Roy Jones Jr is the most skillful boxer who've ever lived in his prime. To me, he is the greatest of the great fighters. Not only he had power in both hands, he also had mastered skill and strategy as well. History in its sobriete will agree with that someday.
Ceaser Chavez is 3 times the fighter Jones will ever be. Jones isn’t top 5. You have Dempsey, Joe Louis, Tyson, Chavez, Foreman. Do you really think Jones could have handled Hagler?
@@fyre1borne All these fighters were gifted with different abilities and skills. Some of them were even blessed with mental toughness. Roy Jones however had mastered the science of boxing in general. In his prime no one has ever put up a real fight against him. He had all the ammunition in his arsenal and used them flawlessly. He rarely goes to distance. He can obliterate an opponent in an instant effortlessly.
@@adfe05d83 Roy Jones Jr. is one of the most overrated fighters ever! Not sure of your age but Roy would have been obliterated by a prime T. Hearns, R. Leonard, M. Hagler, R. Duran, W. Benitez, Ray Robinson, Carlos Monzon, Nigel Benn, and the Hawk Julian Jackson would have sent Roy out on stretcher! At Roy's prime (and fighting top fighters in their prime) he was completely boring and ordinary in his biggest (and only) 2 wins, B. Hopkins I and J. Toney. At light-heavyweight, it would have been even worse for a prime Roy vs. a prime E. Holyfield, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Bob Foster, Michael Spinks, Ezzard Charles, and Archie Moore of 130 K.O.'s fame - please go and study the unbelievable record of "The Mongoose". Roy Jones Jr. was fast and flashy, fought in a very weak era and rode a hype train to fame and fortune to his credit. He was not supremely skilled, terrible boxing stance/guard, had a rarely used and poorly thrown jab, typically threw wild (guard down) hooks, had inconsistent follow-thru on power punches. He did throw the uppercut well and had nimble feet to keep distance in his favor. His fights were typically boring because he didn't truly dominate opponents far inferior to him with just a handful of exceptions. Skill-wise, he couldn't carry Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s nor Larry Holmes jock straps. I recommend you go back to the boxing lab, my friend. Chase TMH!
@@fyre1borne Did I hear you say Jones isn't top 5? He isn't even top 5 middleweight nor light-heavyweight, let alone top 5 of all time! Roy would be given great favor to make a top 50 all time in a pound for pound showdown. Just off the top of my head, he is inferior to: a prime T. Hearns, R. Leonard, M. Hagler, R. Duran, W. Benitez, Ray Robinson, Carlos Monzon, Nigel Benn, and the Hawk Julian Jackson would have sent Roy out on stretcher! At LHW, he's miles behind a prime: E. Holyfield, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Bob Foster, Michael Spinks, Ezzard Charles, and Archie Moore of 130 K.O.'s fame - "The Mongoose". Roy Jones Jr. is one of the most overrated fighters ever! . Chase TMH!
@@manofgod3080 I strongly disagree. I get it, you are not a fan of Roy Jones. As for me, he's the only full package boxer I've ever seen. He makes boxing look easy. There is no amunition he diid not have in his arsenal. That makes him the most explosive fighter ever in his prime. He rarely goes to distance, may be that's why you didn't enough time to appreciate his talent. If you go back and match his archive with any of these guys, you too will discover his superiority over them all.
@@IAMCAMO904weight lost wrecked him. Tarver boxing skills was trash and his only highlight was closing his eyes and hitting Roy. Proof Bernard dominated him
Lol, second round: "That was a lead right hand that backed Roy into the corner". Yeah... what about the DAMN HEADBUTT? Hopkins lead right hand followed by that intentional headbutt is something else. He truly mastered it.
I liked Roy Jones Jr in the clutch! Bernard fought a dirty fight, deliberate low blow, head butt, and all the time he took off! Roy beat him fare and square in 1993 when it really counted!!!
Anyone else notice how Roy pushed everyone back away from his son around 47:45? True father no matter where he's at. Even pushed his own father back. He's the only one that can discipline his son. Great man.
I love how people say Roy was past his prime, but not Hopkins, even though Hopkins is like 5 years older than Roy. You see that's the difference, Hopkins didn't rely more on his athelticism than his actual skills where Roy relied more on his athletic abilities, but as you get older they all fade away. Thats why Hopkins won, his style can be boring, but more effective and that's what matters
Roy at his best was very difficult for a conventional fighter to deal with, which is why Hopkins & Toney couldn't cope with prime Jones. When Jones lost his athleticism he only had his experience & cunning left as replacements, & sometimes, like here, it wasn't enough.
Can't compare the two in that aspect. Hopkins played it safe in fights throughout his entire career and is also an exception to every rule physically. The man is the biggest example of an anomaly if there ever was one, which is why they call him "the Alien". That being said, last time I checked, B-Hop didn't cut 25 lbs of solid muscle that would've permanently ruined his punch resistance, taken away his legs, and diminished his athletic ability like it did Roy. Age isn't necessarily the main factor in determining who's the least far past it. Jones' career after that 25 lb muscle loss is proof of that.
Roy was a physical freak and his peak was defined by his reflexes and speed. Hopkins was the picture of discipline and craft. Much like Toney, his peak was defined by his wisdom and experience.
@@joetursi9573 they fought in '93 when both were young, Jones won. They fought in '10 when they were both old, Hopkins won. If they had fought in say, '99 or '00, I think Jones wins easily. He was just so fast I don't think Hopkins could have done much to catch up with him.
zues2013 That's not a very good theory. All black fighters don't fight the same; not even these two fight the same every time, just sometimes, both of these fighters will throw an entire fight away (like the first time they fought). Since styles make fights, it's probably not a good idea to put two highly defensive fighters against each other.
zues2013 how can you say this was a boring fight? especially after the melee that broke out after the low blow and both boxers ignored the bell-were you watching a different fight?
Not going to lie, Roy Jones is one of the most elusive fighters in almost any period...that being said, many fighters can juke one another, however the chin on a fighter is the most serious formidable outlook
You say exceptional athleticism for Roy...based on what? He was flashy with tassels on his boxing boots and had fast hands? Where does exceptional come into the picture? I think you got thrown into a media hype train, there was nothing exceptional about Roy. Not one thing. If there had been, in his 2 biggest fights (both wins) while in his prime versus the 2 best fighters he ever fought (while in their primes) B. Hopkins & J. Toney, the whole world would have seen and remembered "exceptional athleticism"! Yet, nobody remembers those fights, nobody gets together with a group of friends to re watch them. They were both boring fights. Bernard was a real one though, his career does have some very impressive moments. Roy Jones Jr. is one of the most overrated fighters ever!
@@manofgod3080 football basketball boxing he'd hand you your behind in a second. he was known for that. you just don't like him. fine. you're entitled to your opinion.
Hopkins is a living legend, you can't take that away from him. However, during the mid 90 ' s Roy and James Toney dominated the middle, super middleweight divisions. Hopkins peaked and the other two had moved up to different weight divisions. None the less they have all achieved greatness, but I understand people's opinions as they have their favorites. I would have stacked it in this order, 1) Roy Jones 2) James Toney (my personal favorite of all time) 3) Bernard Hopkins
Also Toney and Hopkins had a lot longer longevity still winning. Roy got older started getting kod a bunch of times. Toney and Hop were much more successful in their older years than Roy.
Yea bro, I can agree to ur top 3 picks.. I too was an avid fan of Toney but Roy has always been right up there for me. Peace n love to you sir, an greetings from Australia , way up North.♥️☮️
rjj in his prime had a speed and power combo that was incredible. Toney was great too, great defense. Of all the 'greats' I've never really found Hopkins all that fascinating to watch. Too much clinching, not enough precision punching for my tastes.
Whoever said Roy is not in the top 20 is right roy is in the top 10 in his his prime he was a beast!!! Knocking dudes out with bodyshots breaking they ribs he beat all the greats in his era yeah after a while he took random fights that's bc there was no one to fight !!! The only reason he lost to tarver was bc he just won the heavyweight title and drop weight and step into a big match to fast if he would've waited we wouldn't be talking about a Hopkins 2 in less it was a title fight so in my book Jones is top 10.
+Catherine Joy Bernard wsd indeed a dirty fighter and this rematch was pointless after so many years..it should have happend shortly after the first fight
Roy Jones didn't look that hungry in this rematch, it seems like he just took it just for the hell of it. I wish he would have been more active and engaged more, throw more punches, etc., because I know very well he had the skills and capability to really hurt Hopkins. And what's with the dirty tactics from Hopkins? Its funny cause Roy Jones took them dirty shots very well and was able to brush it off and not make such a big deal of it, but when he did them back to Hopkins, he reacted like a bitch lol.
@Marshall L Smith Reminds me of Ali a bit and a lot like Holyfield. Ali an actor because he was too scared to fight for the nation where he earned most of his cash, Holyfield because he cheated, no matter what it took, to win or hold onto a title. Once Holyfield ran into Lennix Lewis, Holyfield couldn't get close enough to clash heads.....although he tried.
Boxing is the best ever in history , Boxing is the pinnacle , Boxing is my most favorite ever in history , Boxing is my one and only love ever in history , Boxing is my blood , Boxing is my life.
Paul Harvey yeah im sure any "half decent" MMA fighter would love to hug on the ground with a boxing great. Boxing is a striking sport, not rolling on the ground grabbing each others balls for 3 mins. Tyson in his prime would 1 hit KO any MMA figher out there
You don't sound like the type of boxer that hugs dudes for 12 rounds or acts like Floyd running away from your opponent...you sound like the type of boxer that actually gets in the ring and fights...that's what we all need!!!!....real boxing!!!!
+Paul Harvey sure an mma fighter would "murder" a boxer in an mma fight, but you're fucking insane if you think an mma fighter beats a legend like these two in a boxing match
Roy Jones could've been a retired undefeated pound for pound great if he hadn't moved up to heavyweight. The weight cut back to Light Heavyweight ruined his career. He came back to Light Heavyweight with a piss poor performance en route to Majority Decision against Antonio Tarver. He then fought him in a rematch and got brutally knocked out. It's sad to see him now. Retire now Roy. You had your time.
+Dimitrije Dk I was with Roy's camp in this fight (you can see me toward the end of the vid I had tears in my eyes) and I'm also in some shots at the weigh in. Going in to the fight, I had concerns Roy would not fair well. Here's the deal: Hopkins is a bitch,. In their prime when it counted, Roy beat that ass. Hopkins aged better and so decided to go around and bully guys close to his age who whipped his ass back in the day, so fuck him. Second, I teared up a little because I knew that was it for Roy. It wasn't because he lost, it's like when your favorite athlete plays his last game.
No if's, Roy went 50- 0 so very easily could have retired the greatest ever no questions asked (and still did IMO).But he's not about that (like some boxers today). The books show 49-1 but everyone knows from an ass-beating perspective he went 50-0. Roy wasn't feeling challenged so wanted to do things that nobody had seen i generations (if ever). He truly did much of his (post 50-0) activity for one reason: to save try and save boxing He felt it was dying as a sport (and it was) and I ll never forget him saying (a few months before Ruiz fight) how he realizes people were doubting him but it was drawing interest and that's what mattered to him (and meant every fu*king word of that). Oh, and beat that ass too. One thing I can tell you, he wasn't hurting for money. At all. He is just very competitive and there was nothing wrong with him going down swinging. Lots of MFers cherry-pick and sit on that record. Roys old skool.
@george delairre You sound like a girl. At that level fighting dirty is done by all fighters. Taking 15 mins was to slow Roy down so he can't gain the momentum. Roy is used to stalking, and around the 3rd and 4th round, Bernard was walking Roy Jones down. As soon as Hop's team sensed RJJ didnt have the same swag he usually has, BHop started living in his head rent free.
I lost a lot of respect for Bhop after this fight. He faught dirty the whole fight while he was up on points the entire time. Shows a complete lack of integrity for a champion of his caliber.
Bernard was faking to be hurt just to rest up, but he initiated all the low blows and hitting behind the head shots. I always thought Bernard was a dirty fighter and sneaky with it.
It sucks when age is the difference in fights its only natural after so many fights or so many years everyone wants to see both in their prime fight Bernard is a great boxer and so was Roy jones jr nothing bad to say about either .
That’s the only way Bernard could’ve won...and I know he knew that. Roy’s the real champ, never backing down or waiting on anybody...I would watch a Jones fight over a Hopkins fight any day. Hopkins is the most boring hall of famer ever...
+Geo... What is really shameful is how everyone kinds of says it with awe about a "rough Philly fighter" who knows "all the dirty tricks" I guess if nobody is going to call you on it, more power to you!
Not Hopkins' finest moment. He had the win in the bag in terms of better technique. He did not need to indulge in all the fouling, Roy Jones was only retaliating and rightly so since Weeks was not protecting him. As a BHop fan, this fight was a great disappointment and you have to think that emotion - 17 years of it all bottled up - got the better of him on fight night. I think he was scared of losing to Jones Jr again, so pulled out every trick in the book even though he really didn't need to.
Exactly. Well said. Hopkins was an embarrassment in this fight. Was obvious he wasn't confident in beating Roy with boxing alone, so he did every dirty trick he's always done in one fight. Very disappointed and I'm sure if he's honest with himself, he himself will regret 'winning' this way.
in his hay day Roy Jones was vicious man, but once he got put to sleep by weak ass Tarver it was a wrap after that still one of the greats and could of possibly been the greatest right after Ali had he kept winning
Roy Jones should have never dropped 25lbs of muscle just like that, and considering he was in him mid 30s,that ruined him. Same fate happened to Tarver when he fought Hopkins.
I never hear anybody talk about Bernard Hopkins. When we are talking about boxing. But every time someone talks about great Fighters. Roy Jones jr. Name always comes up. In his prime or the greatest Fighters we've ever seen. Roy Jones jr. Was a beast
invisiblepker Umm no he didn't. Get your facts straight idiot. He tested for something called Ripped Fuel one time, which is an OVER THE COUNTER supplement. Never, ever took steroids.
It's quite common for on the counter supplements to have been mixed in the same vats as the companies used to make steroids in and not clean them properly which taints them. It's the argument they're using for Jon Jones in UFC now.
two legend of the sport for sure,Roy Jones no doubt in his prime was the better fighter, but when you think of his amature pedigree that is hardly surprising. what made Roy so good is his athletic ability as soon as that faded so did he. Hopkins came up the hard way he found boxing while in prison, then went on to rule the middleweight division for 10 years. before becoming the oldest man to win a world title at 46 and again at 48. then became the oldest man to unify a divison and now if he can beat kovalev he will be the oldest undisputed champion in boxing history and as far as im aware the first person since holyfield to become a undisputed champion in two weight classes thats what makes hopkins a legend
Actually, what makes Hopkins be capable of fighting at such age is the fact that he never had an amateur career. Fights are fights, doesn't matter with you have headgear on or not. That's why guy with 300 amateur fights don't last much, because they already wasted some of their tank in their amateur career.
You’re a fuckin dumbass and it shows both of these niggas were past their prime wayyyyyyyy past this second fight took 17 years Roy beat him in both of their primes
***** I'm a big BHop fan but lmfao at him. Cmon man that's so delusional of him, I've seen the video though. Would possibly be the worst fight in terms of excitement EVER.
@Dedrick ‘Dooky’ Gobert did Roy stay disciplined and make 20 title defenses in one weight class? Did Roy become the oldest person to win a major title 3 different times?
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Everything said about Hopkins' behavior was spot-on. He was a cheap-shot artist and a drama queen. Thing is he set the tone and dominated this fight. Overwhelmingly disappointed in Roy's lackadaisical effort, nearly zero offensive production or pressure. No truly memorable punches or flurries. incredibly poor performance.
Yes it did, Hopkins took that Easter Bag & showed (or proved to) the boxing World who needed the contents inside. The only thing the fight didn't prove was there was no title on the line, probably neither was looking to regain one, rather settle unfinished business. Hopkins evened the score.
proved that hopkins would and did try everything....faking the head hits when he was hitting roy on the head damn near the whole fight...hopkins hit roy with a low blow 2 the private parts roy never fell when hopkins got hit it bcame wwe moad waste of tickets and people's ⏰ and $👑✡
Charles Tilley no it didn’t, it’s a old Roy, look at his last fight, maybe if Hopkins would’ve did this the first time or even in the 90’s via rematch then it would, but rn, shit doesn’t mean nun 😂😂
Charles Tilley I like both fighters, but Roy Jones at this point was damaged goods. He had been clocked, knocked out multiple times already prior to stepping in the ring with Hopkins in 2010. Meanwhile Hopkins hadn’t gotten knocked out at all, barely even gotten clipped bad up until this point. And you can say Hopkins reached his prime at a much later age, he knocked Trinidad and Oscar out and he was nearing 40 years old at that point, everything was in Hopkins favor.
@@manofgod3080 It only seems that way to immature and unsophisticated fight fans. You speak like a child with a short attention span, like you only read books with a lot of big pictures and large type font lol. You casuals always snitch on yourselves.
@@brandnew9834 snitch on yourselves? L🤣L!! This coming from the goofy who chose the moniker "brand new". And that is what you obviously are if you think RJJ is one of the best of all time. I've forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever learn. RJJ's 2 best opponents (still in their prime) as was Roy, were B-Hop & J. Toney...Did Roy show up as an all time great in either fight? Is either fight MEMORABLE or worth watching twice? Now think about Ali/Liston, Ali/Frazier, Ali/Foreman, Leonard/Hearns, Leonard/Duran, Hearns/Hagler, Hearns/Duran, Holyfield/Bowe, Holyfield/Tyson, Wilder/Fury, Mayweather/Corrales, Mayweather/Cotto, Mayweather/Canello Alvarez and on and on...greatness shows up in the biggest moments, understand lil brand new. Come back for another lesson anytime youngin. Chase TMH!