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RMS Gear CUTTHROAT 3 BLADE Broadhead Test

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Here's the best way to get this head razor sharp:l.facebook.com...
RMS Gear is known for making an excellent 2 blade single bevel head, the Cutthroat. Now they've come out with a brand new 3 blade head. Let's see how it performs.
I have a new test for edge sharpness and edge retention, using the Edge on Up Sharpness Tester. I test it out of the box and then again after Penetration Test 1, to see the edge retention. I also have a different test for flight--shooting one field point and two broadheads at 40 yds to see how well they group. And then I have a new overall Lusk Grade that I assign to each head--they receive anywhere between Zero and Ten Golden Arrows.
I have also picked up a new sponsor with my top recommendation for Broadhead Sharpening. staysharpguide... The support I get for that has helped me improve my channel.
Here is my sharpness scoring scale, using the Edge on Up Sharpness Testing Machine:
First of all, what are some common scores for other edges? Here are some examples:
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge takes approx 375 grams of pressure to break the wire.
A utility razor blade takes approx 200 grams to break the wire.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Edge Retention: Sharpness difference after Penetration Test 1:
10 minus 1 point for every 50 grams of sharpness difference. For example, if the initial sharpness was 400 gr of pressure and the sharpness after Penetration Test 1 was 450, the head would receive a 9 for Edge Retention Score.
#Cutthroat
#Broadhead
#StaySharpGuide
Also check out detailed vids on how to use the Stay Sharp Guide here on RU-vid at: Stay Sharp: / @staysharp6771
Discount Codes for Broadheads:
SEVR: LUSKFIVE
Tooth of the Arrow: LUSK19
Afflictor: LUSK10
Any financial support I get from my sponsor or from the discount codes is invested into my channel.

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@uvausmc 3 года назад

I'm liking the updated testing methods. Keep up the good work.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Thank you!

@CaseyHarner-v3l Месяц назад

I wish we would have seen the holes made on the steel plate. They looked like a great size chunk out of it. Out of all the broad heads you’ve done over the years that I’ve watched this one looks to be the toughest and most durable that you’ve ever tested.’

@LuskArcheryAdventures Месяц назад

Yeah, I’ve refined my testing quite a bit since I tested this head. It is certainly a good one. The durability of head is based on several factors: the quality of the steel, the hardening process of the steel, The composition of the steel, and the geometry of the Broadhead. This one is great in all those areas. There are some others that are just as tough or even tougher than this. The VPA omega with bleeders is just outstanding. I cannot remember being that durable before. I just posted that video last Sunday.

@CaseyHarner-v3l Месяц назад

Mr. Lusk, I would like to send you a three pack of these broad heads. Gonna put one order for three packages of them. I will receive two of them and giving you one of the three packs. Just send me your address.

@CaseyHarner-v3l Месяц назад

I would like to see you retest these.

@kelligroy6573 3 года назад

grabbed these a few months ago from RMS Gear, they're awesome! and their shape actually makes it optimal for field sharpening unlike other broadheads, they have videos on this

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Thanks Kelli. Well, the 60 degree bevels make it optimal for field sharpening, but the curved blades make it a bit more challenging.

@timbow50 3 года назад

That's one mean bone buster in a good heavy arrow set up. Size and shape looks a lot like an old Zwickey? head from years ago. Seems like it was a spot welded together head. Another good review.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Thanks Tim.

@charliemcabee4123 3 года назад

Thanks for your reply John. Much appreciated

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Thank you Charlie!

@Bob_Diesel 3 года назад

Dang this looks nice. Gonna wait on archery talk to get a cheaper 3 pack tho 😅

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Thanks...good plan. I just saw some for sale on Rokslide.

@uncleremus5046 Год назад

Rada wheel works perfect on these.

@LuskArcheryAdventures Год назад

Thanks

@trevormassoth2802 4 месяца назад

Looking to get a better bleed from my longbow arrows. Looking into 3 blades. Hopefully this one does the trick here

@LuskArcheryAdventures 4 месяца назад

That’s a really good broadhead. Aron Snyder helped them design it.

@tracyabbott7653 3 года назад

Another great test and another great broadhead! I was going to get the annihilator after your test on that but now I'm thinking maybe cutthroat? Lol

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Haha. So many great choices, right? Hard to go wrong. The Annihilator XL and Ozcut both did very well in my testing--I prefer a larger hole than the Ann XL gives, but they're all solid heads.

@AZHighlandHomestead 3 года назад

I’m using the VPA 3 blade. I like how easy it is to resharpen. What are your thoughts on the VPA 3 blade vs Cutthroat?

@fifthof1398 3 года назад

Pretty sure VPA manufacturers both those heads

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

They use a bit different steel. Both are high carbon, but the Cutthroats are 41L40 tool steel--a bit more resistant to impact. I did a test on the VPA 3 blade vented head last year; you can check out how it did in that test. I prefer non vented heads, wherever possible. And the tip on the Cutthroat is quite a bit more durable. I'd say the VPA is easier to sharpen cause it's slightly softer steel and the blades are not curved--but both are 60 degree blades so can be laid flat on a stone and sharpen two edges at once. The Stay Sharp Guide 344 will make either one much sharper.

@sambradley5981 2 года назад

I shot a cutthroat 3 blade through a cooler and an old refrigerator a few times the last time I couldn't pull it out and broke my arrow. Used a hammer and a screwdriver to beat it through to the other side. Used a 6 inch mill basted file and a ceramic rod to resharpen it and it only took a few minutes to get it scary sharp. And I know scary sharp I've used my pocket knife to shave to win a bet. It's a bad ass broadhead I've not taken any game with it yet but I'm pretty sure if I do my job it will too. I'm a picky bastard and will not recommend anything I don't have 100% confidence in I don't care what it is.

@user-bj7rp2ke6i 9 месяцев назад

Would love to see a head to head between these and the QAD Exodus! Seems like although they have very different designs they both perform very well. Thoughts on your choice out of the two of them?

@LuskArcheryAdventures 9 месяцев назад

They're both great heads...but such different designs and even cutting diameters. But you can compare the scores of each of the tests to see how they measure up.

@pecosray 9 месяцев назад

Thank you, I love your stuff... Great Job

@LuskArcheryAdventures 9 месяцев назад

Thanks brother

@EROCK1966 3 года назад

Well it didnt stick but what a nice piece of art

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Haha. Right on.

@josephtreadlightly5686 3 года назад

I love that tip. Convex must be for bone blasting unlike the opposite like the Valkyrie Jag that can move around dense bone, best of both worlds. I wonder if the Valkyrie wheel would sharpen it? By the way, is that GOAT arrow 34" long cuz it's a 75-100 spine & has to be longer unless u r drawing 125 lbs?

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Yeah, it's super long--but the spine charts don't mean much in super heavy weight arrow set ups.

@Loffleroutdoors 3 года назад

Would you go with the cutthroat over the annihilator? Love the videos and looking at getting a new broadhead this year!

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Yeah, I prefer the slightly wider cut of the Cutthroat. If you want to save some money, the Deepower Fixed Blade is just as good and costs only $6 per head. I have a vid test of them on my channel.

@charliemcabee4123 3 года назад

Does Stay Sharp make a sharpening system for 3 blade heads?

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Yeah, that's what I talked about in this video--and put the link for in the Description. I also demonstrated it in the vid I did recently of the Annihilator XL. It's called the 344, cause it takes a 3 blade solid head and changes the bevel from 60 degrees to 44 degrees, making it about 40% sharper.

@scottm2244 3 года назад

Maybe a review between fletching jigs would be informative. Specifically between a bitzenberger and a very similar less expensive grayling. I hear many times a year that a good jig has to be expensive when that’s not the case at all from much experience.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

That's a good idea. Unfortunately, I only have a cheap Arizona EZ Fletch Mini---and its awesome.

@scottm2244 3 года назад

@@LuskArcheryAdventures good to hear...hey whatever works and gets the job done!

@micahhwilliams 3 года назад

@@LuskArcheryAdventures do you fletch with right or left helical?

@Pnw_D 3 года назад

Just bought these for my trad bow

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Nice. I'd like to know what you think after you use them.

@jonbrown9490 6 месяцев назад

How'd you like them? I between these or the single bevel for Trad as well.

@DJ-rt5ls 3 года назад

It says on their site that these aren't sharp enough to hunt with out of the package. They need sharpened or you can pay more to have them sharpen them

@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 3 года назад

dont waste the money on the sharpening. I can get them far sharper with the stay sharp 344 than RMS gear can

@DJ-rt5ls 3 года назад

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 you can do the same thing with a large diameter piece of pipe and sandpaper. Been doing it for years

@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 3 года назад

@@DJ-rt5ls yes it an

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Yep. They were fairly sharp as you saw in my test. But I would sharpen them up for sure, before I hunted with them. I like the Stay Sharp 344 for that, with these solid 3 blade 60 degree heads.

@NPC-fl3gq 2 года назад

That GOAT is awesome!!

@LuskArcheryAdventures 2 года назад

Right? What a beast.

@virgosintellect 3 года назад

For X-bow Picatinmy rails, have you any thoughts on a SeeAll Sight ? Only way to aim it, is an instinctive hold under, like traditional archery.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Yeah, I've seen that a bit, but haven't ever really examined it or tested it.

@Smokevolt Год назад

Looked like the tip had quite a bit of runout when you rolled that arrow at the beginning of the close up shot. No doubt it's a mean profile, and statistically solid..... but how does it fly if it's not true?

@LuskArcheryAdventures Год назад

They flew surprisingly well.

@fifthof1398 3 года назад

I'm pretty sure that VPA actually manufacturers heads for Rocky mountain

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

That could very well be; but I'm not aware of it. I know their designer has helped with some other companies designs as well. I like it when companies partner up and benefit from each other.

@l00nybin 3 года назад

Two things: A. The blades are convex due to the type of cut that a broadhead makes going through an animal. It is a draw cut/slice as opposed to a push cut. This is why a samauri sword is shaped the way it is - it is used to make draw cuts and slices and the curved edge presents more surface area to make cutting contact with the material. B. The type of cut a broadhead makes is also why your new sharpness test is not that indicative of a broadhead's true sharpness. The tester is geared toward testing a push cut, not a draw cut. It will do great testing a razor blade or a knife being used in a push cut, but that's not how broadheads work. Perhaps if you hold the broadhead at an angle to simulate a slice, it would yield more accurate results.

@caninphx 3 года назад

Or have a scale under a drill press/etc and measure the force to push the Broadhead thru a medium.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback. I understand the difference in cutting. But at 280+ fps, everything pretty much blasts thru as opposed to true slicing. That's what was revealed when Slick Trick made the first (?) short blade head. I've found that out of high speed compound bows, for the most part, the shorter the head, the less blade surface area, the deeper the penetration. When someone pushes a head thru hide and measures the pressure it takes to penetrate, interesting as that is, it has nothing to do with how penetration works at high speeds. I've even dulled heads with a file and they still penetrate almost exactly the same as super sharp ones. It's really interesting. The sharper edge may cut tissue more effectively as it passes thru, but it has little to do with penetration. Edge integrity, or the lack of edge chatter, makes a much bigger difference in penetration than out of the box sharpness. The nicks in the blades increase the friction/resistance & impede the penetration. The test I do is just for edge sharpness alone and not blade angle. If there is an advantage to the blade angle then it should show up in the penetration testing...there was not an advantage in that area with this head over other 3 blade 60 degree heads.

@sambradley5981 2 года назад

@@LuskArcheryAdventures that's fine for 280+ fps but there are a whole lot of people shooting in the 240+260 fps and less range as well . A sharp BH trump's speed any day so when you slow it down it's gonna make a difference

@jesse4r5 Год назад

Dull blades and sharp blades penetrate the same on your tests because it’s shaft friction that stops them

@alabamatrout6985 Год назад

$22 is now $69.99. Thanks Brandon

@LuskArcheryAdventures Год назад

They were $22 each at the time. I always list the price as "per broadhead."

@EROCK1966 3 года назад

Im going to call it before i see it .it will stick into the concrete block

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

I think that chisel tip was a bit too stout to stick in. But those blocks are unpredictable--some stick and some don't --even with the same head.

@StickNString Год назад

Late to the show. Gonna shoot these this year out of a Elite Omnia. TAW of 520 grain. Gonna shoot either the 125 or 150 grain three blade. Would love to see a updated video on these heads with your new protocol of 2023.

@LuskArcheryAdventures Год назад

Yeah, I’d like to do it. Unfortunately RMS won’t send me heads to test-even though my tests have brought them A LOT of sales. I had to pay full price for these…and they’re not cheap. My budget is already tapped for this period. So hopefully a viewer will donate a pack…or feel free to appeal to RMS Gear to send me a pack to test :)

@StickNString Год назад

I will try and get you a pack of the two blades and three blades.

@StickNString Год назад

I’ve watched some of your videos in the past and present, this has to be best and most durable head out there.

@c3mac55 3 года назад

How does this one stack up against the Bishop holy trinity in your view?

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

They're both great heads. The advantage of the Bishop is the S7 tool steel is about 3 times more resistant to impact than the Cutthroat 41L40. And the blades are about 30% thicker. I also prefer the shorter profile of the Bishop--it is more forgiving in flight due to that and should do better in penetration for the same reason. But I do like the stout chisel tip of the Cutthroat.

@CaseyHarner-v3l 29 дней назад

John, how can I send you another package of these?

@LuskArcheryAdventures 29 дней назад

I’d love to test them again. But I have a backlog of about 40 broadheads at this point. So I would not be able to get to them until the new year. Plus, I just had two surgeries in the last week, which makes it even harder to do. But I would like to test them in the future. If you do not want to send them at this point, I fully understand that. But if you do my mailing address is 2502, Sun Grove Road, Melissa TX 75454, United States. Thank you!

@CaseyHarner-v3l 29 дней назад

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Hope the surgeries went well. Yes I would still like to send them to you.

@ThumbsMcThumb 3 года назад

Did these come factory sharpened? I bought them when they first were produced and did not have that option.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Interesting. I just opened the package and tested them for sharpness. And they didn't comp me the heads...although I asked them for some to test. I purchased them at full price so they just gave me what they are giving everyone. That being said, I'd sharpen them more before I hunt with them. I really like the Stay Sharp Guide 344 for that.

@greekmaster1001 3 года назад

Stay sharp made a specific tool for this head

@JohnLuskOutdoors 3 года назад

Naw, it’s the 344. I attached the vid in the description box.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

That was me on my other account. The Stay Sharp Guide 344 can be used with any 3 blade 60 degree head like this one or the Ozcut, VPA and a number of other heads.

@willdesorcy5868 3 года назад

You talk way to much.

@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 года назад

Well, that's what my wife says too :) Some people really want the details and some don't. The ones who don't want all that info can fast forward, but the ones who do want it can get it.

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