REVIEW - Porsche 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 | EP 131 

In this , Iiameyre, it is a much better combination. In addition, Porsche has a huge history with mid-enige sportscars with 4 cyl displacement.

Finally somebody said the truth that 2,5 suit better to GTS than naturally aspirated 4,0. Janko fully agree with you.

Hello Thomas, what made you want to upgrade? I have 981S as well. Love it. But a small part of me wish it had a little more power. I am not sure if getting a GTS would be worth the jump. At this point I would have to pay nearly $60k more for a overall ‘similar’ car. Look forward to your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

@@jhan4915 My 981S was one of the first cars, from 2012, very well equipped and only 45k km on it, at the end, that’s because the first owner did only 10k in nearly 5 years. Compared to that car, the 718 GTS 4.0 is a other level, way more precise to drive and the engine has a lot more power, doesn’t matter what gear and speed. Despite of those main reasons, I have a better seating position with the adaptive Sport Plus seats, instead of the ventilated standard seats. Besides of that you get a refined infotainment with digital Radio and Apple CarPlay, especially the first I’ll get necessary, during the next years, when they switch off the regular radio stations. That’s why 😃

Tom: Did you drive the GTS 2.5? Just curious.

@@matthewlocker4961 Yes I did, there is enough Power and Torque, but I don’t like the sound, especially not this banging while downshifting,. The 2.5 is permanently loud, but it’s not a nice sound, what I think is necessary, driving with open roof.

@@tomoldigs1353 Tom: Thanks for the update and it's good to hear. To many people beat up the 2.0/2.5T's without any experience with the car. You have so that's all that can be asked. If you aren't familiar with the Soundaktor, this I believe is a huge part of the reason so many people don't like the sound of this car. Porsche, in their infinite wisdom, decided to pipe fake engine sound into the car. All it does is ruins the cabin ambience, causing drones & other horrible side effects. Most people I know who have the T4 have made the removal of the Soundaktor fuse their first change to their car. For me it was & the fuse is never going back in. MOO & FWIW

Well I have not find the time...

Completely agree. I think Janko's opinion is very respectable but very subjective, and surprisingly does not coincide with the general opinion expressed in the many, many reviews about this car that I have read and seen. I have a Boxster GTS 4.0 with PSAM -10mm since July 2020 and it has been 11,000 km so far on all kinds of roads for pure driving pleasure

Dear Test Drive Scotland, thank you very much for contributing to our community. In regards to UK VS Swedish roads, I can not make any comparison. Have not done much driving in the UK. I've driven the 718 a lot and I stand by my word, the 4.0-liter engine does not fit the chassis as well as the 4-cyl engines dose. Please let me remind everybody that I know all about the 4.0 GTS long before I ordered my Spyder.

@@JankoLind thanks for responding, I don't doubt that it is your opinion, I just don't understand it. I'm a 981 owner with the gentler but intoxicating 3.4, I've had a lot of wheel time in the 718, I prefer the 2.0l it's a really nice road car especially in manual form so we agree on that. The 2.5S, not so much, whilst it had great performance I felt it was laggy and not quite so smooth, with some spikes so it surprises me to hear that you think it's better suited than the smooth na 4.0l. I guess Porsche felt the same hence the switch. I don't want to get into the sound, the 2.0l I can handle but no one wants to hear that 2.5l sound when enjoying the car with the top down it's almost offensive 😂. What's your stance on these points? I don't think having the same engine in the GTS dilutes the Spyder, it's still very special with the aero and great that they gave it the same treatment as the GT4 this time around. I'll be getting some more wheel time in the 718 GT4 in the new year but here in Scotland we need a lot of suspension compliance for some of our best driving roads.

It sure is a larger playground :-)

It is a beautiful car to drive the GTS 2.5

Happy New Year Mario, as you understand the GTS 4.o is not my cup of tea. If you are not already, please subscribe to my channel.

Thanks, Marvin, for your support. Please spread the word about my channel. I guess you have honored me with your subscription?

@@JankoLind I will gladly spread the word about your channel.

Congratulations on your choice, a good one. Perhaps you have honored me with your subscription.

@@JankoLind A long time ago... :-)

Thanks, Andrew, me and my family are all good. I hope yours find to. Take care :-) and Merry Christmas!

Mike, congratulations on your 718 T it is a fantastic car. Perhaps you have seen my playlist about my old 718T? ru-vid.com/group/PLlDDzjSsJx0St-GUrGKqqgyvEWIh4o1lF

Thanks, Paul, for your energy and the time you spend on my channel.

Thanks, K, I try my best to explain my thoughts.

Thanks, se u on the premiere

Thank you, Villaman, I wish you the same and please take care of yourself and your family. Wish you the best.

Thanks Stephen, If you are not already, please consider subscribing.

Thanks, Peter, I will try my best for 2021. Please take care.

Yes, the sound of the 4-cyl displacement is a marathon. It's a different tone, some like some don't. I like the 4-cyl displacement because it reminds me of the Porsche history in regards to sportscars.

@@JankoLind I understand your comment of engine history with Porsche. Very few other engines sound as good as a 6cyl NA Porsche engine nearing the top of its rev range in my opinion. It’s very distinctive and unlike any other 6cyl. It’s a shame that turbo charging has been made necessary to hep combat emissions at the detriment of characterful noise. This is why I purchased a late low mileage 991.1. I also have a Cayenne Diesel S so I also know the advantages of torque in everyday driving. We are lucky to have the choice, different solutions and no right or wrong. Happy Christmas, happy driving.

@David White, You write something that is very important, there is no right or wrong. We all love Porsche but we could have (and that's the beauty of it) different opinions.

Thanks for watching Justin. I see the reindeer every day and thought why not film them. If you are not already, please consider subscribing

Thank you, David, for watching my videos in 2020. Congratulations to your Spyder, you will have a blast driving it. Perhaps you have honored me with your subscription​?

@@JankoLind - have been subscribed for a while. Keep the videos coming and hope Sweden is doing OK at the moment.

@@davidrowe96 thanks, we are doing find so far. Take care.

Hi Alex, I showed your book (which is in my shelf BTW) for my family this Christmas 🎄 yes COVID effect us all 😢 hope to see you again sometime.

I agree 718 Spyder Man, perhaps not a big supprice. Please if you are not already, subscribe to my channel.

Gts is by far prettier and more plesant. Porsche punked you and you’re butthurt, I can understandand.

@@tennismaroc They are absolutely delusional. There is a slight difference in the feel from suspension - it's more adjustable, firm and more responsive, but the difference is negligible and mainly in their head (and tires as they impact the feel quite a bit). The drivetrain obviously feels the same because it is the same and the GTS 4.0 will be faster in a straight every time because of lower weight and less downforce. Stock-to-stock GTS 4.0 is 95% of the same car, but in a more liveable package and better comfort options available (entry&drive, front sensors, adaptable cruise, etc. etc). If you put 295's on the rear (which you can do on stock rims), you're hard pushed to feel any difference on public roads.

alf_17 I fully understand you :-) Perhaps you have honored me with your subscription?

@@JankoLind Yes, I have been subscribed for over a year, and I still enjoy your content 😁👍

Hi Stephen, and a big thanks for your comment and contribution to our community. For the record, comparing the GT4 with a non GT car such as the Boxster T or the 4.0 GTS is hard, apples and pears. But if you compare the Boxster T with the Boxster 4.0 GTS wish shares the same chassis that's another opportunity. If you are not already, please subscribe to my channel.

Congratulations to a spectacular car. the 718 must feel extremely light in comparison to your privies 997. Do you know that the 992 Carrera S Manuel is 10 kg lighter than the 997 Carrera. Perhaps you have honoured me with your subscription?

@@JankoLind indeed I am a subscriber now. The 997 4s is a great car as are all S + Porsche’s. But 15 years of development exist and the automotive industry is (as few others) a very high spec industry, very innovative and very based on I&D. We all notice that as end users, don’t we? The 2.5l is much faster, corners much easily and provide great feedback. Not yet ready to evaluate in deep but the feeling is actually of great happiness. Traded an 911 for a 718 might sound crazy and is but is a great move as this car is phenomenal. Ppl talk about the sound but strangely doesn’t critise the 911 turbo or turbo s sound. The 718 2.5 is really a great car and people should indeed test it before following the herd.

Hi Stephen, Just to make sure you understood me, I do not compare the Boxster 4.0 GTS with the Spyder, the previous 718 Boxster GTS 2.5 is a much better comparison.

@@JankoLind Fair point, but the fact many reviewers suggest it’s 95% or so of a GT4 for less money requires the comparison, in my opinion. Your points at the beginning explained why you were not comparing it with a Spyder, but if driving on the road which is better. Would you recommend a GTS 4.0 or Spyder ? Do we need a larger rear diffuser, big wing, larger brakes and wider rear tyres to push and stop 400hp on the road ? We know the best choice for the track, so I guess the GTS 4.0 must be the better choice for the road ?

Stephen totally agree with you. I Think if you compare it with the 2.5 GTS maybe 90% will go for the 4.0 GTS. Just because of that sound and that Engine like in the Spyder. I Think ist suits the 718 GTS much more than the 2.5

I agree too. I'm not sure where Janko is coming from here at all tbh. The monocoque is exactly the same on both Spyder and Boxster, only the suspension components, brakes and aero are different. And 90% of people wont tell the difference, unless really pushing on or on track. The GTS 4.0 is the better road car because of the extra comfort and roof convenience while still offering the stunning performance of the same engine (again electronically detuned by an almost undetectable few HP and 200rpm). I purchased the Spyder because I am a true enthusiast, that's who the model is designed for. However, once I drove the Boxster GTS 4.0 for a couple of days, I sold my Spyder and swapped to the GTS. All the fun, without the harshness and hassle of the roof. Of course, each to their own.

@@RobGalvin65 I would not recommend the 4.0 GTS, the base 718 is much better value for money. I'm sorry but the 4.0 GTS is not something I recommend unless you absolutely need a mid-engine NA flat 6 car. Doesn't matter if it is only for road use and if that is the case go for a Boxster T and you will get the important PTW as standard. MUCH better choice.

Correct Alexander

Yes, there is a difference but I could not find out what it was. It should be the same between the car since they share the same transmission.

Thanks, Alexander, appreciated a lot coming from you. Take care...

Thanks, Mark, and Merry Christmas...

@@JankoLind Merry Christmas Janko🎄

Hi Slovakia, and thanks for the energy chipy1198. Perhaps you have honored me with your subscription?

Thanks, Paulo

Cheers Julian, Tallbergs is a good one. Take care and Merry christmas.

Thanks, drbob s82, I like the 4-pot engines the suit the 718 perfect. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.

@@JankoLind already subscribed!

It sure is but old Porsches are not available as press-cars. Thanks for watching and subscribing.

@@JankoLind Please find a friend who will loan you their GTS 2.5. This is the comparison that needs to be made.

No not legal

Perhaps I misunderstood you but don't go for a Spyder as a daily, you will not be happy with that. Otherwise thanks for contributing to our community.

@@JankoLind I indeed wasn’t very clear. I meant to me a 718 isn’t a car I see myself using as a daily in general, I see it more as a second or third car. But maybe I’m wrong and it can be used as a daily. Right now I have an old school 964 but I’ve been very much on the edge of buying a 718 Spyder or ideally a gt3 touring. That last one was/is a different price point though...

@@ts7902 Makes sense for me now. yes, they are a big different price point.

Hi, will, and thank you for contributing to our community. You write something very important. Within the Porsche community, there is a lot of people that have opinions about cars wish they have never driven. They might have a Porsche parked in the garage but it does not help in most of the cases.

What I love about your reviews is that you obviously love Porsches, but you are candid when comparing the models and options. Look forward to more!

@@willscurran Thanks :-)

Thanks, Yuri for your energy. Perhaps you have honored me with your subscription?

Really respect the opinion and review in this one! Love the Boxster as we own a 2006, 6spd, S model. I wonder if equipping the PDK makes a difference in blending the chassis and motor together better. This all being said, my money is on the 2.5L turbo GTS or S models. I have seen high spec used 2.5L GTS Cayman and Boxster go for low 60's here in California. This is a much better value in my mind.

@@drewmorg. 100% agree with you and more Porsche DNA in the 2.5 GTS since Porsche has a huge history with mid-engine sportscar with 4-cyl displacement. Thanks for watching and subscribing.

Congratulations to your Boxster, take care.

Happy hollidays and please take care. BIG thanks for your subscription.

Thanks Gary, appreciate the time you spent on my channel

Thanks for your energy. I believe you should start (as you did) with the Cargraphic valve control. For most users, I believe that the only thing you need.

Torque? Power delivery? Sound? Are you serious? GT and GTS are exactly the same with regards to all that. How can someone be so biased.

@@sj2345 I am not biased, I just know what I am talking about. Have you ever driven a 718 Spyder? If you drive Gts and Spyder and cannot tell the difference of chassis, torque at low rpm (that could be amplified by the Cargraphic switch in my case), power delivery, sound (yes! even without Cargraphic switch), steering wheel, gearbox, driving feel, in short: everything, then I am sorry but you are probably not very familiar with cars. I recommend you spend more driving time ;-)

@@kamakura5036 :) Man, don’t embarrass yourself please. The only few differences between gt and gts are suspension (including wheels and brakes), aero, shorter shifter, higher redline and some cosmetics in the interior. Its all in your head ;)

@@sj2345 Sure. At least you saved money not buying a GT product that you don’t understand.

Merry Christmas, Timo :-)

Hi Random, Autoshield made it for me bu it is easy, cut it yourself. Try at least, not very costly if you fail, right...

Lol 😂 Christmas motif best this month. It’s the main thought with my channel, to make sure there is nothing right or wrong when it comes to Porsche just different opinions. If you are not already please consider subscribing.

Thank you Dude, yes my opinion is not the populistic/selling/politically correct one you will find in above mention car reviewer. GTS models are increasing in popularity in Europe as you experience in Canada, it is as you write a value-added option pack. I did not talk about buying the car because it would not suit my review. It is not a perfect marriage as I made clear. I think the 2.5-liter engine suits the Boxster much better and a price discussion would just make the 4.0 even less attractive for me. A high revving engine is more to control for the chassis. You feel that when you drive the 4.0, with the 2.5-liter engine you give the chassis time to aline. As I've always said, there is a Porsche for everybody and I try to present my thought based on my pros and cons, this religion does not suit everybody. Finally, I would like to thank you for contributing to our community, we do not have to share the same opinion but I believe we would have an interesting conversation and learn from each other.

Thanks, Derek, it's my honest opinion...

@@JankoLind I tested a car earlier in the month and thought it was over powered. Looking forward to more reviews in 2021! D

In this case I can not agree, the tubo lag is close to non. I belive I've talked a bit about this in some videos and for me the PDK lag is more important to discuss. Any way, thanks for watching and the comment.

​@@JankoLind Thanks for your comments. Sounds like we are essentially in agreement regarding the 2.5L version exhibiting some turbo lag (not zero but "close to non"). Curious as to what you meant by PDK lag? After having owned several Porsches, manuals and PDKs, the later shifts in 0.05 seconds (50 milliseconds) which is quite a bit faster than a human can manage. Maybe you are referring to response time from varying throttle input (instead of using paddles) to the PDK executing a shift?

@@danielpfister6774 something like that can not remember which video I talked about it but I think 🤔 the one comparing manual VS PDK with the 992

Thanks for the reference to your "992 PDK versus Manual " video. I pulled up and viewed the video which does discuss this idea of "PDK lag". However, we can probably agree this is actually more a mental perception than physical characteristic of Porsche cars. On the one hand, I would agree that a manual gearbox offers very direct driver engagement. Although, I have found my PDK equiped Porsches also offer similar control of the gearbox by simply selecting manual mode and then shifting up/down as desired. The only real difference between gearboxes is whether a foot pedal or ECU interacts with a clutch plate. Typically, as you mention, a PDK provides quicker acceleration and higher torque (both of which are useful in track day situations). Anyway, always fun to compare notes and experiences related to these awesome machines!

Happy that we are alined. Take care :-)

Hi , As I've said many times, there is a Porsche for everybody. In this case, we do not share the same opinion and as you know I've driven the 718 4 cyl a lot. I know that I'm quite alone liking the sound. From where I'm standing, perhaps a Base 992 would have been the best selection for you, but then again you will missout on the mid-engine characteristics. Perhaps, regardless of our deviation opinion, you have honored me with your subscription.

@@JankoLind Yes subscribed, I do enjoy your videos and yes we are lucky that Porsche makes so many variants to suit different types of enthusiasts. As I mentioned in another response, I have never been a 911 fan, to me it feels like a cruiser compared to the Boxster (which is considered by many to be the only true sports car in the lineup, an opinion that I share).

@@JankoLind well said Janko

Thanks for watching Gord.

the four-pot suits the chassis much better. Ferry is turning in his grave looking at the 4.0 GTS.

Congratulations on your car... Bordeaux is available on the Spyder. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.

@@JankoLind yes true, but the Spyder limits how much leather you can have....and I am based in Dubai, so I don't think the single skin roof can deal with the summer sun/heat - kind of opposite of the challenge you have in Sverige with the cold winters. I have subscribed - I promise! I will go for manual over PDK this time around too. Great channel, keep up the great work

It's about time, BUT I complain about that the engine dose not match the chassi. Put the 2.5 liter engine back and you are good to go ore change the chassi in the 4.0.

Merry Christmas Mr MXC

Thanks, Gio for your comment and your contribution to our community. For the record, I'm a bit fed up with automated roof operations.

You change Spyder to GTS 4.0 ? ☹️🤷‍♂️ why? Spyder are so rear , impossible to get .

@@got_gt3612 too low from ground, not able to enter in my driveway ! i got the prblem with my last GT4 2016

FYI, to have my spyder allocation . i have paid and reserve 2.5 year ago , and also have purchase more then 12 porsche in the last 15 years...

As I've said many times, there is a Porsche for everybody. Out of curiosity, why did you not order a base 992? it's a blast to drive: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fd1UjTMrbcc.html Thank you all for contributing to our community. It makes me happy when I see other people answering comments. BIG thanks to you all.

@@JankoLindHi Janko, i like to have a cabriolet in my garage and want to return to manual, the base 992 is very quick, more spacious but you cannot have the manual option. If i continue to make more Track days with my son, i will go for a GT3 ( manual also , more engaging ). i agree with you, there is a Porsche for every one, every one got is plus and minus, very hard to just have one ! that is the reason a change the model basicly each year. Continue your great work. very pleasant to watch. A porsche friend from Canada

Sorry for the late answer, your comment was stoped in spam, don't know why? The chassis in the 4.0 GTS is the same as in the 2.5 GTS. GT4 and Spyder have a motorsport chassis wish will cope with a more intense engine such as the NA 4.0. If you buy a GTS 4.0, I do recommend everybody to upgrade the chassis and tires. But then again in your financial calculation, you will be better of with a GT4 Spyder or the 2.5 GTS for a more suited daily driving car. Black calipers make the car look really good but red with white is not bad at all. I try to explain that it's not about if the calipers are painted or not, its all about it needs to match the color of the car. I like red calipers on cars with the body color: White, red, black and sometimes silver.

@@JankoLind Thanks for your reply Janko, my Spyder just passed its first birthday. If i'd get a new one today, i'd be tempted to go with PDK gearbox, albeit i generally prefer manual gearbox, i assume the former has much better gearing. Especially 2nd gear is extremely tall with manual. P.s. Had a chat with mydealer the other day, he told me that their allocation for new GT3 this year (6-7 cars) is already booked. Also they will only have 2 Spyders for 2021

If I hade the time I would, the future will tell.

Hi Sam, Yes, I am one of few people that appreciated the sound of the 4 cylinders 718. That makes me more focused on the car's performance. Unfortionaltly it feels more like Porsche making money rather than the perfect mid-engine sports car. Don't get me started on the tires.

@@JankoLind Thanks for replying! I have seen your videos on the 2.0 718 Cayman T and it does seem a lot more pure......the less is more approach can work well in sports cars 👍

@@SamAustin in this case absolutely

Thanks

Thanks, 93455Driver, for contributing to our community via your comment. Yes, all 718 cars are beautiful to drive, as mentioned in my video, very balanced and it is possible to drive the car with "two fingers". Perhaps you have honored​ me with your subscription?

@@JankoLind Yep, have subscribed, amazed the subscription count is not higher, darned You Tube Algorithms. Best wishes for 2021!

@@93455Driver thanks I’ve given up the algorithms

BIG thanks for your contribution to our community José. You are right, from an emotional perspective I do not appreciate a flat-6 in a Boxster or a Cayman, for that matter. It creates the "I could not afford a 911 syndrome" instead of being a stand-alone beautiful mid-engined sportscar connecting to the Porsche History as the flat 4 equipped cars dose. I believe I made this clear in my first videos when I reviewed the 718 Cayman years ago. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-geDrlnDXmtk.html You are also right that Porsche was forced to downsize due to European emissions regulations, but from my pair of eyes, it was a jackpot. Never the less I understand that the majority of the market does not agree with my thoughts, and do not appreciate the flat 4 as I dose. This inspired me to go from talking to action when I bout the Porsche 718 Cayman T. ru-vid.com/group/PLlDDzjSsJx0St-GUrGKqqgyvEWIh4o1lF Regardless of what you think/write the 4.0 does not suit the chassis. I've driven to many Porsches and this is all about making money rather than designing the perfect mid-engine sportscar. You could of course upgrade the chassis and wheels. Something that I recommend if you purchased the 4.0 already. IMPORTANT the GTS 4.0 did not subtract the exclusivity from the Spyder, the Boxster GTS 4.0 and the Spyder are two totally different cars, and as I said in the video could not be compared. Please let me remind everybody that I know all about the 4.0 GTS long before I ordered my Spyder. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UrIeWKlO1sQ.html What I do cross my fingers and hope for is a 992 Carrera T with the 4.0 Naturally aspirated engine from the Spyder/GT4 fitted. That ladies and gentlemen could be one of the best Porsche cars ever. Remember that a 992 Carrera S manual has a Kurb weight of 1480 kg, which's 10 kg lighter than a 997 Carrera and with a chassis to handle a more stressful engine. I hope this clarifies the situation, and perhaps, you could understand the argument? I do respect and understand that we have a different opinion on this matter. We don't have to agree and I hope to meet you one day for a coffee and car talk, that would be amazing. As I've said many times, there is a Porsche for everybody. Please take care and thank you for watching my channel and contributing to our community.

I have tested many 911's. I always thought I would buy one, but I never found one I could connect with, up to and including the Turbo S (I never considered a GT3 because I wanted a convertible). I bought a Boxster because it makes the 911 seem like a boat in comparison. If anyone wants to think it's because I can't afford a 911, then they haven't driven a 718. And who cares anyway? Besides, the Boxster/Cayman was always a flat 6 before the 718, so the 4.0 connects better with the history of this model than the 4 cylinder does. Also, you are the first person who has ever claimed that the 4 cyl handles better than the GTS. This has not been my experience at all. In fact, every other reviewer besides you prefers the 4.0 to the 4 cylinder. Many are calling it the perfect sports car on the market, at any price. And a 992 Carrera T with the 4.0 NA engine will not appeal to me, as I will always go for mid-engine over rear engine.

@@JankoLind well said Janko

That's, would put shadow ower the GT3... Thanks for watching and subscribing.

@@JankoLind i think it would not be very quick..992 is pretty big with over 4000lb gross vehicle weight rating.

In comparison with the GTS 4.0, go with the 991.

@@JankoLind Ha Ha depends on how we use our vehicle for daily driving. A Cayman if no kids and besides, we can load 5 packages of beer 24 cans and 4 boxes, 3-litres, of wine easily. 911 is not for elderly people in regard to this transport requirement.

I am curious of your comments and comparison to the Boxster T with a 6-speed manual I hope :)

I believe you will be satisfied.

@@JankoLind so your conclusion is for the non-GT chasis the 2.5 or 2.0 fits better, the 4.0 makes the chassis we can say "nervous" if you downshift, hi-rev on a b-road, but the chassis feels underperforming if you keep the gear on low rpms because low torque curve compared to a turbo? if that is true then you only need to get the 4.0 in a non-GT chassis only if you care about.. the sound? what about if you drive a bit more than only b-roads? i think the real conclusion is get a 4.0 if you drive more on autobahn or open fast roads and/or tracks and or if you care about the sound and specifically in b-roads you are willing to drive with a bit more nervous chassis as a compromise because of the power delivery of the 4.0. In the end the 2.0 and 2.5 engines are more suitable for a non-GT chassis but they can feel a bit underpowered in big open tracks but the compromise is not the nervous chassis but the flat-4 sound like a Porsche 912 but with turbo noises added.

Hi Janko, Refreshing to hear you views and I agree ; for me the 4 cylinder suits the 718 better ( I could sense the extra weight of the 4L over my T!) - we’ve chatted before and you know I’m a 911 fan from owning several 911’s including 911GTS to my 991.1 GT3 but when I wanted a change to convertible the 911 felt so much less agile . And my T has seen some good track time at tighter tracks she keeps up with everything and yes at Silverstone Full GP circuit she was overpowered by friends GT4 and GT3 - but she still went past a lot of other 911’s, and you can use so much more of the cars available ability on the road .

@@robertoc.martineza.3719 Spot on if you ask me.

Hi Graham, Big thanks for your contribution to our community. I agree, condition matters. I can not compare the UK and Swedish roads true. You are right I would prefer the old GTS and perhaps, in this case, I would go for the 718 Boxster S, get a more "complete" product, and as a bonus, money on the bank. I understand that my thoughts are not in line with the general public but one thing you need to give me in comparison to other reviewers, I ONLY drive Porsche and I own my own. Big thanks for the time you spend on my channel, and perhaps you have honored me with your subscription.

​@@JankoLind Absolutely, it's your honestly held opinion and I respect that. No one car is right for everyone, we all have our preferences and priorities.

Sorry to hear that you did not like my quality this time, sorry. I know that not all people appreciate the sound of the 4-cyl displacement as I do. In regards to throttle response, we do have a different opinion. Never the less thank you for watching and your subscription.

@@JankoLind Sound of the engine is worse when starting up and cold. Sounds is it will fall apart. Red callipers for a green exterior? Black suits better. However, an additional cost of 8.600 Swedish kronor. Interesting view this 2.5-litre turbo versus 4-litre nat. asp. 6-cylinders. Your advice makes a pre-owned 2.5 a bargain purchase.

There is an option to make them black. You will be reminded each time you brake and when you drive, you don't see the color of the calipers.

Janko Lind true, I guess black just feels too un-special. I wish other colors were available

Thanks for your comment, Reinis. If you have a turbo Porsche above 2 000 rpm it is extremely difficult to feel any turbo lag. That goes for the 992 also. But wish is my favorite, NA wins my heart​ in the engine department but that's just emotions...

As I've always said, there is a Porsche for everybody. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.

Thanks a lot, Purekoryo, I like your idea to go head to head with 991.2 GTS, and the 718 2.5 GTS not easy to arrange these days.

It was given to me by Johan. It is merchandise from a company in Sweden called Still Sparkling. If you live in Sweden, you might encounter this brand if you order sparkling water at a fancy restaurant. For the record, I do like the hat.

Thanks, ternavasso, happy new year :-)

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YES, but you could easily fix it by changing the chassis. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.

@@JankoLind Doesn't the same MMB platfofm mean, that they use the same chassis for 911 and 718? Thank you again for your reply!

@@JankoLind How could you change the chassis ?!? Do you mean suspension maybe?

Everybody would like to have a fast sports car. But I don't agree with your comment. There is absolutely no problem with the gearing, you need to drive it differently, please have a look at my GT4 review for more information. Also​, my point exactly, you need to rev the car 5000 rpm + which the chassis can not handle.

@@JankoLind Yes. You do have to drive it differently which means driving miles of B roads in second and third gear. As for your statement that the chassis can't handle going over 5,000 rpm? That's ridiculous. Every commentator mentions that the gears are too long and no one says anything about the chassis apart from the fact it's among the best available from any manufacturer. I respect your opinion but you're an outlier and I disagree.

@@sanderabernathy6276 as I always say, there is a Porsche for everybody, for me the 2.5 litre displacement fits the chassis better and is a more fun to drive but the experience could be different for other drivers. Try 1st and 2nd gear on b-road you will be surprised.

As I said in the review it is still a Porsche with great drivability. Nevertheless, What happens is that when you give throttle or let go, the chassis does not compensate but instead gives you a more nervous car to handle. please have a look at time index 12:39 where I need to compensate with steering getting out of a corner hardly never happens in any other Porsche models. Perhaps harder engine mounts could be a solution. I would recommend you look into upgrade your chassis (presuming you have a 4.0 GTS). I hope this explains "nervous chassis" for you.

@@JankoLind Well I re-watched the video and could not really tell what it was you were doing. With the camera on you I could not tell if you were in a curve or not and the video did not look continuous. Between looking at the book and narrating it appeared to me that you were "driving distracted" Did you experience understeer, oversteer, going off course and had to correct? Were you in sport mode or sport +? Anyhow, I do not have a GTS 4.0 yet but will have one in March. I am really looking forward to the Porsche experience. Thanks for taking the time to do your reviews.

I just saw my wife's name. This was from Jim same as earlier

Thanks :-)

I agree, ore a driver-man, in general GT-cars suits my religion the best. But remember all Porsches are a beauty to drive...

In this case, the problem is addressed and managed. Remember the GTS 4.0 has the same chassis as the Cayman T and as all of you know I was very happy with my Öhlins upgrade. YES, that will decently address the problem that the engine does not match the chassis.

Hi Ferida, I don't recommend you to swap your 2.5 GTS to a 4.0 that's a BIG NO GO for me. Not sure how your car handles the 530 nm, perhaps you should consider a chassis upgrade... If you are not already, please subscribe to my channel.

I will do something, you do know I have a playlist from my privies 992 Carrera S? ru-vid.com/group/PLlDDzjSsJx0QOwOaNYyZBuVE6ehXSybnz

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Agree. Xmas car! :)

I got GT Silver with silver wheels and red interior, classic Would think twice about green

The Spyder is a bit difficult, it has a lot of history to carry around. On GT-cars strong color is interesting, with its base from the IROC championships strong colors was applied to distinguish the drivers. The 718 Spyder is an extremely rare item, not many cars have left the Motor Sports department without a roof. looking at Porsches open classic sports cars, they were much more restraint in color selection. At the end of the day, you need to feel for YOUR car and the question you need to ask your self wish path is more important for YOU. Select the color you like and not what others think.

Janko Lind thank you Janko I really appreciate your thinking - decision for the new year. Also wondering about shark blue if becomes available. Merry Christmas and looking forward to more content in 2021

Well, you might be right except for you last word, it should be right ;-)

Hi Janko, great test!! I own a 718 GTS 2.5 manual, stage 1 - 530nm - 415/420 hp, and I love curvy mountain roads, no circuit. If you where in my position, would you consider to change to GTS 4.0 manual? Do you think 2.5 GTS will be better valued in the future? Wish you all the best and Merry Christmas from Barcelona !!

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I have no access to any :-( If you know anyone with a manual 992 in the Stockholm area please let me know and I will test and produce it.

you should, its one of the best Boxster every made.

öhhh sorry, Vikas but I would go with a Macan before the 4.0 GTS.

@@JankoLind lol ouch..i like that you actively engage with the viewers, keep it up!

@@vikd4292 thanks Vikas

@@JankoLind off with his head

I have a GTS 4.0 Boxster. I chose PDK for daily driver use, but I also love it for backroad playtime. I was also won over on test drives of the 4cyl 718. There is still plenty of driver involvement, because the paddles are so responsive, and the car feels completely unhinged when slamming through gears on the curves.

Thank you both for contributing to our community. I would put my money towards the chassis or tires to get more out of the car rather than a PDK. If you are going to daily your car, perhaps a PDK is a preferred option?

My 987 is manual, and the 320/520 prior to that were manual too. It's just getting stuck in UK traffic and frequent traffic lights often ruin the manual experience.

Hej Per, you are absolutely right. If your ad an Öhlins Road and track chase​ to the 4.0 GTS then you have a perfectly balanced car between the chassis and the engine. Thanks for watching and perhaps you have honored me with your subscription.

@@JankoLind Självklart följer jag dig, dina insiktsfulla synpunkter hjälpte mig till beslutet att köpa en 718T Boxster, tack! Det jag saknar är dina synpunkter på mapping / chip trimning som ger helt ny karaktär till 718. Vi syns nog på något PC event efter pandemin.....

I agree, if you upgrade the chassis and wheels, its another story.

Yes, Danny, I believe this is in real life. I drove the car for 7 days then I started the production.