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Rolex Announced Certified Pre-Owned - Why Did They Do It? And The Many Questions Yet To Be Answered 

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In this video, I'll share my thoughts on the newly-announced Certified Pre-Owned Program from Rolex. I'll start with three reasons I think Rolex decided to start the program followed by a few questions I still have about how this program will ultimately be implemented.
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@edkwon
@edkwon Год назад
Now Rolex can officially double dip in their own market, awesome
@nolanwalker7250
@nolanwalker7250 Год назад
To be fair they could have been doing this for the past 3+ years . I’m not saying Rolex has been under compensated for it’s product, but getting
@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights
@@nolanwalker7250 Then they can just make more lol
@nolanwalker7250
@nolanwalker7250 Год назад
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights I suppose, but two of the driving factors of demand in the Rolex market are scarcity and quality, both of which will be affected to varying degrees if production increased.
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 Год назад
So they'll be two streams as now, those prepared to wait or lucky enough to buy at rrp, and those who would go grey, but instead give their money to rolex.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Год назад
Or single dip and just sell retails for free market prices. The incentive is pretty clear.
@WatchFanatic_
@WatchFanatic_ Год назад
I live in Switzerland and I went to Bucherer last week because a friend of mine, who works in the Pre-Owned Department there, told me they just received about 100 watches directly from Rolex for the new program. And sure, they’re still being sold for regular market prices but he also told me that most of the watches they got from Rolex are literally showpieces (from Baselworld, Watches&Wonders,etc.) and old stock, so they’re mostly unworn or even untouched and come with brand new warranty cards.
@MattyVice
@MattyVice Год назад
So are the prices of these models are not going to be roughly MSRP or leas since theyre through an AD ?
@WatchFanatic_
@WatchFanatic_ Год назад
@@MattyVice No, unfortunately not…I was hoping they would sell them around MSRP in hopes of regulating the grey market, but they decided to just go with the market prices or actually slightly less to be fair.
@MattyVice
@MattyVice Год назад
@@WatchFanatic_ so hold on a hulk (pretend it wasn’t discontinued) market is 25k; they are selling a certified pre owned for on or around 25k rather than around their price on the website of 12k? Thats bullshit wtf; nothing is resolved here, this makes the problem worse if anything
@josevasquez1781
@josevasquez1781 Год назад
Rolex is out to make even more money, they know exactly what they intend is. $$$
@rickjason215
@rickjason215 Год назад
@@WatchFanatic_Rolex will be running the grey market. They will control the grey market price. What Rolex doesn’t seem to realize is their most valuable asset is their good name. Selling at AD’s at grey market prices is going to rebound on them. I expect these grey market guys to rip people off, but a multi billion dollar company, that sells every watch they produce? Not a good idea.
@MarkBostock
@MarkBostock Год назад
It is a hornet’s nest. I don’t have a Rolex, I’d like to buy a particular model for my wife, I’ve been told by our AR I’ll need to wait approximately 4-5 years for this 10K watch. I can buy a used one on the secondary market for 12-13K, or unused for 15K. That’s life - and I choose not to play that game right now but… How would I feel if my AR said “you’ll have to wait years for this but, ahem! I do have a used one right here if you want to pay a 20% premium”. I’d be insulted, astonished and I’d go buy something else. It’s a tacky game of wealth signalling, one upmanship, and exploitation which I refuse to subscribe to.
@richardwarren2024
@richardwarren2024 Год назад
Well said, Mark. Rolex is treating their customers like dirt, squeezing as much out of them as possible. Who wants to be a part of that?
@ioakimboutakidis1090
@ioakimboutakidis1090 Год назад
Absolutely Mark. I understand the reasons as Teddy outlined, but I also don't know if folks at Rolex have fully imagined the look of an AD having a CPO priced at a premium available, someone buys it, and then the next day a brand new one comes in and is sold at MSRP to another customer? In many of these markets, it's a small world and word goes around. And if the pricing on CPOs is highly guided by Rolex, are we going to see the absurd situation of an AD offering the same watch, one at MSRP and one at a CPO at a premium? Or is the CPO price simply going to swing wildly up and down depending on stock of new watches at that same AD? It just seems that anyway you slice it, it's a simple money grab and they are willing to grab whatever they can even if it's a *hitshow at the retailer and a diminished experience for the customer
@piotrkrolikowski5903
@piotrkrolikowski5903 Год назад
@Ioakim Boutakidis some ad's are already doing it and overcharging. Oisin Omalley had a great vid on it. 60gs for a Daytona used. They aren't eliminating the grey market. They know how important of a vehicle it is for their watch popularity. Rolex doesn't do anything without thinking long term. They know exactly what they are doing. Their watches are for those with tons of disposable income.
@bdegrds
@bdegrds Год назад
There's is a premium to pay for skipping the line. Rolex are for VIP Tudor is for commoners
@MarkBostock
@MarkBostock Год назад
@@bdegrds not the point
@larrylacostjr.2075
@larrylacostjr.2075 Год назад
They did it for the money. Additional revenue stream
@timchan334
@timchan334 Год назад
Exactly and also to control all of their pricing
@kuongsam2314
@kuongsam2314 Год назад
AD's backdoor sibling flilping shops now moves legitmately to the shop front, brilliant.
@jcmuscle123
@jcmuscle123 Год назад
Now you can be on the pre owned waiting list
@betog.6229
@betog.6229 Год назад
Now Rolex can cash in on the secondary market as well. Outstanding move.
@mariog7213
@mariog7213 Год назад
Yeah, awesome 🤦‍♂️
@betog.6229
@betog.6229 Год назад
@@mariog7213 The brand wins. The flippers win. But the enthusiast loses. As always, the true costumers who aren't looking to make a quick buck are the ones getting fucked.
@jubeeju
@jubeeju Год назад
Thanks for sharing your insight about the Rolex CPO launch. Personally, I have bought several Rolex & Non-Rolex watches from Bucherer in the past. They have had a Non-Rolex CPO offer for many many years and they just wanted Rolex to give them a similar option to sell more watches. I think as far as Bucherer is concerned, they just wanted another official source of Rolex watches to sell. The most amazing thing I have found about Rolex is that since the CPO announcement, not a single one of their "officials" has been on any of the "watches" channels to explain the details of the programme.
@SuperWilfman
@SuperWilfman Год назад
Between the ages of 13 and 15, I saved every penny I could scrape together in order to buy a Rolex when my parents and I went to Jersey where I could buy a Rolex duty-free. I might just have been able to afford a lower priced model which I would treasure for every. I was obsessed because I had read everything there had been written about the philosophy behind the original concept, the struggle for excellence amongst mechanical watches, and the desire to produce something that was a perfect representation of the best that could be achieved. Rugged, accurate, an engineering triumph that was almost unique. My mother subscribed me to National Geographic. Every issue had Rolex adverts which showed watches being mistreated by steamrollers, athletes, explorers, etc. It all captured my imagination and gave me a lot of adolescent inspiration. In the end, we didn't actually go to Jersey and I didn't get my watch but many years later I did buy one which I gave to my son on his 18th birthday. A perfect piece of engineering that I hope he will eventually hand over to his own children. Rolex used to be a dream, a value. Now it's just about money and that makes me sad. You do a great job Teddy analysing the market for watches. But so much has been lost. The company itself seems to have lost its original values. I don't know who is running it now but I am sure that Hans Wilsdorf would not be a happy man if he could see it now.
@dhruvd8953
@dhruvd8953 Год назад
I’d politely suggest you to buy grand Seiko on your next purchase. At least they’re not hounds like the Swiss watch making companies
@TruthTeller00
@TruthTeller00 Год назад
Well said Tony.
@A1K300
@A1K300 Год назад
bro if you had to do all that you shouldn’t have bought a rolex.
@Superdada
@Superdada Год назад
That’s a pretty cool story. Rolex also used to be something you’d purchase as a celebration of a special life event. A big promotion, retirement, the birth of a child, a wedding… etc. Now it’s months/years wait lists. And mediocre experiences at boutiques.
@MyCenterMyEnergy
@MyCenterMyEnergy Год назад
@@dhruvd8953 if you buy today a Grandseiko watch for 5000usd. What you think will be the price in 5 or 10 years??
@geoffreysmith4618
@geoffreysmith4618 Год назад
Nice touch Teddy incorporating the 23 date video at the very moment you say 2023! That's some mighty fine attention to detail. Great video as always.
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Год назад
I think that was just coincidence but I’ll take it haha
@Finestraio76
@Finestraio76 Год назад
The video should be longer, in order to allow Teddy to pronounce that word and to show that images at minute 20:23.
@bearasma
@bearasma Год назад
It will be interesting to see how the current price plunge affects the success or relevance of this program and the creativity of ADs in how to make products accessible. The sneaker collectors market is a fascinating comparison in this regard with raffles and such
@paulkinder8440
@paulkinder8440 Год назад
I can only imagine, it's Rolex wanting a share of the pre owned market prices. I'll be intrigued as to where Rolex obtain these pre owned models, if they are buying them from the public, Rolex will have to give prices comparable to other grey market dealers, if they don't then the seller will go else where to get an higher price. The only way i see Rolex offering less and obtaining a pre owned is with the lure of the seller getting a more desirable model from that AD if they trade in their other model. My feeling is, it'll drive prices even higher.
@davidcrandall4958
@davidcrandall4958 Год назад
I totally agree!
@chrism4432
@chrism4432 Год назад
Thanks for doing this - appreciated!
@bjoernaltmann
@bjoernaltmann Год назад
Always like to hear your insights
@iamthelaw69
@iamthelaw69 Год назад
Oh great. Now ADs can price gouge along with scalpers and flippers. Can't wait.
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 Год назад
Already are.
@EduardoHenrique-nd1ro
@EduardoHenrique-nd1ro Год назад
Another great video, Teddy! Thanks for sharing! Cheers from Brazil!
@truthwisdom
@truthwisdom Год назад
You’re doing a great job Teddy!!
@canonmanmart
@canonmanmart Год назад
I think one of the primary reasons Rolex has established the CPO program is to give their AD's SOMETHING to sell. For too long I have walked into a Rolex AD to find the sales staff leaning against a display case with a bored look on his/her face. This is especially true of the Boutiques, where they have nothing but Rolex to sell.
@tellmidd3812
@tellmidd3812 Год назад
excruciatingly arrogant piss ants
@grammarboy1318
@grammarboy1318 Год назад
100% agree. As far as I’m concerned, this is pretty much the only reason.
@scottlalonde2878
@scottlalonde2878 Год назад
Great video, Teddy, thank you. I see this benefiting Rolex, and the customer with deep pockets who want peace of mind that their purchace is 100% genuine. Could benefit the flipper if it ends up driving prices up. Everyone else? Nope.
@kimcoulter806
@kimcoulter806 Год назад
Thx for doing this video Teddy.
@regsantotomas
@regsantotomas Год назад
It will definitely be interesting to see how this evolves in the next few months and years. I am hoping it has a positive impact on the market as I am unwilling to participate in AD games or exorbitant second hand prices. Too many other superior options are out there. That being said, it is remarkably clever of Rolex to be able to double dip their toes in the second hand market by providing (some unknown level of) service plus adding a tag. I do, however, applaud their reinstatement of the lost & found policy which hopefully detracts thefts. I like Rolex as a brand and remain hopeful that the relative Rolex market will be of equal value & quality.
@michaeljordan6008
@michaeljordan6008 Год назад
Nothing superior in terms of value retention.
@regsantotomas
@regsantotomas Год назад
@@michaeljordan6008 I don’t purchase watches as an investment or specifically for “value retention”. I buy them to enjoy them on my wrist and not in a box. If they depreciate in value, so be it. It has no impact to me who isn’t interested in flipping them.
@lonewolf30531
@lonewolf30531 Год назад
Smart way for Rolex to adjust to the market price changes .
@philchazwill
@philchazwill Год назад
As always Rolex are primarily concerned about themselves and not their customers.
@marksayampanathan6517
@marksayampanathan6517 Год назад
Heard a rumor that this will also allow ADs and gray market sellers to check on lost/stolen watches that people bring in for trade.
@alexabney7913
@alexabney7913 Год назад
I bought a prx from you a few minutes ago and I’ve already got tracking info! That’s kick ass. Edit: my package arrived the next morning! I ordered at 2pm on the 14th and this morning(15th) a delivery attempt was made close to 10am. The UPS ppl never even try to deliver to apartments so I’ll have to lick it up in the morning from the ups site. That delivery time is simply unbelievable though. I have never had a package arrive so quickly before.
@richardbosh4522
@richardbosh4522 Год назад
Enjoy your Tissot PRX I know I do great edc watch reminds me of a Rolex Oyster Quartz.
@alfieakaronaldog
@alfieakaronaldog Год назад
Yeah, enjoy buddy. Nice to hear someone bought a watch from Teddy. I am reading this wearing mine lol. You should get a Gentleman from Teddy next. The PRX is not the most comfortable watch IME, but the Gentleman is. Best Delivery I ever had was next day (may have been morning) from Spain to U.K.
@richardtan322
@richardtan322 Год назад
I am sticking to Seiko and Omega. Thanks for the video.
@ccmccmCCM1
@ccmccmCCM1 Год назад
Yes. Very thankful to rolex for forcing me to focus on as good or better watches, Grand Seiko and Omegas.
@stevendimino
@stevendimino Год назад
Great video Teddy, new subscriber and truly enjoy your content and love the Wolf watch box I just purchased of your site. I would consider a cop Rolex only with box and papers, curios as well to see how they will control pricing. I’ve been waiting for a White Roman 41 with jubilee bracelet and fluted bezel for over a year now, have to say just about frustrated with the wait. I am now looking to alternatives so wanted your thoughts on that, possibly a Grand Seiko, especially after the video you just posted from NYC. Any comments/suggestions on alternatives I should be looking at? Keep up the great work!
@alzinifelshoni2602
@alzinifelshoni2602 Год назад
I think Rolex behind closed doors will deem new models as CPO and sell them for a much higher price than retail. This way they pocket 100%
@user-to9lk8ix6h
@user-to9lk8ix6h Год назад
Exactly, a sneaky way to get rid of slow selling models.
@Phil5150Bower
@Phil5150Bower 10 месяцев назад
Well done sir, you’ve got it 👏🏻
@leedalziel9611
@leedalziel9611 Год назад
It will help people start a relationship and allow the AD to assess true buyers for collections, if a customer walks in and pays over retail for a Daytona say.. they I’m sure will be rewarded with a jump up the wait list for that Sub or GMT in half the time. I can also imagine they could offer a better buyback option on that Pre owned
@santossantos8000
@santossantos8000 Год назад
cool man you share your acknowledge about Rolex Certified Pre-Owned
@tpoz48
@tpoz48 Год назад
Two years ago, I sent a vintage (1958) Datejust to the Rolex service center in Houston to be completely serviced. I was disappointed getting it back. Overall, a good job was done. However, a terrible job was done replacing the crown. The crown does not screw down enough to be flush against the case. Considering, it cost $2600 to have the work done, I expected better. This experience has turned me off from doing business with Rolex again. There are many timepieces to choose from that are as good or better than Rolex.
@farrandswit
@farrandswit Год назад
I have found a great local watch specialist has done a better job, is more transparent, and has the personal touch when compared to any of the OEMs. IWC was the best of the bunch but it was still with them for almost 6 months.
@raupenimmersatt6906
@raupenimmersatt6906 Год назад
In the oncoming years a service for a vintage Rolex will cost you about 5k- or even more. Better get some spare parts sourced for your datejust as Rolex wont sell them anymore and you will need to send the watch to their bespoke/ vintage service department
@markburk7022
@markburk7022 Год назад
I'll just stay in my lane, got a nice Tudor GMT. Thanks for the video.
@timchan334
@timchan334 Год назад
Rolex wants to control their 2nd hand pricing so that it will be more stable and not hurt their brand…prices will still be at a premium and increase slowly overtime.
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 Год назад
Disagree. The price run ups - and current drops - are mostly macro economics driven. Rolex can’t call central bank and tell them how much liquidity to put into circulation. And good luck with crypto…
@timchan334
@timchan334 Год назад
@@WestCoastAce27 when the ADs starts to hold shares of the 2nd hand watches (might take few years), the ball is back in Rolex hands as far as pricing goes.
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 Год назад
@@timchan334 sorry, that’s BS. This program is going to be tiny relative to the total number of grey market watches for sale. Rolex has repeatedly stated they can’t bring that many new watch technicians onboard to assemble new watches; now they need even more for these inspections/maintenance. And just 1 model of 1 not very popular sports watch has 36+ pages on 1 grey market website. It’s estimated grey market is a $20B/yr industry. Rolex cannot compete with those numbers. Macro forces move the prices - slowdowns in US, EU, and CHN have already lowered prices. More to come in 2023.
@timchan334
@timchan334 Год назад
@@WestCoastAce27 have to think from Rolex perspective, their main goal is to keep the brand in Prestige level. What happen these couple of years have some what hurt the brand (Prices going insane levels and a sudden dropped). For them, they need to have some control of the secondary market and this is their approach…will it work, we’ll see.
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 Год назад
@@timchan334 sorry, terrible take - it’s not about perspective, it’s about economic reality - they’ve gotten so much free publicity - RU-vidrs readily admit Rolex videos got views over the last 4-5 years. Their Prestige is through the roof - they could EASILY sell 10x the # of new Daytonas, GMTs, Subs (and a lot more Exp IIs, Yachtmasters, etc) at MSRP. They are an aspirational brand, at a level similar to Apple, Mercedes, etc. Also, if the price swings were their concerns they wouldn’t have waited this long. And you totally dodge my pt: Rolex will not buy enough watches (AND be able to refurb them) to move the price needle. Did you see the outrageous prices the initial pieces at Bucherer in GER are listed at? Way over grey! You really must think Rolex mgmt is stupid (they’re not) if you think they’re going to buy tons of watches, spend $$ on refurb, then watch them languish in ADs.
@jackpertierra
@jackpertierra Год назад
It’s going to be like those stores that resell shoes. Yeah it’s there but buying from independent sellers will always be cheaper. Might be nice for trade ins tho
@999NINE99
@999NINE99 Год назад
This corners the market for them. There is no question as to the authenticity this way. Customers will more likely buy CPO from ADs than buy in the open secondary market.
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Год назад
I am still unsure about how much of premium they can demand. There are good sellers in the secondary market that have stellar reputations. If we are talking 15-20% more than market for CPO that is sizable in its difference.
@YT-xf1cy
@YT-xf1cy Год назад
How about Rolex is using CPO scheme to legitimize AD tactics of building up a purchasing history? Instead of pushing other brands to build up a purchasing history, Rolex is providing a pathway for the AD doing the same but with CPO Rolexes.
@pgblack3294
@pgblack3294 Год назад
I've heard the watches are the display models sent back, refurbished and sent back to the AD. The first question asked when the AD gets a chance to buy the watch is, "What is the serial number" and they have access to the lost and stolen data base and will refuse to take it if it is. Also had an AD "allude" that they think that used market people will call them to see if the watch is on that list and use that as a purchase / no purchase guide from the one trying to sell to them. True, or just more Rolex uncertainty?
@redstarred8327
@redstarred8327 Год назад
Hello Teddy. In your opinion, what will be more collectible in the future? The Palm Green dial or Slate Wimbeldon? Thank you!
@fadibousamra8973
@fadibousamra8973 Год назад
This has a lot to do with the exhibition only models. They are going to take those well handled models refresh them and sell them under the new program.
@cedshred1676
@cedshred1676 Год назад
It will prop up secondary prices. CPO models are already selling at a premium to other used watches. In addition, Rolex Service Centers are rejecting warranty claims on watches purchased in the secondary market, so that will be an additional benefit that might justify higher CPO prices.
@bearasma
@bearasma Год назад
I am also worried abiut the slow rollout and growing pains of this program versus the 3 year limit. Many models will be inelligible by thebtime the CPO becomes mainstay.
@hubertbonisseur3190
@hubertbonisseur3190 Год назад
Rolex may want to get hold of many Rolex watches on the secondary market, add the CPO certification and increase their prices. Purposefully or not, it could be a way to increase the prices of their watches on the secondary market, which have been plummeting recently, and hence boost the demand for their watches.
@jamesdyer1983
@jamesdyer1983 Год назад
I think it should be very similar to a vehicle certified pre owned program. For a watch to be eligible it has to be within a certain age (
@davidcrandall4958
@davidcrandall4958 Год назад
cost
@floya85
@floya85 Год назад
Love the jacket, Teddy😎
@farrandswit
@farrandswit Год назад
Great video Teddy. Overall I think this is a good move by Rolex. There will be growing pains, but I see it morphing into a good way for Rolex to somewhat reel in the resell pricing of the
@JCleggy
@JCleggy Год назад
How will prices go down now that Rolex is now making money off the used market?
@tchmarketing
@tchmarketing Год назад
@@JCleggy Rolex ADs follow their rules, both official and unspoken. I see Rolex having guidelines, that they can enforce directly and indirectly, which will help them control the pricing of CPO models under 3 years. The pricing will organically(may take a yr or 2) find it's sweet spot where Rolex gets the cut they are missing, the ADs have a new product they can offer that is not outrageously priced above retail, and the desirability will still be very healthy.
@kjstewys
@kjstewys Год назад
Pretty interesting, I talked to my local AD about their thoughts and they were already authenticating any watches they were selling anyway so the only real difference is the new hang tag
@mariog7213
@mariog7213 Год назад
And the warranty
@kjstewys
@kjstewys Год назад
@@mariog7213 they service every used watch through Rolex which comes with a warranty so no difference there
@aliakbari1788
@aliakbari1788 Год назад
Hey teddy!!! Reaching out to you from Sydney Australia. I know you’ve done some great videos on the reverso. Any chance you can do a video on the new Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Tribute Duoface Calendar Q3918420
@TripleDDDD
@TripleDDDD Год назад
Rolex just announced that they build a new factory in Switzerland. Budgeted at 1 Billion, 2000 people will work there. My take is that with more production the 2nd market prices will drop. When they have thheir hands in the 2nd market they are more capable to influence prices.
@sc1
@sc1 Год назад
We don’t know their plans for the new factory. Maybe it is to have better manufacturing equipment and they might tone down production in the old factory.
@brianpercival1829
@brianpercival1829 Год назад
Excellent video presentaton. Straight forward information, no annoying music over you talking. As a hobbyist watch repairer horologist for 20 years I have seen real Rolex watches in Pawn Shops but not as cheap as I would like. It was getting hard for me to know all the models and what to look for with regards to replica watches. I don't mean the $500 replicas, the $2,000 ones are hard to tell the difference. Same for the Pawn Shop owner who does not deal with replicas. This program will eliminate the guess work. Buy a certified watch from an AD and save a few $$$$$$ with a preowned over brand new. But I do have a fear of parts being withdrawn from the market to repair preowned. In house repairs and certified only. We see the battle for Rights To Repair in a lot of items from cell phones to farm equipment. Watches Like Rolex or Breitling or Omega etc could do the same to keep their watch prices stable through this coming recession. I might have a hard time finding watches and parts for them.
@planecrashcorner7283
@planecrashcorner7283 Год назад
The Right to Repair aspect is something I haven't thought about, but is a major possibility, and would be a huge bummer if true. Aw shucks
@jacobbwalters8133
@jacobbwalters8133 Год назад
Preowned will still likely trade over MSRP
@jamesyork3908
@jamesyork3908 Год назад
Pre-owns from the CPO program are more than retail, and in fact more than the grey market dealers pricing. You are getting no discounts here. Only a warranty for and added premium.
@derosa1989
@derosa1989 Год назад
@@jacobbwalters8133 exactly, the ones for sale on Bucherer are 30% higher than even grey market dealers, approximately double the new msrp.
@cos-9113
@cos-9113 Год назад
@@jacobbwalters8133 Prices already set in Europe and significantly above the current market, but also pretty much sold out already…
@tonykavla787
@tonykavla787 Год назад
Good! All these high end manufacturers should do this
@gabestreety2776
@gabestreety2776 Год назад
Anyway you can make a video on small details and finishes that the entry level watch enthusiast can start to appreciate more of just getting into the world of watches and not getting upset from seeing people around you with watches way more expensive then what you can afford and learn to value the pieces you have. I work in a hospital and see alot of higher end watches.
@kjakan79
@kjakan79 Год назад
The CPO prices is way above the grey marked. Would rather buy a full set from a trusted second hand dealer. Then send it in for service and get the service document.
@curtiswood8010
@curtiswood8010 Год назад
I am currently working with my AD on getting an Explorer 36- 124270, but would love to get my hands on a 39- 214270, (but the grey market prices are still double original retail). Right now, they cant give me any info on when I could get a watch, and the AD basically told me that it could be over a year....for an explorer. If Rolex gave me an opportunity to spend say 1500-2k more to get a discontinued, pre-owned 39mm from an AD, with the same warranty, QC, experience etc., I would jump at that. I think this will be a huge success for Rolex.
@markreynolds9135
@markreynolds9135 Год назад
Rolex certified pre-owned inventory currently at Bucherer are much more expensive than what can be found through many grey market dealers.
@seaguls9974
@seaguls9974 Год назад
All goes back to where will they source the watches and what price do they sell at? This will dictate viability of sellers in the secondary market!
@14lamnc1
@14lamnc1 Год назад
I'm really only curious about what prices the AD"s will buy back the pre-owned watches from the customers are.
@GailitisPrintmaking
@GailitisPrintmaking Год назад
As Oisín O Malley said in his video, those are the Rolex on display models re-furbished.
@tapirdeaalex7104
@tapirdeaalex7104 Год назад
I want to know how is this better for us, the consumers ? Not counting the hype-beasts and the people that want to put the watch in a safe for the "investment", how is this better for the ones that actually like the watches and are not flippers ?
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Год назад
I am not sure it actually is. It could be depending on how Rolex rolls this out but we could just be looking at the money shifting hands. This 3 year window should in theory slow down the opportunist flippers but we will have to see.
@Akj6zmdteuxze
@Akj6zmdteuxze Год назад
I dun think that’s the intention of rolex. Ur well being is least of their concern buddy. It’s all about maintaining the prestige / desirability of the brand . Watch industry is not like the financial industry where ethical actions are expected or regulated/ governed by any regulator hence you can expect rolex to continue to act like this way. The way to beat this game is to walk away. No manipulation lasts forever and when it collapses you can enter like a king . For now, spend ur money on the brands that deem as a valued customers
@TruthTeller00
@TruthTeller00 Год назад
@@Akj6zmdteuxze Will it ever collapse though? Rolex is a trust ran by six lawyers, the brand is over a century old.
@Akj6zmdteuxze
@Akj6zmdteuxze Год назад
@@TruthTeller00 u must be new to the game . No manipulation will last forever. Watch market gets affected by general economy too. If u put aside 2017-2021, watch prices been declining badly. There’s many articles talking about the dying of Swiss watches back in 2016 till Rolex played the manipulation game. There is a limit to everything and there’s always a cycle to it. We r at the end stage and it will go thru a decline for a while before the cycle repeats itself. A year ago I said the watch market will collapse, till now some ppl still trying to down play it and termed it as soft landing or correction. Hahaha. The only reason why there is a slight rebound is because the grey dealers are trying to hold the prices hoping that people will spend like before. Right after the festive season, get ready for another round of decline. Rolex can be appealing , but at the end of the day, a rich man (being rich) knows what’s best for each dollar that he spends. To buy things at premium and at this moment doesn’t make sense (those temporary and dumb rich men have already died with their bitcoins and diamond hands , probably verge of bankruptcy) 2023 is the year of death of grey dealers. Rolex will do just fine given that any customers would still buy some models at retail price.
@TruthTeller00
@TruthTeller00 Год назад
@@Akj6zmdteuxze So my local AD will put me on their waiting list no problem just now with that in mind?
@alejandrocaraballo1690
@alejandrocaraballo1690 Год назад
I got my first rolex a year ago live in small city in Tennessee got a 126610LV from ad went in once a month chit chatted learned about watches tried them on enjoyed them, got my watch in 9 months. All about relationship and not being a flipper.
@pacojr7507
@pacojr7507 Год назад
For the buyer is also a matter of trust. Trust on the product and on the seller
@KVDC2008
@KVDC2008 Год назад
Since the secondary market for in demand models are selling at a much higher premium than the official authorized retail price, how is this going to look if a watch retails officially for $12,000 that is not available for sale, but the AD has the exact same CPO version for sale at $20,000? It's one thing for gray market dealers to sell at higher prices, but for the Rolex AD to partake in the pricing mark up is kind of screwed up....
@wannabe_sailor_777smith6
@wannabe_sailor_777smith6 Год назад
Teddy, do you think this will lead AP and Patek to follow suit ? And, where are the select AD's going to get their pre owned supply ? BTW, when are you and Courtney going to tie the knot. Love your channel.
@brockadcock2735
@brockadcock2735 Год назад
Hey Teddy. Hope you and yours are doing well. Just wanted to mention something. It would be cool you and TGV The Urban Gentry worked on some content together. You're both so well spoken and funny. Cheers
@BBHorology
@BBHorology Год назад
Bought and collected Rolex for 20 years! I only buy new from Tourneau-Bucherer or Wempe. And when it’s pre owned Bob’s watches all the way! 😊
@MrHalimblack
@MrHalimblack Год назад
Do you think the watches will be closer to retail prices or still subject to second market prices?
@JeffreyOrlowski
@JeffreyOrlowski Год назад
Great video and nice move on waiting out the “hysteria” of the move. So…how will an AD authenticate a watch for a trade? Seems like a process that would require either the AD to bring in a watch maker to authenticate or trust an outside process prior to sending to Rolex. Or will Rolex authenticate prior to approving a trade? Seems like a lot of extra work for an AD. Maybe? Or, will the watches sitting in the display case be the only watches that are used as preowned and trade-ins will be treated as is? I mean Tourneau takes pre-owned Rolex watches as trade and sells them in their pre-owned shop. Just missing the box and tags. Just a lot of confusion for people who can afford a Rolex, can appreciate owning one and just freaking want one.
@calvinchann1996
@calvinchann1996 Год назад
If I were to ever buy another Rolex, I wouldn’t pay over retail. But there are so many great watches out there that aren’t a Rolex.
@leadsled213
@leadsled213 Год назад
Firstly, how will Rolex or ADs get hold of Pre-owned inventory? I doubt people will give up their watches for less than secondary market values. I believe people are okay paying more for a pre-owned Rolex in the "Grey Market", knowing they don't have to play the games of the AD and "sticking" it to Rolex in the process. If Rolex can keep the prices within reason, maybe it will open the market to people who actually want the watch for what it is, and not just owning "something expensive" or an "investment".
@ryanthomas9306
@ryanthomas9306 Год назад
Luckily my dream grail watches are speedmaster, seamaster seaweed, tudor chrono in two toned
@bearasma
@bearasma Год назад
The 2 key laymans issues I see are will pre owned be priced under/over retail? And will this make owning a pre-owened as hard and painful with the AD
@LimitedWard
@LimitedWard Год назад
Guaranteed they will sell them above retail. What incentive would flippers have to sell their preowned watch to Rolex otherwise? And Rolex also has a vested interest in keeping the secondhand market above retail.
@bilalhouri
@bilalhouri Год назад
Excellent video, but I always wondered what timepiece you're wearing. Can you start your videos by quickly sharing "today's timepiece"?
@CHASI146
@CHASI146 Год назад
Hi Teddy, the watch wearing in this video is Grand Seiko Snowflake GMT ?..Please let us know
@eflizotte
@eflizotte Год назад
great video Teddy! check the black shirt on black background... makes for a floating head
@ganonymous6997
@ganonymous6997 Год назад
How about the price? Will there be a difference?
@guitarjunkie117
@guitarjunkie117 Год назад
It's a simple growth strategy by expanding into an adjacent space i.e. the secondary market. Rolex is able to thus capture share of the profit pools with lower operating costs (since they don't need to produce a watch again). They effectively increase the unit economics per watch and can justify the operating expenses of the pre-owned program based on just the volume of secondary watches. Net net, it's massively (and positively) impacts the company's valuation
@guitarjunkie117
@guitarjunkie117 Год назад
Is it about controlling the price of a rolex? Maybe but there are cheaper ways for Rolex to do this. This is fundamentally about growth
@ScoobieDoobie197474
@ScoobieDoobie197474 Год назад
So where does the boutiques get all these watches to start with? All those watches that were in the ADs that you could try on but not buy.
@mojoriden
@mojoriden Год назад
Diamonds are basically worth pennies but debeers controls the market. Rolex thought that was a pretty good approach. "I'd like to look at a new GMT it says its 10k?, hmmm we dont have any but would you like a used one for 25k?"
@kevinr206
@kevinr206 Год назад
So they can sell a new watch to the wait list, buy it back the next day, then mark it up and sell preowned, awesome!
@als1668
@als1668 Год назад
I don't know if this will change much if their scummy business model of roping you into buying other jewelry before getting a rolex doesn't change as well. Love the content brother
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre Год назад
Thanks for watching my friend!
@timgenter1264
@timgenter1264 Год назад
That's not the Rolex business model, it's the local AD doing that. Rolex tries very hard to prevent this but at the end of the day its the jeweler.
@als1668
@als1668 Год назад
@@timgenter1264 ah I see, I wonder if they could step in and do something about that like AP did with their retailers or if they're even allowed to
@MyCenterMyEnergy
@MyCenterMyEnergy Год назад
Another good strategy from Rolex. Which watch brands you can invest today and in 5 /10 years going up in price ??
@istvantoth7431
@istvantoth7431 Год назад
Hell yeah! Take us back to Rolexland Teddy!! 👑👑🤌🤌
@sadida011
@sadida011 Год назад
Positive competition is good
@wallpaper000
@wallpaper000 Год назад
With this program, now you can walk into any AD, choose your model, and purchase your brand new Blancpain... or Lange...or JLC.....or...
@mlu007
@mlu007 Год назад
Nineteen years ago, an AR me a 15% discount on a brand new Submariner. Times have changed.
@robdent5889
@robdent5889 Год назад
I’d love to own a Rolex but there is no way I’d ever pay the prices they require … even at retail. Micro brands for the win. They’re more fun anyway.
@mailmeabhilash
@mailmeabhilash Год назад
I think this will devalue the watches from non authorised dealers. While also reducing the incentive to resale a watch to outsiders. Don't phone companies do that? You can trade in your phone for a newer ones but loose considerable value and resale values are like lowered because of it.
@nfavor
@nfavor Год назад
What's the website at 6:14 that shows the price history?
@VMIyanks04
@VMIyanks04 Год назад
I think it makes sense for them to do CPO, but unfortunately I don’t see this as helping the watch enthusiast that wants to get a Rolex at a more reasonable price. I think this helps Rolex get more of the general public that just wants a Rolex for the name and show of wealth/status.
@smaug1201
@smaug1201 Год назад
Where will they get their stock?
@David-nx2vm
@David-nx2vm Год назад
Great video Teddy and I think you were prudent to wait a bit until some of the noise died down. I think for those who can’t or won’t wait for the AD call to purchase new at retail, this is a good way for buyers to make what they see as a risk-free purchase compared to Chrono, FB, eBay, and the like. My wife and I both have Rolex in our collection, new at MSRP through ADs. The only way I would deviate from that is for something discontinued or vintage I just had to have.
@alannoonan875
@alannoonan875 Год назад
Question.. has anyone heard of a Peerson PR-540? My friend was gifted one and there is no MSRP on the world wide web
@javierestades2603
@javierestades2603 Год назад
The main advantage is that a Rolex owner will be able to trade his/her current Rolex at an AD to buy another piece. The might be willing to do that as a discount Vs great market
@wayneskipage7359
@wayneskipage7359 Год назад
I think they have the long game in mind. I suspect they are in the market now hoovering up cheaper stock and just holding it, and as time moves on they plan to create a benchmark in-store and online experience that will be more desirable than dealing with the current batch of traders. When the model is globally entrenched, they will control the secondary market pricing to their own ends. They have the deep pockets to invest in the starter model now, and to invest further over time. Its very smart business. Oh and one more thing - if they got on the limited edition band wagon, they could use this secondary market mechanism to hold back stock and release rare models at higher prices through the programme.
@stephenbaumhauer2593
@stephenbaumhauer2593 Год назад
A Rolex used to be something you strived for, worked hard for and eventually, maybe, you could walk into a store and buy knowing that you'd earned it. Not now. Now they've come to represent something almost sinister...affluence, status, entitlement, superiority...I have a couple from years back before we'd all lost our collective minds about them but I never, ever wear them anymore. I feel like a complete tool whenever I even put one on. So, whatever Rolex does in the pre-owned market, I could care less. They're dead to me.
@Uneducatedopinion57
@Uneducatedopinion57 Год назад
Don’t know if you are being serious or trolling
@elgrav
@elgrav Год назад
Can I buy your Rolexes if you no longer use them? I'm not a flipper - just someone who has also saved up for a Rolex and can't get one (and won't go to the ridiculous secondary market)!
@michaelbishop9157
@michaelbishop9157 Год назад
this is the oddest post I have read for a long time
@JakeAkstins
@JakeAkstins Год назад
Rolex could care less about this to be honest. You already spent money on their products.
@vincecruz8410
@vincecruz8410 Год назад
I get what you mean
@mskowrunski
@mskowrunski Год назад
Teddy~ Black suit + Black background = Memoji
@patrickhannon8126
@patrickhannon8126 Год назад
Probably be a waiting list for the pre owned watches too 😂
@walroz87
@walroz87 Год назад
Teddy mentioned Denmark and I lost it
@autorecon
@autorecon Год назад
Hello nothing to do with the video but Is philipp plein making good watches cause I have my eyes on the skull diver watch (black-silver) and the nobile (silver) but I am not sure about the quality and I would like to hear your opinion Ps I know that there are many more reputable brands etc with better quality for the money but I like the design and I am just asking if the quality is good enough Thanks for your time
@geoffreycotter
@geoffreycotter Год назад
good move.rolex is only trying to preserve the integrity of their brand/product.
@edgardo1166
@edgardo1166 Год назад
They are going to sell second hand watches for double the price of a brand new one?! Crazy. What will stop them from selling their new watches as pre owned to profit more?
@seansoobyiah9844
@seansoobyiah9844 Год назад
A question I have is can anyone submit their rolex to get a certified preowned card and box. I bought mines off of crown and caliber with no box and papers, could I get it certified by then without selling my watch.
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