Right?! I'm an empathetic person and anybody can be an idiot when they're young... but those phone calls show that she's a special kind of idiot. TBF, those were clipped excerpts from the prosecution of the case... I would like to hear the actual audio, but I don't think it's going to change much.
Wow those phone calls are seriously enlightening as to her real character. She truly doesn’t see any accountability for herself? No “Buck Stops Here” moment? And she truly thinks it’s acceptable to approach her victims family to speak on her behalf?! I am astonished. Then all those tears others mentioned.. they were all shed for herself. Holy crap.
Yes, they were certainly an eye-opener. TBF, these are only clips of her conversations that the prosecutor is using for his benefit. I wouldn't mind hearing the whole thing... but I don't suppose it's going to change much.
Ian, a degree in Computer Engineering doesn't mean you're going to make enough to eat, especially if you're working in the games industry. A lot of "triple A publishers" are known for screwing over and underpaying their employees.
@@embee7434 Eh, that's not as big. It's more the area you go into. You can make a decent living working with companies where software isn't the priority product, especially if you're working with some government entity. My brother has decent income working for a local fire department as a systems engineer. But companies where software is the primary product, especially when that software is video games (Looking at you arfholes EA, Acti-Blizz, Ubisoft, Microsoft, etc.) the work environment is so bad and the pay is so low, the industry is unionizing.
@jacklinde7568 I've worked in software. 😊 I wasn't intending to add an 'or' to your statement, rather an 'and'. Pile your examples/information on with truly mountainous school debt walking out of schools these days, and you have people with 'good degrees' that cannot afford food.
Wow... a dozen letters building an image. A dozen sentences utterly undoes them. As a firearm owner, who has spent a lot of time introducing anti-firearm people to firearms to win over hearts and minds, I was utterly appalled at the brazen smuggling of a firearm in to a gun-free zone just to brag about it.
As someone from a hunting family, I was taught gun safety, and respect for the destructive power of guns. Hearing how utterly irresponsible she was, and how knowingly careless, I was horrified. 18 months doesn't seem like enough. She and Baldwin are both responsible for a tragic loss of life, and it seems neither of them care.
Only thing Hannah has proven about herself so far is she lacks accountability, empathy, intelligence and is willing to spin, taint and alter facts if it helps her get through anything and everything while she keeps doing stupid things a grown adult with a bit of brains would not do. I hope she gets a full sentencing, given her overall lack of respect for everything, everyone and especially the person who died on set that day. Let her cook in jail for 18 months. She won't change, but she'll be out of the streets - and bars, and movie sets - for a while.
She still takes no responsibility for anything...."everyone else lied". Her own interviews were the most damning testimony in the trial. Still has no recognition of what she did wrong.
Right. SMH. You can see from the pictures of her that she's a poser and a bit of a snot... but being a sympathetic person I gave her a little Grace until I heard the gist of those jailhouse calls. IMO she is where she belongs.
It's not just that she doesn't seem to grok why anyone would think she was guilty; it's that apparently she doesn't even grok that the witness that truly sunk her case was herself.
Right? I don't even get these people. It's crazy how she's setting her daughter up to fail. The mother acting like that in court and making threats over the phone that's being recorded?! Then asking the judge to release her into whose custody... the Mother?! Unreal.
There's a mother (spectacle in court at sentencing as i understood it then) and a stepmother who called herself a bonus mom or whatever. The longer I study people informally, the more I think is nature and genetics and exposure from environment ... nature, and nurture is secondary.
I hope you get the recordings, too. Hannah is even more criminally-minded than I thought. I don't think this will be the last we hear of Hannah Gutierrez.
So do I. For one thing it's the prosecution who's pulling these quotes and the conversation might, and probably will, sound differently than what is being presented... That said, I really don't think that Hannah is going to sound much better in the actual recordings. I was willing to give her a certain measure of Grace for being young and stupid, but that totally gone now... and OMG her mother!
So can we counter with the fact that the woman that died was the last one who deserved to be in the cemetery, and that she was providing care for her children.... ?
You're right, she is. Even though Alec Ballwin is the one who pointed the gun at a woman he was arguing with and pulled the trigger, she's certainly not doing herself any favors.
There is responsible doubt that she never put real bullets in that gun. Alec Baldwin could have loaded that gun and killed her intentionally. She was doing a story exposing Hillary Clinton at that time. The truth will come out this year everything is getting exposed this year.
She should put her "big girl pants on" and accept her sentencing or take a deal. She should take some damn responsibility Alec should also get punished. He pulled the trigger and is lying about it.
What I am getting from this is she is very good at "performative" empathy. Basically she is good at *showing* care and empathy to people she thinks matter or that might be useful or impactful to her (ie. family, bosses and good uni/friend connections). Whether she actually feels that care and and empathy is another matter.
Hannah blames everyone but herself. She is just guilty as Alec Baldwin. The mom talking trash isn't a good look. They all have forgotten that their was a death.
@@MissteryDiva or not checking the cartridges every time she put “dummies” into the gun. Negligence and now demonstrated in the jail calls hubris and no remorse.sad
The judge has had to tell Hannah and her attorney twice now that someone died and she can’t get out of jail . This is why prosecutors charged her in the first place , she takes 0 responsibility for her actions. She misfired on Nicolas cage set , she handed a 11 year old actress a unsafe gun . She handed her intoxicated boyfriend the keys to her motorcycle who crashed and died . She also took a gun into a bar without a license or permit . She didn’t even have a license to carry . She needs to be held responsible period 18 months is nothing . Rest In Peace Halyna Hutchins 🙏🙏
@@amandamacabreIneffective assistance of council is an absolute joke in the US. Your council can be drunk or asleep in the courtroom while you're on trial and it's not ineffective. It's clown shoes stuff.
@@roflchopter11 it KILLS me. I don't really think a new trial would do anything to help Hannah anyway, but the fact that Bowles is this off the mark on everything is torture
"Your Honor, Hanna has strong character and is a good friend. She has constantly shared her 'baking powder' with me whenever she was holding and we were together partying."
.... I had similar thoughts. Yours are said more entertainingly. Ian was surprised a guy studying computer science would not have food money. My thought was perhaps she had food money had to do with being "enterprising". I saw it up close in my University time in Colorado, circa 1980.
Do people forget that by not doing her job a woman lost her life and another person injured!? She should do the time and afterwards move on with her life period!!!
I think Hannah going to really shocked when she finds out her calls are going to be used against her. And her friends are going to be really shocked when they hear what she's really like,.
I don't know if they have to tell her, but Carmella the paralegal was there (for at least some of them) and she SHOULD have told Hannah and her mother to shut it. Instead, she acknowledged the calls were 'probably' being recorded, then proceeded to participate in the smack talking! I don't like Hannah, but she has the worst legal team ever.
@@sapphail2410the jailhouse plays a recording while you’re waiting on the line. It repeatedly says your calls are monitored and recorded It tells the person the jailed is calling at least once
I don't know what's worse: Hannah drinking while out on bond or that she violated her bond by drinking Crown Royal. I mean, if you're going to violate your bond by drinking, at least drink something good.
@@JJMarie3509 LMAO, I think her friends were pretty clear about who they are... " she's so generous, she never failed to go out and support local bands by showing up at their gigs" 😂
@@carrollsanders9376 Ummm... Hannah checked the gun to make sure there's no live bullets in it, it was her job. There were live bullets in it... one person died and another was injured when it was fired. There isn't much to prove besides that.
@@windywednesday4166 I know that did you know you can put 5 grains of powder, 150 grains of Shot, and a 200 grain Bullet in a 45 long colt? The long colt is a black powder round, plenty of room for a Foriegn object to make a rattling noise. The state says Hannah did check the round or gun, yet the state didn't know anything about the actual gun.
Thanks for going through the documents ! I hope you can get the recordings. The evening stream would be good for Hannah’s sentencing. Otherwise it would get lost in all the live-streams of the Daybell trial.
I think it’s equal parts Ian’s personality and the level of research he does on a case he’s very invested in. He spoke to many armorers to understand the situation, purchased the same model gun, asked if any local viewers who had never shot a gun would be willing to meet him and be in a video so he could show how easy it is to distinguish blanks from dummies, and so much more.
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor sarcasm, you’ve never watched, or your brain mysteriously fails to retain the start of every recorded video (that part where Ian says ”Hello and welcome to Runkle Of The Bailey. My name is Ian Runkle, I’m a Canadian criminal defense and firearms lawyer.”)?
Oh me oh my. I watched the whole trial and thought there was still a smidgen of "railroading" Hannah. Those jailhouse calls are eye-opening. 18 months is too short by a factor of 20.
@BillyWitchDoctorDotCom in New Mexico it's 18 months. She got the maximum. The judge would've given her 100 years if the law allowed......judge was Piiiiiissssed.
Yes, it was a bit of an eye-opener for me. I don't have time for hours long trials with narratives I need a down and dirty recap. It would be nice to hear the actual phone calls if Runkle can get them though. ❤
Now you know why Kari was so angry with him from before the beginning of the trial. He tried to make her look like she was responsible for not redacting the documents HE submitted into the evidence! 😾
I think that any good will garnered from her character witnesses is completely obliterated by her jail calls. I foresee at least that 13 months... and wouldn't be shocked if the judge gave her the max based on her comments.
Wow, that's one heck of a defence lawyer when he doesn't seem to do his responsibility to the folks writing for his client. Then again, it's easy to look at someone's job and say "that's easy", when I'm not in that profession.
Nonsense. She is responsible for the death of someone & only 18 months to me is BS. But the law is the law unfortunately. She deserved more Imo. She was cavalier & entitled. She didn't take her job seriously, she just thought because of her step daddy's profession she knew it all. Obviously, she was on drugs & didn't think her job was anything other than ordinary. And WHO brought the live ammo on set? Gee I bet we can all guess & be right. I don't think Hannah thinks it's her fault. Thats a problem.
@@Murderbits That’s what’s always confused me. It’s like having a few live grenades while filming a war movie. Why would you risk an accident by bringing them on set at all?
picture this headline "Young armorer boycott Alec Baldwin's rust, quits set days prior to fatal accident over safety concerns" she'd be a superstar. Instead it's clear she's incompetent at her job and has pointed a shotgun at her own head, honestly they'd of been almost as well off without an armorer then having her there
But for Hannah who brought live ammo on set then not checking bullets, Halayna would be alive today! In fact there's pix of live bullets on set several different days! Hannah is the guilty 1! If it were up to me she'd get Life for the Life she took!
Ian, of course she could have a modeling career... on the ONLY site for FANS of people into weird stuff. But if she's thinking she had a modeling career in New York or Paris before, she was delusional before. (She ain't what they're looking for in models to begin with.)
The max for that charge in that state is 18 months. Which she received. She will never work in the industry again. Sadly this will also effect her parents company as well, they own a Armorers company. There is no doubt she is entitled, but there is civil action coming.
I can just see Hannah and her Mom making an extensive list of people Hannah has "partied" with to find character witnesses. Also, I love how Ian laughed when the prosecution did the math on drinking with her boyfriend. That's the happiest I've ever seen him!
This nagging thought got in my head and now I'm kinda worried for Bowles. What kind of liability is he putting himself in? He's complained to the Judge on multiple occasions that Hannah's information getting out (yes it's his fault) led to her getting harassed and threatened, and now he's doxed her closest friends. There's gotta be some aspect of law that he's good at, even if it's traffic court, and I'm kinda worried that instead of ruining his career he's on the verge of deleting it.
oh, my my my - I shouldn't be surprised, Bowles probably thinks this a "gotcha, Court!" moment that will showcase his ability. Unfortunately for Hannah, Bowles does showcase his usual lackluster work.
Ughhh this girl. Bowles hasn't been the world's greatest defense attorney but every time Hannah opens her mouth she manages to make herself look even WORSE. I assume Carmella is Cleopatra? Why wasn't she telling everyone involved in the jailhouse calls to watch what they say, especially since she knows damn well they're being recorded? I know she's a paralegal and not a lawyer, but carrying on the way she did is wildly unprofessional and hurts the client's case! If I were her boss, she wouldn't have a job for long.
Whenever anyone makes the "it's so difficult standing up to powerful producers and ornery famous actors when you're a wee young lady" appeal I want to grab them by the ears and telepathically beam into their brain: "IT WAS THE ENTIRE POINT OF HER DAMN JOB THO"...
These letters paint a much different picture than the Hannah we saw and heard from directly. Above all she takes no responsibility for her part in the incident.
Wow, it's like the defense lawyers weren't at the trial and know nothing about what happened. i wouldn't be using her numerous jobs as an armorer to display her good character, or letters that laud her professionalism in that work. Nobody should want her in that role, and her predilection for doing it might compel the court to jail her for as long as possible, to prevent her from doing it more. The good references that say how professional she is, well, that's not credible at all and any attached accolades should be thrown out with that one from that particular reference.
I think maximum prison sentence, lifetime ban of firearms and a criminal record is what both HG and AB deserve. Those transcripts of the recordings really show the true Hannah. 😡
I don’t think much of such letters. I’m old enough to remember in middle school an article of the newspaper we were told we couldn’t use for our daily news show and tell. It told the trial of Audie Murphy. On the surface, Audie and friend had been arrested for beating up and firing a gun at a man who had a dispute with Audie’s friend’s girlfriend. However, the gossip column clarified that the girlfriend was actually Audie’s girlfriend(Audie was very much married), something that was not allowed into the trial, as well as all the stories of Audie’s drunkenness, infidelity, and brawls. There also might have been a dog owned by the victim, who was mysteriously found shot. Audie was acquitted unanimously when the defense brought letters of his heroism during WWII and rested his case.
