John your a true oldschool fella. Not to many folks know about the sharpening of blades on the bottom of a coffee cup! I love these tests. My favorite part of all these tests are the pointing out of all the little details. Just showing the head and talking about it. Gives us a good look at the product. Thanks for all of these tests. They truly are very helpful. I hope you never quit making these videos.
I just said to myself last night how I’d like to see a test of This broadhead can’t wait to watch this whole video. You put out great content regardless of what people say if compares to animals or not. Love it!
It Did about exactly what I thought it would do from 1st seeing them. I think they did pretty good in my opinion. Great test as always though! Thanks mr lusk
thats awessome S7 is extremely tough! dispite thetop tier hardness... i want a set of these... but dont need a set lol.. i have a bunch of decent broadheads, magnus stinger, TOA, and slick trick currently, oh and some magnus turkey decapitators.. haha i love that built in bevel guide also, im a decent blade sharpener but anything to make it more consistent is a good thing. .. thatnks for your always awesome reviews Mr Lusk.
I love these VPAs!!! I use one out of the 6 heads I picked up to practice with. I shoot it about 15 times a day into a self healing foam 3D deer target. Been shooting this head daily for about 5 months. I was curious how much effort it would take to bring it back to hair popping sharpness. Only took a few min on a strop with green compound!!! There was zero edge damage after all that practicing with it. I may or may not have sent it through my would fencing a few times also 😅
The word you are looking for is "micro bevel", and they work great when you have higher impact or pressure applied along the cutting edge. Knife guys do this all the time.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I made the comment right before you said micro bevel in the video, but when I came back looking to edit I couldn't find the comment. Free engagement for my error. However I do think micro bevels have a place for broadheads. It's not all that much different than running the blade over a softer strop, like leather or hanging denim. The more control over the edge geometry, the better IMO.
I killed buck on public with crossbow and VPA 250 grain double bevel a few years back. Arrow weight was 630 grains. Went thru the deer like it wasn't there and buried 6 inches in the ground. There is definitely a point of diminishing return for penetration on bone and broadhead width. Wide broadheads thru the ribs create a huge wound channel and better chance of better blood trail, but less likely to penetrate on a heavy bone strike. Its a narrow fence to straddle. In this part of the country, arrows can penetrate well and be lethal all day long, but no blood trail can also mean... no recovery. Decisions, decisions...
Neat design but i don’t like the chatter and that has to be expected with a 26deg angle. You see that on acute angle broadheads like the cuthroat. I think the regular VPA single bevel with a 35 deg bevel angle is better with more rotation and to me easier sharpening to a true single bevel head . Great tests here thank u!
I was just testing them, but they had a problem with the batch I'm testing. So I'm waiting for the new batch, coming in a few weeks. But TOTA is not one you can lay flat like this; it's just a 2 blade single bevel--pretty beefy though.
There's no doubt this head can take a beating. Couple detractors for me ? S7 and 56 Rockwell I thought would A. be sharper, B. withstand a few shots without dulling. For some reason, I questioned myself if S7 and 58 was real or not ? I've seen S7 so hard they were ridiculously tough to even sharpen they were so stout. Also ? 1-1/16 ? Make this head 1 - 3/16 and I think it might rotate more. Doesn't appear to be enough offset weight balance to spin it ? Olus we know the wound would be better. Flight may suffer possibly ? But being 1 piece, flight should be money. I'm certain this will be a $100 type for 3 heads,,,,and I think there's better options out there like Iron Will for example.
There are different hardening processes used for S7; so all S7 is not equal. But they're all high quality tool steel and will maintain edge integrity better than most.
In regards to the angled shot, has any broad-head ever had a problem with it? I can't recall ever seeing one fail that test myself but I haven't seen all your videos. My point being, if every broad head you have tested has not had a problem with the angled shot maybe there is no need for that specific test at all? Still amazed that you can come up with different broad heads to test on a regular basis. Keep it up.
Thank you for that question. Only one, after nearly 2 years of doing that test. I really don’t like that test. I only added it cause so many asked for it. As I look to 2024, I have 2 options: Increase the angle, making the test more difficult…or Eliminating the test. Personally, I see no value in increasing the angle, as I would never take or encourage such an angled shot on an animal. Additionally, sometimes those extreme angled shots are affected by the rotation of the head, and when the blades first impact the wood-not by the broadhead itself. What are your thoughts?
that front part is already pard of the blade angle from the factory... the factory never laid anything flat on the part you cant lay anything flat on... lol so it came from the factory with those angles.. youre not gonna actyally change any angles when you sharpen and remove the burr... yes you do change the edge angle on the back so you will lose a bit of potential sharpness.. i think the idea of a single bevel is to create a tristing motion when it impacts something so as to have more bone penetrating potential as it drills and punches thru instead of just punching... i dont know for sure
A solid NO for me on the VPA Omega head. It is a solid head, but not for me. I am excited for the new 350 grain Ashby head from Grizzlystik in Bohler K340 tool steel. I hope they trickle the K340 to their 200 grain Maasai.
Meh kinda reminds me of the jeep truck. The wheel base is wider so it’s not a great jeep and the beds so small it’s not a great truck. Still picked up edge chatter like a single bevel but didn’t rotate much at all. Don’t really see any benefit.
You can try marking the vanes and shooting from two or three yards and then step back a couple yards and shoot again, step back a yard or two and shoot again. Unless you have some crazy helical on your vanes, the rotation will be pretty mild, maybe several degrees or a dozen degrees each couple yards, so you would be able to figure out which way the arrow is rotating from looking at how the marked vane turn with each shot.
