ISTP care a lot more than you think. They just don’t say it out loud but they’ll show it with their actions. However, you will need to put efforts in trying to appreciate the way ISTP care though, as they don’t talk about it and do not like talking about it.
this is the first time i’ve heard someone describe the istp as the therapist/psychologist friend. that’s one of the things that makes my relationships so fulfilling, because i enjoy reading people and giving them objective advice when they ask for it. and usually people will just tell me things because i typically don’t judge them for it, so they see it as a way to get it out in the open but also sometimes they need a third person pov which i provide.
As an istp I don't seek social interaction but end up "popular" dispute myself. At least that's how my brother put it. You hit the nail on the head, people are drawn to talk because they don't feel judged... unfortunately they will sometimes tell you things you wish they hadn't.
@@Joyfullagony ISTPs are often superb people-watchers/psychiatrists/psychologists. It’s a mistake to regard them as mechanical sociopaths (which some people do) just because they have a certain ‘zen aloofness’ to them. I’d say ISTPs are a very misunderstood type.
Having an ISTP friend is the most underrated thing in the world. If I ever need someone to be straight with me I know I can trust them to give me an honest perspective. I kinda hate coddling people who validate every choice I make, because I will already make every excuse for my behavior (E7 things), and so having someone who naturally embraces honesty is so refreshing and inspiring
Let me just say that the ISTP thinking and observing is done so quickly and almost without second thought that it seems like going with your gut but it is not. It's the ability to access something extremely quickly.
Ah yes, ISTP. The actual sister type to the INFJ, the only 2 introverts that operate in their internal world with both Ti and Ni. Carl Jung thought he might be an ISTP (Ti/Se). Of the warrior-monk archetype, the ISTP is the warrior and the INFJ the monk. Developing both, ISTP or the INFJ are both stoic, disciplined and detached.
Superp comparison! I always relate to istps more than any other types as an infj and I often see both types as "monks & worriors" like you mentioned. (Musashi & Takuan dynamics) Both internal & external roles can even be juggled around at times. I would venture to say if one thinks of oneself as an infj but doesn't relate to istps, they're not infjs. Simple as that.
@@AcidCH wish I had more ISTP friends(me INFJ). I have always thought that we have much to offer each other; I.e. they help us refine introverted thinking and we INFJs with their Ni
Infj father here with two istp teens. A lot of what has been said here makes sense to me. The father child relationship creates some interesting dynamics. I have to force myself to stop talking/explaining things beyond a certain point otherwise I drive them underground. It is frustrating for me because I just want to resolve things but they can quickly become exhausted by it. When they open up it is often a seemingly unconnected barrage of questions which I never feel I am able to adequately address before the next question is dropped on me. There is a degree of harmony in the relationship and we enjoy each others company a great deal, but it requires a lot of discipline on my part and I can often get exhausted by their need for large amounts of sensory entertainment/experience. It has helped me to balance some of my own traits and I can see how both types can be complementary, but it does take consistent effort and mutual appreciation for that to work.
ISTP: life is a mystery to be understood/explored. INFJ: life is a mystery to be lived. INTP: life is a problem to be solved. INTJ: life is a problem to be mastered.
It's surprising, but my twin sister is an INFJ and I am an ISTP. Growing up, I've always said we were compliments to each other in personality. A weakness in one twin is complimented by the other twin's strength.
Sherlock Holmes is indeed an ISTP because Ti Se. This is always blatantly obvious to me but this video explained to me why. I'm an INFJ and it used to baffle me why I resonate with his mental process. Ni-Ti seems to be one of the hardest function combos to explain, and Se-Ni out of its own demonstrative & condensed quality can be easily misinterpreted, as conpared to axes with more common contextual references like Ne-Si. Thanks for a brilliant video as usual.:)
Oh, yes more complication. Already, there is enough debate regarding whether Sherlock of BBC series is INTP or INTJ. Michael himself classified Sherlock of BBC as INTJ in his website or blog post. He also classified Sherlock of books as a weird ESTP. Now, you classify Sherlock as ISTP (You mean Sherlock from books or Netflix?) and Michael seems to agree with you.
So I’ve only just learned like yesterday that I am supposedly ISTP. It interests me you say Sherlock is ISTP cause I feel the same re relating to the way he processes things in his head. Obvs I’m not saying I can do it too on his level, not even close 😂 but idk I’ve just always loved how much SENSE it makes that someone could understand the world in the way he does. In every version 😂
@@Hari-kx2er I mean the one from the books. He did seem like a weird ESTP, maybe because he was written by the perspective that an ESTP has towards an ISTP.
This is fascinating to me. I am an INFP who was married to an ISTP. I also dated two other ISTPs, one for over two years and the other for about six months. It's really amazing to me how the S is for stupid, sort of stereotypes got going. My guess is, because ISTPs aren't all that common compared to some of the SJ types, and people who really dig deep into personality and typology do tend to be intuitive types, people assume that they are INTPs when interacting with them. I personally always assumed that they were introverted feeling types, because they were loving and caring without being overly emotional about it. In other words, I thought that they were like me, haha! They actually were all very emotionally demonstrative, but very privately so. Anyway, they are really my cup of tea. I just keep falling for them. Genuine, provocative, insightful, fun and interesting people that they are. Also, they dont talk when there's nothing to say and leave you alone mostly. What could be better? Thanks for doing them justice and dimensionalizing the type.
I'm also INFP and married to ISTP lol. It's been interesting. I'm just starting to understand him better and it's great . I always thought he was lacking in emotions and didn't care but I guess I have been wrong ☺
My INFP brother thinks I do not have any emotions. That's not true, though. It is weird how other people perceive us from the outside. He must know I care, though. Like that one time I tracked down two guys that beat him up while he was drunk at a party. I kicked the living shit out of them. Isn't that love?
mz norI get crazy, Why we (as ISTP) can’t share what’s going on in our mind? I feel like have nothing to share with others sometimes. Another ISTP issues is we are invisible among friends or family. Same feeling? What is the solution?
As an ISTP myself, I think spending time with friends and family more frequently and talking about what's happening in their/our lives at least once a week ...or going out with them and forcing ourselves to be with them literally can be helpful. Because suppose ,if we want them to appreciate us for what we are and what we are doing, we have to let them into our lives and let them see what we are doing and share our process with them,include them as much as you can...so that, when we finally accomplish things, we won't be going upto them after a month of being isolated...and say ,yo I did this and this...and they won't be excited as we are, and Fe will be hurt. We'll be like meh,people don't appreciate my value....when instead, if we let them in our lives, sometimes, their understanding of our accomplishments or knowledge would be on a deeper level. I ,of course, am still working on this myself.... but I think, accepting that we need to let people in our lives and live with them, be there for them when they need help, even emotional help, is a first step.
I have nothing to share most of the time. I can think my way out of sharing. It goes through a process that involves a funnel i.e 4 concepts behind what is being said. And that is (what is being said falls under those 4 concepts of communication ) From objective truths i.e facts , observations, informative ideas to subjective experience.
I completely second your observation about the ISTP being the INFJs only therapist. As an INFJ, my ISTP friend is the only person I have ever felt an uncontrollable compulsion to share my inner world with, and one of the only people whose opinion I trust blindly, because she cannot speak less than the full truth. In some sense, she is the only person I feel like I can actually talk to like a normal person.
@Andy Dodds I don't have any specific suggestions for you, but I can give you some qualities of abilities that might fit ISTPs. Their abilities should be something that directly affects the world around them and maybe even have a combat element to then. It should be something that is heavily skill based and slowly developed because it requires practice to master. Once mastered, their abilities can be incredibly effective. However, if you want to build a weakness, that would be when they become emotional, their abilities can become unstable or destructive until they learn to master that part of themselves. Hope this helps give you some ideas.
@Andy Dodds That could work. I would add that they can develop a level of skill with whatever ability they are practicing that it can surprising and somewhat threatening to those who have it naturally. However, they can't do that with all the other types' abilities at the same time. They can only be a master 1 or 2 at a time.
HAHA I have INFJ friend and she feels the exact same way too me!! she says the exact things youve commented and its funny because she's like "any I know you probably don't feel the same lol" and we just laugh (I'm a dude)
I see Stanley Kubrick thumbnail on an MBTI video I click. “It’s the first time that I remember feeling psychologically naked in front of someone. Maybe I should rephrase that.” Why? That was poetic and beautiful and seems to capture the essence of what you meant why change it?”
I actually think that ISTP and ENFJ are very much alike when it comes to their goals in life, they just take different paths to the achievement of their goals. Well, the difference between ISTP and ENFJ is that "ISTP knows in order to appreciate" and "ENFJ appreciates in order to know".
My best friend is an enfj, and we create the same decks, do the same rpg strategies, and reach the same conclusions, but through vastly different ways and systems. Its quite fascinating as an istp to analyze and watch unfold :)
OMG! The interaction between the ISFP and ENFP was hilarious. I feel out of my chair laughing when she blew up the planet so the "poor Martians can have a better view of Venus," and ISTP's eyes were popping out of his face. This made me think....what is there was such as thing as MBTI Stand Up Comedy. Like an HBO Special or show on Comedy Central. This scene would definitely make the cut.
As an intp, having istp friends is incredibly useful because they always have such good perspectives to take into account, and I can also reveal the contrary side of things to them and legitimize other perspectives to them. It makes for a very mutually beneficial relationship.
Thanks for the info . MY husband is ISTP and after 20 years of marriage I'm finally starting to understand him ! I am pretty much his opposite. A INFP . We are both introverts but that's where any similarity ends lol
My best friend is an INFJ and she tends to feel as if I know her exceptionally well, it sort of confuses her in some ways I can tell. I also for some reason am able to make predictions about people and their lives, although my delivery isn't as great as hers is. I'm constantly trying to take care to adjust my language so that I may not accidentally hurt people.
The same I tought that was a Ni dom skill, but INTJs doesn't care about people and INFJs want to read emotions. INTPs will think in so many ways that will be tricky for them
13:40 is the most relatable thing ever. When I'm working I usually get a vision about the product and then keep going without stopping, and I feel like I lose track of alternative solutions
I do that as well. I'm a refrigeration tech and engineer (I wear both hats at work). When I'm fixing a problem, I get this image of what a perfect repair should look like. Once I get this image, someone almost has to hit me over the head with missing information if I need to change that image.
I hate enfp types cant tell if I'm an INTP or ISTP though.I feel as though I'm more in my head than concrete. I like mastering things but I also like being lost in thought of possiblities
We're not robots, we do care. However, too much discussion of how others feel about us makes it hard to reciprocate no matter how we feel about them. I feel I'm repeating the same sappy words they spoke to me but the obvious obligatory tone makes us sound cold. Overuse of strong, emotional declarations really contribute to loss of any actual meaning.
I interact with an ISTP daily in an online game we head a guild together in. This has helped me, an ENTP, gain more information on what goes on in her head when she's running raids. "Individual. You are being Invalid. Correct it." It always cracks me up, but my FE cringes at the reactions of others. This information will help me a lot. When leadership is Us, ISFP and INFJ, it can be interesting. These videos have been invaluable. Thanks. :)
At 19:00 I complelty felt that. Sometimes I pretend to be a certain way so that people can feel more comfortable around me. I love making people comfortable! Like the way that I show not to really care about other people which weardily makes people feel comfortable and be able to unload their thoughts, or ideas on me, good or bad. Oh and also I have made people be offended by saying the word "homosexual" when referring to homosexuals, instead of using the work "gay". Or saying that "transexual women" are men, even with surgery and injected hormones are still male and not women. But it's great when they get mad because I immediately know who I have to cut off completely. I will not entertain these ideas.
Fictional ISTP -Character Archetype:[Anti-Hero][Assassin][Byronic Hero][Gadgeteer][Individualist][Lone Wolf][Mercenary][Renaissance Man][Rebel] -Has a calm and collected personality, but also cherishes friends, and relatives who are closest to them. -Their character alignment would be Chaotic Neutral and Lawful Neutral -Refuses to join the good side and evil side, they simply want to be left alone or minding their own business -Reject society's norms, and traditions, as a result of becoming disillusion, which led them to create their own moral code by becoming an Ubermensch -If someone messes with them, and the perpetrator would be a jackass and starts pushing too many buttons, expect them to have a hair-trigger temper or a bat-shit crazy side, and will definitely tear you apart. -But be warn this type well exhibit reckless behavior and will cause damage, by everyone around them.
Although I always get your little jokes and side comments, the house one actually made me laugh. Well, the hobby of your ISTP friend is also mine. I take great pride and pleasure in being able to read the most bizarre things from how people dress, move, hold themselves, and behave.
That last metaphor and last sentence... Gold, man! :D One of my most recent friends (as an INFJ) is an ISTP, and I marvel at how we are so similar yet so fundamentally different. She is so calm, smart and ethical, but she also has this aura of just pure ruthlessness that I find so completely fascinating in combination! We also have a common friend in an ISFP, which I feel is the perfect mediator for all three of us to get along, the dynamic is really unusual, centered so deeply around our shared Ni-Se... It's really intriguing. I have the best discussions with those two!
Thank you. I would love to see a video specific to the ISTP female. There seems very little of substance on that topic. Have you any plans for something like that?
@@supreetsingh987 they’re looking for how it plays out in females since too often ISTP analysis is ‘likes to take cars apart, doesn’t talk’ which is neither ISTP or how most ISTP females are socialized
@@namedrop721 Plus I feel like the ISTP female may have more trouble fitting in due to being considered "stuck-up" or "tomboyish", and I'd be curious to know if this impacts other aspects of their personality later Speaking from experience here.
Watching this as a ENFJ TRIPS ME OUT. I feel like I am actually a ISTP in my true conscious who's trying accomplish and master being such an ENFJ in the outside world. It makes totally friggen sense. Thank you Michael!
Thank you! I'm an ENFP and I just did an MBTI test with my 6 year old and though I know that types are believed not to be concrete until the mid 20s, his result of ISTP-T seems spot on for now. I love him and find his blunt and cool demeanour very cute. He's so tough he didn't cry when he had stitches and he quietly observes everything and is a bit quirky, gets embarrassed about things others don't care about and cares a lot about things not being seemingly fair to him at times. He has observed others and taught himself to stand up on a surfboard and can drop into the bowl at the skate park after only a few tries. He's very observant and this helps me to understand I need to be more careful in some ways and try to narrow things down directly and simply and logically. Oh my goodness, the flitting eyes taking everything in LOL. True! I'm interested in learning how to effectively discipline, teach and guide my lil istp, and what thibgs istp's view as important and priorities due to their cog functions.
G M , I am istp married to an enfp. It bothers me when he wants me to do something but he won’t say it directly. I would try being direct with your little guy. My mom use to send me to my room as punishment but I loved it. I think I would have benefited more by getting an explanation. If I already knew it was wrong and did it anyways, then a spanking. I know most people think that’s wrong but I don’t. Also of course real world punishment. Meaning if they throw milk on their sibling, they need to apologize and clean up the mess. If they break something, they need to repair it. I always did poorly in school. Not because I disliked learning but because I wanted to learn every aspect of everything and that’s just not how schools work. There’s not enough time for that. It felt disappointing and incomplete to learn so fast and only surface ideas and facts. I hope that helps you a bit.
I am an istp with an enfp mom,, here is what i think.. First off, when he gets older let him be alone, especially at night. Second off, when he tests his ti theories on you it is because he loves you and wants to share them with you. I do this with my mom but one time when I was explaining my rationality to her, I had the realization that she was using me to feed her ne, in other words my idea was only interesting to her because it was a cool thought experiment, she was not going to be convinced of anything nor was she going to use it herself. I felt cheated and tried to avoid talking with her for several months. We (istps) consider interactions to be experiments; gathering data for how to live our lives. Finally, what he most likely will appreciate the most about you is how encouraging and open minded you are about letting him try stuff.
Also, I tested as an istp when I was about ten. I think we exhibit our traits very openly. One more thing, don't let him walk over you. It gives us comfort as kids to know what to expect from our parents.
Thank you again Michael Pierce. I've been brought here from the revisiting INFJ video. Interestingly, what you describe here is what I do. I start from facts or what we all can see and then dive below to understand how it all works. I see or rather look for the stuff other people don't see. I think I am an INFJ and understand Ni as starting from facts or the appearance of facts on the surface and diving deeper and deeper until I feel I know what is going on ultimately with this or that aspect of reality. What results eventually seems like more facts and is just 'what it is' as you put it. It becomes another aspect of reality now better seen. I also find it impossible to accept concepts that I have not thought through and synthesised with the rest of my understanding for myself. How much of this do you think is just an aspect of Se working with Ni as opposed to having Se leading Ni? How does the Ti independence show up in an INFJ differently than a Ti Dom?
When I’m at the studio and my friends hops in a Records his verse I have to help him fix the part where he ruined the song ( I produced the records ) and if I don’t it haunts me
Finally a description beyond the stereotypes. I think it all clicks now, even if I'm zeroing in from the most direct viewpoint, resultant from a satisfying flash of insight. Great methodical explanation, as always.
This is my I'm going into the garage, into my sketch-book, I'm going to ride my motorcycle groove. Or I'm at a social event and I don't feel like interacting so much. More often I'm ESTP.
Michael Pierce is the greatest MBTI RU-vidr of all time, such in depth information! Devoid of bias, just the way I like it ;p I like how you avoided stereotypes and gave a comprehensive overview of the deep nature ISTP can possess. While many of them I've seen on Reddit, for instance, are rather immature in their personal development, those kinds of people didn't skew your interpretation thankfully. Like davesuperpowers mentions, there are more TiSe (DomAux) and TiNi (DomTert) types.
Great video! Until recently I was mistyped as INTP, and now having watched this and hearing myself being described so perfectly, I don't even know how I could have ever imagined myself being any other type.
I'm struggling so hard to figure out if I'm an ISTP or INFJ, as you briefly touched on in this video. C. S. Joseph teaches that the ISTP aspires through Fe to be the ENFJ and often appears to be an INFJ as the introverted/extroverted switch can be difficult. The INFJ then aspires through Se to be the ESTP and often appears to be an ISTP as the introverted/extroverted switch can be difficult. I've always been naturally gifted with the physical world - sports, hand-eye coordination, art, mechanics, etc, but in my childhood I would also often criticize others for irresponsible and immoral behavior, such as drug use, promiscuity, etc. I have religious faith, and I neglect my health often when I'm on a roll and finishing projects. When it comes to maintenance, I fix everything on my car and in my house on my own, and my career is working as an engineer. But, all of my passions are sensory and art-related, being making and releasing new music CDs or shooting photography. I'm a perfectionist when it comes to Se and I'm confident in my work.. that is until I have to give a presentation live and in front of an audience, and that's where all my anxiety comes out.
Most of your Hollywood examples, in just about every video that I’ve watched, are wrong, but your explanations of the cognitive functions are super accurate.
I love dead pan humor!!!! I feel like istp and enfp can be a great duo as a business or any team- because they can take care of the things they are best at- smoothly -and help each other level or develop the weak skills. (intuitive & people or technical and rational skills)
So you are an INFJ. Explains how you can make these videos accurately. Im impress by you and hope you make more of these videos. Its good to know my own kin.
Thank you so much for the video. :) Also that ISTP and ENFP scenario is alarmingly familiar. Lol. Your ISTP friend sounds like a charming lady. I liked that you find some of their interactions funny as well. Keep up the good work.
Very informative video! My only qualm is that some sections felt too wordy and could've been explained faster, but that's probably just because I'm an ISTP :)
As an INFP most of my friends consist of INFJ, INTP, and INTJ but there’s this one ISTP whom I recently met and he is amazing. He fell for me so fast and it was weird considering he did not seem like the type but he is very expressive about his adoration towards me
I think the only other one whom I really want to meet and might be my absolute favorite is ENFP!! (being that all my fav main anime characters are ENFPs) They are like the extroverted version of INFP :,) Also fun fact my ISTP friend hates my INFJ friend and idk why :((
I really related to the example at 5:36 about the game. I played a game like this once in middle school and absolutely hated it with a passion. It just made me feel stupid and like a killjoy, but after hearing you talk about it, it might just be that I'm an ISTP. It was extremely annoying when people refused to reveal the rules even after the game was over saying "it's no fun unless you figure it out yourself", seemingly unaware that nothing about that game was fun or enjoyable to begin with (for me at least). If ever offered to play the game again, I will definitely promptly refuse.
A real philosophical question to think about is should this behavior be self corrected by means of personal growth or does one just exist as they always have. A majority of myself could care less, it just is. A law of the perceived universe probably. However I must know these things sometimes.
Ive seen steve jobs typed as an entj, an it seemed to make more sense in the interviews i saw, understand this mistype as i have speed typed an isfp as an enfj since he was emotinal and present like the enfj i had known that really liked his hidden agenda se, just a thought tho love the video
Conflicts with NFPs ahahah XD every freaking time. Edit 1: whoa :o the example you gave is very very much similar to how it played out between me and NFPs. Edit 2: i have felt that external feeling pressure but i got myself out of it coz it was taking a toll on me.
So, are we born this way or does society mold us into ISTP's? Is our brain wired in such a way we end up here regardless or do life events (traumatic or not) cause us to become who we have become?
I'm an istp. I don't find enfps to be that bad honestly. just sometimes yall talk too much, and my blunt honesty will start stuff sometimes. but honestly the only types I hate are unhealthy manipulators.
Question! !!! Can istp infj be a great couple? ? '-' Coz i have felt being attracted to the deep ocean like eyes they got :0 its simply very interesting.
They can. ISTPs are just mechanical, less emphatic INFJs. Both otherwise have the same cognitive functions (and both are incredibly self-reliant and independent), just in different ordering.
Bruce Lee is too abstract and metaphysical to ever be ISTP. Correct that... Micheal lol... He isn't the only false ISTP here either hahaha why man. He is all metaphors and abstraction with many words.. Not very similar to ISTP I ever saw.
