I think that applies to most if not all comic book villains. In the name of maintaining a status quo to keep on printing stories, they are not allowed to change as people in the long term, just for how long the studio needs them for whatever story arch they are making
I remember that in the game, the only reason why Rhino was so angry was because people were calling him Rhino, so much so that he only joined Doctor Oct as he promised a way out of the suit
OK but can we please acknowledge that when deadpool invited spidermans villains to his birthday party rhino is the only one to actually bring him a present implying that he was there to chill at first
My god this is a good comic. Feels like batman villain comic for most of it but it does have a somber ending yet one that is still far less depressing than any batman comic.
And it also makes you realize Spider-Man is an asshole I was actually rooting for rhino to win and kill all the gangsters at the hideout and was angry at Spider-Man for stopping him
@@12345legofreak I know but you start feeling bad for him forgetting his crimes and also listening to Spider-Man make jokes while beating your ass is not very fun probably for the guy getting his ass beat
i like how it differs though, im sure a one to one copy would be alright but them changing it to him wanting to regress instead of being forced to was interesting
I thought in Flowers for Algernon the experiment actually caused the subjects to start "decomposing" in a sense, like they would regress and then keep regressing
This story reminded me a lot of Killer Croc in that one Batman comic where he develops feelings for a woman he’s hired to protect, but fears she would never love him back. And as sad as Rhino’s story is Croc’s story Batman ends much more tragically.
Honestly Juggernaut is in the same boat as Rhino. You think he wants to go around running through buildings everyday? He has to in order to keep his power from Cytorak.
@@genesismultiverse4896 His power is not that of a mutant. He recieves it from an evil diety that demands chaos and destruction. The more he destroys, the more power he recieves. If he stops or even worse, tries to be peaceful and helping, he will start to slowly die
Personally, I see Rhino, Sandman, and Electro (at least in the "Ultimate" timeline) as being tied for the most sympathetic Spider-Man villains, purely because their original accidents permanently changed them and removed some key aspect of their humanity: Rhino being stuck in a giant body with a numb sense of touch, Sandman becoming nothing more than a sentient sand sculpture, and Electro being a living bundle of electricity. They all have reasons for why they are committing the crimes, they all have reasons to want to become better people, but they all have things which keep their situations from improving for too long.
Would Scorpion also fit this bill? The guy completely got his life destroyed effectively because of JJJ. He was just a desperate investigator who needed money.
This is an exact story line from one of my all time favorite books Flowers for Algernon. Later the book was made into a movie renamed Charlie. This story adaptation gives a nod in the name Flowers for Rhino.
People say this is a cruel fate but really rhino just went back to how he was before but happier, yeah maybe his life as a kingpin might have been better but that didn’t satisfy him and he went back to what makes him happy, if anything this is a story about rhino finding true happiness.
That is a cruel fate. A change in Rhino's status quo did make a good story, if a short one. Although it would've been nice of Spider-Man to be there to talk him out of the rash choice of suicide, I get that it isn't necessarily Peter's responsibility. I'm glad he didn't need to and Rhino made a better decision on his own, even if it was still ultimately leading full circle to a near-mindless state. Would've liked it if he could've stayed more human from his decision to get his intelligence increased. But he did end up staying a villain even while the intelligence was working for him.
Rhino has always been tragic because his origin story is honestly both sad and incredibly real. He came from a poor Russian family and he wanted a better life for his mom so he took what little money he had and took a boat to America so he could earn more cash and pay his family’s way across. The issue is that he’s a dumb, uneducated Russian immigrant in New York City. Theirs not many jobs he can get that would be able to keep a roof over his head and pay for a one way trip to America from Russia. So he fell in with a bad crowd, became hired muscle for a gang . You don’t need to be smart to crush some heads but they got wrapped up in some evil scientists schemes and offered up Aleksi to the experiment to make him tougher. He’s making him the rhino but after a while he started thinking “I’m stronger and tougher, why do I need these guys to get money?” And he went rouge which got the attention of Spider-Man and landed him in jail. Now he’s trapped, in a Rhino suit, is a wanted criminal who will never see the light of day if the Justice and prison systems could have their way. He came to America for a better life and because he was too stupid and desperate, he ruined it forever.
Might not have been Peter's responsibility, but it is in his character. I'm sure Peter would've helped him, and would help him regress the intelligence to not stupid but functional and helped him be happier. Idk why comic writers always have to go for the shitty feel bad ending.
Great work my friend, I’ve not seen anyone else cover this comic but your script, story telling and expression really brought out Rhinos emotions for me in a relatable way and made me understand him a little better. I think we all have a little Rhino in us. Keep up the good work bro!
The trope with the "Character becomes a genius and a jerk in the process" is a little bit worn out but it works here I think. It's a sad little story but with a bittersweet end. In the end, you can't escape what you are, there are things you can do and things you can't. And if the things you can do well make you happy, then all the better.
Reminds me of Rhino's story from PS4 Spider-Man, he also wanted out of his suit and give up being the Rhino. Unlike this one, PS4 Rhino is decently intelligent and his suit is just a supersuit and not a mutation (Which I think is this Rhino's story? Not entirely sure.), unfortunately though, there's no escaping the Spider-Man, his dream of returning to Russia and not trampling a field of flowers will not be achieved.
A comic adaption of the book "flowers for Algernon" ? kinda wild and the fact they made it "flowers for rhino" is kinda hilarious. i remember doing a big project on that novel back in highschool, cool seeing the discussion around that book brought up again in a more modern setting
This comic is clearly inspired by Flowers for Algernon, though it feels maybe just a bit too derivative. Definitely some great development for Rhino though.
I hope that when he ever is done in live-action again, more comic accurately, they have his Rhino suit as the original removable ones he used to have before it got fused to him. Also have him of average intelligence like he is 30/70 percent of the time he's written
This one is good, but there is one that i think shows more the tragedy of his life. I forgot the official name, but there is a story were he retired from villain life, refused any tries from prison thugs for him to help him, served his sentence and was paroled, then he found love, married and all, and was just working and living life. But then a new Rhino wannabe appeared, he was working for Mister Negative, or more precisely he was working for MN's resident mad scientist, and he wanted to become the new and improved Rhino, and for some reason he got in his head that he had to defeat Aleksei, he tried... in the chaos he killed Aleksei's wife, and then... well... Rhino comeback.
Love to see all the classic novels I've read over the years being implemented into the stories of the comics, the first thing I started reading as a little kid.
Nah when I heard “experimenting on the idea of super intelligence” I immediately realized what the title Flowers for Rhino meant and it felt like being slapped upside the head
Honestly I would take the increase in intelligence as there is actually more evidence to support hyper mind hyper body theory... meaning that technically he would have all those mental abilities and they would continue to grow even his artistic and emotional experiences would grow richer along with them
It could have been a side affect of the specific procedure the mad scientist did. This is just headcannon, but it might have made him more intelligent by reworking the parts of the brain that handle emotions.
He suffered from severe savantism. He was being evolved (or even de-volved) down to nothing but a supercomputer that deals in nothing but logic and absolutes.
The problem with being the smartest man in the world is you become the loneliest man in the world. You see the world in a way that nobody else can, and it's alienating.
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@@ShadowstormProducts Is ‘‘The problem with being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness’’ applicable?
@@RaxusXeronos I mean it's funny the same way seeing a super hero testify in court (as their hero alter ego). Wouldn't you need to know the person's identity for the order to take effect?
I always thought rhino was one of the more underated and misunderstood tanks of the marvel world, unlike juggernaut or the hulk his motivations are more relatable he really does seem like a friendly giant
Rhino ain't even wrong. Sad thing about being dumb is that, no matter how much you try to improve yourself, it's all people will see in you: dumb. Sadder is that it's the better option because when you're smart, everyone becomes dumber than you, so if you play their game and choose to be dumb, you can be free from the dumb that think they're smart and be smarter than the dumb by still being dumb. Rhino didn't choose to be dumb just to please others, he did it because that's what makes him happy, and you know what? That's the smartest thing the dumb can do.
@@johnathanholmes1297 Comic Book characters have altered/destroyed/created multiple universes at a whim, they can move faster than instantly, they can think something and it just is, heck, they can come back from being erased from reality and non-reality itself. Comic Books just pick how strong someone is to fit the story, like if Superman faced Killer Croc, somehow the writers would find a way to make it look like Superman struggled against the mutant, when really, Superman can lick Croc and he would be dead. Basically, yes, the writers don't care much for continuity, they just care it looks good in the end. And to be fair, lots of comics do look really good.
@@panicwolf8586 This is why I'm more grounded with series like Hellboy or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles recently. Nothing really universal busting and recreation. Just the story and nothing to OP.
Prob around 65-67-70-75 since the damages are way way bigger than tcm since his screen is the most useful but got damage and his jetpack and claws are also useful but are now gone
Barely a month - a month- after the operation he became the kingpin. Ok, no, that's just too much. You can make time jumps, give it time even if it's not shown
Omg this is that Simpsons episode where Homer tells Moe to shove the crayon back into his brain, after it was surgically removed and Homer got too smart for his own good.
The logical smart thing for smart rhino to do was to use his intelligence to get him out off the rhino suit or transformhim back to human why go back to being dumb. Its stories like this thats frustrating cause if they had made rhino back to human and given him a happy ending especially we know there's a multiverse of Spider-Man and the marvel universe.
