Rolex vs Grand Seiko: GMT Master II Pepsi vs Spring Drive GMT SBGE257 Comparison Test

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The Rolex GMT-Master II "Pepsi" 126710BLRO is encased in 40mm of stainless steel surrounding a black dial on a stainless steel Jubilee bracelet. Features of this Rolex GMT-Master II "Pepsi" include hours, minutes, seconds, date and GMT. This Rolex watch also measures 12.1mm in thickness and 48mm from lug-to-lug.
The Grand Seiko Sport Collection Spring Drive GMT SBGE257 is encased in 40.5mm of stainless steel surrounding a green dial on a stainless steel bracelet. Features of this Grand Seiko Sport Collection Spring Drive GMT include hours, minutes, seconds, date, GMT and power reserve indicator. This Grand Seiko watch also measures 14.6mm in thickness and 48.4mm from lug-to-lug.
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@andreasachilleos4257 3 года назад

While this is a versus video, I think these two could happily exist in the same collection

@LeonChetsky3230 3 года назад

Indeed mr.andreas !!! Handsome watches ....

@gyang333 3 года назад

I agree.

@4liter 3 года назад

This for sure

@USS_Liberty 2 года назад

No.

@Hans-Georg_Buddne 2 года назад

No. Why would you need two GMT watches? That can not be a balanced collection

@JJPanozzo1 3 года назад

Thanks Tim. I purchased my GS 257 a few weeks ago. Wearing it on an Erikas Original strap makes it wear like nothing at all. I didnt purchase mine with resale in mind but simply bought it because it makes me smile😁 Isnt that what this hobby should do for us

@the1916companywatchreviews 3 года назад

Thanks Joey! If you have a quick second, click through to our site and write a review of the watch. Our customers love to read about real world experience when shopping on our website. Here's the link: www.thewatchbox.com/shop/Grand-Seiko-Sport-SBGE257.html Thanks in advance!

@realitynuggets6204 Год назад

Probably the best watch salesman I’ve seen on YT. Not a wasted sentence. Interesting comparison. Thank you!!

@theonlyredspecial 3 года назад

Tim you outdid yourself with this one. Learned quite a few things here. Superb analysis. I do hope you are well and keeping safe. From Ireland. All the best !

@JamesMaccarone 2 года назад

I'm blessed to own both of these and this review is spot on. Both fantastic pieces.

@CubanBBQ 3 года назад

I could listen to tim talk about watches alllll day.

@playwithalvaro 3 года назад

Good lord, that impeccable second hand movements.. I love the spring drive..

@niravc10 Год назад

While the Pepsi GMT is iconic, there is just something great about being able to walk into the GS boutique and pick up the GS257. No need to spend a certain amount to be placed on a waitlist. The sheer availability, and a fraction of the price no less, is what did it for me, even if the Rolex has stronger brand value. Plus, the movement of the seconds hand on this thing is smooth like butter.

@NeuroticLobster Год назад

I traded my wife to the AD for the opportunity to buy a Rolex. Problem is they still made me buy a two tone ladies model first to build up the relationship, even though now I have a stepson 🤦‍♂️

@photobriangray 3 года назад

I have the SBGE257 and it is so fantastically comfortable and unique. Definitely a lifetime piece for me...

@lance4613 3 года назад

Excellent video Tim, A superb summary of the 2 Watches. I have a Seiko MM300 SBDX017 and love it. Thanks, Lance.

@dademack3544 3 года назад

Great comparison. Just got my GS 255 2 weeks ago, absolutely love it. Hardest choice was which color, they all 3 look amazing. I bought a watch loupe to enjoy that fantastic dial.

@colemanhoyt5437 2 года назад

I have the SBGE255 (same but blue instead of green) and I love it. Better yet, like Tim said, you can simply buy it at retail (now GS even has an online store in the US too), no waiting, no buying another watch you don't want first. I like the Rolex, but the GS has a better case, dial, and movement, and even when comparing retail prices it costs a lot less. Rolex is a better brand, but GS makes the better watch.

@elonmust7470 Год назад

the gs case is ugly as can be.

@colemanhoyt5437 Год назад

@@elonmust7470 bzzt wrongo

@jpdemer5 Год назад

@@elonmust7470 Unless you have a sense of aesthetics...

@elonmust7470 Год назад

@@jpdemer5 Yeah, for other watches.

@patrickbrcr 3 года назад

Tim, on the Grand Seiko, what is the point of having the inner GMT hours ring if the bezel on the outside is fixed? Am I missing something?

@henrywest7217 3 года назад

A great comparo for the long anticipated return of-- versus--.

@zhizian 3 года назад

GS is just a better watch... just saying...

@WatchmakerErik Год назад

Your conclusion is so well said and I completely agree. The Grand Seiko is my choice. Grand Seikos have Terroir. They have characteristics of where they are from and I like that in manufactured goods as much as I do food and drink.

@MarcusGLovesWatches 3 года назад

Welcome back Versus ❤️

@dmark2639 3 года назад

Love the GS, but I wish they had a bracelet clasp that was on par with the excellent Rolex machined clasp. Also, why no rotating bezel on the GS?

@KLeBoutillier 3 года назад

He is right. Rolex is all about the 'wrong' attention these days, especially a big, shiny red and blue bezel Rolex. "You must be rich." "Is it real?" Etc etc. Wear it in London or Barcelona and see how long it lasts on your wrist. My quartz GS is understated, beautiful to look at and no one notices, and it keeps perfect time.

@chrisnelson1712 3 года назад

Love GS quartz too!

@Peltwerk 2 года назад

More important than that even...... You can't purchase a Rolex these days even if you have the money. Walked into a Rolex store the other week and they had empty cases. The pointed me over a nearly empty case of Tudor and Breitling. You can have the most advanced tech ever but if it can't be produced enough to actually be obtainable then it may as well not even exist.

@Aztec1050 2 года назад

I wore my Rolex in London and got shanked you sir are absolutely on point

@EnchiladaMan360 2 года назад

@@Peltwerk It’s all about artificial scarcity, to make it seem like you’re getting a one-in-a-million deal. It’s the same marketing strategy that made diamonds so expensive and sought after, when diamonds aren’t any less common than sapphires - the big distributors just want us to think they are rare as to justify the astronomical prices.

@PillBoy305 2 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂 ok

@secretsanta9046 3 года назад

What is the opinion on the SBGE263 Eagle limited edition? Will it go up in value?

@rogerdiggler6598 2 года назад

Very well done review thank you!

@marcoharrogate 3 года назад

Yes yes yes wanted to see something like this for a long time

@proper_gander3608 3 года назад

The GS is sublime. The mastery of craftsmanship is just wonderful. That case.... Great summation, I agree wholeheartedly.

@stickshifter8 3 года назад

Wouldn’t the Explorer II be a better comparo to the GS, due to its fixed bezel?

@mesomaxl 3 года назад

Purchased the SBGE257 last summer short after its released and haven't had a single doubt about the decision ever since. Wears great, finishing is pretty great and the green ceramics does amazing things depending on the light that it reflects. And whilst living in Zurich, you can imagine how many people you see showing off their Crown Subs and GMTs

@zacharyparis 6 месяцев назад

Appreciate the fair and detailed comparison. Not just another Rolex fan boy who thinks they are the greatest gift the world has ever seen!

@shuycg Год назад

Not sure about the date on a white background. Could a colour matched green date wheel with gold numerals (matched to the GMT hand) work? Subtlety wins over legibility.

@theopulentlife889 3 года назад

Tim your reviews are the best! I'd still go with the Pepsi because the GS dial is just too cluttered for me and I don't like asymmetrical power reserve indicators or 4 o'clock crowns and date windows.

@blaketaylor9317 3 года назад

Both amazing watches, but I'm prone to go GS on this one. Tough decision, tho.

@pedromolina7737 3 года назад

Looking to buy the SBGE255 as my first Grand Seiko

@SP-sl6dj 3 года назад

I like these videos 🤓 Can you do the SBGW231 vs a swiss dress watch?

@solo26sky 3 года назад

What a Great comparison video

@brandonmcneil3555 Год назад

Man, I love that GS. I've got a spring drive already (Prospex Lux), and I can not stop staring at that smooth sweeping second hand, to say nothing of the accuracy. I wonder how this would fare against the Tudor BB GMT? I mean the GS is punching above it's weight taking on the GMT Master 2, but how does it stack up against the Tudor? I'm considering both of those in looking to add a GMT to my collection.

@kishore191078 3 года назад

Just got my SBGE255, and excited to wear as an everyday watch. The thickness doesn't bother me at all. The bracelet is a perfect fit and the clasp is smooth with the right level of click on locking. The blue dial and sunburst is mesmerising and the hour markers are exquisitely GS and the cuts reflects light splendidly . The unique technology powering the watch is a pleasure to observe with the buttery sweep of the second hand. Of course I would love to get a GMT in the future if only the AD would consider selling to a mere mortal like me....!!!

@lamadoo 2 года назад

thickk boi

@AlexOsha 3 года назад

Great video - however, isn't the Explorer 2 a better comparison, given the non-rotating bezel?

@secretsanta9046 3 года назад

Agreed.

@akosbalog4363 3 года назад

GS every day and twice on Sunday!

@WatchmakerErik Год назад

I thought quartz watches were less susceptible to magnetism because it's the hairspring that gets magnetized, so the GS would have more magnetic resistance. What are the stated magnetic resistance figures of the two movements? I found 4800 for the Seiko but nothing for the new Rolex.

@asiparks 3 года назад

I get the similar size comparison, but would argue that the sapphire covered, rotating bezelled SBGE201 is closer feature-wise.

@scottwexlin6456 3 года назад

Both beautiful, desirable pieces. Considering the Rolex is almost impossible to get unless you go grey, I'd rock the GS all day. I like the size, and the bracelet. It's very masculine.

@okavipra 3 года назад

Man Rolex is really legendary , i have respect for classic , BUT MY GOD THAT GS IS NICE

@nicholasevennett8231 3 года назад

The way the second link of the jubilee bracelet stands proud of the lug bothers me quite a lot.

@ambroseathello 3 года назад

Both great pieces. Not sure why, but I've always preferred crowns at 4

@RedloxBeats 3 года назад

well all GS needs to do it better design?

@thp94001 3 года назад

Excellent video! Given the choice of the two, I pick the Rolex. To me it just looks better and all other perks mentioned in this video. In reality, I would buy both if I could.

@IANSPA 3 года назад

Rolex for the name GS for the watch.

@robertschmidt9584 3 года назад

It’s difficult not to like both. Both amazing in their own ways. I think this is to be continued (in six to seven years).

@anthonybrown6413 3 года назад

Pleas do the Rolex day date VS Omega Day date.

@AdventureCoupleUK 3 года назад

Great review - enjoyed your assessment of both watches. Rolex for me though - resale and look wins for me. Thanks.

@dcxplant Год назад

The G/S are available with a rotating bezel as well.

@mikep197 2 года назад

If you are a watch nerd like me you'll appreciate the GS more. That dial, hands, indices are spectacular and the hand finished case is truly stunning. Love the GS bracelet which is fancy without being blingy like the Rolex. And the movement on the Grand Seiko is unbelievably accurate. And finally you can actually get the GS and save a LOT of money in the process. GS for the win!

@elonmust7470 Год назад

gs is shit, boring shit at that.

@OttawaInHD 3 года назад

I like this Versus videos!!

@dr.kevinmoore8889 4 месяца назад

You made the right call. That GS is exquisite

@Kevins-Philippine-Retirement Год назад

GS, especially the Spring Drive is my ultimate dream watch brand. I've had 3 Rolexes, and now only have a Datejust. My collection of Seikos is growing for good reason.

@markleo8155 2 года назад

You can track three timezones with the GS as well (rehaut has 24 hour track)

@hansenluu 2 года назад

Now I want the GS so badly. I already owe the Tudor Black Bay GMT which is enough of a fix for GMT-Master II Pepsi. That spring drive sweep is sweeeet. and the green dial omg.

@patrickdaly5988 3 года назад

Love the GS, except for that date window. It needs a frame to hide the cross section of the dial, which jumps out and looks ugly. Unusual inattention for GS.

@mrnobody1147 2 года назад

I’ve got the sbge263 and love it and agree with everything you say in your conclusion. That being said… I wish it had a clasp as cool as the Rolex. That thing looks awesome.

@beaudoyle1063 2 года назад

If you’re ever looking to sell it let me know!

@andrewpitts2894 2 года назад

Great review the only thing I would say is that it is almost impossible to by the Rolex new at retail price.

@SPQR-Z 3 года назад

Great comparison. Owned both and if only could have one it would be the Rolex Pepsi all the way for me. However considering just how nice the new reduced GS GMT is and that you can buy 3 for the price of the Rolex really makes selecting one over the other more complicated. You can’t go wrong with either. You just can’t. Definitely try and pick the GS up preowned

@tuffguy007 3 года назад

I need to fit a watch under a shirt cuff and suit jacket sleeve. I wear a Breitling Colt which is about the same height as the Rolex, and it is about as tall as I can go before the watch can’t tuck under the cuffs. Unfortunately, the GS is just a bit too tall for practical use for me. I too am waiting for a thinner case on the GS.

@malyu6374 3 года назад

Surprise! First time a "Seiko" lost in the Lume shot! :P

@lingogringo 3 года назад

Was lucky enough to pick up a SBGE263. Great dial and case polishing. The case is thick, however, once on the wrist, it wears quite well. Not as slim as the Rolex of course but enough to not pull my attention during the day. Would love to have a Pepsi in my collection as well, only at a retail price though (so probably never).

@beaudoyle1063 2 года назад

If you’re ever interested in selling it let me know!

@lingogringo 2 года назад

@@beaudoyle1063 will do.

@logwind 3 года назад

I'm surprised at GS for not doing more with the date complication. The aperture looks like they forgot to include it in the finished product and had to add it at 4 o'clock on a Friday (literally and figuratively). The date wheel font isn't particularly attractive. The font on my entry-level SBGX061 is nicer.

@gmshadowtraders 3 года назад

Still a monster on the wrist. Seiko are still light years away from catching up with Rolex steel sports.

@lingogringo 3 года назад

The new movement, 9SA5, by GS should remedy the thickness issue going forward. The SGLH003, which has this new movement, has a case thickness of 11.7mm.

@marcrapp4004 2 года назад

GS is my choice. Love the face and attention to detail. I have a big wrist , I love the bigger width of the GS. Awesome comparo!

@bentremy 3 года назад

Bring back the “Versus” series please. Theme music, graphics and all.

@Chellfinancial 3 года назад

If they improve the bracelet and get some more lume on the GS it’s a no brainer.

@bbrebozo6417 3 года назад

Most of the 44 mm GS GMT have the lumped sapphire capped bezel...Mosso has reviewed those too.

@noddyholder6082 Год назад

Fantastic narrative. My first watch was a GMT in 1984 it cost me £680 new! It was stolen , I still love them but not worth their money now. Seiko is a better tool no doubt, but...ah. I wish I could afford my old gmt😢

@AriesUmbra 3 года назад

the seiko would be a perfect watch for me if it was the tiniest bit thinner/smaller. it's also a tiny bit too modern looking to be my only watch (which is currently a spb143)

@PukaHeadMan 3 года назад

Btw, your SPB143 is a killer watch! I like it better than both watches featured.

@jparker1901 2 года назад

Spring drive’s second hand movement is beautiful

@clarktheshark7523 Год назад

Want both, getting the GS now and still spending and waiting with my AD on jubilee pepsi/bat... The summary is spot on. I work in an industry where most clients can't afford a Rolex and it often doesn't send the right message to wear a flashy highly-recognizable one yourself. When asked, love the thought of saying I'm wearing a Seiko.

@ThePurple1968 2 года назад

outstanding review. I'd have both :D but would also prefer the GS if only one choice

@patrickhurley3705 3 года назад

I have both and love them. GMT has a rotating bezel which GS does not, and the sizing is easier with the GMT. The accuracy is unbelievable on the GS. IMO for the cost difference of $3500 the GS is a great value.

@rogerfleig4746 7 месяцев назад

I'll take the GS every time. Better made, better finish at 1/10th the cost.

@johnd8701 6 месяцев назад

@@rogerfleig4746 all the little boys and girls that can’t afford Rolex at the current prices are stomping their little feet with ‘yeah I don’t even like Rolex anyway mommy!!!’ You have buy all the Seiko you want they are just for you.

@bubbabrannan5915 3 года назад

Thanx Tim.... Taking GS.... 🥃

@sidewinderxx 3 года назад

Grand Seiko... please give us thin watches. My wallet is ready.

@muldune 3 года назад

The fantastic new GS mechanical movement is thinner and so are the resulting watches. Expect to see more in 2021.

@antipartisan6921 2 года назад

Because of waterproof Test grandseiko's watch its unbelievable results of waterproof

@larry.l 3 года назад

😍😍😍 hell yes versus.

@williamumbach592 3 года назад

I like the accuracy of the GS, and that is all. I like EVERYTHING about the Pepsi except the clasp is a scratch magnet.

@kmc2317 3 года назад

I am a GS fan. In fact, one of my favorite watches is my SBGM221. Having said that, on this one, I would go Rolex. No other reason other than this particular GS doesn't do it for me and the "Pepsi," hyped or not, excites me. Cheers!

@torontowatches9709 Год назад

I love my 216570 Polar! If you can’t get a Rolex GMT don’t want to be noticed go for the Explorer 2 it’s super understated and works amazing as a GMT or 24 Hour time zone!

@mikeontherock 3 года назад

Grand Seiko for me.... love the spring drive but would pick one that isn't a gmt in order to reduce the hight of the case

@DjTspaRoLEoffIcER 2 года назад

Great review… my dream was to purchase the Rolex GMT. I did while I was in the USAF. My new dream purchase… Grand Seiko! 👍

@chrisnelson1712 3 года назад

Two heavy weights for sure. I’m going Rolex all day because it is so iconic and classic. But if you have that watch already - I do - then GS should be in the collection too. SBGV245 for me - gorgeous dial, no maintenance, ridiculous accuracy. Cheers!

@4liter 2 года назад

Completely agree, have the 126710BLNR and the SBGE253. Both can be appreciated for what they are, way different takes on a GMT 👍🏼

@Vern13green 3 года назад

Buying the GS, although the thickness is giving me hesitation.

@TheKlickitat 2 года назад

The GS has got to be one of the most beautiful watches I have ever seen. I believe I have found my grail.

@toonsoffun5733 3 года назад

Is the Grand Seiko a "true GMT"? Can't remember if Tim mentioned this.

@marclevesque2402 10 месяцев назад

Yes it is

@dorado0359 2 года назад

That Rolex looks like a $100 Invicta.

@bbrebozo6417 3 года назад

At less than 1/3 the cost of the Rolex (except if you’re Eric Clapton), the GS is the better buy for sure. I have the eagle GMT (the same watch as the green except for the dial and bezel). Very comfortable and if you like accuracy, nothing beats spring drive.

@sergezerkin 3 года назад

i think if you can get pepsi at the retail i would go for it ... but at the gray market no way .. cuz rolex can be a dress watch .. in some ugly way but it can .. this grand seiko never.. i will buy the sbga401 and put it on the leather .. lets see if it will work out as dress watch. if not will go for glashutte senator 3 hander black dial.

@bbrebozo6417 3 года назад

@@sergezerkin Tim’s camera never does the GS justice. The polished indices are much nicer that anything Rolex has to offer short of diamonds. The GS dials are much nicer than Rolex dials. Moreover the GS is so affordable you can get another dressier watch if you feel like putting on a dress. Their heritage lines or elegance line has dressy GMTs.

@beaudoyle1063 2 года назад

If you’re ever interested in selling that eagle let me know!

@bbrebozo6417 2 года назад

@@beaudoyle1063 watch box has one for sale.

@bbrebozo6417 2 года назад

@@beaudoyle1063 the guy in Boston also has one. European watch co.

@TheChadWork2001 2 года назад

Hey Rolex, what's that big Monacle you are wearing on your crystal? A what? A cyclops lense? Why? The Grand Seiko has a large enough date window to see with the regular eye. Why are your Swiss watchmakers so far behind?

@hugohernandez3651 3 года назад

I watched this video originally two months ago. Now am lucky to have the Pepsi on my wrist...🤩

@deltamarquees8158 Год назад

Extremely well balanced review of two iconic watch brands. Better quality and value for money trumps brand status.Therefore I'd go for the GS. Hand -made wstch is also superior to mass -produced machine made watches.

@ronaldverhaeghe8755 Год назад

Should be flattering to GS to compare a 6K Grand Seiko with a 22K Rolex Pepsi, and come out ahead on a number of important points!

@jamespalsson746 3 года назад

GS always leave something to be desired, despite the value proposition

@MrKeaneNg 3 года назад

I agree. I really want one but there’s always a reason I don’t. For this one, it’s the thickness and the bracelet

@patrickbrcr 3 года назад

Their dials are usually awesome and their finishing is fantastic. The cases are generally bulbous and their bracelets leave a little to be desired. I want to like them too but the fact that many of their simple, three-hand watches have like 14mm case thicknesses is a bit ridiculous.

@LeonChetsky3230 3 года назад

Guyssss ??? I think Mr.Tim is telling us to get both !!! I got the gmt2 coke 1988 .... & am going on a business trip to japan in a next couple of months .... grrrrr how do we explain the feeling ???

@roderikvanl Год назад

GS hands down

@muldune 3 года назад

Coincidentally, I watched this video while wearing my Grand Seiko SBGE257. I was sure you would pick the Pepsi and quite surprised you picked the Grand Seiko. Objectively, the Grand Seiko has much more value as a watch, but the Rolex has status, and that's what many of us buy (at ridiculous prices).

@the1916companywatchreviews 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing your opinion Mike Murphy! If you have a quick second, click through to our site and write a review of your Grand Seiko. Our customers love to read about real world experience when shopping on our website. Here's the link: www.thewatchbox.com/shop/Grand-Seiko-Sport-SBGE257.html Thanks in advance!

@sometimesuk 2 года назад

The second hand on the GS is smooth!

@josephharb4607 3 года назад

I bought the blue dial version of the GS and the more I see the green one I feel like I made a mistake

@Jon8931 3 года назад

The blue is beautiful. I went with the black only because I already have a blue seamaster

@SevGW 3 года назад

I do love Grand Seiko but in this particular comparison I‘d go for the Rolex and the two reasons for that are the slimmer case a the more balanced dial. Great video Tim

@davenamba 3 года назад

I prefer a thicker watch. The bracelet on the pepsi reminds me of a gaudy miami cuban bracelet. The Grand Seiko is a masculine, well polished sophisticated timepiece! The smooth sweeping second hand on the GS GMT is mind blowing.

@elonmust7470 Год назад

the gs is ugly

@kingofpentacles3213 Год назад

Both are amazing. Of course the Spring Drive wins for advanced technology and accuracy. But the Rolex GMT is such a classic watch design. One of each, please?