RMT's Mick Lynch calls junior minister a liar 15 times on Newsnight 

We wouldn't he, its all his boss does day in, day out.

Yes yes yes didn't even look at the union rep

also notice how the presenter is looking at the tory, like they are a couple

Perhaps Philp is planning to sue for slander!

Nor does he say he isn't a [censored word meaning female genitalia].

Tory program is to deceive. That’s the main policy winner. They don’t do the ‘ truth

They are all BoJo clones in being a liar!

They just can't help it can they! Lies are ingrained into the Tory party at every level these days....

@@AceBanana100 They should be made aware of the fact than the miraculously teflonesque charm that protect dear leaders does not usually protect minions .

I would have asked Lynch to explain why he's worth a salary of £124,000 ?

Completely agree - the accusation of being a liar is a cue that the presenter should ask the minister if it IS a lie - she isn't, why not?

That's because too many of them enjoy extremely highly-paid sinecures, for little more than stoking conflict. They're not obliged to do their research properly, still less to anticipate likely claims and come prepared to refute them as skilled interviewers were once required to.

What do you think those "presenters" are there for? Wake up.

a presenter is scared of upsetting them because then they won't come on their show

The BBC are told by the corrupt scum tory government exactly what "impartiality" means

Should be handed the leadership of the Labour Party immediately.

Mick Lynch and Bob Crow….. LEGENDS !!!!! Mick Lynch telling it like it is…. YOU ARE A LIAR !!! Priceless my son 👍😂

He did. He said it is on video.

@@ajmalsarwar2939 .........and what was happening on the video is not what Philip said. He is a liar.

What do you call a so called working class Union leader who has a salary of £124,000, HYPOCRITE !

@@jjefferyworboys8138 So is it your point that the working class should never be able to move up in the world and get paid more than the wages of serfdom that you wish for us to stagnate in?

@@jjefferyworboys8138 you mean the man whose job it is to help others get a higher wage? Where's the hypocrisy?

Well, you're not allowed to call it to their face in parliament even if they are one.

@@buggerlugz6753 Where's your proof of what you wrote?

@@derekfox6 _I believe that he's referring to the parliamentary factsheets issued by the House of Commons describe unparliamentary language, in which, MPs are not allowed to call other MPs liars._

@@SolPhantasmagoria meaning!

@@derekfox6 meaning an MP cannot call another MP in the house of commons a liar.

Second to Bob crow

That might be so , but I would advise caution-- Mr Lynch has yet to tell you what his drivers etc are on now -- being economical with the truth is not just confined to politicians let me say !!

@@noghanson6279 Irrelevant - doesn't change the fact he called out a liar, and not just once. And note that ASLEF is the train driver's union, not the RMT - this strike is primarily about changes in working conditions, pensions and the low pay other railway/transport workers get, not so much what drivers get paid.

@@mjwilliamsb2676 It doesn’t change the fact that this is not the time to strike - this is pure selfish greed when the rest of the country is on its knees ; and who , I might add , is going to pay for it all ??? We seem to have developed a culture of running to get state handouts as soon as we encounter difficulties ! Instead of bellyaching, we should be looking East to the war that is inevitably approaching and which is totally unavoidable.

@@noghanson6279 I made no comment that suggests I am in favour or against the strike... merely commented on his calling out lies in a direct manner.

Also, what does productivity have to do with it? They are not asking for a increase in salary in a low inflation economy - it is the high rate of inflation that is driving the requests.

Productivity is another lie. How many fortune 500 companies don't see any growth yet continue to pay their exec's millions in bonuses and shares???

And they are being more productive! A single worker is doing more than what a single worker was doing in that industry and the capital generation for these companies per worker has increased! Rather than rewarding this or even just keeping up with inflation they are getting pay cuts? It's ridiculous.

Here here!

Mexico has increase the minimum wage in 70% in the last three years, whislt achieving record direct investment into the country... the Neoliberal capitalist lies of productivity are there to make the rich people richer

Isn’t accountability a two way street how can can Phelps tell nothing but lies in the house

@TERRYKOPITE1 that's all they do - but there's a rule against calling them out for it apparently. Should have populi vox against them and what they spout - because we did vote them in. Abstinence of accountability harbours corruption. And its rife thsi day and age.

Anyone underestimating The HOOD will mercilessly be defeated .

mitch lynch for prime minister...oh wait, the great british public likes liars, corrupt, inept, immoral politicians to tell them what to think and what to do...I guess it's not going to happen

He's just being TRUTHFUL.

Is he? I don't think I've spoken to anyone who has been convinced by his 'working class' act, on 150,000 per year

@@giles4565 Another Toryboy who can't get his facts right...Lynch's salary is £84,000... and why should somebody who comes from a working class background not work his way up to a higher than average salary?...or is your fabled levelling up/aspiration for all also a lie? (don't answer that...we know the answer)

Mans a hero, we need more like him instead of the soppy bastards playing politics all the time, they're scum

And at no point did he even attempt to say, "No I am not" lol

And at no point did he make eye contact with Mick.

Philp's misrepresentation of events is simply contemptible - sadly, it's now normal behaviour.

yeah its all based on mirage and lies once you add a tiny little bit of truth and honesty it all seems to fall into chaos

You mean 'wreak'. It doesn't alter the fact that Mick is a legend, though. 😮

Yes but MPs are different because they are productive in their second jobs.

One rule for them...

There is failing productivity because of Brexit

No improvements in productivity from the grub MPs who are hardly worth a 0.2 wage rise! They all make my piss boil!

@@akali83 what on earth does that have to do with the wage for their primary job?

spot on the train drivers aren't the ones on strike

Hmmm theres much more staff than drivers. As they mention theres all the maintenance staff to make sure the track even exists in the first place and trains can actually run without faults.

A true argument would be what is the minimum wage level and what does each jobs, required qualifications / education and skill make contributions to GDP

So a Union leader on a salary of £124,00 paid for by these members would be taking the piss ?

@@apezzero or is it enough to live a life where you can afford to feed your family and heat your home

Tories, Labour, LibDems etc, they are all the same when it comes to not telling the truth.

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 The tories have taken it to another level though

Another level indeed. We head into a fascist state.

@@brianmoulton3093 When I first heard that rhetoric I thought it was hyperbolic, but after watching what this Government has done since Boris took power I realise that, unfortunately, it's not.

I had been thinking of running as an independent with the promise to truly represent the people by simply sitting on the back benches muttering "I don't trust you" "you're all a bunch of liars"

Jeez maybe you should be a politician! Just kidding, maybe when you grow up.

Well, at least he didn't lie by denying that he was lying and is an habitual liar

I do like wise and have to say Mick Lynch is refreshing , facts , common sense and decent .Waffle and the same script as spited by the sick PM has is Clown Parrot Talk &.is a severe case .

They haven't learned anything from the pandemic. It's just reverted back to previous mindset of 'don't give a crap about you'.

It's like when gammon bang on about immigrants and looking after their own, yet when it comes to actual change for the benefit of the country it's back to calling people "benefit scroungers!", "get a better job", "if you don't like it leave" the voting public aren't all there.

We do indeed. The government have got the BBC. Soon, they'll have got Channel 4.Johnson overuled his security to wave in that Russian bloke who now owns the Evening Standard. Just one of the many signs of a developing fascist state is taking control of the media. Try googling the top 10 signs of an emerging fascist state and see how many of the boxes this government ticks. It's truly frightening.

That's the job of the other interviewee. It's why they have two of them, on opposite sides of the argument. The job of the interviewer is to ask questions, allow both an opportunity to answer without speaking over each other and to make sure they don't come to blows.

@@johnm2012 But that did not happen. Wark should be asking the minister to substaniate his claims or shut up. Lynch did back up his claim on talks etc. Philp just rolled on with nothing from Wark.

Its not spineless from the BBC, the BBC are complicit with the Tory Government

@@mootpointjones8488 I only heard what's in this video, not the whole exchange, so I can't comment on what else was said. But on the specific point, no, it certainly isn't Walk's job to tell anyone to justify what they are saying or shut up. It's up to Lynch to argue his union's case and Philp to argue the government's. Saying "that's a lie" repeatedly and pointing out that he did in fact return to a meeting seems to have done the job. Philp was obviously reading from a memorised script and Lynch took him down very successfully. The feeling on James O'Brien's show today is that Lynch did a good job in all the interviews he gave yesterday, swatting away junior ministers, backbenchers and Piers Morgan like so many irritating flies.

Of course he’s a liar. Or at least an expert in double talking. Inflation in “the western world”… Switzerland 2% France our neighbours 5% Brexit Global Britain - 9.1% We’re the LAST/WORST in Western Europe!! (Eastern Europe is affected much more by the war next door to them).

Yeah, his mouths moving

@@ko6el breathing*

@@ko6el what they expell when they take in the bs

You just told a lie there sir!

you mean "because he's a politician"......

Should have been cause for fisticuffs.

If I got called a liar 15/16 times in full view of the public, ( and I was lying) I'd be mortified. That plonker sits there and just smirks .

@@darrenburns123 lt probably started off with his nanny, parents and teachers drumming 'You are a liar!' into him from an early age, hence qualifying him as a perfect choice to be a white collared criminal...l mean politician..

Nothing honest about him, he is a liar himself who has a communist political agenda. His boss (who has carefully avoided the spotlight) is a prominent card-carrying communist. This country would be a better place if the RMT union leadership were lined up and shot.

You better ask the puppet masters first methinks.

He is a communist, he would make an appalling PM, and given the brazen lying that has consistently done during this pathetic, greedy, politically motivated strike, he would likely be more corrupt than the current government by a long way. Communists talk a good game, but are completely disconnected from reality and are only capable of negative action as their entire ideology is built on hate and envy.

@@alex29443 correct in all you said, they play on the rank ignorance of the population.

@@alex29443 same as the current incumbents and all those waiting in the wings (i.e. opposition). Let’s have a good dose of anarchy, or a dictator maybe., eh?

@@adriancoppin977 How about we stop giving a shit about the private lives of politicians, and focus on intelligent policy designed to achieve measurable outcomes, and not get sucked into a pointless class war like the communists here want us to. Left, right, centre, I don't care if our politicians are doing every drug under the sun, with their sons and daughters, buggering prostitutes and farm animals, so long as their policies have a clear objective and they run a stable government that is non-corrupt.

Also why (with the aid of computers) produce 10 times the construction calculations my dad did but get payed in real terms half as much?

I don't know, I think it would have been just as satisfying to see Mick Lynch sit there politely and at the end say, "That's all very well and good, but the problem is that's complete bollocks. And here's why..."

@@nowttodowithme "Sorry, that's all we have time for now."

@@davidwuhrer6704 Yup always 🤣 BBC journalistic techniques

Certainly not have to apply for Universal Credit. When full time working needs supporting by benefits, it is clear that Government and policy have failed spectacularly... Or gone exactly to plan? 🥗🐢🐇

@@charlielynes yes there is something wrong when the government is topping up wages for full time workers.

It's not how long you work, it's what work you do and if it's low skilled, low value, easily replaced, you will always be a low earner. Get better qualified if you want to earn a decent living.

@jjeffery worboys Nonsense, anybody who gets up and goes to work should be paid enough to live. Notice how you don't call out the exploitation by employers but degrade workers by saying"get a better job" delusional.

It's not in the script to put actual pressure on tory MPs.

"All rules were followed at all times" "But the parties continued until 4am and the cleaners complained there was vomit in the corridors?!" "Rules were followed at all times"

We don't have to imagine it kev. That's exactly what we now have.

Imagine the Pope being Catholic

@@canny_linguist Imagine the Queen being a Prod.

like that your right its hard to believe

not on the BBC.. there was a time on the BBC - when the interviewer would have followed through and asked "so what is the truth then - are you denying what Mick Lynch has just testified to ??"

No it's not, it was an ignorant diatribe aimed at capturing the moment for leftwing opportunity! Nothing more, nothing less, just hatred!

And this my friend is why I will never ever vote Tory,NEVER!

@@daveduck4315 promise?

@@daveduck4315 I will never vote Labour or Tory or LibDems. They're all liars.

@@derekfox6 if I do,it would be a first

100%

Why trust a Union leader who is paid £124,000 a year and is a millionaire ?

It’s Mick Lynch, jsyk

Power is taken, rarely given.

Well said

@@sajidraja1026 Many thanks. Solidarity.

He isn't even a junior _transport_ minister. I assume Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox weren't available for comment.

@@johnm2012 _That is an excellent observation. And that provides an even stronger ability to distance the government from his comments, should they feel the need to._

"Very cunning indeed" I feel like there's a T missing from somewhere in that statement.

Doesn’t matter cos at the end of the day racism is one ring that rules them all for their voter base. That’s where our politics is at the moment racism vs anything and everybody else

Seems to be the norm in British politics, just a bunch of people clawing their way up a ladder, with the people at the top taking their pick for who is going to be the next scapegoat or distraction.

I guess Tory MPs are paid for producing scandals and productivity there has gone way up.

Yarrr! Totally correct. Bankers received above inflation pay rises this year also and we're in a technical recession! What increased productivity occurred to justify that? Barefaced hypocrisy especially when the BofE is telling us not to ask for pay rises while we bear the brunt of Brexit & Ukraine stupidity and they receive above inflation pay rises. Think we're fuckin' idiots..

I get that but two wrongs don't make a right as much as that sucks. The RMT are doing themselves no favours here - they are hurting normal working folk who just want to get to work - nobody else. if they get their big pay rise, they will hurt the normal working folk who use their service too as the ticket price will rise to even more ridiculous levels. They will run out of friends pretty quickly at this rate.

@@ossianx8752 you see, this is the issue, people are focusing on the pay rather than the conditions and compulsory redundancy, think yourself lucky we are still in a position to do this, the workers will only get more down trodden.

@@danowat4302 I really appreciate what they feel like - I was made redundant back in 1996 and it was not pleasant. But there was no job, I had to face reality. Lots of jobs go to automation and changing times. You can't hold back progress. RMT members are well paid and well perked. This action will only serve to accelerate the their demise and if the union was actually acting in the best interests of their members it would be looking at the issue of automation and trying to find new avenues of work where jobs will inevitably be lost. Unions have to change and they can't hold the public to ransom like they once did. the public will turn on them, especially if they are relatively well paid. I remember going for a beer about 15-20 years ago with a tube driver and I was astounded at what he earned and he was in the pub because he had a months holiday straight! He also had a gold plated pension and was easily the richest man in this country pub. The unions have to walk a tight rope - they need to get their members a fair deal, but they also can't price their members out of the market, they also need to flexible enough to see that some jobs will go. They will go the way of the miners if they charge in brashly making splendid demands.

I've got no idea what Labour are doing over this. They said they don't want the strikes to go ahead. They have gone ahead and Labour don't know that to do now. Either go support the workers and claim the government failed to act, it was avoidable OR go support the workers because the strikes were right. Don't sit on your hands at home.

@@TONEmt148 this problem is the Tories doing 100% Can't blame Labour for this as they're not in power, just find it odd they didn't make an easy decision over it. They're still ahead in the polls and looking good for a win and coalition following the next election if things stay as they are right now

Because the secretary for transport refuses to meet the RMT. We're being led by donkeys

He was that days puppet

He's the only one who would read the prepared tory script without backlash from the tory mouth piece interviewer.

He was the junior person they could find, not worth sending anyone important.

@@JinjaNinja88 The dispute is between the Train Operating companies and the Union, not the Government.

As a trade union member I donate to Labour via the political levy but Starmer kicks workers in a trade union in the balls when they strike to protect jobs and their pay. Time to defund Labour unless they change.

@@mootpointjones8488 time to create a new Party too, one that answers to workers. Labour is so fucking undemocratic it would be banned in most countries.

@@raylast3873 Yes, bring back momentum and the ultra left and doom the country to 5 more years of tory misrule.

Starmer is a Closet Tory who is a controller of the opposition for Conservative party

The Labour Party should change their name. They're not a party of labour, maybe they should call themselves The Nice Party. Mick Lynch could start a real Labour Party.

It's the englisch press what so you expect

Typical presstitute

Even her body language showed who she supported.

She was being impartial It's her job to chair the discussion and let both sides give their position which is what happened

@@laxeystu8096 She clearly wasen't impartial

This comes from people who have truth challenges.

@@heliotropezzz333 I like that term! I wonder if to accuse a lying Tory of being 'truth challenged' would get past the Speaker in the HofC.

@@TheMogregory I think it might.

Private companies pay dividends, if they didn't no one would buy shares in them and they would go bust and everyone would loose their jobs.

@@jjefferyworboys8138 rubbish

@@jjefferyworboys8138 Which is why public services should never be privatised in the first place.

@@jjefferyworboys8138 if they go bust, good. Then we’ll be able to nationalise critical infrastructure. And no, jobs won’t be lost the government would step in and make things better for employees.

@@johanwittens7712 Yes - biggest theft in history. They're handed more in subsidy (tax payers money) now than was ever put in when it was owned by the public - before it was given away to their chums at the so called top. They're nothing more than common criminals handing tax payers money to more criminals.

Oi

Because the media are in bed with the government loool they couldn’t give a shit 🤣

She can't ask "why" but she can ask "is that the case"?

And inveterate liars.

To lie.

Because the more senior ministers are too cowardly to face Mick.

Yes and let’s retire early and go to the House of Lords for 3 hundred pounds a day corrupt

@@TheJonjay777 Absolutely 100%

@@TheJonjay777 It's more like £380 plus all expenses per day.

Kirsty Wark should find another job.

She was practically sat on his knee anyway.

Your dad would also like his £124,000 salary !

@@jjefferyworboys8138 Get real, you know nothing about steam engines on the G.W.R.