Rome : Triomphe d'Octave 

Yeah and he also ended Egypt.... what a bunch of arseholes the Romans were, yet yanks love them.

@@MrOx85 The poor pharoahs were such saints, too... Truly a shame.

@@MrOx85 Ancient Egypt as most people understand it was already over by this time. It had been ruled by a Greek dynasty for 300 years.

It was ceasar who laid the foundation for octavians power. All octavian needed to do was to stand firm with ceasars plan and gain lot of popularity and veteran troops.

It's the combination of a youthful man and a well seasoned leader/commander. Look at today most leaders are old. Basically no geniuses. From Biden to Putin and Xi Jinping. And all the leaders of Europe. It has been centuries that we haven't had such a leader. Closest would be queen Elizabeth in her younger years but she didn't do anything spectacular. Got to go back to Charles 12 of Sweden. Who was a genius. Nowadays such brilliant minds become CEOs and owners of companies rather than leading nations.

And unluckily we found her playing Lady Featherington in "Bridgerton"

@@gianmarcorusso1713 I haven't been following "Bridgerton" but I might tune in. Polly Walker reminds me a little of the late Lee Van Cleef, another great actor who discovered early in his career that he just didn't have the face to ever be be a "face."

Honestly I like Atia towards the end of season 2. In season 1 she was more like Cersei Lannister but her character arc revealed she was more human

@d R Depends on how much work she wanted, or needed to do I suppose. Celluloid work can be a tough gig even if you are on the big money. Sometimes career paths can be influenced by factors as simple as family responsibilities or a dislike of continuous travelling. I am even prepared to publicly state that I believe Kylie Minogue is a reasonably good film actress, but she never needed to seriously develop that aspect of her talent. Deborah Harry is another example, and there are many others.

@@gianmarcorusso1713 She’s pretty much playing the same character in Bridgerton.

The Empire began with his reign, and proved mighty enough that it could survive Caligula, Nero, Domitian, and Commodus. I can only hope America proves strong enough to survive Trump.

John Miller President Trump is EVEN BETTER THAN AUGUSTUS!!! You will see!

Tom Hibbert If you say something like that, you know nothing about Augustus, greatness and Trump himself. He is nothing like him and will never be nothing like any of the great leaders of the past.

Actually, Trump is more akin to one of the Gracchus brothers. A populist, promising jobs and economic reform under nationalist auspices, purposefully antagonizing the established political status quo of a sick republic. After the Gracchi, a lot of populist tyrants came around, including Caesar and Octavian. So...

@Feministikon Prøjekt that's huge dellusion, Bolton's greatest achievments count defeating the mighty Iraq of Saddam / Agrippa lead the caesarian forces to victory over Anthony and Cleopatra's Egypt and eastern legions, bested many celtic and germanic tribes and much more, he was also an excellent administrator for his emperor with many urban and military developments on his belt. For americans Trump might seem amazing comparing with the mediocrity they endured for the past 30 years but we haven't and likely won't see any time soon a man of the calibre of Agrippa much less that of Augustus.

@@chazarcola7639 said lover dumped her and refused to meet her when she begs him for grain. I dont get why she puts this on Octavian when Anthony forced the issue that resulted innocent people starving to death. Octavian had 0 other options and it was her who told him to “destroy Anthony” too

@@sephelutis I'm not disagreeing with you at all. POLLY WALKER's beautiful performance made THE TRAGEDY OF ATIA OF THE JULII the emotional centerpiece of ROME. After Servilla killed herself, Atia symbolically became the Patron Goddess of Rome on earth in a similar manner to Cleopatra as Queen of Egypt. In the memorable episode "No God Can Stop A Hungry Man", her emotional meltdown during her heartbreaking public humiliation at the entrance of Cleopatra's palace in Egypt was very painful to watch. Upon her return, Atia went to Octavian and angrily slapped him hard in the face for setting up his own mother. But she did tell her son to "crush Antony and his Egyptian queen". And yet, it is very clear later on that she regrets doing this because her lover will not only be defeated but also killed. Atia only wanted him to be humbled and humiliated. And she still loves Marc Antony as Rome itself may still love him. ATIA AND ROME HAVE BECOME ONE AND THE SAME.

This proves Sigma is better than Alpha

Just remember irl she was actually overprotective of Octavian and was reputedly a morally upstanding woman. Kind of like a Dona/Kanye relationship irl which is far more wholesome than what’s in the show

Do not scorn a weak cub; he may become a brutal tiger

Me too. Unlike someone like Alexander, he actually had a plan after the battles were over: an extremely meticulous one actually, totally remaking Roman society at every level and setting the stage for 200 years (!!) of plenty. Truly one of the most remarkable men who has ever lived.

He was a visionary

He was pretty bad at first. No battle experience. And somehow he beat much more experienced opponents

@@SquireThomas to be fair, Augustus didn’t die in his 30’s. If he died around the same age as Alexander, he might have lived long enough to defeat Antony, but only that. Augustus gained the reputation as the best Roman emperor because of his actions as “emperor”, rather than his time during the second triumvirate

@@jtgd That's a fair point, but I'd argue that Alexander's recklessness directly lead to his death. He was far from home for no real good reason when he got sick, far from the best doctors who might have had a chance of saving him. Oh, and Alien, I missed your comment earlier. I think this actually illustrates another one of Augustus' defining traits: he had an amazing eye for talent. He might not have been a great general himself, but Agrippa was and just so happened to be hist best friend. Funny how that works out.

Id say it was more 1:58

Then applaud as I exit...

"...that is if Pontius Aquila will allow it". -Julius Caesar

Love how this scene makes that point so subtly

Res Gestae.

"I came, I saw, I conquered"

Amazing... Augustus!

@Makuta Teridax Constantinople had lost its old might was before the Turks.Its population had even fallen to less than 500k at the time... The city was revived back to life following its conquest by the Ottoman Empire.

@@crazymonkey19071907 City was not revived, without the proper population Constantinople is no more.

@Makuta Teridax fuck that even extraterrestrial would notice the difference between the Latin Rome and Greek Constantinople

Caesar did that. He just walked into it.

For the definitive portrayal of Livia, check out Sian Phillips playing her in the old series ,"I Claudius." Far from being an accessory to Octavian's rise to the top , Livia may well have been the brains behind the whole imperial takeover. Rumored to have even disposed of Octavian Augustus himself when he later became less manageable. Sian Phillips as Livia has a classic sequence in "I Claudius" where (addressing Claudius) she says, "They won't let me into the Senate because I'm a woman, and they won't let you in because you're a fool; and yet what are they but a collection of fools and old women?"

@@russellbrown7028 I like how you prefaced by saying "the definitive portrayal" and then followed by "may well have" and "rumored".

@@russellbrown7028 bahahahahahahaha

I know I'm late but remember he paid for her lol 😅 from another man

@@russellbrown7028 Most likely that Augustus died a peaceful death Just shut up with rumors even if it turns out fo be truth let's rewrite history Afterall We are Master of rewriting history

All a matter of opinion I guess. This is history

@Igor Senkin You forget that their peak and stagnation did not happen until well into the Empire.

@@eodyn7 More like Rome's martial philosophy and imbalance of power,unchanged even when they moved on from the Republic to the Empire,caused its downfall. Their martial perspective bred many more civil wars,and instead of the consul's chair,they lust for the emperor's throne. Overtime,because of Rome's inability to balance powers,there appeared a minority beyond imperial control and didn't have to fulfill their duty to the Empire. Meanwhile,the majority of people were left poor and disgruntled,and no longer wanted to fight for the Empire.

Augustus' rule was the best thing that happened to Rome. The guy was a genius.

@@shizaromaharu355 there is no such thing as balance of power, just power and the competition for that power. If you think there is any way to put power into equilibrium or distribute power evenly in a society, you’ve been lied to by philosophers and poets

Rome paved the way for vikings.

This is a bit silly no? 'Mindlessly Chanting?' The common people had good cause to cheer Augustus, as he stood as a check against the ruling aristocracy same as his adoptive Father.

@@christopherladka2463 he is the aristocracy now. He's using them for his own power, and making himself an emperor in all but name

@@jtgd And yet he is remembered as one of the greatest rulers in history due to how he transformed Roman society for the better after he took power. He established a peace throughout the world so long and lasting that it took almost 2,000 years for it to be duplicated once more. He improved the lives of his people, even if they were just pawns on his chessboard.

@@christopherladka2463 Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar were members of the aristocracy. They undermined the Republic which was rule by a restricted group of families ( who were aristocratic) in favour of rule by one aristocratic man (rule by an Emperor).

​@@heliotropezzz333The Republic was dead long before Caesar and Augustus. To claim otherwise is naive stupidity.

+Vosian I understand how you feel toward's Atia. Then again, sympathy of a despicable toward's a despicable character is a recurring concept in the Rome series. Atia was not the only character that stirred up an viewer's disgust. In the end, all of her bad deeds returned to her; I wouldn't wish karma to return to me, so that's an example.

Atia is far from being pardoned from the terrible things she did, but I think people find sympathy in her because what she truly wanted was Antony. In spite of all her goals in season one, she tosses it aside for a chance a true and pure happiness and finds that all her mistakes of the past destroy that. She never had a chance simply because she was so terrible, and that's why people have sorrow for her. She realized it too late.

Not everything is black and white. Surely you can relate to her emotions in this scene.

Octavian was the closet thing to the perfect warlord.

Vosian

Some parents are good with their children and yet they are neglected when the get old.

Emilce Diaz true, that’s the way of the world, it inevitably happens to those kids too, unless a rare occurrence when the cycle is broken.

@Zayed Haroon what the fuck's your problem

@MrVulture He or she is merely pointing out how depraved the west is. We pay lip service to morality yet our behavior shows The opposite and other countries see this. I understand now why we are called the evil sick west. Our Nursing home’s, jails, animal shelters, homeless shelters (many counties do not have even one) are all FULL. We suck.

19869babygirl Out with the old... in with the new

Hopefully start off with another era. Maybe with Vespasian or Constantine ?

Paul Hhong this is EXACTLY how MILLIONS of us feel about President Trump! Augustus = Trump

LOL....seriously? ^^ That was indeed a good one xD

Tom Hibbert Nice joke.

If Augustus was the best thing for Rome, then clearly, and without doubt, Livia was the worst. I challenge anyone to find a kind word about Livia in any historical writing. Evil incarnate.

@Jon Stark I agree with you that autocratic Rome created by Augustus was a failure of a system that just encouraged instability and civil war, but the circumstance that lead to the creation of that system was the corruption of the republic was also unfit to govern Rome, and had lead to the instability that brought the end of the republic. Ideally Rome needed a political system which - similar to the British one, was capable of considerable reform (unlike the US system) but was not prone to being overthrown (like the French system); but for all Rome's legend, it's periods of stable and effective government were few and far between, and I don't think there ever was a time that didn't make decay and decline inevitable.

MJSpiritual Well...When ruling such a state like Rome...You must be cold and cruel. However, Octavian's reign was not only the most peaceful one, but also he was considered one of the fairest emperors around...But how much truth is behind that courtain, no one knows. History is written by the victor.

History's not written by the victor, propaganda is. Right now, we have many, many perspectives on Rome; some praise it, some abhor it, some are a mixture of both. Cross referencing those visions produces the most accurate vision of historical events. D.R.

Hasfast On many ocasions history and propaganda are very alike. Especially when history is written only by those who supported the winning side.

FistInYourFace Propaganda can use History, and History certainly studies Propaganda as well, but there are no winners or losers in Universal History. People die, empires fall, kingdoms burn and their influence fades... whatever facts they intended to keep secret or withheld are then free to exposure. At no point the concepts of History and Propaganda be used interchageably, they're as dissimilar to each other as the Scientific Method is from Religious Belief. D.R.

Hasfast About winners and losers, i disagree. Some became great, some failed and died trying, forgotten. Grand personas die, but their legacy lives on. That makes them immortal, in some sense. And they are true winners ;)

Not really, more like the love we had is now gone.

Why don't we get to see her elsewhere :'(

Trajan was a better administrator.

@@TheBockenator trajan took augustus bases, the tax system implemented by augustus made run the empire for 300 years.

@@TheBockenator I would assume the Man who established a empire which survived with a unbroken line of emperors till 1204 A.D is better

Not just a little bit but her curse here came full circle.

Atia still won in the end lol

@@AverageAlien a pyrrhic victory

It's also payback for what she did to Octavia, if you remember in Series 1 Atia broke up her own daughter's happy marriage for the sake of a more convenient union with Pompei.

If you read up on your history you would know that Octavian would go on to become one of the greatest Emperors Rome would ever have.

@WlakyMaster He's talking about the show characters, not real life buddy, stay grounded.

@@cpj93070 Good thing he's talking about the show then innit? Octavian in the show is too cold. Just by a touch.

She is now the mother of the emperor, historically, the mother of the ruler (like the Empress Dowagers in ancient China) was held in high regard and prestige. That count for something.

@@PungiFungi I agree with you. Atia wanted to be the most powerful woman in Rome and her baby boy Octavian achieved this for her and more but it was all at the cost of destroying her own heart's true love Marc Antony.

@@kobrakitsch877 I hopeyou know that the Atia in real life had not a whole lot in common with the Atia from the series pictured above. "Atia was so fearful for her son's safety that she and Philippus urged him to renounce his rights as Caesar's heir. She died in August or September 43 BC. Octavian honored her memory with a public funeral." "A fictionalised Atia of the Julii is portrayed by Polly Walker in the BBC-HBO-RAI television series Rome. There she is portrayed as ambitious, shrewd, manipulative, sexually uninhibited, and morally bankrupt; the program also shows her as involved in a long-term romantic relationship with Marc Antony. Jonathan Stamp, the historical consultant for Rome, stated that in addition to the historical Atia, the character version of Atia draws significant influences from other Roman women from the same time period, such as the infamous Clodia, and Marc Antony’s wife, Fulvia." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atia_(mother_of_Augustus)

@@alexamann5729 is stating data that I and other fans of the series already know from reading other materials and sources. You don't need to hope any further. However, I did find it quite interesting that "Atia's intense fear over the safety of her son Octavian" was historically chronicled as you state and may have been possibly given logical motivation by the show's creators when during the first episode, the young boy is captured and tortured by the enemy on an ill advised journey arranged by his mother to visit his great uncle Julius Caesar.

Thats not correct. Attia is the schemer of all of this and now she sees her scheme suceed in front of her eyes. When octavian was outnumbered vs brutus and cassius army she called her lover anthony to join forces with her sons army.

Maureen Maynes Yes well that’s just a title if you focus on his personality he ofc had a mindset that was specifically similar to Livia

History is written by the victors...

Lars Mellberg Augustus had an heir but it was his step son, Tiberius at this time Livia would’ve been pregnant with him but she had the child with her previous husband

People usually have no air when they die. *heir.

He deserved it for what he did to Antony and Egypt

Game of Thrones is already fucked. The past two seasons were garbage.

Whoopsie DayZ hahaha so true

Oh boy, do I have bad news...

Wooops

@@billveusay9423 sigh, the wrong series died.

There's no Proof Octavia and Agrippa even had a relationship.

Sad...

Duty is the death of love.

@@SolarpunkEnjoyer That wasn't duty, Octavio and Agripa were selfish ppl.

@@Emy-fv5ny The noble Emilce hath told you Octavian was ambitious...

Agree with you completely.

Also agree. Probably my favorite of the big HBO epics

Palmer Hicks YES! AT THE 1:15 MARK! And Augustus is "reborn" in President Trump!

Mr. Carelli no man, he is a god

Tom Hibbert Stop that nonsensical talk, there is no comparison at all!

@@tomhibbert1210 no

Tom Hibbert stop writing these foolishness here, they are completely different. Rome was billions of years ahead of his time, America can’t even win a war against Vietnam lol

This isn't Hollywood.

@@heliotropezzz333 Whatever it is ,it's better than Hollywood then!

@@psafety9355 Indeed. Sad that the writer has died and also the actor that played Titus Pullo.

Napoleon would be the centre forward

@@captaincrunch7 Or Alexander the Great.

Buscandotreguas Vacas For me it's just the fact that we see Marc Antoine with the little music, im like, noooo, poor Atia and Marc, the last time she saw him he was like a boss and now he's in bones attached to a stick with the croud that is happy ;'(

Both Antony & Cleopatra were buried most likely in Alexandria.

Those are effigys

@@jtgd They're not, you can see Antony's rotting head behind the mask briefly

I thought they were effigies at first, but upon closer inspection, you can see the rotting skin behind the masks. So those are their bodies i believe.

No, the script says they are effigies - they were just prepped up as if they were the bodies to symbolize their defeat.

in this serie Atia is the most fake character, I mean is the one who they transform totally for the serie and the tv, its said that she was the perfect roman matron and never had anything with Marco Antonio...but tv shows her like a witch to do the serie more interesting ;p

I could not expect anything else written about emperor's mum. As we do not know anything about her, and we know quite a lot about the leading women in republican times , I would not expect her to be just a Roman matron.

Tyechia Harris Literally what isabella said. All Roman men wrote such idealized descriptions about the women in their lives whether it was really true or not. Having a wife, mother, or daughter that was a virtuous in the eyes or everyone she met, was the one of the aspirations Romans had. It makes them look good too basically.

I agree with the fact that Atia was probably idealized by Augustus’ propaganda. However, it doesn’t change the fact that the Atia of this show is a totally fake character, only very poorly based on the actual Atia. In fact, it seems the scenarists mixed Atia with Fulvia who was Antony’s second wife (and the mother of Octavian’s first wife). Fulvia was an extraordinary woman. She is known for her great involvement in politics and her many marriages with powerful roman politicians (Antony was her third husband). She even personally took the lead of legions during the Perusine War that opposed her to Octavian.

@@trueromancat7978 No, there weren't are you stupid?

No, is Principate. Imperator is military function.

@mausalus09 Have you ever met a male?

Or maybe he spend his teens being in a military academy and spending time with Caesar

Octavian was very well educated thanks to Julius Cesar his great Uncle nothing like his mother, or he never would have been Augustus.

Octavian's father was a rising and successful senator when he perished at a young age.

She did acknowledge that she might be the reason why he was so cold and manipulative

Those are probably the real dead bodies in there. The Romans preferred to show conquered rulers alive in chains. If that was not possible, then their dead bodies. If no body, then maybe a wooden statue as a "symbolic decoration."

Nerthus That’s Antony and Cleopatra sadly

@@cinna_sultan Octavian allowed burial rites for Antony & later Cleopatra. It's likely those are decorative statues symbolizing his defeated enemies.

@@einezcrespo There is a real corpse under Antony's mask if you watch closely.

Cleopatra and Antony's tomb had been located recently, and should be dug out in the next few years. It's 30 km from Alexandria, in Egypt. So these would have been random corpses, hence the masks. Transporting corpses by boat over a few weeks would have brought about quite a stench, and be dangerous for diseases. Not to mention, the faces would have had time to rot and become unrecognisable. Seems a lot simpler to use corpses found in Rome and just put them in appropriate costumes and masks, since no one could tell the difference anyway.

And their kids chained by the gold chains made from their mother jewelry

Dramatic license. Octavian never had their bodies paraded. The surviving children were though.

No, those aren't their bodies - the script says they are just effigies.

Teutoborg only proves that without Agrippa and military talent of Antony Octavian would not hold the place in the history he obtained thanks to the accomplishments of the others. .

Isabella H Fully agreed! Would love to see all of that in a potential Season 3 of course! :)

No that is completely wrong first Augustus gave power to Tibirius to take care of problems in that region second Tibirius put the incompetent Varus under the control of the 3 legions and the lands third Varus had no skill taking care or controlling germans in a political or military situation . in short Augustus was actually Augustus is an amazing tactition and general he made the wrong choice of legatus

Side Tracker You are absolutely right that Varrus was incompetent. His career boosted after the death of Agrippa, to whom he was related by family ties and marriage.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Quinctilius_Varus. I will always say, If Augustus would not get rid of Agrippa, the world would look different today.Never mention, how could it be, if Marcus Antonius could bulid his Empire on the East.

+Isabella H Marc Antony would never build an empire in the east his extravagance and obsession with Cleopatra made him a tool plus he would eventually crack under Parthian pressure and all the revolts in the middle east and we all know what happened to Marcus when he smelled defeat.