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Robert the Bruce V Macbeth... How Accurate is Outlaw King... or Shakespeare? 

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@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
Watch Forgotten Kings of Scotland at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ihwZF9U2fbA.html ALTERNATIVELY the Death of Robert the Bruce at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P_RmyYh3s1I.html
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 3 года назад
Shakespeare had it in for anybody from Dingwall.
@robertmaceanruig6291
@robertmaceanruig6291 2 года назад
Me not understand, come more Clear, we being in mi Seventies not understand. 😇🍺✌️🥃🇬🇧
@christopherwilliamjanz6257
@christopherwilliamjanz6257 2 года назад
Hi
@randyross5630
@randyross5630 2 года назад
I'd like to thank you for showing me just how Bigoted Scottish People are, and the Hatred of Ross and the clear denial of our History. Your bigotry has shown me just what I'm up against... And surely Scotland is not a safe place for me to visit if your Bigotry towards my People is so engrained in the History you cling too... Man, you're one hell of a Bigot though...
@slowpoke6743
@slowpoke6743 2 года назад
Can we get a spot on my kin the Kirkpatricks?
@Clans_Dynasties
@Clans_Dynasties 3 года назад
Your story telling is the best in the business, absolutely amazing video.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
You're too kind
@eckyflump4286
@eckyflump4286 3 года назад
I've learned more about my own country watching this channel than I did in high school history class
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 3 года назад
Walking backwards through a maze while filming? That's some quality camerawork. 😍 Thanks for another entertaining, informative, well presented, and well produced video.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
Let's just say that wasn't our first take😂
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 2 года назад
It is great to see that, in the past ten years or so especially, there has been a great and articulate push by historians to teach that referring to things of the Medieval period have an enormous diversity because of the number of cultures and the amount of time it covers. Top notch as usual, boss.
@alb3943
@alb3943 2 года назад
Best scottish history teacher 👍
@hairybattler
@hairybattler 3 года назад
A fascinating comparison. Much food for thought. Almost a meal. Great vid Bruce.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
😂
@eamonnclabby7067
@eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад
More a bacon nutty...
@JordanVanRyn
@JordanVanRyn 2 года назад
I only came across your channel and I want to say I really love listening to your story telling of Scottish history. I’m not Scottish but I have some English, Irish and Welsh in my family, but I’ve always been curious about Scotland. You earned yourself a subscriber!💙
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Welcome on board
@bobmaclaughlin596
@bobmaclaughlin596 2 года назад
I throughly enjoy your Scottish History presentations.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Thanks Bob
@stufromoz8164
@stufromoz8164 2 года назад
G'day from Down Under everyone. Thanks for another interesting video Brucey keep em coming mate this is one of the best ways of learning history. Cheers Mate.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Thanks 👍
@rozbrown6826
@rozbrown6826 2 года назад
Very enlightening story, told by the fountain of knowledge that is Bruce. Cheers for sharing it, my dad would have loved your channel xx
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Thanks Roz
@Kopesy
@Kopesy 3 года назад
As a proud Brit, it's great to hear some history about Scotland. You've a fantastic way of teaching, brother.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
Much appreciated
@georgestewart1325
@georgestewart1325 2 года назад
I learn a lot from watching and listening to this fantastic channel.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Thanks for being part of it
@OcculiMortis
@OcculiMortis 3 года назад
Great video Bruce, keep it up.
@jmartin0805
@jmartin0805 2 года назад
You sucked me back in with this one Bruce. I always liked how you revealed MacBeth got a bad rap. Seems to me the most purely Celtic King out of the bunch as well, for the sake of the fun debate. He might be my personal favorite.
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 2 года назад
I think you tell history in an excellent way.
@DameMitHermelin
@DameMitHermelin 2 года назад
Perfect depiction of today's fake news 😹 Your channel is a gem, thank you! Just started watching you a couple of days ago, I sometimes have to listen twice, but I'm slowly getting used to your wonderful accent.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Welcome on board. There are normally subtitles
@fearthekilt
@fearthekilt 2 года назад
Once again you have told a wonderful story!
@GreerILuvMerica
@GreerILuvMerica 2 года назад
Loving these!
@eamonnclabby7067
@eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад
As always very interesting and informative, my son is now viewing your channel, thank you for sharing this with us ,best wishes from the wirral...E
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Yay
@EKcyclist
@EKcyclist 3 года назад
Brilliant video, Bruce. It really demonstrates that stories are very powerful and that modern social media is just an extension of what’s been going on with facts for centuries.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
True
@brentwallace7096
@brentwallace7096 2 года назад
this was a very interesting video. thank you, Bruce for such a great presentation. until I started watching your videos, I never realized that Macbeth was actually a real person. yes, we studied Shakespeare's Macbeth in school, but there was no indication he was a real person involved in Scotland's history. again, this is a very great video. thank you.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
You're welcome
@garyhenderson1897
@garyhenderson1897 3 года назад
Love the channel Bruce, I’m doing history at Edinburgh uni if you’re looking for a job big man 😂
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
🤣 A bit above my payscale
@johnandrewgreen57
@johnandrewgreen57 2 года назад
Read King hereafter by Dorothy Dunnet
@emseebe
@emseebe 2 года назад
I learned a number of things about Macbeth I hadn't known, thank you!
@StrudlePie
@StrudlePie 2 года назад
Great video once again Bruce Lad!
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Thanks again!
@richardglady3009
@richardglady3009 3 года назад
Fun and full of history. Thank you.
@Jon.Cullen
@Jon.Cullen 2 года назад
Anyone interested in these kings should read Nigel Tranter's accounts as historical novels. Macbeth the King tells the story much as told here, and the Bruce trilogy is also well worth reading, but perhaps a little more sympathetic to Bruce that is merited. An excellent narrative in all of the books, and indeed nearly all of Tranter's works are worth a read.
@wegladstone1967
@wegladstone1967 2 года назад
What you omit regarding Bruce is the Sinclairs. Sinclair had been a Knight Templar who had survived the massacre and mass excomminication of them on Friday 13th October 1307. He had thus fled and offered his services to Bruce being also excommunicated and was instrumental in aiding Bruce at Bannockburn in 1314 and was richly rewarded thereafter. He had huge connections in Jerusalem. Orkney and Trondheim, including a private navy with which there is some evidence (carvings at Foslin Chapel) that it even extended to North America.
@johnjiv5790
@johnjiv5790 2 года назад
St Clare , the hidden hand...
@jimross7648
@jimross7648 3 года назад
I had figured MacBeth for about 20 years but only cause of hints you left in other video's. I also figured Bruce for about the same. The one thing that is striking is how and who wrote about these kings, has shaped popular opinion about each man. In the right hands with a passage of time Luke Skywalker from his ancestral home in Skyfall could be the most popular king anywhere, or am I mixing up my movies.
@Maniac3124
@Maniac3124 2 года назад
Once again another class video ive got a good few people watching you now class
@andrewrenwick6485
@andrewrenwick6485 2 года назад
That’s was fascinating and offered a comparison that I never thought about, so my vote goes for the ‘Bloody Bruce’ rather than the more peaceable MacBeth….. great content, thanks so much for posting. Who’d have known that Englands Barn was a prototypical Sun reporter…
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
🤣Barn
@fester73666
@fester73666 3 года назад
Another great video bruce 👍
@Tsoiugidali
@Tsoiugidali 3 года назад
Genius as always. Many thanks!
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
You are too kind
@williammorrison5678
@williammorrison5678 2 года назад
Great job again. Thanks
@charlesdriggers199
@charlesdriggers199 2 года назад
Well....We have two kings here that had some blood on their hands. R the B seems to have a little( lot) more . This was a great illustration of the two.
@rlwalker2
@rlwalker2 2 года назад
Love your stories.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Thankyou kindly
@KidThomsonMediaProductions
@KidThomsonMediaProductions 3 года назад
Hope you do a video on the stone of scone
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pSGeZfKQGTg.html
@gofigureme5749
@gofigureme5749 2 года назад
Very enlightening!
@stephaniemaloney4324
@stephaniemaloney4324 2 года назад
Your info is detailed and digestible. What are your sources? Where do you get all these fun facts and insights?
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
I read both Fiona Watson's books on the subject as well as many others. I've done shows about both characters at Edinburgh Fringe
@billythehut
@billythehut 2 года назад
I received my "Tha mi an dòchas gum bi latha math leibh. Tìoraidh an-dràsta.” sweatshirt from your shop in the mail today! thank you
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Yay
@kennethmacgregor-Gregorach
@kennethmacgregor-Gregorach 3 года назад
"If anyone deserves the title of over ambitious murdering usurper..." If that's the case my vote's for Longshanks.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
To be fair I hadn't even given him an entry to the competition
@kennethmacgregor-Gregorach
@kennethmacgregor-Gregorach 3 года назад
@@ScotlandHistoryTours well, you were focused on The Bruce & MacBeth, I just mentioned him as an honorary candidate.🙂
@steveknott4255
@steveknott4255 2 года назад
the Bruce killed just as many Scots as Edward who was invited to mediate the succession (at first ) by modern standards they were all psychopathic mass murderers and Edward was French not English
@danielkarmy4893
@danielkarmy4893 2 года назад
@@steveknott4255 He was born in Westminster to an Englishman and a Frenchwoman, lived his life in England, died in England...you could hardly get more English than Edward 'Longshanks' was!
@andrewharper3165
@andrewharper3165 2 года назад
@@danielkarmy4893 yep, he just spent his holidays on tour in France doing what he was good at.
@gerryphilly53
@gerryphilly53 3 года назад
Interesting and informative comparison. Your presentation also throws an interesting light on Shakespeare. The hatchet job he does on Macbeth resembles the one he did on Richard III to legitimize the Tudor dynasty. Was there some favor he was trying to curry with the Stuarts and reaching back half a millennium to Macbeth served that purpose?
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
James VI had just become James I of England. It was written for him
@gerryphilly53
@gerryphilly53 3 года назад
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Thanks. Goes to show that sometimes great literature is also great propaganda. As always, your work is both entertaining and informative.
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 2 года назад
Yes
@liampaterson3424
@liampaterson3424 2 года назад
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Quite true. And a bit of sub-plot designed to appeal to James's interest in witchcraft thrown in for good measure.
@steveosborne2297
@steveosborne2297 3 года назад
To be honest I thought his reign was about 14 years it wasn’t that far out , pretty good for an Englishman . Mind you that would take it to just about where he lost the battle so maybe I’m right in any case . Also William Shakespeare was politically savvy . His earlier plays were written to glorify and justify the reign of good old Queen Elizabeth I , and her ancestors. And Macbeth to glorify and justify the reign of James the VI/I .
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
Exactly
@eamonnclabby7067
@eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад
Darn those Stuart's....
@steveknott4255
@steveknott4255 2 года назад
Shakespeare used historical frameworks to explore universal human experience and I think his characters were never meant to be literal representations of historical figures it's why he's the greatest genius of the English language
@peterkelly1665
@peterkelly1665 2 года назад
Another great episode very enjoyable with humour and history recommend o anyone who whishes a laugh ad learn at same time
@DonaldRintoul
@DonaldRintoul 2 года назад
Cannae wait for your version of the Stone of Destiny
@danliberty734
@danliberty734 3 года назад
I guessed 10 years for MacBeth. Bruce, killing his way across the land, gets my vote for bloodiest king.
@daxbruce3491
@daxbruce3491 2 года назад
He did a number on Wales too. Nearly annexed it.
@robertcurrie1160
@robertcurrie1160 2 года назад
Me & my son where busy yesterday but first thing this morning he was like 🗣️ DA can we watch that man way the cool shades that we both like, as my ma use to say "" Oh My Days "" 😂 keep up the good work 👍
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
😂 BRILLIANT
@matthewmorrisdon6906
@matthewmorrisdon6906 3 года назад
The actual truth with Shakespeare is Clan MacBeth had a quarrel with Clan Stuart in 1600. William buttered the King.
@Thetasigmaalpha
@Thetasigmaalpha 2 года назад
Shaker always knew what side his bread was buttered.
@caseystewart8832
@caseystewart8832 2 года назад
I love your work mainly because of my name and because of being sick of the insanity that the world is feeding us. Don't worry Bruce. We will stand again when Michael stands. With your knowledge of history you can't deny the fact of a hidden line.
@9a076
@9a076 2 года назад
Great video thanks
@Sandwich13455
@Sandwich13455 3 года назад
Haha,was that hand gesture a stabby one,or your opinion of Longshanks ?
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
Interpret it as you wish😜
@waynekerrgoodstyle
@waynekerrgoodstyle 2 года назад
I had to rewind the video because my eye's didnae believe what they saw! lol
@PeterWood789
@PeterWood789 2 года назад
Loved it, entertaining and interesting
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@tomlewis8429
@tomlewis8429 2 года назад
Another excellent video. Living in Moray, I possibly naturally, have a greater awareness and affinity with MacBeth. I’m still confused about the whole Bruce, independence, shenanigans though. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it just one Norman (Viking) descendant family (Bruce) supported by the settled descendants of Flemish knights, who had arrived on the coat tails of the Norman invasion, trying to muscle in, or should I say out, their own separate fiefdom, from another Norman descendant family (Edward), and what did it really benefit the Scots, freedom for whom, from what, apart from, that is, the ‘big’ men (families) who were no less Norman than the authority (King) they proposed to unseat ?
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Bruce's mother was a Celt
@jezza1953
@jezza1953 2 года назад
keep up the good work I love Scotland and its history wish there was a mcgerrard lol
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 2 года назад
Ol Willie Shakespeare knew his way around a quill and then some wink -wink.
@sipjedekat8525
@sipjedekat8525 2 года назад
You're one hell of a storyteller.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
I thank you kindly
@sipjedekat8525
@sipjedekat8525 2 года назад
@@ScotlandHistoryTours you're welcome!
@neonachas
@neonachas Год назад
The description of the Stone of Destiny given at the coronation of Alexander III was that it was of black basalt, or possibly from a meteorite, was intricately carved, and had scrolled ends to make it easier to carry, and that it had carved into it essentially saying that wherever this stone rests, kings of Scots shall be crowned. This is a very different description to that link of red sandstone quarried near Scone that spent 700 years in England, so your "or did it?" is most likely very accurate.
@Maniac3124
@Maniac3124 2 года назад
Can you do one on the battle of barry next
@robertmaceanruig6291
@robertmaceanruig6291 3 года назад
I spent years to Educate myself, to read write, left School in tha early 1960s, so turn To Scottish history, it or pen a New World for me. And that’s to you Man today I enjoy your site, thank you. And you have dvds . I’ll get my younger Brother to get em for me on net.😇🥃🍺✌️🇬🇧
@robertmaceanruig6291
@robertmaceanruig6291 3 года назад
Thank you, my Friend. You Keep goin Man. Am on a dram or two’s. 😇🍺✌️🥃🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@jamesmckay-mount8689
@jamesmckay-mount8689 2 года назад
John Prebble wrote a really good series of books about Macbeth
@glennfyfe1357
@glennfyfe1357 2 года назад
Shake what I thought I knew, good story, Thanks.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
You're welcome
@carlossaraiva8213
@carlossaraiva8213 2 года назад
I just want to say: i loved both movies.
@Halbared
@Halbared 2 года назад
Nice German accent for the reporters, good work. I read some books about freemasonry/holy shroud years ago, The Second Messiah. It touched on how the real stone of scone was black and smooth, not the big lumpy thing that went to it's real home in that London. It had a lot of stuff on Roslin Chapel.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
I'm sure
@Halbared
@Halbared 2 года назад
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Most non committal. :p
@marcsymington4061
@marcsymington4061 2 года назад
Outlaw King is an amazing movie and super accurate
@Boric78
@Boric78 2 года назад
Superb vid this.
@craigweightman799
@craigweightman799 2 года назад
I do love how you use a hand signal for a stabbing but it looks like your calling him a wanker 🤣. I guessed 5 years as king but it's nice to know you had about 17 years of peace in scotland. 😂
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
😜
@alansmithee8831
@alansmithee8831 2 года назад
A'reyt Bruce. Amazing (and why not?) It being Gunpowder Plot time made me think. Scottish King, blessed in person by the Pope, got a bad press in Shakespeare's day? Shame Yorkshire is off your radar for Guy Fawkes, what with it involving James VI and his dad having gone up in a bang nearer to you. P.S. enjoyed the 5 November video, but the Haggis dogs still needed keeping happy and showing not to be scared of bangs.🐕🎆
@jamesglass4842
@jamesglass4842 2 года назад
I love myBritish History, Scottish history is to the fore as I love my Country. Nigel Trantor books are a must. Sadly Elizabethan writers have besmirched Macbeth’s good name. So much Scottish and Pictish and Strathclyde/Cumbrian History no one knows about.
@gozer87
@gozer87 2 года назад
When I was getting involved in reenactment, I chose the period of Macbeth's rule because I found out he got such a bad rap from Shakespeare. The Bruce is much more of the medieval tyrant in my mind.
@daxbruce3491
@daxbruce3491 2 года назад
Yeah as it turns out my ancestor killed more Scotts than English. But you gotta admit Bruce was a brilliant tactician.
@maurachapman4179
@maurachapman4179 2 года назад
How Convenient!
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 2 года назад
Great stories Bruce! Not surprised that the story of Macbeth is totally different from Shakespeare’s play. He was a brilliant dramatist, but also a flagrant propagandist for the Tudors. Richard III might want to have a word or 2 with William as well…
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
True
@jlen1185
@jlen1185 3 года назад
hello mate, is there anyone of your equivalence who does videos of English history? send links if you know anyone, cheers.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
I have no idea. There's a lass does Tudor. There are probably regional equivalents down there. I really don't know
@RomanJackson-b9k
@RomanJackson-b9k 8 месяцев назад
You had mentioned a author by the name Barber, well I'm a decendent of Barber on my great grandmother's side
@stevenmackenzie1870
@stevenmackenzie1870 3 года назад
I would like to say Macbeth2-1at least Scotland stayed relatively peaceful ✌
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
I'd have given him more than that, but had to leave it a draw so folk could choose for themselves
@brodyrobertson8887
@brodyrobertson8887 2 года назад
I enjoyed Outlaw King wished there was a sequel to lead up to Bannockburn. For MacBeth it would be nice to get his real story in a movie not the Shakespeare version.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Yes
@andrejmucic5003
@andrejmucic5003 2 года назад
do a vid on Black Douglas, Bruce's helper.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Aye I must get round to it
@leonmclaren988
@leonmclaren988 2 года назад
The Logan clan who were given Bruce’s heart never made it to the east they were killed in Spain that’s why their clan badge is the heart with the nail it’s Bruce’s heart
@robertvaught6541
@robertvaught6541 2 года назад
Question wasn't James the 1st and 6th when WS wrote and presented the Scottish play. Did he mix Robert Macbeth together into The play.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
James 6th and 1st I think you'll find. He made James a descendant of Banquo
@robertvaught6541
@robertvaught6541 2 года назад
@@ScotlandHistoryTours SO yes probably so WS was attempting to kiss his Arse
@daxbruce3491
@daxbruce3491 2 года назад
Remember Bruce got recognized as king of the Scott's by not opening his mail from the pope till it was addressed to Robert the Bruce, King of the Scott's. He's a real O.G.
@Thewolverine0865
@Thewolverine0865 2 года назад
7 years was the first number in my mind.
@straycat1674
@straycat1674 2 года назад
I’ve read where it said that my clan may go back to lulach
@louisekizer6941
@louisekizer6941 2 года назад
Macbeth is a first cousin. This is fascinating.
@lexiwilliams9422
@lexiwilliams9422 2 года назад
Your attempt at an English accent Bruce 😳, better than my attempt anyway 😁
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
English? I was going for Chinese😂
@mw5549
@mw5549 2 года назад
19 years? Damn, 2 years off!
@munnjean
@munnjean 2 года назад
Aye very nice indeed ,,, we all know the movie " Braveheart " was a wonderfully entertaining piece of fiction. Sadly it implies that Robert the Bruce betrayed William Wallace. There is not a history book in existence that ever even suggests such a thing. I'm quite surprised that Gibson, who directed the movie and who had tremendous technical / historical assistance showed The Bruce in such a manner.
@vincentfoxall5704
@vincentfoxall5704 2 года назад
Macbeth was a great king, Malcolm big head and his earl of athol asked an English king to destroy a Scottish king to put a Bastard Malcolm Canmore or big head.The English king sent one of his earl's up with a English army who defeated Macbeth,the earl was Harold Godwinson.Who became King Harold.
@johnjiv5790
@johnjiv5790 2 года назад
Big Head / Great Chief . Malcolm Canmore married badly , his wife brought Normans, the Roman Church and English Clergy into Scotland changing its identity forever , emasculating the Scottish Celtic Church , ending Royal Gaelic culture , and ushering in 650 years of near continuous war slaughter and massacre as a result after a century of relative peace and prosperity . She also was the mother of 5 monarchs , quite the lady was Margaret of Wessex , far too strong for Malcom Canmore !
@Arborist5851
@Arborist5851 2 года назад
Awsome as ways
@jeandehuit5385
@jeandehuit5385 2 года назад
I'm inclined to look favourably on Macbeth (whose reign-length I guessed to be 19 years, so in that case I *over* estimated). That said, I'm not sure how closely-related he was to his predecessors. Besides his wife's claim, I'm inclined to believe he was just a powerful man from Moray; Malcolm II was pretty good at exterminating his relatives, & I struggle to think why he would leave his crown to an underaged maternal grandson (Duncan) when a capable, adult maternal grandson was readily available (you'd think it would be the same difference to Malcolm, given Primogeniture hadn't been invented yet). Always nice to see nuance when it comes to Bruce tho!
@bridgethuggett1052
@bridgethuggett1052 3 года назад
Thanks for cover8ng ‘The Great Cause’ whoch, as you know, has confused me. I am with Macbeth, he was ‘chosen’ under tanistry, and not ,essentially, an occupying Norman baron.Macbeth got a bad press in a largely fictional entertainment from Shakespeare, Bruce got a good press becuase of Bannockburn and the Declaration of Arbroath and a skillful, favourable biogrspher. Without that defining moment (funda,ental as it is to Scotland’s exiatence)I think he would be seen as a scheming, deceitful, conniving,unprincipled individual,but people are a product of their time and Scotland was a convenient place for Bruce to gain power. I wonder what Scotland would exist now had Comyn become kong. Some present politicians seem no more principled than medieval kings….
@Stephen2153
@Stephen2153 3 года назад
Couldnt agree more. The man was a villian with good paid propaganda.
@bridgethuggett1052
@bridgethuggett1052 3 года назад
@@Stephen2153 Guess with that surname…..!
@Stephen2153
@Stephen2153 3 года назад
@@bridgethuggett1052 i am perfectly objective, thank you:)
@eamonnclabby7067
@eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад
Thankfully no tabloid press back then...I read voraciously Nigel Tranters novels about these 2 very interesting Kings....best wishes from the wirral ,site of the great battle of Brunanburh/Bromborough 937AD,Wirral,namechecked albeit in Welsh in the medieval poem of sir Gawain and the green knight ..
@scottmurray5600
@scottmurray5600 3 года назад
A weekend aff ma work and anither great wee video from Bruce. Bliss.....I've even got some Czech lager for later on for christmas wae the weans(most on shifts at christmas!!). Ok, 20 years on the throne. I wonder if there's some honey yoghurt from Lidl's I can scoff as well. It's great for consuming history bites and smiling at ma maun Swagger.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
👌
@davidmcclelland2661
@davidmcclelland2661 2 года назад
10 years was my guess for MacBeth.
@paulbrocklehurst5993
@paulbrocklehurst5993 2 года назад
7 years came to mind
@kel117
@kel117 2 года назад
What's your thoughts on Dorothy Dunnets's theory that Macbeth and Thorfinn were one and the same person?
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
I've heard the theory, but since I don't delve into original sources I tell the story that fits best to me
@theseventhnight
@theseventhnight 2 года назад
it does seem to me that The Scottish Play was inspired by Robert The Bruce, it could easily be that he thought Macbeth sounded better as a title but it does make me wonder if he thought Bruce was too popular and idolized by the Scots for his victory over the English to name such a play after him
@amandagraham4254
@amandagraham4254 2 года назад
My Great Grandmother was a Macbeth. I was told that the Royals of England had a beef with the Macbeth's and Shakespeare wrote "Macbeth " to appease them.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
England?
@carlossaraiva8213
@carlossaraiva8213 2 года назад
I had been an hardcore anglophile my whole life until brexit and the victories of the current tories made me ashamed of my past fascination with england. Recently i have gained a huge love for all things Scotland. So, as a portuguese, from the bottom of my heart, i have this to say to my scottish brothers: Saor Alba!
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
obrigada
@kevthecontrarian1614
@kevthecontrarian1614 2 года назад
I thought Alexander lll had declared Robert the Bruce his successor in the event of his death but Longshanks knew that he could more easily manipulate Balliol and the Bruce's would be uncontrollable.
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 2 года назад
Ah, I think you've got the wrong Robert the Bruce. There were seven Robert the Bruces, you're talking about the fifth one
@kevthecontrarian1614
@kevthecontrarian1614 2 года назад
@@ScotlandHistoryTours if I remember what I read correctly Sandy lll was referring to a young boy and the concept Primogenitor would make the inheritance of any of the Bruce's from the line the preferred successor? That's why I've always been under the impression that the Bruce's had a stronger claim than the Balliol's. I'm only trying to get some more clarification from someone else to get some better insight because as there has always been alot of conflicting evidence.
@robsvideos1140
@robsvideos1140 2 года назад
My vote is for Bruce
@tibulcain4904
@tibulcain4904 3 года назад
I heard Macbeth was a red headed giant of a man from the hebrides. I knew his reign was comparatively good (peace and prosperity wise). Have you heard of such notions of his description? Any sources considered acceptable on the matter? I knew he had a step son with Gruoch, but didn't he also have a son who reigned for a while (and not as well) or am I thinking of his step son?
@ScotlandHistoryTours
@ScotlandHistoryTours 3 года назад
Lulach was the stepson and short term king after him
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 3 года назад
I heard MacBeths da had his main residence in Dingwall/Thingvollr
@eamonnclabby7067
@eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад
@@julianshepherd2038 there is a similar place name ,here on the wirral ,Thingwall/ Thiingvolr ,Professor Harding of Nottingham University ( Wirralian and avid Tranmere Rovers fan...) even persuaded Wirral council to have the local signs put in English and Norse...
@eamonnclabby7067
@eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад
I read that some Irish academics traced Macbeth, s DNA cluster to The province of Munster, red hair included, I believe the red haired Tudors landed in South West Wales in the third century, a current descendant Lord Stanley resides here on Merseyside at Knowsley hall...
@stevezytveld6585
@stevezytveld6585 2 года назад
You know, my Dad used to claim that our Isle of Lewis family was related to Robert the Bruce. Just casually wondering how likely he would have headed over to Ireland via Lewis? Thanks. Great video. My guess for Macbeths' reign was 3 years (give them some time to walk to the next battle, and all that). - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
@daxbruce3491
@daxbruce3491 2 года назад
Bruce did go to Ireland. He tried to help his brother conquer it.
@stevezytveld6585
@stevezytveld6585 2 года назад
@@daxbruce3491 Huh. So a hop, a skip, a quick roll in the hay, and cross the waters ye go. Wonder how many families in the North have a claim like this?
@daxbruce3491
@daxbruce3491 2 года назад
@@stevezytveld6585 Probably more than we'd like to admit.
@stevezytveld6585
@stevezytveld6585 2 года назад
@@daxbruce3491 He was a busy, busy man...
@daxbruce3491
@daxbruce3491 2 года назад
@@stevezytveld6585 well, you know, his wife was in the tower of London, and I think that's more than an area code away............... Yeah busy.
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