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S2 E39 3D Modelling a Railway Carriage Part 1 

Bexhill West
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Hello everyone,
In this video, (the first of a two part part series) I run through how I approach creating a 3d CAD model of a piece of rolling stock for 3D printing.
I begin with a sketch, and recreate the 2d geometry which I will later use as profiles from which I generate 3D parts.
I am asked frequently how to go about this process, and there are many alternative approaches. Hopefully, showing how I approach the task will give some context and guidance to those who are struggling to get their heads around the task and don't know where to start.
As always, if you've any questions leave them in the comments and I'll do my best to answer then as best I can.
Thanks for watching,
James

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@peterjhillier7659
@peterjhillier7659 2 месяца назад
Thank you James, as a 77year old Railway Modeller I am amazed at your Skills, thank you for sharing.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Thanks Peter. I'm a Jack of all trades - but master of none! :) All the best, James
@mattflaneur407
@mattflaneur407 2 месяца назад
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to make a film showing your process for 2D to 3D CAD. Really very interesting, and helpful for others. I'm used to working in CAD for architectural drawing and modelling, but haven't as yet transferred this skill into the field of railway modelling. Hoping to make some District Railway 4-wheel coaches using Vectorworks, so this is very informative. Look forward to following your build on this. All best, Matt. 🙂PS One bit of constructive feedback, I personally find the background music makes hearing your clear narration harder to discern.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest 2 месяца назад
Thank you Matt, I'm pleased you found the video interesting. Thanks also for the constructive feedback, I thought the background music might soften my droning-on. I'll think again next time. :) Thanks for watching, James
@paulsharpe3794
@paulsharpe3794 2 месяца назад
Hi there thanks for the video I want to get into 3d design and print for my oo gauge and have enjoyed the video and look forward to seeing part 2 . I've also enjoyed your other billd videos
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Thank you Paul, part 2 is now up - there may even be a part 3 on the way, just as soon as I clear-up a couple of other bits and bobs. Thanks for watching, James
@lassunsschaun6859
@lassunsschaun6859 2 месяца назад
About the curves of the roof and lower side wall parts; not unlikely the drawing and the components, as well as the jigs for it have been done by different people at different times, one interpreted the work of the other 😉(and not seldom some parts got replaced after some years, rebuild roughly from what was there or just used the newer version of it) What's relevant -> stay inside the loading gauge of the specific line (and era) you build your carriage / wagon for 😶‍🌫you know, that one tunnel, north of Bexhill West, you mentioned before. Till next video (or if I spot someting else in this video)
@philipgreenwood166
@philipgreenwood166 2 месяца назад
Hi James, another great video, I too use this concept of old drawings which can to be converted into or downloaded as PDF files and imported into a cad system. The only place I would say I differ from you is I prefer to initially scale up to full size first, and then draw in decimal imperial units. I fully agree this is only a matter of preference. The reason I do this is in fact the same reason you go onto explain, in that you ultimately have to start to best guess some in fact a lot of of the measurements. which is as you say not exactly best drawing practice. However by scaling up first it helps me at least make much more sense of the variation in the copied drawing. So for example if a panel wide was say 0.235 mm it does not make much sense, but a panel width of 0.75 inches makes much more sense I.e. would it be practical to have used a 3/4 wide piece of timber for that frame. Yes it would, therefore you can with some confidence move forward. ultimately once the 2d drawing is finished I then scale back by the 76.2 value taking me back to the metric 4 mm unit value and import into 3D cad. I believe that is something worth thinking about. Cheers Phil,
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Hi Phil, I totally agree with your logic here. However, if I'm drawing something for a specific model scale then it makes sense to me to base my drawing in units to which work well with the materials I intend to use. For example, I'm currently drawing up the artwork for a locomotive chassis which will be etched. The starting point being the thickness of the material I intend to use. That being the case it works for me to use that unit as the basis for the drawing, which is especially helpful when dealing with things like slots and tabs. In essence the same though process as you describe, just with inverted logic. Simply scaling from full-size can produce odd-sizes. Not a problem with a 3d print, but with fabricated parts, one often has to select from stock material sizes, with inevitable rounding-up or down errors, which can lead to 'stack-up' errors in a fabrication. If I'm drawing something as a digital model only then I always use the parent units, often full-size imperial. Thanks for watching, James
@1BCamden
@1BCamden 2 месяца назад
Wow, the most detailed concept I’ve ever seen. Thanks so much, so well described. Best regards, get some rest.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Glad you liked it, and I could certainly do with a rest. :)
@MikeGarwood2498
@MikeGarwood2498 2 месяца назад
Hadn't thought about importing 2d into 3d...shall have ago. Informative and concise as ever. Thanks James
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Cheers Mike, give it a go. I think the 2d part is the hardest. Once a 2d profile has been created, the subsequent extrusion, cut or revolve is straightforward. Good luck, James
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway 2 месяца назад
Fascinating watching how you create your projects James
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Cheers! I'm loving your new logo by the way, and your recent posts. Keep it up! :)
@keithhanbury-chatten9877
@keithhanbury-chatten9877 2 месяца назад
Another great video James. Nice to see other software being used to compare with Designspark that I am using. Looking forwards to the next episode.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Thanks Keith. I like to use various bits of software to keep my hand-in, but essentially they are all the same. I'm looking forward to starting on a Thumper soon. The next episode is now up. I hope you find it useful. All the best, James
@malcolmsmith9232
@malcolmsmith9232 Месяц назад
Hi James. Just come across this video whilst looking at the Templot track videos. Firstly, well done! It’s not easy to make a “do this, press that, use this button’ video entertaining and informative. You have made a damn good job of it. I have an Elegoo Saturn S resin printer already, but looking at both this video and the Templot track making videos, it seems it would be good to have a laser cutter too. Bearing in mind I work in 7mm scale (so materials might be heavier, certainly larger), do you have any suggestions for a budget (bargain basement if my wife reads this) laser cutter? Or perhaps some “minimum” specs I need to look for. Eg diode laser, 10W etc? Plywood sleepers are my preferred option and I like what you’ve done with panelled coach sides. It’s something I’d love to take further. BTW, what glue do you use to join sides/ends/floors?
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
Thank you Malcolm, you're tight it's not easy to produce a video like this, not is it an easy watch so thank you for your patience. As for laser cutters, if it's your first I'd now recommend a diode laser over Co2 for easy of use, although a Co2 laser is more versatile. I would try to go for something like 20w as a minimum as a good compromise between speed and cutting power. I'm certain that any 5w laser would do most of what you need, but slightly more power makes for a more pleasant quality of life in use. I'm presently reviewing a 60W diode laser which is a beast, it's absolutely amazing, but realistically quite unnecessary for model making work. Indeed, it may even be a little dangerous. :) As for glues, I tend to use CA glue for just about everything as I'm impatient, otherwise its quality PVA for most other jobs and school-type PVA to glue plywood sleepers down. Why school-type glue? Well, if something goes down in the wrong place it is easy to spray with water, cover with cling-film overnight and lift/reposition with very little damage. :) Thanks for watching, James
@timothyp8947
@timothyp8947 Месяц назад
Are there any pros/cons to digitising your copies of the drawings into what you might call 'model coordinates' with the CAD drawing defined in terms 4mm scale target measurements vs creating the initial CAD drawing in 'real world coordinates' and scaling the 2D drawing or 3D CAD model later? Or would you say it’s just a matter of personal taste? For example, another comment is from someone who prefers to do their initial CAD drawing using the 'real world' dimensions on the drawing. Also wondered CAD packages offer features to deskew and correct aspect ratios of imported pics used for tracing; perhaps this isn’t a common use case for the majority of CAD work.
@BexhillWest
@BexhillWest Месяц назад
I think it's a matter of personal preference really. When I'm making a model I like to use the model scale and dimensions as it's handy to be able to 'visualise' the key dimensions dimensions that I'm working with. For example, I know the axles will be made from 2mm diameter bar, so the design of the bearings and details inside the axleboxes will be based around this 2mm dimension. The same applies for things like coupling hooks and handrail wire, etc. for which I will be using parts and materials with specific dimensions. That being the case, it makes sense (to me at least) to scale the entire model and use model dimensions throughout. If this were a generic model, which I anticipated reproducing in a variety of scales, then I would probably draw full-size and scale at the point of printing. It is also possible to create a table of key dimensions, and set the drawing to 'read' these when creating a part. This is a useful technique when planning to produce an item in different scales. For example, we could create a data entry for 'axle diameter', with separate columns for 2mm,3mm,4mm & 7mm scales etc. with a different diameter for each. We can then reference the drawing to the relevant piece of data in the table depending upon what we require. Imagine something like a locomotive wheel, if we tabulate all the key dimensions and parameters; diameter, no of spokes, crank pin position, etc. then we can write a formula to produce, (for example), a 5'6" diameter wheel with an S7 tyre profile with 16 spokes, crank in-line to suit a 24" piston stroke. In practice, it's a little more involved than that - but that's the basic process of parametric modelling. Usually though, I just sit at my computer and doodle to pass time - hence I've a hard-drive full of quite interesting stuff - most of which I've forgotten I've drawn. :) Thanks for watching, James
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