doesn't change anything to begin with nobody has ever argued that upshift rev matching is as fast as downshift rev matching.
that requires a heel toe, brake with your toes whilst you angle your heel to keep the revs up so when you shift down the revs are ready for you to fly off whilst also braking at the same time. If you can master this consecutively (rev match, dump clutch, rev match, dump clutch etc) for example going from 5th to 1st in a tight af corner, the shifting will also use the engine brakes to increase braking force > thus allowing you to brake harder and later, whilst giving your engine enough revs to engage at max torque. It's a very nuanced skill and not easy to learn at all. But it's beautiful, manuals are the purest form of driving.
@@jayh1096 Well said! If Im in 5th coming to my turn, im in alrdy in neutral and on my brakes. Then I will launch out of the turn in 2nd gear. I'll replace those brakes x10! before I gotta replace the clutch, synchros and bleed it all.
I must be a dumbass. I couldn't tell a difference in rev matching or not rev matching. Maybe it has to be experienced (felt)? I dunno. I'm just here to learn to be a better video game racer anyway... it's not like this will help me make $ or anything. Thanks for the vid, man.
Wait so to upshift all you is step on the clutch, upshift then let go of the clutch? I tried that with a 2014 Veloster R spec and it was a pretty rough shift. Does the Veloster have unsynchronized gears? Because I tried this with a 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 and it did all the rev matching.
I’m new to manuals. My dad is trying to teach me but he’s not being very specific. Is there a certain rpm you have to match to for every different gear or do you just hit the gas a little no matter the speed or gear?
I’m no expert aye but yes you’re trying to match a specific rpm that’s specific to each gear. You’re trying to get as close as possible to having the engine match speed with the transmission
Each gear will have its own rpm range, so pay attention as your going up or down where the rpms land when u switch into each specific gear. As you downshift, your rpms will be much higher than when you upshift. So if your downshifting give it a bit more throttle to adjust to going down a gear. Overtime you will know what gears rpm range will be if you are taking mental notes. U gotta walk before you run, so take your time in a parking lot or something like that so your not making your mistakes in traffic haha Also, when you are upshifting. If you got up too many gears, you will hear your engine bogging down. In which case, u shift back down and let that gear run longer before you shift back up. Hope this makes some sense. Save the manuals!
Why is that my sentra , everytime i press the clutch the rpm increase to 500rpm in all gear up or down. Very annoying i feel like im burning too much gas. Any answer is appreciated, thank you...
Well, if you're stopped and you press the clutch and it adds up 500 rpm, it's an auto revving feature, which is OK. If it revs in any gear, downshift, upshift, it may have a problem. At least, I haven't heard of this yet, honestly.
99Vehicles TV Yes.. stopped or engine run when i press clutch it adds 500rpm. And im Very interesting about auto reviving feature Is this normal to all nissan n16 2003 model? Sir can you give Some usefull link about auto reviving feature.
It's okay to do it slightly too much than not do it enough. The clutch just slows the engine RPM instead of slowing the car. Far less wear. Getting it at least close to the RPM it has to be in for smooth shifts is better than not rev matching at all.
Yes, just make sure you account for the turbo when doing so, its much easier to bog down if you miss the right torque range when shifting, which is usually prior to the turbos engaging.
Yes, push the clutch in, then switch gears, then blip the throttle, then let off the clutch as if you were doing normal up-shifting. As long as the clutch is fully in it doesn't matter if you move the stick before or after the throttle blipping.
blip means push the gas almost like a button to let the revs increase, then change down a gear. This is because shifting down normally makes the engine revs shoot up, but this process naturally slows the car down briefly because when you press the clutch it disengages the engine, and whilst the rev goes down the average normie will then change down gears and hit the throttle. So the car goes through idle which bogs down, then has to rev itself up again once you change down. This is all done through what I believe are the synchronisers in the transmission. but blipping the throttle just as soon as you press down the clutch will rev your engine up whilst the transmission is disengaged, so once you shift down to your desired gear your engine is already spinning at the right revs. So essentially you are bypassing the cars need to synchronise the revs and just doing it yourself, never letting the clutch throw the engine in idle and instead keeping up the engine speed so it never bogs down. Shifting up is essentially the same, except there is no need to blip the throttle. Since upshifting reduces the engine revs, all you do is press the clutch VERY BRIEFLY so the revs go down a few notches and immediately shift up without ever letting the engine fully disengage. Likewise, this saves the car from having to match the revs for you, keeping you at speed and saving wear on your transmission. Double de clutching is the next lesson once you master this lmao
Why do you say this? Its definitely more important when downshifting, but it is still important when upshifting, especially if your revs drop below the match point for your gear and speed
Actually, sometimes when I upshit I take too long, so the engine RPM drops down to idle speed, while the ideal RPM should be much higher (say i'm in 3RD at 3k RPM, if I upshift in 4th I should be at, let's say, 2k RPM, but I'm at 800..). That results in pretty unpleasant jerking. Doesn't that mean rev matching when upshifting is necessary as well ?
Essar rev matching doesn’t mean increasing your revs via the throttle, although this is necessary when down shifting, Rev matching is the act of synchronising your engine speed to your relative speed and gear selected. In your case, you will need to apply some throttle to match the rev’s when upshifting as you say. This could be good training for rev matching if you need to do it on up and down shifting, as after a while, you will learn the relative rev differences between gears and speeds. May I ask why you take so long to change gear?
Oh yes, I am aware of that. I can apply throttle yes, but as I still can't rev match when downshifting, this technique is a bit harder for me. I think the first and easier step for me would be to just shift faster, before the RPM drops too much. I was replying to the original comment poster, wasn't disagreeing with you or anything.
It means to hit the throttle, but short. In this video and in my second video with pedal shots, I floor the acceleration for a fraction of a second. Watch my second video and you'll understand :-)
@@michaelthompson2970 I’m fine with it now lol I’ve gotten used to my truck. It’s a ‘77 Chevy k10 4 speed. Third down a hill is pretty good no matter how steep
@@IzzySk10 Where I like be there are some really steep hills so I use second if someone is driving slow in front of me to keep in simple but most cars on most hill do perfectly well in 3rd if you aren’t driving very slow
btw this video is terrible "OH WATCH THIS VIDEO!!" Ya.. Good thing you explained HOW to actually do it, the steps of it, one time via text "clutch throttle shift". Saying "Rev match upshift" over and over means nothing if the entire point of wanting to watch a video on it is seeing HOW its done
Still fun to do, it's the smoothest possible way to shift because when you rev match in neutral the transmission is being spun with your engine so the only spin difference is the wheels. Where with normal rev matching your engine, transmission and wheels will all being spinning at slightly different speeds even if your very good at rev matching.
This is just a beginners video for rev matching. Heal and toe rev matching is the next step up once you understand how rev matching works so you can rev match flawlessly at any time regardless of needing to brake.
It's not perfect, but it's there. It's still rev matching. I had a few shifts which weren't smooth, I'm not a race driver, but I just wanted to point out the technique.
Yeah, it's not necessarily a rev match, it's more like to feel how fast to shift to drop down the revs properly. I called it a rev match, but you don't need to apply throttle for that.
