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Rondel Dagger Review - Tod Cutler 14th/15th century replica
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@nobbynoris
@nobbynoris 6 лет назад
Hey Matt, glad to see you taking a pronounced stand against racism. Good on you.
@joaopedroleite3672
@joaopedroleite3672 6 лет назад
Gentle prison shank
@sambakich7494
@sambakich7494 6 лет назад
Matt: I want to introduce you to my new favorite little weapon. Matt: Looks at crotch. Me: Please don't.
@Finkeren
@Finkeren 6 лет назад
Later he’ll show us his ballock dagger.
@TasTheWatcher
@TasTheWatcher 6 лет назад
"I'll get it out in a minute"
@ContagiousCure
@ContagiousCure 6 лет назад
"Stiffness helps with penetration" Matt 2018
@AivarPC
@AivarPC 6 лет назад
You mean... Please do?
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 5 лет назад
"Tod's stuff."
@ShagShaggio
@ShagShaggio 6 лет назад
Beautiful dagger! Everything I've seen from Tod is absolutely gorgeous and it's really awesome to see him offer more affordable options with the same attention to detail and master craftsmanship!
@jacklonghearse9821
@jacklonghearse9821 6 лет назад
*You can get the Rondel Dagger in Kingdom Come: Deliverance.* In-game it's called the "Ornamented Dagger" for some reason. You find it stashed under a floor tile in the Dormitory on the 2nd floor of the Monastery in Sasau. It looks really cool during stealth kills.
@simishyde288
@simishyde288 5 лет назад
:O
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 6 лет назад
That's a fantastic product for only 88 GBP (if that screenshot is still accurate). I know some people that would charge twice that for the scabbard alone.
@thelonerider5644
@thelonerider5644 4 года назад
Just received one of Tod's smallish knives. Beautiful! I'm sold on the quality of his stuff. I will definately be ordering a dagger soon as I save up.
@NoahWeisbrod
@NoahWeisbrod 6 лет назад
The gentler prison "shankings" are done with a different kind of "dagger" 😉
@blackdeath4eternity
@blackdeath4eternity 6 лет назад
ill take your word on it, seem like you might have first hand experience. lol
@ReasonAboveEverything
@ReasonAboveEverything 5 лет назад
Split the wig and bust dem cheeks.
@LeonM4c
@LeonM4c 6 лет назад
I may order one myself, been wanting to add a rondel dagger ti my kit. I'm happy to hear he's featuring some more affordable options, I've also wanted to buy from Tod's stuff for awhile and support his craft.
@dimitere1
@dimitere1 6 лет назад
Thanks a million, Matt! Great review and this one has been shipped to me today! :) What a beauty!
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 6 лет назад
See, I'm glad you addressed the practice(or lack thereof) of civilian sword wearing prior to 1500. I've read so many people stating that swords were worn by the knightly class at all times. Even the Wiktenauer website, which I love very much, states in their entry for the arming sword... "The arming sword was worn by a knight even when not in armor, and he would be considered 'undressed' for public if he were without it." But in all the writings and, especially the illustrations I've seen, I've encountered hardly any examples of nobles in civilian dress wearing anything other than a dagger. So, it's hard for me to know what to believe sometimes! 😃
@fallencrusader2975
@fallencrusader2975 2 года назад
Knights carry a sword and dagger. When out of armor knights typically carried just a sword as a status symbol and ditch the dagger, as the dagger is only better than a sword when stabbing weak points in armor. (Something only useful in war)
@fallencrusader2975
@fallencrusader2975 2 года назад
Here is a knight's common aresenal during the 15th century: Polearm (typically Spear or poleaxe) Sword Dagger The knight will usually have a servant that carries his lance or his polearm, so he can switch between a lance on horseback or a spear/poleaxe on foot. In some instances knights even prefered to continue using his lance once he dismounts on foot! There were also demi-lances which were a lance spear hybrid that can be used for both purposes...
@sharkinahat
@sharkinahat 6 лет назад
HEMA prison fighting technique: Gentle Stabbing.
@andywebster8617
@andywebster8617 6 лет назад
Ordered mine can’t wait
@Dominator046
@Dominator046 6 лет назад
6:50 THAAAANK YOU, Matt. I don't know how many times I have to reiterate to some uninformed/opinionated (some of whom are friends of mine)* people who watch your videos, that while not impervious, and progressively less capable of withstanding assault (by itself) from later and later period weapons, mail STILL does protect you from a lot of stuff. Even stabs. EDIT*, for clarity. 99.999% all discussions taken from this channel are amazing.
@justsomeguy3931
@justsomeguy3931 5 лет назад
Tod's Stuff is my go-to for this kind of gear now, thanks.
@act.13.41
@act.13.41 5 лет назад
If you're in the U.S., some of Tod's work can be found at Cult of Athena and cheaper than you can get it shipped from Britain. I have 3 of Tod's daggers from there and one more on the way.
@justsomeguy3931
@justsomeguy3931 5 лет назад
@@act.13.41 Word, thanks!
@kronosbr
@kronosbr 6 лет назад
Beautiful weapon Matt. Thanks for showing us. I should have bought some stuff when i was in Spain studying law last year. Here in Brazil we are crap out of good stuff like that.
@charlottewalnut3118
@charlottewalnut3118 2 года назад
Can you not order one
@kasnitch
@kasnitch 6 лет назад
that is a beautiful rondel
@torianholt2752
@torianholt2752 6 лет назад
Wasn't the rear disk also used as a striking point to hammer the dagger into gaps and whatnot?
@hellequingentlemanbastard9497
@hellequingentlemanbastard9497 6 лет назад
What a lovely can-opener.
@Sam_Arwas
@Sam_Arwas 6 лет назад
I would have thought that a relatively unarmoured person going up against a fully armoured knight was basically suicide. While you're forced to target the small gaps in his armour he can wound you anywhere on your body
@michaelstephan9619
@michaelstephan9619 6 лет назад
There goes my money. This style of rondel dagger was exactly what I was looking for. And the seax Tod offers in this line also was to nice not to buy.
@phillipsmith2903
@phillipsmith2903 6 лет назад
That seems like amazingly good value.
@benjaminodonnell258
@benjaminodonnell258 6 лет назад
Doesn't the rear disc also allow you to easily use your off hand to slap or slam or hammer a dagger thrust home?
@Marcus_563
@Marcus_563 6 лет назад
That is an awesome dagger!
@daeholm
@daeholm 6 лет назад
What an outstanding value. How does Todd make any money on these?
@evias9943
@evias9943 6 лет назад
Damn that price makes this a gift!!! need one!
@jacklonghearse9821
@jacklonghearse9821 6 лет назад
Tod rocks! And the Rondel is my favorite dagger
@cloudcleaver23
@cloudcleaver23 6 лет назад
This is impressive. How's the fit/flushness on the edges of the disks, where metal meets wood?
@SchlrFtrRkMystc
@SchlrFtrRkMystc 6 лет назад
So, you left out one of the primary purposes of the rondel pommel: when fighting in armor, often while grappling wherein a proper strike is more difficult, the point often ends up placed in a gap against mail and gambeson behind it and the pommel is rounded to better facilitate pounding on it with your other hand to drive the point through the layers of armor... as you said earlier "like a chisel". So weird that this was left out, especially since you got so close.
@ianmiller4195
@ianmiller4195 6 лет назад
It's a nice dagger I want one...
@stillbill5466
@stillbill5466 6 лет назад
try CIVIL WAR CAVALRY AND ARTILLERY SABERS by john h. thillman, book type tech info with photos by maker/retailer. haven't seen a website like this one on U.S. stuff. this post refers to your one below on info.
@WeissM89
@WeissM89 6 лет назад
I wonder: with the reverse grip, if the weapon is straight like yours, is there any biomechanical difference between stabbing something with the edge facing outside and inside?
@Jman3teen
@Jman3teen 6 лет назад
You recommended a pair of sharpening stones to end all sharpening stones a few months ago. What were they called?
@beachmaster3486
@beachmaster3486 6 лет назад
When looking at rondel daggers I find that their grip lengths are usually charitable and your hand isn't kind of squeezed like on a tulwar's hilt. Baselard daggers seem to have a relatively tight grip compared to them. Any ideas as to why this is?
@fabiovarra3698
@fabiovarra3698 6 лет назад
think of having mittens or gauntles on and you have the answer
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 6 лет назад
Some of Tod's daggers have a choice of handle grip length.
@MrGustaphe
@MrGustaphe 6 лет назад
If you were to unscrew the bottom rondel to end someone rightly, would that qualify as discus?
@revolverocelot6334
@revolverocelot6334 6 лет назад
Are you going to review other daggers from Tod's Tod Cutler site? they are a very interesting option if you want to buy something "medieval-weaponish" but don't have much money
@ianmiller4195
@ianmiller4195 6 лет назад
Hey matt, do you know where I can find information about American military sabres? I would like to find some antiques and I'm likely to only find that kind here in America.
@RKcousins625
@RKcousins625 6 лет назад
Ian Miller I don’t know where you live but in Gettysburg there is a antique store almost entirely of American swords and guns. Many smallsword type blades, amazing place to handle a multitude of antique weapons.
@extrasmack
@extrasmack 6 лет назад
Beautiful!
@rap36case
@rap36case 6 лет назад
Benchmade 133 Infidel fixed blade dagger. How does it compare? How useful is it?
@LimDul
@LimDul 6 лет назад
And now the daggers are only available per backorder with an 8-10 waiting time. :( I wanted to get one for my girlfriend's birthday. Hopefully it will arrive on time.
@PBas-qq4uh
@PBas-qq4uh 6 лет назад
Matt, could you please do a video relative to the footwork involved in HEMA? I've watch countless of hours of footage from HEMA instructors on here, your self, Metatron, Skall Shadiversity, London Longsword etc... But no 1 ever mentions what the feet do. Does footwork play a big part in HEMA training??
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 6 лет назад
Yes, footwork is huge. I think I have covered some of the basics in my HEMA training tips playlist.
@SirMango
@SirMango 6 лет назад
7:15 I heard some people saying that the disk also allows the person to slap the back (with the unarmed hand) when stabbing for additional force. Is it true?
@jrs4516
@jrs4516 6 лет назад
seems plausible. another use could be to assist the user removing the blade if it got stuck in whatever it was thrust through.
@twirlipofthemists3201
@twirlipofthemists3201 6 лет назад
It's a giant thumbtack, for sticking into armored persons. I imagine it's there for bashing on, and for putting both hands on it with all your weight behind it. Especially for a downed opponent.
@mikaluostarinen4858
@mikaluostarinen4858 6 лет назад
That disc is easy to press with anything, knee, forearm, chest etc. Huge forces may be necessary, not just hand muscles, and the other hand can be occupied in other function. Of course this raises a question ; Had that disc really so many disadvantages, that it wasn't much used after middle ages?
@AaronPaulIbarrola
@AaronPaulIbarrola 6 лет назад
Twirlip Of The Mists I love the thumbtack bit. Never thought of it that way but that totally makes sense and now I can't seem to stop thinking of it. lol
@Spetulhu
@Spetulhu 6 лет назад
It's probably not the disadvantages, just that you didn't need to apply such force after full armor went out of style. So as with any weapon made for real use features that aren't needed will eventually be left out to save on materials and work.
@raphaello5898
@raphaello5898 6 лет назад
How long is the longest dagger?
@michaelanderson8042
@michaelanderson8042 6 лет назад
Michael Anderson 1 second ago Greetings, I luv Scholagladiatoria. You do an outstanding job of explaining things. Not trying to be an "Expert", however I would like to point out a few things. It is not the Martial Art or Mixed Martial Arts, rather, what the Practioner does with the Training. At the end of the fight, are you : Vertical or Horizontal? Traditional and also in my opinion the best all around Martial Art(s) are : Kali / Silat. Go spend a week Training with Dan Inosanto who has Authored Co-Authored a few books. The U.S. Army used Kalistas / Escrimador's as : Guides and Guerilla Warriors. Those are the Fighters who actual learned and put into Practical Use in a Kill or be Killed arena called WAR. Kali / Silat covers all the bases. There are Punches, Kicks, Submissions, etc Many of the Arts now have lost the true meaning and values, and most are for Sport. Everything has become : Sport because the blasted sissies/criminals get hurt and go cry to a Lawyer. grgggrgrgr Ever heard about getting the Black Belt in Karate and having to get Registered with the Local Police Station. hhmm If the sissies/criminals didn't go out attacking people. Especially those trained in Self Defense. They wouldn't have gotten hurt. Since you mentioned Wing Chun, it was a Style developed for Women or weaker People to handle Multiple or stronger Opponent(s). Grand Master Ip Man taught many students, the most infamous was Bruce Lee. The context that Wing Chun is losing in is : Sport. Actually step into the cage with a true Master Level Wing Chun Practioner, and say : No Holds Barred. I think that Wing Chun would manage much better. There are people who say. Ip Man was a Grand Master and his 1st Generation Students were excellent Fighters. People who learned from Ip Man's Students were very Technically Competent( better Teacher instead of Fighters). The next Generations are just riding the coattails of the previous Generations. hhmm Have a great day and keep up the good work with putting out very informative Videos. Thanx :) P.S. I originally put this as a comment on a previous Video from 2015. Also, don't waste time with the negative comments. You do a good job, and if people can't comprehend what you are putting out. They should just keep the negative comments to themselves.
@seanwilson5147
@seanwilson5147 4 года назад
Are they heat treated
@andywilson8698
@andywilson8698 6 лет назад
How well of a edge can that type of blade get . I know paulus kal shows cutting to the hand in his treaties, would that type of blade be able to do enough damage to possibly injury or incapacitate the attacker hand.
@BL-yj2wp
@BL-yj2wp 6 лет назад
The thick blade would not make for a great slicer but as long as it is sharp - human flesh and skin is soft and easy to cut. It would certainly do some serious damage.
@wlewisiii
@wlewisiii 6 лет назад
Beautiful piece. But then I made the mistake of looking at his site - oh, my that Langseax of his is gorgeous. L109 sharpened & shipped to the states isn't that bad really presuming the quality you say his stuff has. My wallet is most unhappy with you Mr Matt Easton! :D
@charlottewalnut3118
@charlottewalnut3118 2 года назад
But are you happy
@snowsurfer2512
@snowsurfer2512 6 лет назад
Should have said April fool's at the end just to mess with viewers
@miiiisho
@miiiisho 6 лет назад
Daggers are so beautiful , do you still have the Arabian dagger “Khanjar,Janbiah” ?
@leebennett4117
@leebennett4117 6 лет назад
Well I seriously through he was Going to show us his Bolloc Dagger
@th_blck_knght
@th_blck_knght 6 лет назад
Is a double layer leather sheath 100% double? On which side is the fold, or are they completely seperate pieces? Do they have any kind of wooden piece inside?
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 6 лет назад
I think he said there is a poplar wood core(Poplar because it's least likely to react with the blade).
@usbektimur
@usbektimur 6 лет назад
The price is ridiculously low for that quality! Wow!
@BigZ7337
@BigZ7337 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video, this rondel dagger is really tempting to buy, but the almost thirty dollar shipping charge to the US is a downer. I wonder if Tod could could send a big bundle of his wares to a North American based store like Kult of Athena to sell?
@twirlipofthemists3201
@twirlipofthemists3201 6 лет назад
These are handmade. This price is a steal. You won't get a million chances. PS. Your way would cost more.
@jordanwilliams6972
@jordanwilliams6972 6 лет назад
30 dollars is really not that much at all for international shipping, and really only a little more than continental shipping.
@wonderboy2402
@wonderboy2402 6 лет назад
5:49 didn’t get the memo for dress up in mail day for that days battle.
@manfredconnor3194
@manfredconnor3194 7 месяцев назад
What is the weight on this?
@Stoppahpowah
@Stoppahpowah 6 лет назад
"I won't say that prison shanking is always gentle." -Matt Easton, 2018
@usbektimur
@usbektimur 6 лет назад
Damn, it's sold out already!
@tonygirardeau70
@tonygirardeau70 6 лет назад
Very nice move from Tod, that way I could afford a bollocks dagger as a birthday gift for a cutlery fan \O/
@Simtar123
@Simtar123 6 лет назад
In this video: Matt talks about gentle stabbing with his favorite little weapon! XD
@sigutjo
@sigutjo 6 лет назад
I have asked this before and I will do so again. Isn't it more difficult to stab with such a long blade? Because you have to bring your arm back so much. Isn't it easier to generate more force with a shorter blade? With a long blade like this it seems more like pushing the point into the opponent instead of stabbing him/her.
@theColJessep
@theColJessep 6 лет назад
It's 2-handed dagger, half-sword with it... =P
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 6 лет назад
No expert, but if you're grappling an armoured opponent he may be holding your blade to try to avoid penetration & there may be an inch or two space between where the gap in the armour is, padding to get through, before you're actually into the poor unfortunates' fleash. Hence you need some length to achieve a deep enough cut to make him bleed out. As a fighting dagger some length is usefull even with unarmoured foes.
@rasnac
@rasnac 6 лет назад
"Say hello to my little friend!" :D
@chabis
@chabis 6 лет назад
And with a blade length of > 30cm it should be legal in Switzerland. Just in case somebody asks. Since the blade is not actually symmetrical it should be no problem anway, though.
@Ascaron1337
@Ascaron1337 6 лет назад
Peter Guhl Your comment sais "since it is *bigger* than 30cm it is legal in switzerland." Did you realy mean that?
@chabis
@chabis 6 лет назад
Hinterfragen! Yes.
@Smackosynthesis
@Smackosynthesis 6 лет назад
I think I had a crappy rondel dagger when I was a young teen. Don't remember what happened to it.
@-MCMLXXII-
@-MCMLXXII- 6 лет назад
It's a beautiful little piece of work, it's just too bad it's only really good for spindling people with mostly? I mean, it's got a blade, you can cut with it, I assume, but that's not really what it's best at. Still though, it's a gorgeous poker.
@Doyle_Lorean2105
@Doyle_Lorean2105 6 лет назад
Would rondel daggers, Scottish dirks and irish scians, of this blade type originate from the bollock dagger, and could they have been spread in the viking age through Norse influence .
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 6 лет назад
Joseph Doyle I don't believe so.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 6 лет назад
I'm not certain, but from what I've gathered the rondel dagger was used when plate armor became widespread, so it's likely that they came into fashion after the Viking Age.
@EattinThurs61
@EattinThurs61 6 лет назад
Joseph Doyle I think that Scottish Dirks where mostly repurporsed sword tips whilst Rondels seem more built to shape and what really resemble them today are oyster knifes.
@Doyle_Lorean2105
@Doyle_Lorean2105 6 лет назад
Yeah I'd heard that one about Scottish Dirks being repurposed from sword tips, but only swords which have a flaw or failure during manufacture will require repurposing. Thats my only issue with that, like repurposed dagger blades would only take up a portion of what you could call the dagger market at the time, and a larger number of blades would of been purpose built rather then repurposed.
@EattinThurs61
@EattinThurs61 6 лет назад
Joseph Doyle they are also found on the Battlefield strewn about...
@Tyrhor
@Tyrhor 6 лет назад
Why are all the rondel daggers you show so oversized? All the museum pcs I've seen were about 30 cm long. This looks over 40. Could it be due to the English specifics? (I have experiences mostly from Germany, Austria and Czech republic) Or is it due to the reneacment?
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 6 лет назад
Vojtěch Nosek I usually see a lot of blades (rusted) in museums and usually assume that the blade was bigger and the handle added a few extra centimetres to what survived the past centurys)
@Tyrhor
@Tyrhor 6 лет назад
Yet I've seen ones, that didn't rusted at all, still in the 30-35 cm range. The issue here is, if you actually try to use a dagger in combat (safe one, of course) if the blade is significantly longer than you forearm, it gets difficult to use it...
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 6 лет назад
Vojtěch Nosek I have forearms barely that long and no intention of trying but suspect that an item, later replaced with a sword will profit of extra length.
@Tyrhor
@Tyrhor 6 лет назад
Thank you very much for the answer.
@richardpashos
@richardpashos 6 лет назад
miller Peshek dagger
@MrMonsterwar
@MrMonsterwar 6 лет назад
Plot twist: Matt is really Tod.
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 6 лет назад
Imagine how weird and distressing it ha to feel to try to get one of these into someone's armor gaps o through their clothes to kill them. At the time you're grappling with them and they're fighting for their life and you press against their gamberson and it slowly goes through, and they obviously react to the blade going in them, screaming and cursing. That's the kind of thing that leaves a memory that assaults you with torment at random moments while you're doing whatever, for the rest of your life.
@aaronsmith3484
@aaronsmith3484 2 года назад
3 year old comment but I have to say I’ve never thought about how horrific that would be.
@beerthug
@beerthug Год назад
@@aaronsmith3484 Better him than you, just saying. Still a nasty way to go.
@sb-ant6457
@sb-ant6457 6 лет назад
Want! , I'll have the perfect reach to poke and retrieve apple's from the bowl on the table, in a knightly fashion, to boot, anything with four knobs on it can't fail.
@connor712
@connor712 6 лет назад
I was really relieved to see that Matt is against racism. Had me worried for a second there!
@CAP198462
@CAP198462 6 лет назад
Tod dagger, todger?
@ktoth29
@ktoth29 6 лет назад
whoa a cutler who's last name is cutler?
@strider4life696
@strider4life696 6 лет назад
Good for assassins.
@Vladokaza
@Vladokaza 6 лет назад
"Gentle stabbing"
@AivarPC
@AivarPC 6 лет назад
My love for Matt and his content doubles every single time he makes a sexual joke.
@s.w.4409
@s.w.4409 6 лет назад
Matt is embracing the meme!
@beardedbjorn5520
@beardedbjorn5520 6 лет назад
I got gently shanked in prison once. We are pen pals to this day
@gerhardengelbrecht9116
@gerhardengelbrecht9116 3 года назад
7:35 I was an adventurer like you until I took a rondell to the knee.
@cwxdaf152
@cwxdaf152 6 лет назад
They are not as expensive as I was expecting. God, how can I justify buying one with my savings. Git.
@cwxdaf152
@cwxdaf152 6 лет назад
You just cost me £98.50 (with the postage) and now I'm poor. I was going to get the quillon dagger but it sold out as I was looking at it.
@themastermason1
@themastermason1 6 лет назад
The wood looks like English Walnut.
@ariochiv
@ariochiv 6 лет назад
Ah, for a moment I thought his name is "Tod Cutler." How cool would that have been? :D
@ErwinPommel
@ErwinPommel 6 лет назад
Would've been a fine example of nominative determinism in action.
@TheAnon26
@TheAnon26 6 лет назад
I was kind of hoping this would be an april fools thing... :/
@Jazzman-bj9fq
@Jazzman-bj9fq 6 лет назад
Steel, pointy objects interesting? Of course!!!
@R8V10
@R8V10 6 лет назад
Love that t-shirt!
@dawudmc
@dawudmc 6 лет назад
NICE SHIRT!
@rickedyrektd1895
@rickedyrektd1895 6 лет назад
ay
@walkerhumphrey181
@walkerhumphrey181 6 лет назад
Should your favorite collectible. Better be careful to not refer to it as a weapon.
@walkerhumphrey181
@walkerhumphrey181 6 лет назад
Why the duck did someone favorite an unintelligible autocorrect?
@RovingPunster
@RovingPunster 6 лет назад
I suppose the pommel rondel doubles as a 'Bitch silencer' ... a gentle whack or two usually settles em down nicely (totally kidding BTW). Think of it as a 15th century analog of a 'hush puppy' silencer on a pistol. 😉
@LuxTheSlav
@LuxTheSlav 6 лет назад
"penetration"
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 6 лет назад
You got in there first.
@LuxTheSlav
@LuxTheSlav 6 лет назад
I didn't need to see a second of the video to know it would come up sooner or later :D
@jamesbaseman7297
@jamesbaseman7297 6 лет назад
Fighting agains racism...are you kidding me...is there no place left without politics!!??
@lexlols
@lexlols 6 лет назад
When you're at the point where you consider being against racism as a political statement, you really need to start questioning your politics.
@1squeamishneophyte
@1squeamishneophyte 6 лет назад
Oh please, by "without politics", what you really mean is without politics you don't like. Man, it's so hard to try and put myself into the mindset of someone who takes their own political supremacy for granted to the point that they actually see themselves and their values as apolitical.
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 5 лет назад
@@lexlols the thing is people consider things racist that arent or vice versa
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