RS4 V8 engine tear down after other garage ''rebuild'' it for 12.000£ but shortly after it seized

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Welcome to another video.
This time we have a car in the workshop which was bought as spare or repairs cheap. Reason why the car ended up as spare or repairs was a previous bill for £12.000 and the engine meant to be rebuilt. The new owner wants to have the car sorted so first we have to find out what's the damage and what we can use for rebuilding. After I removed the engine I had a bit of mixed up feelings WTF happened and why would somebody actually do that ....
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@montage12333 Месяц назад

You can send the oil off to be forensically inspected to see its contents that would be interesting

@alexandergreenfield91 Месяц назад

My thoughts exactly 💪🏼

@RATADATUAVELHA Месяц назад

more money? why? the dead end was reached...and even if was the incorrect oil? lawyers, more money, time, stress that becomes anger,...sleepless nights. I don't know how the law works in their country but in mine it's very slow, specially in cases like this that no murderer was done.

@alexandergreenfield91 Месяц назад

@@RATADATUAVELHA it's a12k job that ruined an engine and then cost probably another 16k to fix. Probably worth the £80 an oil sample would cost, especially if they have left in oil flush / totally the wrong oil or similar, as they're then blatantly responsible.

@The_Noticer. Месяц назад

Maybe mineral oil? But the bottom end wasn't rebuilt....

@dalesmit7869 Месяц назад

Please also check the gearbox oil. You might find cooking oil there

@sergeyrudnitskiy7579 Месяц назад

Appreciate your video Tomas! Poor owner, but he is in good hands finally. Cheers from Sweden.

@mattbanagan Месяц назад

This is such an underrated channel

@AUDIDOIT Месяц назад

The RS4 is in the right place now.. 12k rebuild and they never checked the cats…🤦🏼‍♂️…Great vid guys. Enjoyed the vampire humour comment. 🦇 Really feel for the owner, but at least he knows it will be done right this time. 🙏🏻

@themalewhale59 Месяц назад

Heartbreaking to see. That oil was not fit to lube my Kawasaki drive chain. 😢 🤠 at work at last place - yeeha!!!

@TPGClaudio Месяц назад

Curious with your engine removals would you be able to show a clock when you're removing the engine to show how much time is being spent on removing?

@jimmerritt2860 Месяц назад

Great video as always guys thank you 😊

@rook13pdx Месяц назад

Great channel. Thanks for another one. I'm always looking for B7 RS4 content, but watch them all. Thanks again.

@aussietesla7821 Месяц назад

great stuff! very informative thankyou

@Evo836 Месяц назад

How did you get on with the Hybrid V6 on the last car did it have to be sent off to fix 24 volt system.

@lavina58 Месяц назад

Nice video, thanks 🙌👍👌😊🍀

@user-lg9wr4hw6l Месяц назад

great work lads keep it up

@fernandoalva1655 Месяц назад

Great job, wish you guy where here in Big island Hawaii . We need experts like you

@miceinoz1181 Месяц назад

Clearly your depth of knowledge is substatial on these vehicles. Where did you do your training on them? Were you a dealer tech in the past? Interesting to learn your background.

@jimmcculloch3786 Месяц назад

Great video, thank you :)

@jackpalczynski7884 Месяц назад

That oil looks exactly like used 55k mile Subaru CVT fluid. I just pulled a CVT so had a good look at it and it looks like what you found. Doesn't really smell that much, though.

@stuartwinstanley4949 Месяц назад

You really do know your stuff on these Audi's 👍

@stenRS Месяц назад

i really enjoy watching your videos.

@Vikturus22 Месяц назад

I cant wait to hear about the shop in question getting crap from everyone. Name and shame!

@grahamek86 Месяц назад

Watching the car roll back slightly as you lean over the engine bay - I feel that in my calfs already lol.

@Johnny16781 Месяц назад

Well at least it will be fine and the job done right, top job as always 😁

@sylvesterkasimeni4637 Месяц назад

It's the little things that make the biggest difference.👌

@evansbuluma4693 Месяц назад

Good intro!😄

@HoMeRs19991 Месяц назад

I have college who just rebuilt his Jeep grand cherokee and it seized up after 10 km and bill was 10 000 euro. Also crankshaft bearing problem.

@philsheldon2737 Месяц назад

How much would a new block from the main dealers cost out of interest?

@SL-of9nl Месяц назад

You have an interesting and meanwhile very hard work of fixing powerful engines as a rule damaged by foolish assarmed unqualified "garage masters". It's really nice to see how you working with explanation every step in rebuilding process.

@MrBeboopman Месяц назад

Should be in Ireland.. its pissing rain with 6 months.😅 great video as always..

@RATADATUAVELHA Месяц назад

it's the end of the world mate....here was 25C on Wednesday and today, they give snow for the weekend above 1200m.

@f0x4nn3 Месяц назад

Looks like CVT oil, green and stinking like hell.

@paulduff9257 Месяц назад

The gearbox oil you found could it be hydraulic oil ? Hydraulic 32 is green like the oil you found just a thought,

@timessix8434 Месяц назад

Love the bigger engines, this was great! It looked strangely clean inside… (behind the backplate and under the cam covers) Have you done a 4.0TT at some point? Thanks?

@fedezotter Месяц назад

Have you considered sending the block to get laser welded and then machined to the right diameter? There is a company in Germany that does this kind of repairs. They are called Subi performance, maybe you know them. I just mention this in the case it could help you.

@fulvioplatania3091 Месяц назад

great job…pity the unlucky owner spent so much money for nothing. I hope in UK some judge could push the seller to refound all…

@aqib2000 Месяц назад

Not the seller! The £12k repair garage

@fulvioplatania3091 Месяц назад

@@aqib2000 sure…apologize for my mistake.

@webb-1 Месяц назад

That green tint to the oil could be a mix of normal oil mixed with something like Liqui Moly Molygen or with any green engine oil

@schoona90 Месяц назад

Epic video. Poor guy. What’s the process for ‘warranty’ from the previous workshop in the UK ? I’m in Australia, where are you sourcing spare parts from ? Can’t use you as a workshop, that’s all.

@skendrish Месяц назад

Can you give more details on sleeving just one cylinder and who does this? Is it steel or alusil? All resources in the USA I've consulted with want to sleeve all 8?

@Mac_F87 Месяц назад

Cats seem to be a bit too uncommon issue on the B8 and 8.5 RS4. Seen a few with the same thing.

@marosmaksin241 Месяц назад

I hope the video will be soon on the sk channel :)

@mrglowe5452 Месяц назад

I have a challenging issue with my 2008 Audi S5 4.2 (186,000 km) that I hope you can help with. About 1-2 days after washing the engine (3 months ago), I started experiencing misfires in cylinder 2, but only under load, specifically when hitting around 3500+ RPM with about 20-30% throttle. The car runs smoothly without misfires when driven gently without pushing it. Here’s what I’ve done so far: Replaced all spark plugs and coils Changed the injector in cylinder 2 Performed an oil service and installed a new battery Replaced the engine mount on the driver's side Conducted a compression test which showed good results Despite these changes, the misfire in cylinder 2 persists. I even tried relocating the plugs and coils, but the problem remains. Any insights or advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated!

@guyhitchcock6514 Месяц назад

Coolant was low before you started the work, could it be oil cooler leak into oil? To make it smell I wonder , curtainly the bottom end main cap was not a match to the block. Keep up the great work and videos lads Really appreciate 👍🏻

@chrispy104k Месяц назад

If there was coolant in the oil system that would have been obvious at the instant the oil drain plug was removed (ie: the coolant would come out first). In the absence of any comment to that effect the assumption is that there was no contamination.

@ewwmin3m Месяц назад

do you guys get a lot of the 3.0 supercharged around there ?

@derekcable Месяц назад

The oil looks very thin maybe it was running/bedding in oil ?

@Jokesxxl Месяц назад

Can that engine block not been welded and machined (line bored)?

@dakavanagh Месяц назад

Is it possible to take a liner from the bad block to use in that new/used one you talked about?

@einfelder8262 Месяц назад

No.

@GermanWhip-3900 Месяц назад

Really feel it for this owner. Can't believe how over hyped these cars are bearing in mind well documented design flaws and stellar repair bills. I wouldn't be swallowing a 12k bill so easily.

@theenglishtrucker1849 Месяц назад

Great to see our English sarcasm wearing off on you. I really like the way you explain everything and want to do a proper job and not bodge things. If I need my 2006 B7 2.0TFSI rebuilt, I will deffo be in touch. Its currently on 175k and unable to move due to crap Hella fuel pump letting me down. Fitting a genuine one on Sat, really hope it starts🤞🤞😁

@johnperl6909 Месяц назад

Hi guys love the content. What happened to the hybrid car

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

Working on it

@Dabblefarm Месяц назад

@@VAGTechnic are these the same common faults as the B7 rs4 engines? should they have changed the main and rod bearings as just a preventive?

@tam1381 Месяц назад

When I saw the oil draining I thought the oil looked too thick ? I am obviously wrong but visually it does look odd.

@einfelder8262 Месяц назад

What's the bet they put the first main bearing upside down, blocking the feed hole.

@robertslegers257 Месяц назад

Could you have an oil analysis performed on the engine oil ? Could owner seek a refund from previous shop?

@Nyx_88888 Месяц назад

lets go!

@alexandergreenfield91 Месяц назад

Is it possible that it's a "flushing agent" they've left in the engine and not then replaced with oil?

@ignaciomiranda7579 Месяц назад

they did the same with my old S4, they destroyed the engine and blamed it on me, I made the BIG mistake of signing reception before driving the car. Bastards

@Slapbladder Месяц назад

Sounds like the oil could be mixed with power steering fluid if its green and smells like gearbox oil. I wonder if someone had taken that bottom end cradle from another car which caused the bearing spin.....

@markusfpv1349 Месяц назад

I believe in later VW group vehicles power steering is electric so there is no oil to pump in power steering

@mydimeisup5103 Месяц назад

@@markusfpv1349 Yeah B8.0 had power steering but B8.5 moved to electric with no fluid.

@paulp96275 Месяц назад

I think someone is taking the piss engine rebuilt by Bob the builder the oil would need sampling because as you say it’s rubbish probably an hydraulic oil you don’t take your Rolls to jack shits workshop you take it to professionals like your selves Great videos as usual and I always look forward to the next one great work boys 👍🇬🇧

@brizax Месяц назад

👏 ❤

@adrianculley458 Месяц назад

Could you not send out the block for line boring

@chrisdunn7936 Месяц назад

That block can be welded and re align honed… very simple repair

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

Can you do it with warranty?

@chrisdunn7936 Месяц назад

No, not with manufacturers warranty…. But I’m guessing because it’s in your workshop that it is outside of factory warranty? I am a professional, performance engine builder and have carried out this repair many,many times… with fantastic success… didn’t mean to appear rude or arrogant. Just thought I could suggest another option for you and your customer

@paulmichael3844 Месяц назад

Should do a follow up on the owner to see if he got any money back from that garage

@lifeslooker Месяц назад

this is why we get experts like VAG to look at these things. looks like the engine in there is 2nd hand since there are no markings on it. 12k to have a car not run? nah, that's sad and downright out of order. rip off. first place i take my car to, is these guys. not even audi. nah. wicked fault find, looking forward to seeing the next video on this.

@TheStickCollector Месяц назад

Well then

@gingerdude94 Месяц назад

Money pit

@jabberwockytdi8901 Месяц назад

Green? sounds like power steering etc. oil

@plugman1963 Месяц назад

What happened to the Audi with the mild hybrid problem?

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

Working on it

@38skippers Месяц назад

Perth 28° West Australia 😏

@MichaelDrowley Месяц назад

Imagine all that happened because the apprentice put in gearbox oil!

@robertslegers257 Месяц назад

Did the wrong oil cause the CAT failure?

@BarbecuedPossum Месяц назад

@@robertslegers257no

@dragonshadow3707 Месяц назад

Hey bud surely the guys that build the engine should be giving the money back or paying for the rebuild

@thetruth7633 Месяц назад

I would buy a 2nd RS4 (around 20K), use that engine for rebuild, keep the rest of the car as donor for parts or parts sell. Rebuild can then begin with running engine not repairing other peoples mess. Just my 2 cents.

@kungfuhustle6363 Месяц назад

Oil for rich people 😂😂. That got me

@davidsweet8829 Месяц назад

Maybe running in oil?

@agrubera75 Месяц назад

Looks like everyone wants a high performance car but no-one wants to spend a penny on maintennce and this is the result

@dalesmit7869 Месяц назад

Hopefully its not gearbox oil, Dodgy engine rebuilders use gearbox oil to make up for the crankshaft bearing tolerances. It eventually fails to the point of no return and so on and so on.

@derekcable Месяц назад

Maybe they used the old Duckham's hyper grade.....The green death.

@dalesmit7869 Месяц назад

@@derekcable where iam from an 75w90 is used

@derekcable Месяц назад

@@dalesmit7869 Could very well be the case.

@melvingrimes7886 Месяц назад

Motul brake in oil smells like gearbox oil and is very thin.

@MrRudiz13 Месяц назад

one reason some people might use gearbox oil in an engine-is in an attempt to "quiet" the engine. Gearbox oils typically have different additive packages designed to handle high pressure and shear forces, which can sometimes dampen engine noise temporarily if the engine is experiencing issues like lifter noise or bearing wear... here's your answer 😀 cowboy builders 😂

@chrispy104k Месяц назад

For the most part it seems that these cars are owned by people who only do corrective maintenance rather than preventative maintenance. The "She'll be right mate" attitude.

@Ben-in6qh Месяц назад

Was it a Birmingham car

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

London

@davidstocking1622 Месяц назад

That's another million pound spent😂😂

@adilchaudhry3058 Месяц назад

U can't repair the block?.....even for a spun bearing surely that could be saved

@jaygee6447 Месяц назад

Pot kettle black…

@Jeroensgambling Месяц назад

Sorry for the owner but if you cant maintain a RS4 then don't drive it or even consider giving it out for cheap labour or to skimp on costs. This video is a perfect example of that. I owned a B5 RS4 with 600HP for 3 years. Just the maintaince alone was 30g in those 3 years.

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

If only other knew like you know 😀

@Jeroensgambling Месяц назад

@@VAGTechnic I got confronted with 10k within the first 2 months; lmao. Quite some things that needed to be taken care off. Preventive maintenance will always be more expensive then when it absolutely needs to. Take into account on regular driving onto the ring obviously takes it's wear off of a 20 year old car. I've had so much fun with it - it was a beast. I considered getting a C5 RS6 but geezus that will add 50% more tax, fuel, insurance and everything else with it.

@bat33.12 Месяц назад

TPS profits up by £2m for all the parts required in this rebuild 😁 poor owner is now bankrupt or out robbing a bank on foot to pay the bill for his getaway car

@thmawhirt Месяц назад

I suspect that you've done so many of these engines that it isn't time lapse but actual speed on the video😁Shame people go for the "cheap" option and end up paying twice instead of going to the real experts first.

@danielfl.9347 Месяц назад

Did the costumer actually pay £12K for a shop to destroy the engine? And now has to use the same amount again?

@user-wj6zs7uq6l Месяц назад

Other 15000 pounds here and you could buy another one

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

And engine Will fail afterwards 👍

@DenHvideHund Месяц назад

100k miles... that's not much.

@vincentlaw82 Месяц назад

For an Audi 4.2 V8 FSI it is when maintenance is neglected. And all sorts of things can randomly fail even then.

@DenHvideHund Месяц назад

@@vincentlaw82 ya I guess you're right. I just couldn't wrap my head around why one with an RS would neglect service. Oh well, at least it's in good hands now.

@JordzyBrev Месяц назад

@@DenHvideHund because people want to look cool but won’t pay couple of 100s for services

@jamesward5721 Месяц назад

Lol. RS being the operative word. You'd need to be one to buy one. Great way to convert money into scrapyard ally melt.

@ro63rto Месяц назад

Surely the owner didn't pay all that £££ if it died on the ramp ???

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

I Dont know tbh , but there is invoice for it

@goddesseddog Месяц назад

lawyers?

@barrybritcher Месяц назад

Twelve quid. Bargain

@mk7gti911 Месяц назад

Maybe the new shitty VW 0W-20 oil

@Salmon_Rush_Die Месяц назад

You can probably pop those engines in & out in your sleep by now, eh?

@lavina58 Месяц назад

Happy owner 🤮

@funv3188 Месяц назад

Waste of time and money.. 💯. Owner could have just bought Vauxhall Astra 😂😂😂

@user-wj6zs7uq6l Месяц назад

With so much money already invested on it, He could had bought a New Engine

@VAGTechnic Месяц назад

Like the previous owner and new owner put the money together? 😀

@Kingy76 Месяц назад

Why do Audi make such a shit engine, love their cars but ticking time bombs 💙

@expofcam Месяц назад

4.2 is a very good engine, it needs regular and proper maintenance almost like any other high performance engine

@einfelder8262 Месяц назад

Maybe you could try and think intelligently - there are many thousands of Audi engines that do not end up like this, because the owners use the proper oil in them and change it as per schedule or more frequently. A shit rebuilder does not make an Audi engine shit, either. My 15 year old Audi engine is running trouble free. Yes mine is a sample of one properly maintained engine, but the engine in this video as also a sample of one - a mistreated engine requiring a rebuild and then being f*cked up by a shit mechanic.