This is an example of how to shut peoples mouths for good. They get you, they’ll destroy you and they’ll leave you pennyless. That’s what they consider fair.
You might feel differently if it were your mom or grandmother or wife who'd had their life put in jeopardy by Ghouliani's lies. Rudy made the choice to FAFO. Now he's getting what he deserves.
hi.. yes.. not only is he the clown... he was the top criminal in nyc coming from a long lineage of thieves... thugs... he is a thief and a liar... his father was also a thief... a gang member and a convicted felon... his daughter... despite her repentance..is also seen as a thief. ..but people continue to label him as the 'world's mayor.' can you imagine..be blessed.
The insanity was Rudy and the other MAGAt ghouls and gremlins unjustifiably targeting 2 innocent women and ruining their lives. This judgement is Rudy's comeuppance. FAFO. Maybe his dumpy orange buddy will help him out. Or perhaps Jared or Steve Mnuchin can slide Ghouliani a little Saudi cash.
Yeah well, Robbie, during Covid you had the AUDACITY to say that the esteemed Dr. Robert Malone said things that weren't right, and you repeatedly said that YOU were fully vaxxed and boosted.
Are these women worth 148 million? How were they defamed to be paid that amount? Totally unfair for that judge to award that amount who i think would never make that amount of money even if they work till they are 100 years old.😢😢😢
They are not "worth" anything from a money point of view. They are inherently worth as much as every other human being. Rudy did 150 million in bad deeds. That is why he is paying.
He spread hatred all over Georgia and the south. What the press and media did was reply his accusations. He called them on the phone he called them c.u.n.-, could you imagine him calling your mother those vile names and telling them he was going to get them. They had people
@@phyllisbrannagan5522you slammed a President as 'racist white nationalist' over this 'dogwhistle'- "You had people who were very fine people, on both sides.. and I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally-" Now pay up
It was a civil case of defamation. What part is the govt in this? Jury of citizens found him liable. The court is now enforcing the judgement. Grow up. Believe in justice and democracy. Turn off Fox News, extract yourself from the MAGA Echo Chamber. Are you intellectually 12?
*Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear* - Harry S. Truman
@@kennethshelhorse3556 You're assuming they did not break the law and the they are not being protected by the DEMS, I'm not saying they are, or am I, ummm The MAGA Crowd knows the truth - TRUMP 2024
well, i suppose its a bit tough to sue for defamation for something like that after the guy in question asked russia for help with his campaign on live tv lol you guys are great, good times, good times lol
@unitedwestand5205 inuendo is not fact. So guy yelling at a rally is not a crime. What Hillary did was, got off by paying $80 fine. If Trump did that he would be in jail for 25. Hillary and the Steele dossier was produced by Brookings by Igor Danshenko with full deep state support. I really hope many in the beaurocracy get held accountable for this, but likely never will.
As some would say question all you like. Telling (without validity) lies will be the problem. Attorneys should know this and that defamation is not covered under 1st Amendment.
Hypothetically, if someone were to cut off your legs, should you only get your net worth in a lawsuit. What happens to an 18 year old with no net worth? Should Mark Cuban get hundreds of millions and a truck driver get a couple hundred thousand? That is a gross world you want to live in.
@@kennethshelhorse3556 thats literary how Compensatory damages work. A professional dancer is owed more because they would make more money with those legs
@@kennethshelhorse3556 No, it is of one's capacity - Those people in question were clearly not of capacity to have lost nearly 150 million in their ability to earn, nor was their 'lost' social status that of such a sum. It's an utterly ridiculous amount levied against him rudy.
This is 100% bogus. From a Black man who was happy that he helped clean up NYC all those years ago, I hope he doing to be alright. This case against him is complete bs.
Yeah, and so is his election case being thrown out of over 60 courtrooms, including by Trump-appointed judges. And the fake elector scheme. And the Dominion defamation case. And the SA charge. That Republican-appointed judges would participate in Rudy's downfall is so unjust.
How is this a fair sentence? Nothing was done in terms of damages that make it worth this high of an amount. Were these two poll workers CEOs who got fired from their jobs due to tainted reputations?
@@geraldhull5241 Let's hear some more about that "rock solid evidence" you mentioned. Was this evidence presented in court? Did investigators have access to this rock solid evidence?
He deserve this - this is the consequence for his wrong actions. God bless America and its democracy. Even Fox News paid nearly a billion dollars for spreading fake election news.
@@renaunap2509 This isn't "lawfare" at all. Like "woke" or "CRT" and other misapplied terms, "lawfare" is yet another word that MAGAts have discovered and decided to ignore the definition of and/or make up a definition to better fit their narrative.
This is what happens when smart, intelligent, educated, and well-connected people goes out and conduct themselves without guardrails. Send the message. Mark Twain once said, " If it wasn't for the fools, how do we know who we are?"
Why stop at 150 million. Make it 150 billion. Might as well since number is just a number and don't mean anything. I guess the law of disapproportion punishment to the crime is for sure not a law to many judges. Judges are now the king, let me show you my power what I can do to you little guy.
Yeah, like Robbie said, it's not like he even laid a hand on them. They're fine. I'd think a couple hundred grand each would be huge for this. They weren't trying to make the ladies whole, they were trying to ruin a political opponent.
You're clueless. An expert in reputation repair concluded it would take $150 mill to repair their reputations. That's a real number to help the injured. it is not a punishment.
@@deadgolfer6345 Ghouliani ruined himself. The man was respected and admired by so many after 9/11, but he squandered of the positivity and goodwill that he received.
@@bartc1240Yeah because one side refused to even consider there might have been some election irregularities. Our elections are supposed to be transparent, and 2020 was the furthest thing from it. Just remember
How much is YOUR life worth? How about the lives of your mother and family? They don’t ask for this. Mine is priceless…Rudy deserves to be ruined financially by this and should be in a jail cell.
@@armonjohnson It's absolutely disgusting that Rudy and Trump are getting a pass on things that would put any other citizen in a prison cell for years.
Nope, absolutely deserved for trying to destroy the lives of two innocent people, over and over again, for your own personal gain. HE ADMITTED IT WAS ALL A LIE to avoid prison, which is how we got here today.
I believe this violates Giuliani's 8th amendment rights against excessive fines. In this case, the so called damages were caused by their furtive activities. The judgement is an example of lawfare.
many people are victims of false claims and defamation, but they never get $$$ 148 million, punitive rewards, even so their losses are very damaging and destructive. Like their family destruction, loss of job, threats to life and victims of crime. Spreading rumors and gossip in churches goes on, should they be sued in a court of law??
@@DebraBright-pt8yi @ And how DO YOU KNOW he lied? I'll say, have a PUBLIC TELEVISED TRIAL with all the witnesses and evidence presented to the country so that we know the truth!
Is Michael Cohen still a lawyer? Is Rudy Giuliani about to lose his property? Who were they working for and on whose behalf did they take the actions they did?
Well, looks like Giuliani, will have to give it up, as he insured it and, ased it as a listed asset for over $1000.00. Giuliani, is going to PRISON soon, and will likely die there, due to his age. He can't take it with him anyway.
Unconstitutional. The fine is way too much. How much would they make working at their skill level? So, the fine shouldn't be no more than 100k. Appeal coming.
Clearly, you are promoting TRUMP/MAGA ideology.Giuliani, is a CRIMINAL, been a CRIMINAL, will always be a CRIMINAL!!! It's time for your scuzzy political agenda to disappear!!! Trump will not win! And, the election is/will be secured, and TRUMP will be in PRISON, shortly. REALITY CHECK!!!
i have to wonder, how much brain damage does it take for someone to believe that ppl can file appeals for a civil judgement at the time of asset forfeiture? lol my guess? a Lot lol
Really, how did they come up with that number? A doctor can unalive a family member due to their own negligence and the family won't see a small piece of what these women are getting for "defamation". Nobody is going to remember anything about these women in a few years, so how did they decide all of that money was a "fair amount"?
What amount would be fair to you if people were calling your every day threatening your life for doing more than being a public servant? What is your life worth?
@@emilerose1424 Maybe cost of relocating and whatever they make per year multiplied by 50? Are you going to answer my question or just answer questions with dumb questions which is flat out rude and not debate-like?
When you are defaming a person you should always consider the consequences. Let trump help him. These two lady lives with threats for almost four years and you don’t think they should be paid? They should have gotten much more. Point blank and period
This ruling was great and I agree with Nial's rationale. A much smaller payment would allow someone with power, influence, and wealth to spread lies without much consequence
Imagine being on Trump and Rudy's side and not being able to see your on the wrong side of history. These are 80 year old men who act like toddlers after a loss.
The Irish gentleman reports on how the mother's mother had people trying to break into her house to citizen arrest her. Unlawfully. Which is basically assault. Robbie's Direct next Message is "If I get $150 million and I get apartments and I get cars I get watches. I invite you to defame me." Basically saying he'd sell his own mother for money, apartments, cars and watches because " The rewards are almost worth it" Go Robbie!
His buddy trump could well afford to help him pay Ruby and Shay, after all rudy did it all at trump’s behest and yet he wants to be close to him, why didn’t he agree to give up the condo in Miami instead of the apt. in NY? I guess there’s no fool like an old fool?
Rudy, should've considered the potential consequences, if he really cared about his grandfather's memory. but, of course, his avarice, ego, and, misconception about his own importance, got in the way! Bye-RUDY!!!
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We looked down on Venezuela for rewarding a man who tried to overthrow the gov't by electing him to highest office. Now 70M Americans want to do the same. MAGA = Make America Venezuela
They keep trying to politically persecute opponents and have constantly talked about altering first amendment rights. Blue can f*** right off with their “protect our democracy” nonsense.
He lied on two women saying they were cheating for the democrats. Similar to what Alex jones did. Could you imagine getting death threats for doing nothing wrong and being hated by your fellow citizens.
Your a bot and you clearly didn’t watch the segment. Rudy spreads lies that those two were part of some conspiracy to steal the election. That a mother and daughter sharing tictacs, was a usb drive that they’d use to change votes. He kept doing so even after being told repeatedly that his claims were false. These women had to move several times because crazed lunatics were harassing them constantly, even showing up at the grandmas home, trying to force their way in for a citizens arrest. I know republicans don’t care about all the harm and pain the election conspiracies caused to normal people, but think about having your life ruined for years, because trump and his sycophants couldn’t help but push election fraud claims. I know y’all won’t care,but at least the justice system is getting those lady’s some type of justice
@@jakes658people like that don’t actually care about the harm Rudy did to those people. They probably still believe the ballots under the tsble and USB conspiracies. If you believe in the conspiracies, then of course you wouldn’t care about the people harmed by it actually being a lie.