S&W Shield Plus vs Sig P365 

Went to the store yesterday the S&W followed me out of the store! I petted it all night!

This is a no nonsense review. All info, no lag...much appreciated. Instant sub.

Im a glock and sig fan boy, picked the the plus on a great deal of a sale and military discount..this thing destroyed the hellcat, the sig and the g43 and g48...i have lots of guns with loads of upgrades and money into them and this plus ➕ came out of the box crushing just about every glock and sig i have....i will rate it up their with my legions...what a surprise, s&w killed it

after watching too many videos from reviewers who use SO MANY WORDS to say nothing, I find your style refreshing. Just the facts, ma'am, like I like it

I rly wish everyone would review guns like you bro. No Bs small talk. Packed with info in a short video. Literally best gun review

Best in depth of review of the shield I've seen yet. Thanks for showing the internals and using an actual trigger gauge.

I would love to see Smith just sell the new lower for $200 or less since the upper from the original shield are the same and interchangeable.

I own them all. Huge P365 fan but still purchased the Shield Plus as both guns have their own personalities and both are very good at what they do. Grip angle and rapid draw-point and shoot are perfect for both. My gut says the Sig is a very slight bit better build construction but only in the compound recoil spring. Honestly, both are premium and can bet your life on so let your hands and grip tell you what feels best. The P365 is smaller but the Shield Plus feels really good in my large hands. Getting all 13 rounds in the Shield + magazine is extremely difficult at first and new shooters will believe it can’t be done. Load them all up and let the magazines break in. I highly recommend shooting the Shield + with 12 +1 for awhile until the 13 round mags loosen up.

Now shield is more relevant than ever now. With the proven reliability of the shield over the issues the P365 has had in the past, I’ll take the shield +. Matter fact, I already have it lol.

Picked up my Plus today.. Gotta say, I'm gonna like this little beastie.

Love my P365. I can tell a difference between the Shield and the P365 to the benefit of the Shield. At this time, both are close in price with the Shield being a bit less expensive. Before I purchased the P365, I shot basically all of the subcompacts. The P365 felt the best, most accurate, and the sights are phenomenal. I think the Shield is a good CCW but I give the edge to the Sig P365. My P365 was born on 5/21 so I have had no issues with it at all. I have seen tests of 3 year old P365s before improvements and I think the issues were more related to the individual shooter's grip. I changed my grip to hold. I don't ride the slide but have great points of contact so no problems with last round not holding open. As far as the irregular strokes on the P365, I can show you 300 rounds of brass with no slide marks. All rounds are exact and distinct dots in the primer with no marring on the primer. Previously, my daily CCW was a Shield but the P365 just doesn't imprint as much as the Shield I carried prior. The only criticism I have of the P365 is it takes a while to loosen the spring on the 12 or 15 round mag. I am still using a speed loader although I expect the mag spring will get loosened up as I load it more often. I like speed loaders anyway for most handguns.

Both are good choices. I bought a 365 and ended up getting an xl grip module to use with it. Now it's perfect.

The Shield Plus trigger is amazing.

I have the Shield9 early version with that dump truck trigger. I'll take it all day long over the 365. Both are good guns, but I find the 365 toy-like in my hands - which are smallish. I might get the Plus at some point, but really don't need another gun. Also, having been shooting for 40 years, I have come to the conclusion that everything new is just a variation on a theme that already exists. With that comes the thought that these compact plastic wonders are just dancing around eachother, trying to market to a niche - some niche - any niche. When I think about it, my defense needs are unpredictable, but probabilities are that it will come down to mere feet or just a few yards. So, why care so much about sights anyway. I don't. The most rudmentary sights are plenty fine if you practice. I wore a Colt 1908 for years, and a Model 60 as well. neither has good sights, but with a bit of practice at ranges likely to be encountered will have you hitting a pie plate somewhere in the middle at 7 yards with both eyes open and as fast as you can operate the trigger. Just give me a basic gun. The Shield fits that niche.

Love my P365

I like both. But I’ll stick with the 365 because it’s smaller and I already own it.

I loved my p365 but after around 8000 rounds it started to jam up. I tried everything to fix it! After everything was done I traded it for the M&P shield plus yesterday! If you don't trust the gun don't carry that gun! Heading to the range in the morning for the first shots through the Plus!!!👍

Don’t be cheap! Dust off your wallet and pull out a second dollar bill and show both guns side by side on dollar bills. I realize this would double your working capital for the video but I think it would really improve the production quality. Seriously! Excellent review.

this is the best gun video i have seen on youtube. everything i want to know, everything i need to know, no flashy bs

The S&W seems OK, but I'll be keeping my P365.

When you get down to this size compact guns I don’t think 1/4 inch makes much difference.

Now this is the way to present. Without all the music and shooting prowess on display. Well done, sir. I will be looking into them as you advise. Thanks.

Bought a Sig P365 a year ago. $499 night sights and 3 mags. No contest

I was hoping you would compare both with the flush magazine.otherwise awesome and expert comparison!

Feeding the algorithm!

The dollar bill reference was eye opening.

A big part of price difference is that the Sig comes with night sights ! Haven't shot the new S&W but for EDC and concealability ,can't beat the Sig w/12rd. mags,IMO.

A more even comparison would have been using the 365 xl. Appreciate the side by side though.

I like your review style, as others have indicated, straight to the point. No fluff, gets the job done, just like m&p’s

Really like my smith 2.0 compact, I'm going to pick this up as well

Great review. After watching it several times I have come to the conclusion that I want both!

Good review. It helped me decide to go with the Sig P365.

Would like to see a head to head comparison of the hellcat, p365, and the max9

P365 for me all day - fits in my front pocket and super reliable. If I changed to the Shield I get into the carry OWB. P365 all day

I just ordered a Shield plus now we just need CZ to release something comparable.

Outstanding comparison. Have watched several videos comparing these two pistols and this is the most thorough by far. Most folks forget about us lefties and nice to know that both mag releases can be switched. Leaning toward the S&W but plan to test both. Well done. Thanks!

Definitely the shield plus. I own several glocks, m&p's (a shield +), and cz pistols. My boss let me try out his p365.. honestly it's a pretty nice pistol but is too small for my hands and I'm not a fan of the trigger overall. It's really made for smaller hands. I bought my shield + new for 350 with a 50 dollar rebate.

If the goal is the absolute smallest carry gun then choose the Sig. However the 2.4 ounce difference in weight between the two is negligible, ang pretty much indiscernible to the human body. If comfort, grip purchase, trigger pull, and controllability is the object choose the Shield Plus. I have both and now prefer the Shield Plus for my stated reasons. I have carried the Shield for several days now and forget it is there. Both are good choices so it depends on what is comfortable for you.

Just checked...S&W Shield Plus pistols are selling for $425-500 on Gunbroker (actual selling price) Shield 2.0s have dropped in price and are currently selling under $300. Just a few weeks ago, you couldn't touch a Shield 2.0 under $400. S&W is going to sell a shitton of these pistols and this is going to be a great time to snatch up the 8+1 Shield for bargain prices. The original Shield was one of the most popular pistols for a reason

Great video with very detailed information on the comparison of both pistols ! I own both a m&p shield and the sig p-365. I have switched to the p365 as my carry due to magazine capacity ( three 12 rd mags ) but my shield I have six 8 rd mags. I don't think you could go wrong with either, BUT ..... for new owners please shoot a couple of boxes of your " carry " ammo through your new pistol to make sure if feeds and functions with that ammo.

I'd like to see a comparison between the shield+ and the 2.0 sub-compact or m&p compact.

Very cool, i want the shield plus, i carried a shield for a few years off and on be nice to have 6 more rounds same size , awesome!

I own both and for the p365 fans mine has numerous light primer strikes and does jam. Can't argue with how easy it is to conceal but I can't trust it. The shield has never given me a problem so I have to go with the m&p. I carry the shield and my Glocks. Just my own experience.

Any idea when Shield Plus magazines will be available for sale? It's been almost 5 months since the pistol's release. I want to have extras for range use and two reloads.

I got a 365.....and I add the 365 XL frame to make it 12+1......and I love it

So P365 is still king? Not surprised. New shield looks alright tho.

I traded my S&W M2.0 today for a Shield Plus! Couldn’t be happier!!👍🏻

Yeah the dollar bill test is not good. Compare them directly against each other with both the flush baseplate 10 round and the extended 12/13 round magazines. Height and width being the most important. Also compare weights with the 10 and 12/13 round mags in each

I like the size of the Shield better than the P365 which is just a bit small for my large hands to get a good hold of. I can shoot a Shield pretty well too. It's still small enough to easily and comfortably conceal.

Nitron is a garbage finish. I owned 2 Sigs and both exhibited significant wear on the slide and barrel from normal fire. Armornite is as good if not better than Tennifer/Nitriding. Minimal wear on my Shield Plus. I honestly think P365 owners are trying to justify their purchase. For me, it was one of the most hyped guns ever, with the worst actual shootability.

Get a Hogue grip for the 365 and you won't believe how comfortable it is. Feels reminiscent of a mini VP9

Sig has the XL version that would be more so apples to apples

I like the idea of laying them on the dollar bill, why not use two dollars and do a side by side? Good video!

Jury is still out for me. I’ve had a SIG P365 and P365XL that were flawless. However, my S&W Shield Plus broke the firing pin spring and the firing pin assembly became stuck in my slide. Had only fired 153 rounds through it after buying it NIB and now it’s a paperweight going back to Smith & Wesson for warranty work and they’re telling me 6-8 weeks!

Nobody gets to own a handgun in the UK but this is *still* interesting to me. We can but dream...

Excellent review. Good info. I own both, had an original shield and loved it. Have moved on to higher capacity. The shield plus I shoot a little better, but with pocket carry the sig with 10 rd carries easily. No bad choice. Have Houge grip on both, would not get rid of either. Also the new shield trigger is very nice.

I have to say that you gave a superb demonstration on these pistols. I am a new gun owner ( 6 months ) with no previous experience so this was very informative. I have a s&w ez and a kimber micro 9 ( which I don’t think I will keep it )… that being said I will be looking for the MNP shield plus. Thanks again

Excellent comparison. The S&W trigger looked better to me. Thank you.

365 is easier to carry marginally. Shield Plus is easier to shoot substantially.

Very good overview of this new S&W offering. Well done.

P365 makes sense. Rather EDC a G26 over the Shield Plus.

I've carried a 1st Gen Performance Center M&P9 Shield for about 6 years now I haven't really found any reason upgrade. The Shield Plus just changed that. May wait for the Performance Center, but you can't complain about this one. Great review and compare.

Wondering how the new Ruger Max 9 stands up to either one of these two. Another great video as always Chris...first time I've ever seen a dollar bill comparison... very cool idea.

Just grabbed the Shield + bundle with night sights, optics ready, extra mags, first aid kit, and backpack. The rebate makes it a crazy deal. It also fits my hand better than the 365.

To me, the Shield is a better all-around gun. It is noticeably more shootable.

Comes with the "standard Smith and Season cardboard box". I don't know why but I LOL'd for real.

The Shield Plus is exactly the same size as the Glock 43x.

Very happy with my P 365. Was a little concerned about a micro-9 and handling. Put Pesrson grip extensions in it and it is very accurate and controllable. To each their own.

Be interesting to see how the Sig 365 compares to the new Ruger Max-9. I have the MP 2.0 and liked the feel of the Ruger Max-9 when I handled it at my local shop.

Would u agree the Shield has a better trigger and is less snappy than the 365?🎃

Man seeing all these new high capacity microcompact pistols like the Shield Plua and Ruger Max-9 next to the Sig P365 really emphasizes how tiny Sig managed to get the P365. Still can't believe they hold the same capacity.

At the end of the day it’s your preference I compared a shield plus to a hellcat both excellent weapons but the shield plus just felt better in my hands I’ve shot the Shield plus very accurate

P365 XL is an incredible firearm.

Shield all day long.

Good video thanks. I have the gen two with the crimson trace it was less than $300 bucks so hard to pass up I’ll hold off on the new ones for a little while and see wear the prices settle.

Why not compare the P365XL to the Shield Plus?

11:16 the sharp corner of the 365 magwell leaves a red mark in my palm after a mag or 2 and is painful after an hour on the range. Teething issues aside, it was pretty disappointing to run into at this pricepoint. I haven't tried rounding it over as show in some videos. Shield .0 fit my hand like a glove after the g43 and numerous other larger carry pieces. Its not that they felt bad or anything, but I literally picked up the Shield the first time and said "wow, that feels nice".

Nice!! A new gun review. It’s like old school🙂

I have a P365 but after the it's so small wore off I found it smaller than I really wanted (grip has a small circumference). This will be perfect for the guy who finds the P365 and Hellcat a bit small. I went the G43X mos route personally. This will be a hit with the guys that still carry shields as you did. People don't carry shields because they are the best at anything. They carry them because they always work.

Fully understanding the capacity will be different I hope they come out with the Sheild Plus chamberd in .40 and .45 then if they came out with a ..357sig conversion barrel for the .40 well I'd be in pew pew heaven.

Kind of silly to talk about *IF* pricing. If Sig drops their price by 200 then it will be cheaper. The only thing relevant is the price each are TODAY. One can get the P365 TacPac for $599 that comes with 3 x 12 round magazines and a holster. Great value for what one gets.

At first I wasn’t willing to change my first gen shield either but you may have just convinced me

Wish the 365 came with the same trigger as the xl. Still prefer the shield because of how much easier it is to draw the pistol from concealment. The thin grip of the sig is hard for me to grab onto. It’s closer to a micro than a compact and the shield feels closer to a compact than a micro.

What are their trigger reach length? Thanks..

Why get a shield? When I have a 365 with a 12+1 and a 14+1 with magguts and is accurate as heck. I practice out to 40 yards with mine. Lol

Chris, an excellent side-by-side comparison I have an original 1.0 that's all we can have in Cali thanks stay safe.👍👍👍

Magguts adds two rounds the P365 magazine, saving me from buyingvlatest greatest, because a Magguts once again makes P365 is the latest greatest.

I like the longer grip of the Shield Plus compared to the P365. The Shield Plus has a tiny bit wider grip, and slide length, and it’s only 2.4 oz. heavier than the P365. The ammo capacity between these 2 pistols is negligible. I think what it really comes down to is your individual comfort holding and firing either weapon. I have strong hands and forearms, so I’ve never experienced the “snappy recoil” that so many shooters complain about in micro-subcompacts like the P365, Hellcat, Glock 43, MAX-9, or Shield Plus.

I searched for and purchased the P365 Tac Pac. 3 x 12 rd mags and ambidextrous safety standard at the same price as the standard 2 x 10 rd version. Absolutely love the P365 ! The only additional accessory I've put on is a Hogue grip sleeve to add a bit of width for my long fingers. I also have the Hellcat OSP and would recommend either before the shield, nothing against S&W, Love my 686+, but in this concealment catagory they are severely outclassed.

I am glad to see a gun store owner chooses a Shield when he has such a wide field of quality guns to choose from. I have Gen 1 Shield that has been heavily modified. I also have a Gen 2 Performance Center Shield with an optic and 4.5 inch barrel. It is unmodified except for a Hogue grip. With the Shield Plus I would definitely upgrade the sights. However, I could still use the holster from my Gen 1 Shield. I believe enough in this gun that it is one of EDC’s. I had my son buy a Gen 1 when the Gen 2 came out. S&W makes a quality gun at a reasonable cost. I have guns that shoot better, but I ave a lot more money in them.

Hello Chris thank you very much for the upload. Very good comparison video. May i ask how many rounds have you shot through you M&P shield daily carry ? And what dontou prefer to shoot 115gr or 124 gr with the same gun? Thankyou

I carry a 2.0 4” compact. I want the pc 4” shield plus maybe even with the red dot

I have owned the P365 for a while and just picked up the shield plus performance. I like the way the shield fits in my hand but haven't shot it yet. I am going to keep both regardless.

Slide finish on smith is way better

Update for the p365 as far as chamber indicator. There is a sliver of metal that pretudes out if there is no round in the chamber. If it is flush then you know there is a round. You can see it next to where the bullets eject. You can physically feel this too

bought the shield plus PC with the crimson trace gun is Amazing. Still love my MP 2.0 9mm compact.

Anyone get annoyed at his fast talk?

Shield plus if I had to choose. P365, Hellcat are too small for my hands.

Love my Shields-- just bought the Shield Plus but I'm keeping my Shield 2.0 too.

Went and looked at the Smith, the P365, and the Hellcat yesterday. I want to point out that in the opening pic, the Smith looks substantially larger than the P365, but in reality it isn't that much of a difference overall. I will say that the trigger on both of these was really nice, and the reset was also outstanding. The trigger and the reset on the Hellcat were also really good too, but the other two were slightly better. The grip of the Sig is SMALL. If you have larger hands like me, you'll swallow up the Sig. The Smiths sights were just Ok, and the grip texture was a bit too aggressive (IMHO) for appendix carry. The Sigs sights and grips were really nice, but the Hellcats were outstanding (especially those sights). So, in retrospect, the grip size of the Hellcat was right between the the other two, the sights are better, it has one more round capacity (flush fit mag), the trigger was pretty damn good, and it was cheaper than the other two... I walked into the gun store convinced I would buy the Smith, and walked out with the Hellcat.