REVIEW PART 2 - Trak Racer TR160 Cockpit - Simlab P1-X Comparisons + Driving Tests 

Great review, as usual your attention to detail is 2nd to none. This rig looks good and the additional adjustability has been well thought out which makes it attractive to people. The great thing about profile is that it allows you to adjust everything to suit your personal preference instead of you having to adjust to the limitations of the rig.

Very nice review Will - thanks! I've had a small amount of experience with TrakRacer's customer service, and found Matt to be very helpful. I have a triple monitor stand of theirs which was missing a couple of small parts, and Matt promptly sent them out to me. He also made sure by confirmation emails and photos they we both understood which parts were needed, which I was impressed with.

Thanks for this video and your honesty. You're a gem in this community!

Great video as always. For me, Trak Racer included the spring ball T-Nuts. I purchased a few weeks ago, and was impressed with almost everything. Solid, well designed, great instructions (Looks like the they were updated on 7/11/2022), etc. Had an issue with seat sliders, but TR took care of it quickly and without questions. The covers, however, were horrible and fall off just like you showed. I got the other pedal plate (Aluminum profile with heel plate) with my Sprints mounted directly, and no noticeable flex. I also have no flex in the standard wheel deck, but in fairness I use an Accuforce, so doesn't output as much as the DD2. IMO, this is a "lifetime rig". Also, received a lot of extra bolts with nothing missing. Keep up the good work!!!

A super, independent, nonjudgmental review. Very helpful. Thanks mate.

Looks like a great chassis with back to earth pricing. Any negative feedback to Trak Racer is only going to help further improve. Very healthy circle of info. Appreciate the transparent review.

I’ve taken delivery of a TR160 in the UK a few days ago. I have just opened the packaging and wanted to let folk know that the supplied T-nuts are of the spring ball variety - I was very pleased to see this, as it was the one thing I didn’t like in the reviews I saw online vs some other well know makers. Good to see this improvement in the rig, so please, I had to pause my build to post the news here

There are 2 very rare things in this video: -a youtuber talking honnestly about defaults of the product he's reviewing -Will without his cap

Had my tr160 delivered a few weeks ago, with triple screen mount, keyboard mount, mouse tray drinks holder the works. Had absolutely no issues, all boxes arrived no damage had all required parts and bolts nothing missing. I ordered some more screws and corner brackets to make some mods for button boxes etc, and they sent me extras of all the extra things I'd ordered. Couldn't be happier. And thanks for the discount code cause I used it both times, I think I saved over $150 and was then able to use trak racers loyalty points to get the extra screws and bits I wanted. Again, couldn't be happier thanks Trak Racer team and good review Will and Tom cheers

Great review Will, as always. I ordered my Sim-Lab P1-X (Black Friday/November 12% discount) "right before" I saw this video. While I was initially concerned I might have jumped the gun, your video just reinforced my buying decision. It's unfortunate that Trak Racer still has parts issues even for it's reviewers. Your video reveals some areas where it appears they might be getting their price down by cutting a few corners. However, nobody is purchasing aluminum profile with the expectation and acceptance of possible flex in their Sim Rig. Thanks again for a great and straightforward review.

Thank you for what I'm sure is an honest review--not all rainbows and unicorns, there are bound to be some minor blemishes here and there. This review really helped me with my decision, I pulled the trigger on a TR160 and a bunch of other goodies earlier today. Received tracking numbers the same day. Sounds like the team at TrakRacer is out there to stand by their product.

Ordered with your code! Thanks for a great channel.

Started building my TR160 today...thank you so much to Will and Tom for the build videos, they were a godsend when the terrible assembly guide was offering nothing....but bloody hell it is still a mission to build haha. Doesn't help also when they have been constantly updating parts of the kit, so the parts supplied don't always match the assembly guides.

Hope you had better luck with their support. I received one of their products on 11/23, sent an email requesting a return authorization form as it states on their website for when a return is requested, followed up on 11/25 and again today and sent them multiple messages on Facebook but have received nothing but radio silence. I’m just glad I ordered my triple monitor stand from SimLabs. Showed up in less than a week, didn’t have metal shavings all over the aluminum profile, all of the parts were there, and communication was prompt. Night and day difference compared to my experience with Trakracer. I’m just disappointed the P1X wasn’t in stock when I ordered the track racer copy cat. Now I know better.

I received my TR160 a few weeks ago, with triple screen monitor stand. No scratches on the aluminum, all parts were included and a few extra nuts and bolts in the bag. I should have ordered the keyboard tray too. I included the GT style seat (I am 6'1 (1.85M) and it fits perfect. I have a fair share of automotive / mechanical experience and found the instruction manual more than enough for assembly (you mileage may vary). Get a combo square if you don't have one (great tip from you Will). I should have ordered the keyboard tray too I had one minor issue with a bent piece of steel. Matt and Johan were fast to respond to email and shipped the parts in less than a week. Overall great experience from when I placed the order till my first drive.

i got the src pro v2 its an amazing chassis and the dd1 mount for it is so good nobody in english has ever done a review on it its an italian company really high end stuff at a decent price

Great review, honest as always. My only previous experience with Trak Racer was their triple monitor mount. This was 4 years ago. It had missing parts, bolts the wrong size, the instructions were lacking detail, and I could never get the monitors to sit level with each other, as the outer monitors were bowed downwards, due to the bad design; overall it was a shoddy product that honestly wasn't fit for purpose. It went in the bin a while ago. It seems the quality control issues are still there. The issues you've pointed out - and for the price they're asking - I can't see why anyone would choose this over a P1-X.

Have had my tr160 for a month now. One box was damaged when it arrived. On Thursday. Trak racer had another one sent out straight away which arrived on the Monday. Very happy with mine using dd2 and don't seem to have the same flex in dd2 mount or pedal plate. I did have a few brackets missing but they have sent me a bag with extras so now have spares. Happy with my choice. As far as the manuals go I didnt have any real issues but I guess that depends if you are mechanically minded.

love it will! Awesome rig! Can you please do a comparison/ review video on the oculus quest 2 ?

Almost finished mounting mine TR160. I'm from Italy. All went well, only complain about some missing bolts and T nuts that don't permitted me to completely mount shifer and handbrake support. And many washers missing too (don't know if they are really necessary, as per instructions). Now I'm in contact with my local dealer's in Italy, and they assured me that will ship missing parts as soon as possible.

one of the things i've noticed in my recent rig purchase and I'm not sure why places aren't following simple things like packing lists for each specific order - My rig now been waiting 3 weeks and now be another week because of missing wheel deck and pedal plate brackets didn't even come with instructions and there should be a whats in the box as well. At the $1000+ we pay for these things it should be just standard process.

Did you have more room if you needed it, as far as leg room? Would a taller player be comfortably supported by this?

love your videos great content. I'm new to sim racing just wanted to know is it possible to attach a wheel (just a wheel from a car no button box) to the simicube 2? sorry to go off topic

I am in Melbourne, Australia and bought a TR160 this year. 1. Being a RU-vid professional reviewer must get you better access to TrakRacer than the ordinary punter. Every one of my emails either got no response or took over a week for a response. I made numerous phone calls; one was answered, the rest rang out. 2. I have the direct drive mount with a Simucube 2 Pro. It is 16mm solid steel - much beefier than the Fanatec mount and absolutely zero flex. 3. I have the pedal plate mounted low and close to the profile - no flex whatsoever at that location. I am surprised to see Will's move so much. 4. I have the GT seat. It is too wide and jams the sliders with the tracks set in the default position. If you move the tracks apart to accommodate, the adjustment lever falls out. 5. I have the integrated 3 screen monitor stand. I can get the monitors aligned well but it sags terribly front to back (probably 10 cm) and is just not up to the job. This item is to throw away and I will buy something else. My conclusion - it's definitely cheaper than a P1-X but a P1-X is likely better value if you can afford it (I wish I had bought one).

Why don't the t nuts from the Sim lab fit into the track racer? Is there a difference in the extrusion type and if so could you tell me what the difference is? I am tying to determine which rig is best for me and I would like to know what the difference is between the actual material used. I assumed they were both 40mm sections of extruded aluminum and I assumed all 40x80, 40x120 etc were the same. Would love to get some detail on this.

hello, which size is the screen please ? very nice setup, thank you for sharing

Love the videos!!!!

Is the P1 motion plate compatible with the Track Racer TR 160 cockpit? Are the internal dimensions the same between the TR 160 and the P1? I can't find that information. Thx a lot

I've had mine since June this year and it's been pretty flawless. I got extras of everything and still have enough to bolt on extra parts once I get them. I didn't order a seat and still got the seat bracket too which was nice. I'm in California, not sure if it's a different experience per region. The discount code paid for shipping which was nice. I'm using V3 pedals and an accuforce v2.

Hey mate, loving your videos so informative. I'm going to buy a cockpit, what should I go for Next Level GT Elite or Track Racer TR160 MK4? In a while I am looking to add D-Box or Sigma DK2+. Cheers

Great video. BTW, mine came with the spring ball T-nuts. I am guessing maybe they made a change. No missing parts (actually a lot of extras), and everything fit up perfectly. Also fantastic instructions that look to be recently updated. Wanted the P1X, but too expensive where I live, however, I am now glad it was as I am loving the TR160. Edit: I have the standard flat wheelbase and no notable flex with my DD wheel.

Fantastic review (as always). I just received my TR160 this morning (I live in California) after placing the order on October 29th. Disappointingly, the seat did not arrive with the other 6 boxes. Clearly they still have delivery and logistic issues and I have contacted support & left a v/m on their US contact #. I will update this group with an outcome but am currently extremely disappointed with the experience so far. Hopefully TR will be reading and engaging on this site so we will see. Once again, thank you for your great content

Should I get the pedal plate if I buy huesinkveld ultimates or can they mount right to the pedal floor on the tr160

The amount of times I've cut up my fingers building this thing. Be warned, wear gloves using these leaf spring T nuts. Or be careful. The fanatec wheel mount has a bit too much flex. But for me the pedal mount I got was good, rock solid. All in all pretty good rig.

Another great video. 👍 Would love to see you review the Trak Racer TR8 as well. I've had my eye on it for quite a while but there's not a lot of reviews on its latest iteration.

I’m looking at one of these or a F-GT elite. Which one would you recommend?

My TR160 is in transit this very second... great review Will and Tom!

Do I need a REALLY GOOD PC to run this type of simulator? If yes, what setup do you all recommend me? Thank you so much!

What is you thoughts after owning for a while? I’m looking to buy my first and only rig, 1-2k usd range, got this in mind and also there new TRX?

Thank you for the video. I got a question about the profile itself. You mention the Sim Lab connector doesn't work with the Trak Racer setup and that got me wondering about "universal upgradability" with this rig. Can you share if the spacing/depth in the profile is the same as in the P1-X? This can be a deal breaker. Cheers.

Hello I would like if you could help me with the settings for the iracing especially on the brakes because if I brake hard, always block the wheels, will you please help me? My system is fanatec podium 2 steering wheel F1 ClubSport pedals v3 inverted appreciated

I also own the TR 160. And alot of the items that will has stated about item missing is a common trend. I ordered my rig and it came missing the wheel plate. Ordered a monitor mount it came missing fasteners, ordered the Hotas mount and they only shipped 1 not the pair. As a rig this is very much like the P1X, however their customer service was beyond sub par and I had to resort to Facebook to get anything done. There manufacturing source needs to be questioned with the amount of missing parts that people are seeing. Though I love my rig, I do feel like a second rate customer, due to the poor customer service.

Will, what I really like about trak racer is they have that super cool GT style seat or the rally seat included. Is that sort of thing included with the Simlabs cockpit?

We get a 5% discount using the link at any time boosted? About a month away from ordering this

I literally ordered my TR160 in June.. it still hasn't been fully delivered. I've had to have multiple resends of my goods. Working with Matt is great, but he is so helpless within his own company when things go wrong, and then makes it seem like you are nagging him when he takes your money and leaves you without the product, or any sort of reimbursement. I have had an awful experience with Trak Racer so far, I just hope when it finally does come in that I'm not missing any parts after waiting so long.

Great review! Exactly what I was after. I have heard over and over that aluminum profile rigs were pretty much universal--so I was surprised to see you mention that the SimLab T nut wouldn't fit the TrakRacer profile...are accessories/additional profiles universal as long as you use the correct T nut for the slot? Or there are other hardware incompatibilities as well (bolt threading, etc.)?

Anyone knows if TR160 have been already improved or we are still waiting for it? I mean MK4 on producer site. I want to mount fanatec DD2 on It.

G’day Will. How did you go? Did all of the issues get sorted? Would you recommend this company? Cheers. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃

I'm curious about the flight Sim add-on

How does the discount code work with the link I don’t get a discount and code BOOSTED does not work?

Awesome review. I got mine in August and the key board tray 1 month ago. My key board tray keeps getting loose and drops my key board on the ground. Also I feel that I can't get the wheel its self high enough or the seat low enough and I am only 6ft tall.

eight hand is oscillating in a pivoted point. whats the problem

What's the main difference between the 120 and the 160? Is it worth the difference?

Can you mount the NLR seat mover to these

Im looking to buy a P1x and possibly upgrade to a DD1 later on, right now i have the fanatic CSL elite wheel base, my question is. Does simlab sell their DD mounting bracket separately? or should I hold off on upgrading my rig until I go direct drive.

Racewerk pedals in the background Will? Review coming?

Are your gloves custom made with your logo? That’s absolutely awesome!! Got details on the gloves?

Nice you have the older Heusi Ultimate , miss mine , the newer ones have different joints/bearings and squeaking a lot :-(

Is there a referral code for Trak Racer? I can’t find it 😅

the pedal thing is as realistic as it gets, the firewall in a racecar it flexes too

Awesome videos mate, answers a lot of the questions I have. I'm really torn right now between the P1X and the TR160. The P1X with the accessories I am looking at will end up costing about $3000 delivered, with no seat, while the TR160 with similar accessories will be closer to $2400. Do you think the P1X is worth the extra $600 plus seat, plus import tax? Which would you buy, having used both? Thanks again for the videos!

which is better simlab or trak racer?

You mentioned flight sim controls. Whatever happened to that?

Curious, since this video, did Trak racer address the issues? Ordering one of these rigs soon :) Thanks!

whats the diferance betwen tr160 and tr80?

Do you know if trak racer has made these changes you commented on? I was personally thinking about going with them but I’m not sure with what you found.

Great review, as always. Did you have any issues with shipping delays? I ordered this cockpit over 5 weeks ago, each week being told it would be delivered by the weekend. Still hasnt shipped, 3 weeks in a row now. Matt has assured me he's on top of the warehouse to get it shipped out but no signs of that being the case. Hopefully its not rushed so much it comes with missing parts and bolts as a result like yours. I'll be extremely displeased to spend that much money and wait this much time to have a bad experience 😕

Hey Will! Great review! Just one question about the seat. Is the seat comfortable and not too upright? I'm in the market for this same rally style seat for GT and Prototype racing, and loved the feel of the RSeat seats. Does this TrakRacer seat match up? Thanks!

Hi will great video, I was torn between this unit and the p1, I ended up with the p1 after some research and thinking. Other than the t nuts would the flight sim addition fit onto a p1?

yeah, that wheel mount needs improvement and I cannot buy it until it is addressed. I have the reset of the rig and it is solid.

Is this a full motion sim?

Love my tr160 but building was harder than it should of been,I had to separate and re bag nuts and bolts and every other little thing just to make sense of it,But once I had done that it was a lot easier

I'm going to buy a Trak Racer TR8, do you think it is sturdy and solid enough to hold a Clubsport v2.5 and v3 pedals ? I'm even considering an RS6, but I think it'll have some flex.

1 question trac racer tr160 dd1 or sim lab p1 x

Will Can you tell me for I racing my computer tower how much power do I need?

Can u turn a P1X into a flight sim?

I’ve been thinking of purchasing this rig for awhile now, I live in the U.S and it seems the p1-x is difficult to obtain here. I was wondering overall do you recommend this rig, I just purchased a fanatech DD1 wheel with V3 inverted pedals and I want the best cockpit possible not only to handle my current gear but maybe future upgrades, I was wondering if maybe you could please give me some personal feedback. Thank you, I hope to hear from you and any others in the comment section, keep up the great work and carrying the sim racing community through 2020!

So some good points but other areas that need further work on, which sounds like what I’d expect from what I’ve seen elsewhere too (am lacking any personal experience though)

That pedal plate flex would drive me insane once you have a rig without any flex you just can't go back in fact I'd say it's more important to get rid of all the frames flex than to buy a better pedal set or a better wheel.

How could anybody give this video a thumbs down!!!!!!!

Still waiting on my TR160 but Matt said it should ship next week!

I've just bought a P1-X, did I make the right choice?

"There are flex in the wheel deck" *twisting the actual wheel rim twice as much* 😅

Love to fly a jet Surround sound Maverick style that wud wake up the neighbors :) vrooom

How's that seat? I'm sure some people are curious how it compares to others

I actually prefer the T Nut with the metal point, I don’t find the springs to be any better at all.

What’s the turnaround time for delivery of the rig to the US.?

you should link the first vid. youtube suggested part 2 and not 1

Hi can you tell me exactly what keyboard tray you have there as the ones on the website look smaller

Damn, thought that the TR160 would be a really good choice... but that flex on the wheelbase (fairly easily induced) is not okay, to me at least.

Dam so much cool shit I want on this Channel lol.

Ay first comment! Any tips on how to get a fanatec sponsorship?

I’m a bit surprised you think that they are the main competition for your P1. It certainly looked to me that the base model Racekraft rig that you reviewed a little while ago was better in every aspect? Even the slight flex you showed in the wheel base mount was due to having the alloy one and not the carbon steel one? Great thorough review though as always.

The support is bad and you wont get your product in time or at all. i dont advice to purchase from TR. and kindly if you do some reviews on any product also include the after sale support. so we can trust what you review. by the way i like your rig setup and reviews over all. cheers.

Awsome rig, but the dashboard looks ridiculously huge. 😛

Thanks for the review. Been looking at the tr160 all morning, definitely not buying it now!

What do you think of the seat will?

you're gonna need a bigger wheel to match that display 🤓

Me, two seconds into the video. "Who has a DD wheel and puts their screen there!?!"

Are those hydraulic pedals I spy on the shelf?! 👀