REVIEW - Qubic Systems QS-220-PL 3DOF Sim Racing Cockpit Full Motion

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We've been lucky enough to have the opportunity to test a bunch of different sim rig motion systems over the years, but this steps things up a few notches. With 4 inches of travel and acceleration of 800mm per second, it's capable of absolutely brutal force feedback for your entire sim rig. But it also comes with a HUGE price tag. So let's find out what that money gets you!
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TIME STAMPS:
Intro: 0:00
Important Information: 0:35
Options & Pricing: 1:20
Hardware Overview: 4:20
Installed System Tour: 17:00
Software & Setup: 22:47
Initial Driving Experience: 31:00
Conclusions: 43:07
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@pattyrafter88 Год назад

I am also keen for another 2 inches

@Picks_Productions Год назад

😂

@francomasuello Год назад

I need all the inches I can get

@Donut_Tom Год назад

Why is this the top comment 😂

@robertcarr4172 Год назад

We all are bud.... we all are.

@noelcox1726 Год назад

That's what she said.

@matthewcoleman8267 Год назад

This is like watching TopGear review the latest and greatest supercar. I could never afford it but still drool over it.

@noahone3923 5 месяцев назад

I use a SimLab P1X chassis extruded aluminum, along with Motion House Motion Gear's 4UN 4 corner motion actuator system with 6" of travel. It's basically identical to this in every way nearly and I couldn't imagine sim racing any other way ever again. Once you go motion, anything less just wont do. Static chassis racing just feels completely numb to me to the point of nausea as the motion platform I use simulates so well what your brain expects to be feeling and inside VR it's a match made in Heaven. Generally what I've found with the 6" travel is that it gives more overhead to play with before clipping occurs in the motion actuators. Basically if you utilize the full travel then it can simulate steeper angles such as going up or down a steep road and still have the extra travel needed for chassis / suspension motion like heave and surge without clipping due to hitting that hard limit on travel. This also helps with the feeling of acceleration and braking. A 1.5" travel setup would barely be able to allow you to feel going up or downhill let alone simultaneously perform heave and roll motions. I'm also not saying systems with shorter travel aren't worth it but one needs to keep their expectations in check. How will it feel going up a hill with the front raised 1.5" and the back lowered 1.5" vs a 6" travel 6" in the front up and 6" in the back down? Big difference. I got my setup from Motion House for $5k USD minus the chassis which I bought from SimLab for $750 USD I believe it was.

@chionyenkwu2253 Год назад

Great stuff as usual; spring assembly looks like good ol fashioned shock-absorber/springs from yester-years 😎😎

@Kevin_Cat 7 месяцев назад

Please also do a review of the new and more affordable QS-210 Will!

@kajrosenqvist9165 Год назад

Great review again😀 You could benefit lot on comfort, and also motion feel adjusting your rig so that you sit more forward. I think pedals, uprights and seat can be brought forward a lot. It is important to seat as close as you can get at center of rotation. Also lowering seat as much as lets you turn motion more agressive, without feeling of sitting at top of pole. Very, very important specially at vr.

@HighValueTargetRacing Год назад

Great detailed review. Still going with the D-box😊

@Rentless04 Год назад

ROFL, Best intro line in a while!

@stevehanwright481 9 месяцев назад

Nice work mate, good review

@keyser456 Год назад

Those brake squeaks though! Feels like I'm in my F-Type R, but only when I'm not trying to show the Jag dealer the problem with the brakes; then they're perfectly quiet.

@shonholland9111 Год назад

Odd that you didn't show much, if any, footage of Rally racing especially something from Dirt Rally 2. I would think Rally racing would have the biggest benefit of the extra travel distance.

@douglasingram8881 Год назад

Great video. I do wish you tried the same settings on a monitor and then in VR though.

@MaxJacuzzi Год назад

Thanks Will for that awesome review! Could you review the Simrig SR2 any time? Would be very interesting how it compares in your opinion with other motion systems while regarding the price it is a lot 'cheaper'.

@madwoodsel Год назад

I will put it on my birthday list :D

@AlexeiWatson 10 месяцев назад

26:43 would really like a deeper dive on how motion setups impact screens on a separate stand, or if they're mounted to the rig that moves, as well as in VR. Starting to plan a rig and I need to get my head around all this.

@jasonknights9640 7 месяцев назад

i have a motion rig and vr and its really good and immersive like will said less is more but it does give you that extra feedback to in corners love mine.

@seattime4075 Год назад

Excellent video! Agree that fast actuators are a must for a good car simulator. FI..I DIYed fast (1.8Kw/max500mmsec) and long travel (up to 750mm - only use a fraction of that for cars :-)) actuators and found that I needed a design that allowed the actuators to be hard mounted to the floor, as the rig will walk or smash around in a cup with that speed and rig/body inertia. All the best.

Год назад

Concrete anchors work best as such speed... 😂

@seattime4075 Год назад

@ Rigs actuators are actually dyno bolted to a garage floor 😁 - about $700 in parts for each actuator, as only the screw nut and frame attachment carriage moves.

Год назад

@@seattime4075 NUTS! 🤣

@gevgeniou 9 месяцев назад

One word kinemaniacs Thats brutal..

@mustafamusri6937 Год назад

Hey will love your vids, quick question what do you anything about the Simworx chassis and if not can you do a review thanks. Keep up the great work

@diaboles Год назад

would be interesting to see how something like this works with a flight sim if you have a hotas sitting around for something like MSFS, great vid as always

@cayenne7792 Год назад

Motion platforms for flight simulators are a lot of money, time, electricity, maintenance, hacking software, space, and noise all to end up right back where you started--- with completely unrealistic forces and movements.

@endfm 8 месяцев назад

@@cayenne7792 lol

@Space-O-2001 Год назад

Great video, it would be interesting to how your perception changes with it in VR

@sergej_mutlich3244 Год назад

Yes I'd also like to hear your thoughts with VR

@vannibombonato4180 Год назад

I have it and only race in Vr, it’s fantastic

@ghostdragon9221 Год назад

Saucy Intro!

@yurimiloslavsky 6 месяцев назад

Great content as usual. Do you plan to review DOF reality P3 or P6?

@GMCRaptor Год назад

Like your style of vid reviews Will, but the ambience is way too dark. Your previous white background stage presentation was much better. Sometimes I struggle to see what you are actually showing as the background is dark and lighting is medium. Just some feedback. FYI this system was on my shopping list for later this year so thanks for reviewing.

@taxi615 Год назад

Coming in clutch this week first the Leoxz wheel I was looking at getting and now this Cubic system I'm looking to get

@ChrisMidmark 6 месяцев назад

Thank you! Will you try the QS-CH2 Qubic Platform this year?

@revhard_sim Год назад

sick content

@MondoRockable Год назад

Off this topic, but can you do a shootout/comparison of the hi-end pedals you've reviewed? Asetek, Heusinkveld, Simucube, VRS, etc? Their features all seem to blur into one, and it would be good to understand any preferred pedal set, particular after your long term use. Thanks!

@Mark_Blanes 15 дней назад

Great Review Will, nice system but I just wish that for those of us who are not iRacing users you could do your review incorporating other popular sims like Automobilista 2 and Assetto Corsa and even something different like Dirt Rally 2 and/or EA WRC. Just to give some more perspective on the motion operation apart from just iRacing.

@regibson23 7 месяцев назад

For such a high end system they sure half assed a lot of the details.

@devonangle4852 Год назад

What about a dedicated 10 min video on rally racing with this thing. That would be 💰💰

@Rene_Bo Год назад

Like with the active pedals, this is not for the average (me) sim racer. The pricetag is crazy 😂 Loved the review tho

@Sithhy 10 месяцев назад

I don't think anything with a pricetag past 400-500€ is for the average simracer

@nejcmirtic529 Год назад

Awesome review as always, now we need to see the review of the RS Mega + (150mm /6" of travel and considerably slower than the Qubic at 250mm/s) for comparison to see how much does the movement sepeed "interfere" with the feedback when having greater movement posibilities. At considerably lower price point compared to the DBOX and Quibic.

@charlesgutscher6249 Год назад

loud actuators, a lot of wires, the servos are noisy, and i fell like they felt robotic in motion. Find a used d box gen 1 system.

@ajcarterfilms Год назад

I’m waiting for this review also.

@oscaraus1538 Год назад

I've got the mega+. It's not loud, it's fast enough to feel engine haptics and road noise, the robotic feeling is just a matter of tuning, the wires are much the same no matter what brand you get, at 1/4 the cost of dbox it's prob best value on market.

@junitoortega8656 6 месяцев назад

I agree, at 2600$ USD, the RS Mega is the cheapest of the 4 pole style motion systems. Plus is 150mm of travel is a lot. I'm thinking of getting one but I'm hesitating when it comes to reliability

@junitoortega8656 6 месяцев назад

@@oscaraus1538 how do you find it? is it reliable and responsive? I'm about to pull the trigger on one of those.

@RacingUnleashed Год назад

not too shabby ;) you should try ours too!

@Sile Год назад

What *does* an extra 2 inches feel like, huh? XD

@boostedmedia Год назад

Giddyup!

@elmalloc Год назад

what if it start at only 0.5 in first place? :(

@charlesgutscher6249 Год назад

Im using a D-Box gen 1 right now and i love it but, there are times where i feel a little more range and response would help. But i just dont trust systems like pt actuators, didnt care for the mega RS kit i played with. I thought about the sigma integrale but the game base just doesnt seem there. These have had my interest for a while but not a lot of reviews, especially comparing to d box. Seems like its a descent upgrade, but it will wait for a while. But ill probably sell the d box at some point and try these. Good review

@Danny-fc2je 2 месяца назад

Did you ever upgrade?

@howien4366 Год назад

The T nuts with the springs are called Zebedees in the trade mate. Great review as ever Will. Keep up the great work! 👍

@shrimp1948 День назад

Guess I gotta start saving. Meaby in 2 years I can afford it without thinking that that kind of money is absurd to spend on a rig

@hayeduce Год назад

those etnies shoes 🔥

@Trigenetic 7 месяцев назад

Got 8 inches on my SFX. You can get a great feel on tracks like Nords but i wouldnt use it 24/7 as its pretty hard on your body (acid reflux) . Great for flight sims though

@normanrobinson1932 Год назад

Since I really do a large amount of my SIM Racing and Flight SIMing in VR.., 🤔 some information around the *"Motion Compensation"* features is appreciated..!!! 👍💯😉 Thx

@user-uw7wu8uu4i 8 месяцев назад

Hey Boosted, great review, looking into getting this motion system for my NLR elite, Did you know your moza discount code is not working, im trying to buy some gear but it says it does not exist. Can you please help

@serovu1671 Год назад

Please make a video about the settings with vr. motion compensation, etc.

@paulbuswell6566 Год назад

The response time and magnitude is impressive. I race exclusively in vr and would love one...But that price..ouch

@Im_A_Banana Год назад

tbh with VR It's not that great because it bounces the headset around on your head, I use it with triples and enjoy it. My headset is a pretty snug fit too. You'd have to do a lot of smoothing/turn it down to make it usable with VR

@Anonnymouse53 11 месяцев назад

@@Im_A_Banana There are motion compensation software tools to deal with that. Though I imagine that you could just disable X/Y/Z axis and only have rotation but that might actually make it feel worse.

@Im_A_Banana 11 месяцев назад

@@Anonnymouse53 the motion compensation is not the same as the physical headset moving on your face from the rig movement. That's just to keep you centered in the car

@Anonnymouse53 11 месяцев назад

@@Im_A_Banana I misunderstood you. I don't find it's much of a problem but I had 3d printed a narrower profile faceplate for my headset and it's quite tight.

@funplaymix7710 10 месяцев назад

@@Im_A_Bananahmm going point I didn’t even think of that

@SiCaRiI_DaGgEr Год назад

For the price of a new car I I can't justify paying that price then have to buy mount brackets that will possibly have manufacturing cosmetic defects. Great video as always but it looks like ERacing Lab RS Mega+ will be the route I take.

@TUGRA14 Год назад

are they easy to install? What do you think about them? thank you

@SiCaRiI_DaGgEr Год назад

@@TUGRA14 I don't have them yet, however the install is pretty straight forward and all the reviews for them are really good which is why I'm going that route. There are a number of videos on the RS that you can view to see if it's the system for you but I think you will be very happy with what you find.

@jamesmoore7858 10 месяцев назад

Hey i know this isn't related but have you reviewed symdeck? I'm looking to maybe get the s3 and the Trumotion console control box but can't seem to find much information about it.

@revhard_sim Год назад

Similar system in my country + frame cost 310 thousand RAND - yes 310 000rand. for this price it is really a Gt86 2nd hand

@kemosabe8313 Год назад

Awesome system. Just dont think ill ever spend money like that on sim.

@gregorygene9003 Год назад

I just ordered 2, for number coding scheme here in our country.

@RobertoOrtis Год назад

So, what should I buy between this and the dbox? I want the best of the best for road racing.

@AdamsOlympia 8 месяцев назад

Does Spintires work with motion sims? That'd be an excellent game to demo such a high travel range.

@geoffholden4655 Год назад

Got mine 6months ago from digital motorsports for approximately $7000 cdn dollars with free mounting brackets.

@michaelkopec.5814 9 месяцев назад

thats good deal you got there. cant find it anymore on their website

@Gorgula Год назад

Very interested in a VR compensation video. One of the things stopping me from motion.

@Ghleyy Год назад

I have this system and the VR compensation is excellent.

@alexfranzen4294 Год назад

I have the e-racing labs system that uses SRS with motion compensation for vr. Once you get it dialed in it’s pretty amazing. Less than half the price of this setup as well

@Ghleyy Год назад

@@alexfranzen4294 Not much to dial in with the Qubic system, it just works perfect with a 20 seconds calibration run. Also isn't the SRS VR compensation behind a paywall? Qubic is built into the software and once it's installed, you don't ever have to get any kind of permission.

@fflores398 Год назад

Curious how would it be at Daytona Super-speedway with 31 degrees banking.

@rexile1986 9 месяцев назад

What is that noise when you step on the brake? is it from the game or the motion platform?

@Mkm0ka Год назад

did you ever tried a diy solution like the sfx-100 or similar? how do they compare to those expensive "market ready" stuff?

@sergej_mutlich3244 Год назад

Yes thats something which interests me too. Sfx100 is pretty fast with 250mm/s too. But how about acceleration to that speed?

@michaelhuyer1479 6 месяцев назад

How good is the traction loss effect with this system?Is it better than with the traction plus from Next Level?

@HButKa 10 месяцев назад

Does anyone know if the Qubic System QS-CH2 can simulate Yaw for both axis or only the Rear axis? Would be an nice addition to this Rig!

@user-jt8xw6fd1v Месяц назад

Can it convey the feel of traction loss at all, or do you loose that when going from 6dof to 3dof?

@thieu974 Год назад

So you are using le VRS Direct Force Pro on this test rig ? :p

@devrox 11 месяцев назад

you should test the "elab racing rs mega+" with the SRS software

@JRS902 Год назад

sucks to see the powder coat coming off at that price point per bracket, they must not do it in house.

@LeedsRacing Год назад

Great video again 😊 Can ask where you got the wheel mount/plate from? I think it’s not the original TR One Trak Racer one. I’ve also own the TR120 and I find that the wheel Plate/mount is way to big/bulky for my VRS. I already thought about finding someone who can shorten and weld it for me. Thank you.

@boostedmedia Год назад

Pretty sure it was one of the optional ones from Trak Racer.

@LeedsRacing Год назад

Thank you for your reply. But I think that looks way different than the one on their page. Couldn’t find any similar mount on their page. I already ask for a different version weeks ago but got no answer from trak racer.

@jesusg853 Год назад

When are we getting the gt7 with psvr2 review?

@Tronnic 3 месяца назад

I would love to find out what extra 2 inches feel like

@wandrinsheep Год назад

could make a 4 or more dof kit with that sfx100 for that amount of money

@DJOZMET Год назад

Lucky you

@williebosman8056 Год назад

LOL, what an extra 2" feel like? Where have I heard that before?

@user-gb2zf6kp7x Год назад

Good point on the sound and fitting environments. Since I'm in an appartment I think my wallet is safe. On that note, what kind of floor is that you have there? It looks very sturdy but still absorbing. What do you call a floor like that?

@boostedmedia Год назад

It’s composite rubber/plastic tiles on a cement slab.

@salim_dustysam1956 Год назад

Awesome, I have been shopping for a motion sim but in no rush as I want something that will last and I have kept up with your reviews to help come to a decision hopefully soon. But, tell us Will, is this replacing the dbox on your main rig? And have you considered reviewing vesaro motion systems and racing sim hardware?

@boostedmedia Год назад

Not sure if it’ll replace the Dbox yet. I have to run the motion low for recording FPV videos anyway and the Dbox is very practical for that purpose.

@biz0r07 Год назад

Vesaro is just reselling DBox so if he got one of those rigs it would end up being a review of the rig itself, not the motion system

@salim_dustysam1956 Год назад

@@biz0r07 hey yeh you are right they do use dbox but I recently noticed they have there own actuators. Or maybe they are dbox with vesaro branding on it?!

@biz0r07 Год назад

@Salim_Dusty Sam I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's still dbox

@salim_dustysam1956 Год назад

Hey Will, enjoying all your content. I just want to ask if you have been using the Qubic system since this review and if it replaced your DBox? I am in the real process of possibly ordering as to why I am asking again. Also were you ever considering doing a review on there CH2 model which is the traction loss system?

@MalcomMcLeod Год назад

How close can you get the monitor?🤔

@Raceeverything 10 месяцев назад

Is this better than the Dbox system ?

@shervinaryan2631 9 месяцев назад

I really hope I get a response for this question but from every motion systems you've used so far, what would be the most comparable to DBox/the best alternative to Dbox? Something that is much more cost efficent and reliable? Appreciate your time!

@SethParr 8 месяцев назад

I'd like to know this too.

@arthurh.6035 7 месяцев назад

me too :)

@Geno5 Год назад

The extra two inches will be ok. Just try it out for a few minutes.

@MADWOLF_GR Год назад

Hey your floor from what is made?

@janithperera1936 Год назад

That's what she said

@vonbarrel5023 Год назад

Hey Boosted!🖐 It is possible that You make a test, compare and review of sim SEATS? Would be awesome to see different types of seats (with flat and deep back, with short and long base, which is the most supportive, for big and thin guy etc.) and to know which is the real deal for sim racing and not for massive price 😇😊 Thank You for Your answer 🤝❤

@boostedmedia Год назад

Unlikely. They’re too expensive to ship to us in Australia so it’s rare the rigs we review are sent with seats.

@vonbarrel5023 Год назад

@@boostedmedia 🆗 Tully understanadble😊 Could You share Your Experience and tell which seat are You using or which You can reccomend?

@sheep7255 Год назад

This be cool, but I've got no space for it currently that I can sacrifice for it

@DarkDrift.Rx8 Год назад

"let's go see what a few more inches feels like" that's what she said! xD

@Wildavismedia 4 месяца назад

Can I purchase the control box and motors only? If so what’s the cost?

@merik1991 Год назад

0:32 that’s what she said

@obscurazone 6 месяцев назад

So, if this is a €10k product in and of itself, how much is that entire rig going to cost approximately that is being used? (Minus the computer and monitor).

@VirtualVelo 7 месяцев назад

Is it possible to use two of the next level racing motion v3? like one in the back and one in the front?

@boostedmedia 7 месяцев назад

Yea but it would be as expensive as a D-Box or some of the other full motion systems available which are much better.

@wolfe1970 Год назад

Think of the gaming rig you could by for 9k... Not sure how they can justify that price for whats really just 4 pistons and some circuitry

@normanparthiban4383 9 месяцев назад

I like the content. I am subscribed. I get you are from down unda but bro you gotta new shoes.

@areeves7535 Год назад

2 inches is a huge difference, well that’s what she said any way…

@Rmagid Год назад

Use this with the super trucks in automobilista 1 😂

@Deceter Год назад

What's 2" in metric?

@daydr3amscr3am42 10 месяцев назад

What monitor stand are you using in this video? It looks seriously overbuilt.

@boostedmedia 10 месяцев назад

It’s just a pressed aluminium stand like you’d find in a school.

@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 8 месяцев назад

How about viewing a RS mega? Something that is affordable 😉🤔 Just throwing it out there for practicality🤓

@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 8 месяцев назад

That would be nice to see Will review 👍

@D0nk3yzz Год назад

Great stuff, but at these prices not really affordable for the average sim racer.

@Gr00t Год назад

Really cool but just waaaay to expensive

@lightningsmith_ Месяц назад

Awesome review. I was wondering if you ever get the opportunity, could you review the QUBIC SYSTEM - QS-210-PL 3-DOF 4 Axis Motion system. It's 2500 euros cheaper than the 220 model at 7000 euros, which makes it a lot cheaper than the d-box motion which (is 8750 euros) has just under 40mm of while the qubic 210 still has 60mm of travel. I think that would be very interesting. By the way all the prices I mentioned are with tax.

@boostedmedia Месяц назад

We have one here. Will be on to it soon.

@lightningsmith_ Месяц назад

@@boostedmedia Awesome, can't wait till the review is out.

@derekd4349 Год назад

There has to be a cheaper way to make these! Perhaps when the market gets more competition? Sweet stuff minus the price.

@epsomjames8806 Год назад

Search for the SFX-100 project. It's been around for a few years now.

@lacedchemist1295 Год назад

There is the yaw vr 2, way different design but also cheaper. It's still not shipping yet though, I kick-started it like 2 and a half years ago and still haven't gotten it 😂