Romulan-Vulcan Unification 

-"Captain, the Romulan and the Vulcan are now unified under he same banner!" -"What is the name of their coalition, ensign?" -"The... Vululans, captain." -"Stunning and brave."

The fact that the Romulans are so secluded and (generally) closed off to the rest of the galaxy is what makes them so... intriguing.

I believe the term you're looking for is "future history."

Imagine Discoverys shock when they find out Romulans descended from Vulcan.

Romulans: Your not allowed to research cloaking tech and you signed this treaty sealing the deal. Federation: (Laughs in Section 31!)

Aw! Seeing Spock having made it to a ripe old age somewhere between the human and Vulcan norm makes me so happy. I wonder if the Romulans of Ni'var ever recognized that Kirk, by hijacking and scuttling the Enterprise and resurrecting Spock shared responsibily for the Reunification.

The Borg regularly passed through Romulan space to get to the Federation? Helps explain the Romulan's love of Superships. They were pursuing the "big hammer" solution, while Starfleet pursued the "many spears" solution, to the Borg. Many smaller more nimble Starfleet vessels pry open a Borg Cube and a Romulan superheavy battleship dumps hard (I know what I said) into the hole they made to destroy the cube.

It wasn't the Romulan star that went supernova, it was the "Hobus System"

i love these kinds of videos. even as someone who knows his Star Trek lore, I enjoy having a little watch party to remember all the relevant content before something [hopefully] big happens like in Discovery.

After Vulcanization the Romulans could laugh in the face of a flat tire.

Has anyone noticed that the nu romulan/vulcan insignia looks like the romulan rapture holding the vulcan emplem as if it was prey

One of the most fascinating facets of the unification is what will it be? The Vulcans wanted the Romulans to be like them. On the flip side, the Romulans want the Vulcan to be like them. So, how will it all work out? Will one side yield and sacrifice themselves to become the other, or will they truly live side by side?

I still don't understand why the Romulan Star Empire needed the Federations help to evacuate a couple planets. They are the Romulan "Star EMPIRE". They control many numerous planets and solar systems. They have a vast military and economy that rivals the Federation and Klingons. They should be able to evacuate a few planets, and relocate a population with little difficultly. Especially if they knew about the super nova years in advance.

I wouldn't say that it's necessarily "a shame" that it took so long. Looking back at Unification part 2 on TNG (as Discovery itself does) Spock fully acknowledges that it could take years or even centuries to bring the Vulcan and Romulan people together, but is certain that it WILL happen. Spock's dream has been realized, but there was and is still so much to do, even before The Burn. But I'll leave that to your actual review of the episode.

2:30 I feel like the more reasonable interpretation is that the founding members of the Federation suppressed the information about the Vulcans and Romulans.

Why haven’t viewers seen the alien species subjected under the Klingon and Romulan empires in greater detail.

STD edited Spock's dialogue with Picard. I suggest going back and watching Unification Pt. 2 to get the unabridged version. They really dumbed it down for STD.

Great video friend. I really liked that they did a lot of world building with the Romulans in STP and now in discovery. It was long overdue.

Excellent overview of Vulcan-Romulan history concerning the Federation also. Thank you... 👍

'' live long an prosper '' I say.

There's so much I want to learn about "Ni'Var". Like is following the way of Surak optional? Do some Romulans choose to do so? Do they speak both Romulan and Vulcan on the planet or just one of them.

About fifteen years ago, I saw a video online that purposed an interesting idea about a common history between Vulcans and Romulans. Both races evolved on the same planet, whether that planet was Vulcan, Romulus, or a third planet. In the ancient past, the being that the TOS crew encountered in "Who Mourns for Adonis," along with others of his race, visited the world where the Vulcans and Romulans lived. It is unsure whether this visitation was before or after their visit to Earth. In this theory, Vulcans were the physically strong and telepathic beings that we know. The Romulans were more human like in that they were physically weaker that Vulcans and not telepathic. These Greek gods, for lack of a better name saw that the Vulcans were cruel to the weaker Romulans, this occurring before the Age of Logic . These Greek gods possibly took the Vulcans to the harsh world that became known as Vulcan as a punishment. They, likewise, took the Romulans to a better world that became know as Romulus. Presumably, these beings left the Romulans with the same beliefs that they left on Earth, these beliefs being the legends of the Greek gods that we read of in history.

Until the events in "a pale moonlight" come out. You really trust Garak to not have that as a card up his sleeve at somepoint.

I love that you used a certain film's main theme in this video. I think a summer in equatorial Arrakis or Vulcan would be pretty damned similar ;)

I enjoy your insightful look at thing, places and Star Trek Canon THANKS FOR SHARING.

I await w/ baited breath ur dive into the parting of ways betw Vulcans, Romulans, & Remans! (Like #183)

Hoping STO gets a chance to actually tell the story of how the Vulcans and Romulans reunify. Maybe next year when the failed Year of Klingon happily ends.

I don't know the whole Star Trek universe, but I wonder if the United Federation of Planets was not the first galactic power at its peak, before the Burn : Season 3 of Star Trek Discovery reveals that the Federation was made up of about 350 member planets before its fall, not counting the thousands of colonies. In addition, the two great powers of the Beta Quadrant, the Klingon Empire and the Romulan Star Empire, seem to have joined this one : Star Trek Enterprise claimed that the Klingon Empire had joined the Federation before the Battle of Procyon V, and the latest episode of Star Trek Discovery claims the Romulans wanted to stay with the Federation. Also, I think that other powers of the Alpha Quadrant, such as the Ferengi Alliance, could have joined the Federation : the relations of these with the Federation seem, for many, to be similar to those of the powers of the Beta Quadrant before their integration. It makes me think that the Federation was the dominant power in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants and that its immediate neighbors remained negligible by its side. Except the Borg Collective in the Delta Quadrant and the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant, no power seems to have been able to compete with it, at the time of its peak ... But I would like to know what you think about it.

I love getting more lore on them too! I can't wait to see them more in DISCO

So thankful for this channel!

Just found a plot hole regarding The Burn....don't the romulan ships use micro singularities to create warp fields? so if they don't use dilithyum doesn't this still make them warp capable? shouldn't they have been the new supreme power?

See, I didn't know the events of Trek '09/XI were indeed canon in more recent shows. I was under the idea that it was its own thing closed off to canon despite the inclusion of Spock Prime. This definitely sheds light on the recent Discovery.

I never understood how one Roluman sun going supernova would affect more than one solar system.

SO if the Romulans dealt with the Borg as well, I would assume that they would have assimilated Romulan tech and information at some point... guess the Borg had no interest in cloaking, would have made getting to Earth alot easier

6:00 "ITS A FAAAAAAAKE"

Maybe in season 2 of Star trek Picard will know more about the unification.

Nine centuries, and Spock is still relevant in the timeline. Heck, it is what Jean Luc Picard recorded of his time meeting Spock, so without Jean Luc, Spock might've had no mention in discovery at all.

I am so glad I found your channel, man. You are so damn entertaining. XD

How were the vulcans not aware of the romulans? This make no sense as in season 1 ENT mine field they encountered the romulans; identified the species through the database (it's been 10 years since I watched the eposide my memory isn't the best as it once was). Mabye I'll re watch ENT better then what they are doing too trek these days.

Can somebody tell me if the new Romulan/Vulcan star trek discovery future are Romulan/Vulcans using singularity warp cores to travel across galaxy ? Because now in new Discovery series is federation broken without dilithium but the romulans were not using dilithium .

The Klingons sued for peace. The Borg were neutralized. The Dominion was stopped. The Romulans reunified with Vulcan. The Orions are too fractious to be much of a threat. So...who are the bad guys now? 🖖

There is something that has always confused me about the Vulcan/Romulan backstory: Vulcans are always depicted as being so overcome with emotions that, without suppressing them, they are overcome by aggression and violence, nigh uncontrollable. Now the romulans rejected these teachings, so why aren't they showing the same characteristics? They're warlike, sure, but they are not giving the Klingons a run for their money or anything. Did their species diverge enough genetically to breed out the aggression?

No idea why Romulans would be affected by the burn. They don't need dilithium for their warp cores.

Its more likely that the Romulans become part of the Federation and after the burn they decide (or some of them) to keep this Unification working after the "end" of the Federation. But we will see what the writers are thinking ;)

So when the Romulans join the Federtion, the next villain is right there: The Hitogen.

Great video. Also, can you give us your build spec of your Odyssey Class of Admiral Mark Hale character from your story series? I'm very interested how did you build your awesome Odyssey Class.

I have a feeling you're going to love Unification, Part III. I give it 9 🖖s out of 10. A fitting expansion of Unification into a trilogy that only the most hardened New Trek hating extremists (who, let's be honest, are mostly just Obsidian Order paid bot accounts) would dislike. Though it may wind them up that Michael Burnham being Spock's sister is such a big plot element. I'm deducting a 🖖, however, because I find it illogical that in the future everyone's transporter effect looks the same despite the technological diversity of differing, semi isolated civilisations, I mean they could have at least coloured it green. Then again I'm not a huge fan of these rapid transporter effects since Picard... the transporter effect is cool, see _Star Trek IV: The Wrath of Greenpeace_ for proof... it needs to be savoured, appreciated, like a fine Château Picard Merlot. And fine, it becoming somewhat quicker in the future makes sense but even if it's quick it needs some more flair and style, Picard's effect looked like stepping through a boring grey/white waterfall and Discovery's effect looks and sounds like... a decent spawning effect for a hypothetical Quake 5, but it's a poor substitute for the greatness of older transporters. You know what the problem is? Most of those great old transporter effects used an effects layer of glitter being dropped into water. I'm pretty sure the TOS effect was nothing but. The classic movies, I'm not sure if they used glitter but they had prominent, slow fading sparkles, and they started adding cool vertical lines (let's pretend that childhood trauma inducing transporter scene of the first movie didn't happen). By the time of _Star Trek IV: The Search for George and Gracie_ and _Star Trek VI: ⚡Flash Gorkon⚡_ it was an art form that TNG expanded on gracefully. These new effects are all digital and that's fine, but they need an Adobe plugin that simulates someone dropping glitter into water! Come on CBS, make it happen! And while I'm demanding things from CBS, bring back Babylon 5!

Were the Romulans exiled, or did they leave willingly?

All I know about the time of the sundering are some tidbits that were issued by the STO staff in the forefront of the introduction of the Romulans in STO, quite some years ago.

Please please please do a Lower Decks review!

Rick,please do a video about the transporters & holograms in star trek,please do a video about jabba the jury's slaves & the slaves costumes in star wars,please do a video about how people in star trek & star wars universe get married &divorce

Don't get too attached to this 'Canon' after STD's upcoming Guardian of Forever 2parter.

Loved this video!

One would cry for the Romulans, if we knew more about them and felt better for them. Alas, rarely a more belligerently secretive species has ever been known. The Breen are worse but the Romulans had the ability to make it actually hurt.

the Romulan intention unification or corruption, perhaps both

I still don't know what the Romulan Free State does. For the moment, I prefer the story that Cryptic wrote for the rise of the Romulan Republic -- the only political power from that species to seek a new homeworld. Involving legacy characters like Sela was also a smart move.

Not the first.... and not a person will care either lol 🤣🤣🤣

Didnt the crew get a training to fit into the 32nd century, you would think something about member worlds and history especially about one of the greatest enemys, would include that

Love the geopolitical (or should I say galacpolitical) dimension of Star Trek. Star Trek as a genre should branch out into geopolitics, espionage, and commerce, and galactic affairs (meaning international affairs). Many interesting stories can be written about this.

What happened to the Remans when the star exploded?

So, in canon, it wasn't the Hobus star that went supernova and sent a shockwave through subspace that destroyed the Romulus system, but the star of the Romulus system itself?

I'm really enjoying Discovery.

Damn you Rick TNG just started on horror ch

So, what about the Remans?

the romulan government near the hobus disaster sounds alot like the USA.

Wait wait wait didn't they say that reunited before the burn not after the burn

I have a question I need help with: How did the Romulans lose their telepathic powers and is the Remans an offshoot species or were they the indigenous population of the Romulus home world.

the space elves must unite

If they were cool since it's in the future it would be unification part iv. A new hope

I think in Discovery that the Romulans may be a super power, Their D'Deridex class ships have been using the warp 6 Singularity Core Drives that don't require dilithium for centuries TNG Timescape episode 18 minutes in for source.

Trying telling that to Apaches to the Navajos.

What's the source for that image of an older John Harriman?

Where did you get the new 32nd century reunification emblem image from?

PROTO-VULCANS!

Wait, so both Free state AND Republic co-existed?

Did the Remans survive the exploding sun from Romulus

"Vulcan Text"

Good theroy

How can any race with replication Tech ever go through hard times?

I don't see how anyone can think that any show after DS9 can be considered cannon. I would take the lore of ST online before abominations like STD or pukehard.

Every time I see a screenshot of that recent cartoon my brain just does it's best to block it out.

What about Remans? They are descended from Vulcans as well.

Star Fleet and the Federation has a bad tendency to make bad deals to buy peace. As far as the treaty stoping the Federation from developing clocking technology. Well let’s just say I would have told them to “Get bent”.

“Reunification”

Just saw the new ep... Excellent, excellent episode.... You are not going to believe who appears to assist Michael Burnham...

What about the mintakins

Well you are a point point wrong the Romans and the Vulcans United in for the Federation time

Unification was never an option, the ship clans can't go back to all that silliness. The way of D'era is the only way. I have The Way of D'era ST:TNG Romulan Star Empire tabletop companion guide, the story about the ship clans is kinda fun.

Kirk was the 1st to see a Romulan

The federation didn't have anything to do with the pale moon light. That was all sisko and garak

Wow I'm so early

Hello RU-vid algorithm. Let us all worship the algorithm.

Well they nead 1500 years to rebuild and travel to stars humans only 10 years

I just can't accept disc and Picard as prime timeline.

Hobus Is not the star of the romulus system. Hobus a star 500 light years away from Romulus. The pre movie book "the path to 2409" mentions that the supernova somehow accelerated through subspace to high warp speeds. In Star Trek Online this acceleration of shockwave and the supernova itself is shown to be retribution from the Iconians for Empress Sela's actions in the past.

Re-Unification

Is "Certifiably Ingame" the same guy as Shadiversity?

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Personally, I think the PIC version is a pile of nonsense, and I like the STO storyline, branching off from the '09 Trek reboot movie. (The entire "warp speed supernova" stuff makes sense in STO.)

Still prefer STO. This "canon" is ridiculous. When a game actually makes better story than triple A TV shows.