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After a long anticipated wait, the video is finally done! I am reviewing and providing feedback on the chameleon enclosures you guys sent to me! Keep in mind these are just my opinions and recommendations based on my own knowledge and experiences.
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3:47 Enclosure reviews
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Комментарии : 135   
@proteustheaquarian5431
@proteustheaquarian5431 3 года назад
So ive been BINGE WATCHING all of your videos because im a new chameleon owner, always wanted to be, and I just really want to give my chameleon the BEST life. I was literally just thinking "I wish I could have an expert inspect my chameleons enclosure to see what needs to be improved and whats ok."- AND THEN THIS WAS THE NEXT VIDEO TO PLAY! I love this, this has helped me with my questions and concerns about my own setup. So thank you!!!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
You are very welcome! Happy to help :)
@DukQuack
@DukQuack 2 года назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon for 12:44 Another Problem Is Crickets And Other Types Of Insects Can Jump Out Of The Big Mesh.
@rogerlessacher8811
@rogerlessacher8811 Год назад
this could be my words!
@deniseunda733
@deniseunda733 3 года назад
Thanks so much for your input! Added extra plants and it looks great! You're the best!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Happy to help!!
@joshuaharrison6233
@joshuaharrison6233 2 года назад
Watching through again and caught your talk about the plant light about 48:10. Just a quick comment. The red and blue spectrum of LED bulbs are most beneficial for plant growth. It is cheap, cool, and can really aid plant growth. I use them in house low light areas, for my 4 Cham cages occasionally, and for my saltwater refugium's. SO much more effective and economical that white grow lights! Just thought I'd throw that out there for consideration.
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing! I am always hesitant to recommend lighting that does not produce a white light due to the sensitivity of chameleon eyes, even if they aren't the best option for plants. There are some interesting discussions on chameleonforums.com around LED lighting I think you might think is cool.
@jimenacolmenares8069
@jimenacolmenares8069 Год назад
I like to see your videos they are very helpful for us. Chameleons are very difficult to take care of. This is our second Veiled chameleon. The first one we had it for 6 years and this one is with us since 3 years ago. Trying our best to take care of them. We love them !
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
Good luck!
@Nickwhite05
@Nickwhite05 3 года назад
So glad both my enclosures made it, love all your videos! Stoney my male panthers custom enclosure is one cage with 2 doors that I built. Limited house space made it to where I had to build cage around electric outlet this the reason for funky shape. And the blurry cage is kami's but couldn't get a better picture no matter how hard I tried, removing so e branches and headed to home depot! Thanks for all the time you spend on your videos I cannot thank you enough for all the knowledge in your videos Thank you!! Nick
@Nickwhite05
@Nickwhite05 3 года назад
49:07
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
You are very welcome!!
@jdogfunk100
@jdogfunk100 3 года назад
Wow, what an effort! Thank you so much for this
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
You're very welcome!
@nicholewalker1704
@nicholewalker1704 Год назад
I love you and ur videos I learn so much I am super excited to receive my new enclosure for my chameleon once set up I’m gonna submit it for you to review thanks for all the encouragement and love you give to the chameleon community
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
Thank you so much! Good luck with your new chameleon :)
@lucasdelaere2634
@lucasdelaere2634 2 года назад
Thanks for this very informative video! The thing about the hammocks is absolutely true! It ripped out one of my beardies claws and he actually bled. Luckily it healed quickly
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Glad to hear it healed :)
@thefinitemike
@thefinitemike 2 года назад
I think a lot of people might try to recreate the whole forest environment (sparse floor, dense canopy) when, for me, it works better to treat the enclosure as though it is within the tree and requires the dense coverage throughout.
@WhitneyDahlin
@WhitneyDahlin 8 месяцев назад
Yeah exactly chameleons are going to be high up in the canopy! They're not going to be just above the ground!
@YoungNeo777
@YoungNeo777 Год назад
The only thing I don't like about filling in the tank really thick is you don't see the chameleon as much... I want to watch him
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
Sometimes we have to set aside our personal preferences and do what is best for the chameleon 💚
@kaitlinrobertson316
@kaitlinrobertson316 3 года назад
I just love how informative all your videos are! It has helped me with my chameleon who recently joined the fam. All your videos have helped guide me in my purchases and further research. Took me several months to feel comfortable before bringing hulk home, but he’s doing so good right now!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Awesome! Happy to help :)
@jordanroberts7360
@jordanroberts7360 3 года назад
Thanks for the review!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
You’re welcome!!
@DonKeesh
@DonKeesh 3 года назад
keeping potted plants off the cage floor makes it easier to clean and reduces places for escaped feeders to hide. Also allows the cage floor to dry if you have enough drainage holes.
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
All great points! I haven’t had any issues with lost feeders, cleaning, etc. But I can totally see how that would be easier without potted plants. Thanks for sharing :)
@ericchavez1850
@ericchavez1850 3 года назад
Keep it up Neptune. Learned 90% about panther chameleons from you. 🙏🏻🙌
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Love hearing that 🥰
@slay9793
@slay9793 3 года назад
Same this channel helped me know that I shouldn’t use fake plants or use the kit stuff
@brooklynsak507
@brooklynsak507 Год назад
same! i was gonna use a GLASS enclosure before i saw her vids
@MythKatana
@MythKatana Год назад
@@brooklynsak507 if you live in a cold dry place glass actually can be better
@jimenacolmenares8069
@jimenacolmenares8069 Год назад
Thanks for your help ! we need your advise. THANKS !!! :)
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
Happy to help!
@basknbark6601
@basknbark6601 3 года назад
I submitted 4 DIY enclosures can’t wait
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Hopefully I was able to get to yours! I tried to get to everyone who submitted by the deadline. Ended up being over 80 enclosures 😳
@basknbark6601
@basknbark6601 3 года назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon I’m sure u did I had a different RU-vid name
@basknbark6601
@basknbark6601 3 года назад
Email was justintanya22
@anotheryoutbechannel
@anotheryoutbechannel 3 года назад
I bought a washer and dryer drain pan and it fits perfectly under the cage. I drilled a hole and it empties into a 5 gallon bucket
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Love that!
@DonKeesh
@DonKeesh 3 года назад
Drainage is key!!!!
@anotheryoutbechannel
@anotheryoutbechannel 3 года назад
@@DonKeesh it works so well. I still havent figured out how to keep my plants relatively dry. Ive had a few small ones get soggy and rot out.
@taylord9772
@taylord9772 2 года назад
Hey great videos I’ve watched a bunch as my panther is coming in January, I had a question tho, if I want to grow live plants do I need a grow light ? Or will the uvb for the chameleon alone work ? Any insight would be great thanks
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
That really depends on the plants you use since some have more light requirements than others. I just got a grow light last year after not using one and my plants have been ✨thriving✨ ever since. So not required by any means, but certainly VERY helpful. Here’s the one I use: Arcadia Jungle Dawn 34W LED bar: amzn.to/3zoOvHy
@quantumring
@quantumring Месяц назад
My chameleon will eat the leaves of the plant I put in, but it doesn't eat fake plant. Shall I keep update the new plant for it to eat or just put the fake plant instead?
@stephenyum
@stephenyum 2 года назад
You can use 12% uvb about 6 inch’s above the screen or 14% about 12 inches above the screen. You would actually get a bigger and wider range of usable (for the Cham) uvb, but if its on the screen like yours are then what you said is correct (especially with screen climbing)
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Correct! Most people prefer the convenience of just putting the UVB directly on the enclosure.
@Kitsune1989
@Kitsune1989 7 месяцев назад
Odd question on an old video. Any suggestions for a panther build housing a hermaphrodite chameleon? He does lay eggs as females do but as every outward sign like colour and such (see avatar picture for the troublemaker) says male he doesnt have the same colour change indicators to know when to put a laying bin in. Is there a way to incorporate a permanent laying bin that i can just take out to get rid of unfertalized eggs and put back, rather then putting in when theyre indicating 'ready' (since his colouring says male and thus doesnt give classic female ready-to-lay signs) and then removing the rest of the time? If it helps i do fully bioactive soil bottom enclosures with enough plantlife and branches to make babies an absolute nightmare to find when first getting. The amount of times i swear a baby had escaped only to find one sitting under a leaf by a branch I'd checked twenty times already. Pothos is very much my friend for propagation.
@michaelsmccray
@michaelsmccray Год назад
Hey Neptune and sweet lady, can you please look at enclosure for my chameleon, and let me know if I should make any changes. I was given this tank and my friend made this wire screen lid. Thanks guys.
@thomasmilburn199
@thomasmilburn199 2 года назад
Thanks again!!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Happy to help!
@HaleyThompson-iw5rw
@HaleyThompson-iw5rw 3 месяца назад
Do baby chameleons need the same amount of ubv? I bought the recommended bulb but my little guy is only 3 months old and i wanted to make sure I'm not over exposing
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 месяца назад
Yes!
@aprilrose2781
@aprilrose2781 3 года назад
kind of topic but not really, whats your take or do you know about spray paint? Im looking to spray paint some fake bamboo (its tan and I want it to be green) for my enclosure.... I am going to let it sit and dry for about 2 weeks before I even place in the enclosure so I feel it may become safe but im really unsure? I saw on the forums that krylon fusion may be safe but then others said it may not be so idk lol
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
I’d avoid using bamboo since it can be slippery for them to climb. You’ll also want to make sure the spray paint is water proof. I’ve used Flex Seal in the past.
@jessicap3631
@jessicap3631 3 года назад
I have a solar meter and originally had a reptisun linear 5.0 light but when I measured the UVB, the index was only 0.3 So I got a 10.0 and now it hits the 3.0 index. I don’t want to over expose him but the meter reads the correct index.
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
This is why I always recommend solar meters :) It's the only way to know for certain what your levels are.
@chancechance678
@chancechance678 3 года назад
Thank you for the vid too bad I missed the submission for my enclosure. Question I have for you is I found 3 ants in my chameleons enclosure and was only able to capture 1 without them hiding in the branches and leaves. How do I safely get rid of the ants or is it not a huge problem only seeing a small amount? Also my Chameleon I just got a couple days ago and was able to follow all the right steps thanks to your videos, the problem is he is not eating out of his cup with plenty of worms. I’ve only seen him eat 2 crickets in the 3 days I’ve had him and the 2 crickets were loose in his enclosure and not in his cup. So he’s not eating out of his cup or show any interest in it.
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
I don't have any experience with ants in my enclosures. Here is my video on advice for new keepers that talks about chams not eating: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2IESxfzFnmc.html
@amyschaub5725
@amyschaub5725 2 года назад
Shes not eating them because it's on strike that why she ate the crickets because there different
@kevincangiano8869
@kevincangiano8869 3 года назад
Huge question!!!!!!! What is the best food to feed my Vail Chameleon, I'm just so confused on what's the best with so many different answers, please help!!!!!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Here is my video about that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9BAs2Os1XN8.html
@nadyagrillo1960
@nadyagrillo1960 3 года назад
where do I find the branches though. Like I can't just go outside and pick some up and put it in the enclosure right? I always check at my local pet store but they never have :( where do I go?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Here is my video about that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QwMzM6Zuzpg.html
@clover8893
@clover8893 3 года назад
Hey! I had some questions I hoped you could answer! So, about a week ago I received a female panther chameleon by a family member. She is one years old. My main concern is why she is always dark and ashy. From research, this could mean many things. It’s usually 70-85 degrees in there daily. I have her light on all day until night (7:30 or 8:00) when it’s her bedtime. (Btw this is my first time ever having a chameleon). I spray the enclosure when humidity gets below 50%. We also got her a little dropper for water. We have been giving her super worms but yesterday we found out that they can get addicted so I’m getting silk worms today. Anyway, I’m still confused on why she is always dark. The only time she was actually bright was the day we first got her. Ever since then, she’s been pretty dark Orange. It’s really worrying and I feel like I might have to give her to someone who knows better but I’m scared. Also, if we had to go to the vet, idk how I would get her out of there. I’m in a pretty stressful mindset rn. I hope she’s not sick. Any tips or any advice? It would be extremely helpful.
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
I would lower her basking temp to be no hotter than 80F. I suggest you watch my top 5 videos for new keepers: ru-vid.com/group/PLBkCuo7YecLbG_MB7ogFmcoWP2GUXDIGJ Also make sure she has lots of places to hide and feel safe. I would also watch my video on egg laying since there is a chance she is showing gravid colors: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Dy6sIPvNGUw.html I'll be posting a video soon on how to transport your chameleon.
@clover8893
@clover8893 3 года назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon omg- Thank you so much for replying!!! 😭 This is very helpful! Thank you!!!
@Joeym928
@Joeym928 2 года назад
I purchased 1 inch diameter branches for my chamelon but I feel they’re too thick.. what size do you recommend for diameter
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
You wnat to use branches small enough so that their feet can wrap around them.
@kennybowen3142
@kennybowen3142 2 года назад
Hey there I was wondering if black mold on the floor of the cage is normal? If not how do I prevent mold from growing?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
It is not normal. I would make sure your enclosure has time to dry out during the day.
@Alexiss730
@Alexiss730 3 года назад
Question, Can you help me with an opinion on how old you think my veiled chameleon is ?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
I'd need to see pictures of them. I'd suggest looking up the ages of other chams and comparing their colors to the pictures.
@bluecaka69
@bluecaka69 Год назад
Will you be doing another one of these I would like some input on my new setup
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
No I will not be doing another one of these anytime soon. But I do offer video calls where I give you custom, personalized feedback on your enclosure and answer any questions you have about chameleon care: linktr.ee/NeptuneTheChameleon
@yallen770
@yallen770 Год назад
Are reptile vines woven from paracord okay for my chameleon terrarium?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
I wouldn’t recommend using those since they can rip out their nails 😳
@akpiggymasterz3248
@akpiggymasterz3248 2 года назад
What is that side thing called in the beginning photo
@mcfly0218
@mcfly0218 2 года назад
Is a Podophylum White ok to put in chomilon incloser?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
I’m not familiar with that plant so I can’t say one way or the other.
@DJxoticZz
@DJxoticZz Год назад
What uvb bulb do you recommend for a 4ft high and wide enclosure and has the bigger wholes mesh?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
Oooh the bigger holed mesh makes it tricky. Best option would be to buy a solar meter 6.5 to test the exact UVB levels given the bigger mesh will allow more UVB (www.amazon.com/dp/B076GXJFJG?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzclari071-20&creativeASIN=B076GXJFJG&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3O75E57RVWGRY&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin&th=1). A T5 5.0/6% is usually recommended for the 4ft tall enclosures with the standard smaller mesh.
@DJxoticZz
@DJxoticZz Год назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon ok thank you
@jimenacolmenares8069
@jimenacolmenares8069 Год назад
Hello, I have a veiled chameleon and he is not climbing the branches. He was sick 2 years ago and he stop also eating by himself. I need to feed him manually. He is doing better now but not sure what the best floor for his cage. He has now grass because he spend most of the day almost all day in the floor. Now he has a swollen finger and something reddish in the underneath of this foot. We were advised by the vet to feed him with a variety of insects and also once a week with a pinkie.(frozen mice). so he can have protein. Now we are worried his swollen finger. His cage has a mister that is on in the morning until 6 pm. It mist 1 minute every hour. I wanted to ask you if the mister time is good and also any other idea for the floor. Grass has been good. THANKS!!!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
You're welcome to book a video call with me to review your care and help figure out what might be going on: neptunethechameleon.simplybook.me/v2/
@thefirstlight5784
@thefirstlight5784 3 года назад
I have a question I have almost a 4 month old veiled chameleon how do I get him to eat the dubious roaches he refuses to eat them and I've left them in all night within the bowl all day and I come home and the same amount is still there what am I doing wrong please help
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-waCeIkQE1hw.html
@yazminlopez6534
@yazminlopez6534 3 года назад
Iam exited
@theadventuresofsuperaj8360
@theadventuresofsuperaj8360 Год назад
Hey, when our you gonna do this again? Would love if I could summit mine to know your thoughts
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
Unlikely I'll do this again anytime soon. But I do offer paid enclosure reviews! You can book one here: linktr.ee/NeptuneTheChameleon
@jessebreyer709
@jessebreyer709 2 месяца назад
Are aloe Vera plants okay?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 месяца назад
I'd suggest looking them up on chameleonforums.com since I don't have any experience with using those in enclosures.
@jessebreyer709
@jessebreyer709 2 месяца назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon okay thank you I have a huge one I’d like to put in an enclosure but it has that tiny little spikes on it. I personally don’t think a chameleon would have a problem with them they are pretty dull but I’ll have a look there thank you
@tommysmart7288
@tommysmart7288 3 года назад
Mine made the vid lets goooo
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Woohoooo
@titanocreations3244
@titanocreations3244 2 года назад
Is a t5 uvb good or bad?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Those are great for chameleons! I would recommend a T5 5.0 HO UVB bulb for a 48" tall enclosure. Here is my video about UVB: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5RVjgaLsWn8.html
@ashleyheller3858
@ashleyheller3858 2 года назад
Hey there! I have been working on my veiled chameleons enclosure for a few months now and I was hoping to submit a picture of my enclosure, to see if its ready for my Cham to come home! Is there any chance I can send a picture somewhere, if you're still doing these? Thanks! :)
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
I am not doing an enclosure review video anytime soon but I am now offering one on one video consulting if you want to book some time with me I'd be happy to review your enclosure and answer any questions you might have: neptunethechameleon.simplybook.me/v2/#
@ashleyheller3858
@ashleyheller3858 2 года назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon okay so there isn’t any way i could just message you a pic? and you could tell me what to fix, if not that’s okay, just checking! :)
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
@@ashleyheller3858 I get too many people asking me to review their enclosures to be able to get back to everyone so the booking tool helps be able to provide custom feedback and maintain a balanced life. I'd suggest watching my cage build video to compare your enclosure to and see what changes, if any, need to be made: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n2H-VubFs3A.html
@colbyadams9310
@colbyadams9310 5 месяцев назад
Lattice wood fence
@kamiway1255
@kamiway1255 3 года назад
is it okay for me to put ice on my enclosure for it to drip water
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Yes
@kamiway1255
@kamiway1255 3 года назад
tysm
@Jimmythejerboa
@Jimmythejerboa Год назад
Are olive tree branches okay?
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
I don't have any experience with olive tree branches to say one way or the other.
@hannahcathey600
@hannahcathey600 2 года назад
I have a few questions about my chameleon he’s not doing good and not eating the vet acted like they didn’t care if I could please get into contact with you I really need some help!? I’m desperate😩🙏🏼
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Shoot me a DM on Instagram @neptunethechameleon
@codyscott7266
@codyscott7266 2 года назад
How can I get in contact with you? I would really love to show you the enclosure I built for my wife’s chameleon. I think you’ll love it and I’ll be more than happy to take feed back from you about it!
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Feel free to DM me on Instagram: @neptunethechameleon
@brandynicole9171
@brandynicole9171 Год назад
Where do u get ur sticks??
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
I get them from outside and made a video on how I sanitize them!
@brandynicole9171
@brandynicole9171 Год назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon what's the name of video called
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon Год назад
@@brandynicole9171 Should pop up if you search ‘cleaning branches Neptune the chameleon’
@thatonegirl3540
@thatonegirl3540 2 года назад
How do we submit pics tho lol.
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
Submissions are closed right now. I will post if/when they open back up :)
@thatonegirl3540
@thatonegirl3540 2 года назад
@@NeptunetheChameleon ok thank u sorry.
@DukQuack
@DukQuack 2 года назад
12:44 Also Crickets And Other Types Of Insects Can Jump Out Of The Big Whole.
@BrandonBaunach
@BrandonBaunach 2 года назад
cute
@pamjacobson6236
@pamjacobson6236 26 дней назад
Lattice.
@ttvtypugpro3573
@ttvtypugpro3573 2 года назад
Can y di another and u send u minne (i onow its all spelt weong im in hurry)
@karalinarideout5501
@karalinarideout5501 3 года назад
1st comment on this vid 😊
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 3 года назад
Woohoo!!
@acgoma6858
@acgoma6858 3 года назад
I have a TikTok account named framed_innocent and I will be commenting on your videos
@BobMonty99
@BobMonty99 2 года назад
Mesh enclosures are useless for chameleons or any lizard that has claws . Anyone that has owned them for awhile no is this the claws get pulled out and the chameleon can’t move for a week or so
@NeptunetheChameleon
@NeptunetheChameleon 2 года назад
If an enclosure is set up correctly than a chameleon should not be climbing the screen in the first place.
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