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Review: Upgraded "X" Controller for Sur Ron 

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Matt tests out the new Sur Ron upgraded "X" controller, giving us his impressions and figuring out some of the new features. Stay tuned, these will go on sale from Luna Cycle very soon in limited quantities!

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@mrbarbarycoast8572
@mrbarbarycoast8572 6 лет назад
Great work being done over there at Luna Cycles. Thanks. Can't wait to see all of the upgrades that you all can come up with for the Sur Ron.
@mrbarbarycoast8572
@mrbarbarycoast8572 6 лет назад
Fantastic review overall Matt. Thanks a lot.
@JustinBleeder
@JustinBleeder Год назад
Really enjoy your reviews due to presentation and simplicity.
@Xnocturnus
@Xnocturnus 5 лет назад
Great review -- informative and straight to the point!
@mxs8102
@mxs8102 6 лет назад
Thanks for the informative video. I hope you guys can make soon a video of the bike in true offroad trail riding environment.... To asses real world range and see whether the bike can potentially really replace a dirt bike... For many, there's no chance to have both....
@lightning_dynamics
@lightning_dynamics 5 лет назад
I absolutely can confirm your insights, everyone of my friends have driven both setups and anyone would go with the X-controller. Its soo smooth when you go very slow to ride with a buddy with a rent e-scooter side by side, was pretty bad with the stock controller. Also regenbraking is a big thing.
@03birdmann
@03birdmann 3 года назад
Excellent video!
@dog2k9
@dog2k9 6 лет назад
Can you make video about “How to adjust belt tension” and what that metal part associated with setting tension is all about. Thx
@hehe5147
@hehe5147 6 лет назад
Right on guys! Still loving my Luna Banana after around 1000 miles! However i'm looking for some knobbies that will work for it, any info?
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 6 лет назад
Basically now it is the way it should have been from the start.
@thestreetrat3660
@thestreetrat3660 4 года назад
@0 0 Its not junk, but it's still slow as fuck. Can't anyone make an honest video about them? Everyone talks about doing wheelies, but nobody shows it because you're more likely to rip the bars off than get the front wheel off the ground on a 48T stock bike ( even with the X controller). Don't get me wrong, it's a good bike, it's well made, it's well balanced and it looks good and because it's so quiet (compared to a motorbike) the possibilities are almost endless for where you can ride it, but ep or sport, it doesn't matter, its absolutely gutless and it's ridiculously slow. The headset and brake pads are shit too, but not as shit as the top speed. Another video the guy says..."Oh it breaks traction!" - No. It doesn't. It fucking doesn't. Anyone that says their performance is anything but disappointing is either delusional or they're a liar.
@grillosius
@grillosius 4 года назад
@@thestreetrat3660 sorry dude, but thats just not correct!!! i dont know about the bike you´ve ridden, but if you cut the cable and remove the speed limit you can go around 45mp/h which is more than enough for a small dirtbike! and wheelies are so not a problem...even without pulling the bar...i guess you´ve just ridden a surron with the speedlimit on...oh and i weigh around 200lbs
@NietJeffrey
@NietJeffrey 4 года назад
@@thestreetrat3660 did you take the speed limiter off? Im really thinking about buying this bike but your comment makes me double think. Ia jt really as bas as you say, because on every video i see some pretty decent acceleration.
@NietJeffrey
@NietJeffrey 4 года назад
Well, now that I test drove one i can completely agree. Its slow as fuck. Even when they cut the cable for the speed restrictor it's still not impressive. You can compare it with a fast moped but it doesn't even come close to a small dirtbike. Maybe a 80cc tops.
@xrpnick6828
@xrpnick6828 4 года назад
Jeff really slow AF ? How are so many peoples videos showing them going fast and wheelies without upgrades ?
@marshmallow51343
@marshmallow51343 5 лет назад
Is the x Controller now in all New Bikes available ?
@mitchdavis4978
@mitchdavis4978 5 лет назад
Thanks for you great videos .. Being new to ebikes and bikes in general I'm a bit confused .. Is the new Sur-Ron X built with the new X controller as stock to the bike along with all its attributes? Is the SUR-RON Super Moto Conversion Kit worth it considering I will be mostly on-road and I don't see the option to buy the Sur-Ron X in that awesome green and wonder if that's available .. Thanks for your time .. Mitch
@armin0815
@armin0815 6 лет назад
How's control of the bike when on full regen breaking going over a slippery patch - just like with a regular brake?
@dirtforce0897
@dirtforce0897 5 лет назад
would say you get more range out of this controller? if so, could you put a # on it? I'm really on the fence
@regnardin
@regnardin 4 года назад
Hello to you, silly question. I currently have a homologated sur-ron without the x controller and I am below its autonomy. The installation of this controller allows us to gain how much autonomy? By staying on a stock battery, is it better to use the x controller or take an asi bac 4000? Cordially
@johnnyulate8218
@johnnyulate8218 4 года назад
I'm deciding between those two colors! Please since you have both, tell me.. which do you prefer?
@jessenurse9194
@jessenurse9194 6 лет назад
How much posted to Australia for the x controller?
@bowlingbeginners6099
@bowlingbeginners6099 6 лет назад
Happy wheeling with Regen brake ^^
@cassdaghost
@cassdaghost 4 года назад
how do you tune these? is it the controller you have to plug in or can you connect to your phone
@ainsleyngunjoh7821
@ainsleyngunjoh7821 5 лет назад
When is the x controller coming out? or is it already out please!
@Tenacitae
@Tenacitae 6 лет назад
Where do you buy this X Controller?
@stevebills22
@stevebills22 6 лет назад
we can ride them in the UK with pedals as a ebike as long as we do 15 to 20 mph and off road we can max out
@maximusmiles8435
@maximusmiles8435 4 года назад
You should do a video on the upgraded battery
@cimplemoritz4057
@cimplemoritz4057 4 года назад
Thanks for your video. I bought a 2020 street legal lightbee and we did a acceleration comparison with the X Version (x controller vs standard controller). To be honest, there was no difference. Is it possible that Sur Ron has modified the standard controller so there is no advantage of switching to the x controller in terms of acceleration and top speed. The only difference might be the regeneration function? Would appreciate your feedback as being the expert. Thanks in advance
@boarderlinesk8media433
@boarderlinesk8media433 5 лет назад
This bike has a peddle option, can you peddle this bike back to power with the regeneration break?
@sumsum7747
@sumsum7747 3 года назад
Will the 48v battery work with this controller? I gave the segway x160 and it has the 48v and was wanting to buy this controller
@GSPICE22
@GSPICE22 5 лет назад
Love your videos very helpful in me deciding if I want to buy one or not , quick question , the bike in your video did u just wrap some of the parts on your bike with carbon or are they actual carbon parts
@Thrillowatt
@Thrillowatt 5 лет назад
Wrapped
@mauritzploeg1087
@mauritzploeg1087 4 года назад
What do you use the bike for...?
@25damazing
@25damazing 6 лет назад
Sweeet! Now just make the pedal feature useful with some actual pedal gears to match throttle speed and I’m in!
@johnnyzee383
@johnnyzee383 3 года назад
@5:31 you mentioned that going downhill you went from 64.9 to 65.1 when you got to the bottom of the hill. I submit that almost all of that small voltage increase would be a "surface charge", and as soon as you put the bike under load for more than 2 seconds, the resting voltage would be at 64.9. Im still waiting for my Sur-ron but I have had many bikes with regen and because the bike is so light and slows down so quickly its just not worth NOT using Kinetic energy in coasting. In my experience with all the bikes ive had within the full charge of the battery ive never been able to get much more than 2 % extra charge using regen. Better off just having the bike coast and using inertia to keep you moving.
@aldobmusic
@aldobmusic 5 лет назад
Thanks.
@saskwotch19764
@saskwotch19764 4 года назад
As soon as these things have at least 14kw I’ll be buying one.
@weetrcek4133
@weetrcek4133 Год назад
Please, I have a problem, after upgrade to X controller, the top speed on eco and sport mode is just 30mph. Where can be the problem?
@MrHqyang
@MrHqyang 5 лет назад
I would like to know tire option of the stock rims, does it accept 27.5/27.5+ MTB tires?
@lewisgrimshaw7192
@lewisgrimshaw7192 3 года назад
No it’s 19 inch wheels
@paulodelapenna
@paulodelapenna 6 лет назад
Whats the power?
@NoProDad
@NoProDad 4 года назад
Is the x Controller now standard?
@lumpeegrendel1636
@lumpeegrendel1636 5 лет назад
Yeah, I've got one of these bikes, nice. What I want to know, is what is that blue toggle switch on the top of the battery for? I don't even know what it does, but I want one!
@jasons9439
@jasons9439 4 года назад
It is a phone USB charger. Or a street legal mode switch
@maddjoker28
@maddjoker28 6 лет назад
Can I use this in NYC??
@telocity
@telocity 6 лет назад
Well, regen is nice when you need it, but for me, I like to coast on flat slight/downhill which stretches out your battery.
@bluesti3
@bluesti3 6 лет назад
telocity That’s why it’s nice to turn on and off when you want!
@sandygill0540
@sandygill0540 6 лет назад
Can you remove the battery from the bike for charging indoors? Or is it built in and non-removable? Also, thank you for taking the time to make this video! You pretty much sold me on it.
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 лет назад
It comes out in about 20 seconds! Designed to be super easy to remove.
@hesibub3923
@hesibub3923 Год назад
is that controller compatible with a 72v battery
@WillieWeed
@WillieWeed 6 лет назад
Will the new X Controllers become standard when I buy a Sur-ron?
@Emtbwebb
@Emtbwebb 5 лет назад
Yes all the new models come with upside down forks aswell now in the UK
@russellshaw9868
@russellshaw9868 6 лет назад
Is the x controller the same as the new sine wave controller fitted to the new batch of sur ron bikes.
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 лет назад
This will only be fitted to the "X" version Sur Rons, and those will NOT be available in the US market. We are offering upgrades that are more beneficial and FAR more cost effective, compared to the "X" build.
@andrewhowell6584
@andrewhowell6584 5 лет назад
For someone who rides a yz 250 o don't care about smooth power , if anything I'd think I'd prefer a more jumpy feel
@Enforcer_WJDE
@Enforcer_WJDE 4 года назад
So you get 10% top speed ungoverned but still drives the normal speed when you have it road legal?
@stevebills22
@stevebills22 6 лет назад
is this as good as a steath bomber or a cheaper version?
@bluesti3
@bluesti3 6 лет назад
Depends on what you're after. It's DEFINITELY way cheaper, and actually outperforms them on throttle-only. However, the stealth bomber is probably still viewed as more of a "bicycle" than this... so you can get away with more on the bike trails.
@AridersLifeYT
@AridersLifeYT 6 лет назад
i own a stealth bomber and i want a sur ron purely for the mid mount motor and wheelies.The bomber is great but when the battery dies its a 50kg mtb thats a major hassle to ride under pedal power
@ricgruber9185
@ricgruber9185 6 лет назад
Do these bikes come with options for pedals
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 лет назад
Ric Gruber yes they do!
@Tenacitae
@Tenacitae 6 лет назад
Luna Cycles I’m still waiting for the pedals to be available. Any updates?
@RibicicDeni
@RibicicDeni 6 лет назад
I am interested also for the pedal option, since I would want to use it in the city "legally". I've been following up on sur-ron for some time for now and my question is as follows: Is the pedal option only a cosmetic appendix or is it really useful like it is in the pedal assisted bicycles for instance?
@lomaxzoltor
@lomaxzoltor 5 лет назад
@@RibicicDeni I have installed the pedals and will say they are more cosmetic due to the gear ratio and once you get above about 20mph/32kph your legs would need to move too fast. One bonus though is that if you do happen to run out of battery, they're much better than pushing the bike and you can easily do 8-9mph/15kph on level ground. I got them solely to make the bike appear 'legal' :D
@TimoOnline
@TimoOnline 6 лет назад
Can i go uphill for long time without overheating?
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 лет назад
Timo absolutely!
@knivessharp5041
@knivessharp5041 6 лет назад
What is the difference between the stock bike, and the modded bike? I’m assuming you guys to the upgrade? I’m just curious about what you guys do to it for the mod.
@bluesti3
@bluesti3 6 лет назад
KNIVES SHARP just the motor controller was changed out.
@lddsports7301
@lddsports7301 6 лет назад
bluesti3 when does this become available for all?
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 лет назад
TEET ENTERPRISES Soon, but in limited quantity initially!
@theraffleguyinfo3919
@theraffleguyinfo3919 6 лет назад
Hello, We would like to know if there is any distributors for the sur-ron in Canada, If not how do i get in contact with sur-ron.
@lddsports7301
@lddsports7301 6 лет назад
Try Luna Cycle. That’s where we get them in states..
@rdunit8348
@rdunit8348 6 лет назад
TEET ENTERPRISES , thank you for your reply. I was wondering if there was a supplier of sur-ron in Canada so it's more readily available in Canada without having to pay duties tariffs. If anybody can help me with this information or how to get in contact with sur-ron it would be very much appreciate it
@sebzbox
@sebzbox 6 лет назад
Luna Cycle is the official and exclusive Sur-Ron dealer in Canada.
@stereolababy
@stereolababy 6 лет назад
i got mine a few weeks ago and really wish it had front and rear fenders when in sand. if anyone has mods for this please let me know
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 лет назад
wastegate Check the Sur Ron owners Group on Facebook... I know some owners have fenders.
@ryanhenry3160
@ryanhenry3160 6 лет назад
www.amazon.com/Grand-Adjust-Dirtboard-Bicycle-Fender/dp/B00307OOLG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1533935744&sr=8-2&keywords=sks+grand
@joedirt8625
@joedirt8625 6 лет назад
ToPeak front fender. Rear, who knows.
@stereolababy
@stereolababy 6 лет назад
ryan yeah i bought that for my mountain bike last year and it won't work
@stereolababy
@stereolababy 6 лет назад
joe i found that 2 days ago and am going to try it thx
@sorxiong310
@sorxiong310 6 лет назад
So how much per 1?
@Thrillowatt
@Thrillowatt 5 лет назад
@Yamaha R1 why are you selling
@reinaldooliveira634
@reinaldooliveira634 5 лет назад
Como é que eu faço para comprar uma
@nandunandu1809
@nandunandu1809 5 лет назад
I want cycle bike electrical how much cost
@masterstreetmagic
@masterstreetmagic 5 лет назад
I love it........its just so........much........MONEY
@coldasspiece
@coldasspiece 4 года назад
How tall are you
@simplyrise5217
@simplyrise5217 5 лет назад
3:35 few pounds heavier😂😂😂he has to be your best friend.
@SolarizeYourLife
@SolarizeYourLife 6 лет назад
Need a license in your area?
@Ruuku1
@Ruuku1 5 лет назад
still very loud with the x, yeah it's better but competition have completely silent bikes
@crashtestdummie67
@crashtestdummie67 5 лет назад
MORE POWER PLEASE:)
@esam98king42
@esam98king42 4 года назад
كيف أستطيع الحصول على واحد
@mackattack8627
@mackattack8627 4 года назад
This the next best thing to the Alta but lighter beautiful bikes supermoto mags will kill it on them
@nandunandu1809
@nandunandu1809 5 лет назад
how much how much cost Indian dollars to rupees
@pepeforido2184
@pepeforido2184 6 лет назад
Qe sale la berde y qe precio tiene
@kailastawari3511
@kailastawari3511 5 лет назад
What is prise please available india
@TheCameltotem
@TheCameltotem 2 года назад
Man I don't like that you need all these upgrades, cant they just yank up the price with 1-2k and have a upgraded version
@speviefw4471
@speviefw4471 6 лет назад
Biek like gazelle and sweet like imagiention natural
6 лет назад
Wow, why are the throttle curves like that? Inversely expo, that's for insane experts in RC, most prefer expo that moderstes inputs at low values!
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 лет назад
For sure, it's a little jumpy to first timers initially, but you soon get used to it and it's not that bad. The new controller is a significant improvement in predictability and smooth response, worth it for that alone to many! We have a customer who has a fused wrist from an injury, and the new controller is easier for him to ride and control now.
@antoniobuark4515
@antoniobuark4515 5 лет назад
*Unfortunately you do not send me to Brazil, sorry. How I want to buy Sur Ron X bike for me.* 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@antoniobuark4515
@antoniobuark4515 5 лет назад
@Yamaha R1 _and how would the form of payments and transportation be? do you have Whatsapp!_
@user-vd6wu7gf1f
@user-vd6wu7gf1f 5 лет назад
굿 나도 타고싶다요
@frankstocker5475
@frankstocker5475 4 года назад
I would put the money into a belt drive first, much quieter.
@user-us3iu4lt3g
@user-us3iu4lt3g 4 года назад
шины то не для асфальта
@sigmaoctantis_nz
@sigmaoctantis_nz 3 года назад
The Sur Ron sounds awful imo. My mid drive BBSHD is far quieter and sounds like a space ship despite also having a chain drive.
@williamsawyer690
@williamsawyer690 6 лет назад
Does the Chinese government subsidies the Sur Ron? I mean does Sur Ron sell the bikes to U.S. dealers for a loss and then the Chinese government pays Sur Ron a subsidy to allow them to be profitable? Therefore killing a local or domestic company in the U.S. from developing an ebike in the United States that they can sell for a profit? I bet they do!
@cachem11
@cachem11 5 лет назад
I don't think so. The Sur Ron is selling at an even lower price in China and we still think it's way too expensive as we have so many $1000 options. The labor cost in China is quite high compared to countries like Cambodia or Vietnam, but we have the advantages of having the complete supply chain and logistics, that's why we are able to keep the manufacturing cost down.
@Legaceybeats
@Legaceybeats 5 лет назад
That little tiny bike will never fit the size of a real man
@-joo3033
@-joo3033 4 года назад
Yes it does...
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