@@codytyner8088 that was a good one too lol. My first video with Ricky that I ever saw was the one where they're talking about not showing up for free and that just let me down a rabbit hole of this amazing series 😎
Bringing the old one back unless lost and gone not forever so they can be looked at to agree they are done.for or if at home.or.lost. you get a.new one.but.a.rental till original ones are gotten or found
The safety man made ONE mistake. Should've capped off that statement with: "No I don't sign your paycheck, however I do talk with the people who do and it wouldn't be difficult for me to convince them that replacing you would be cheaper than OSHA fines and/or lawsuits."
it's funny because many companies are wising up and buying off OSHA employees or simply getting lawyers to fight the fines because the fines are more expensive than the legal fees (usually), and still fire the employee on top of that if they were a higher-paid one for a fresh one. Has happened to me and a lot of people at an RV manufacturer I worked for. Got an injury and want to see a doctor? Write an incident report explaining how it was YOUR (the employee's) fault you got injured even though you followed EVERY safety regulation on the site so we don't have to send you to a doctor. Can't go to OSHA for that cause the documentation will say different. Honestly just quit before something bad happens and find a better company because you don't want to be made to feel like you were responsible especially if it's REALLY fucking bad.
@@Rikkity a lot of that paperwork is purely to scare people, it doesn't actually have any legal sway. In my experience at the moment (in australia) most companies are recognising that its very quickly becoming cheaper to just up their prices to clients, and do things properly every time, avoid fines and incidents because those cause lost time, which loses contracts faster than increased prices (if you still do a good job, anyway).
And then Ricky realized that he could sue the company and get a massive payout if he got injured, so he did. 1 year later Ricky was wearing his eypatch that he did in fact look good in and tool room tommy was nowhere to be seen.
I never understood why the tool room is responsible for PPE. Always thought that safety man should be directly responsible for ordering and dispersing that stuff.
Any jobs I've been on it was safety man who has PPE. Current job they looked at me weird when I asked where the PPE was. I ended up at the supply house charging a box of glasses, earplugs, gloves, etc. When they asked I simply told them to fire me, if they weren't winning to provide the basics they weren't worth working for.
Thing is is the safety guy can write you up and if you get wrote up a certain number of times they can legally fire you. At least here in Minnesota anyhow
I've ran into Tommy before . Pulled the samething . So I ( On the clock ) went and bought a case of safety glasses . Then I gave the receipt to the bookkeeper . He had to deal with the person directly involved with his paycheck . She deducted it from his paycheck. For wasting company money .
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket hahahahahahahaAAA so is refusing to allow employees to fill out a accident report then firing them for getting their neck broke on the job . But it is profitable and money is more important than the Law . Just look at Washington DC .
I dealt with a Toolroom Tommy on a job but it was a Karen. I just hired in and took a weld test, got it all done and cut straps and passed. I go to the tool room and ask for some gloves and ear plugs. First words out of her mouth when I asked for some gloves, where are your old ones you're not getting any until you give me your old ones. I hadn't even had the chance to explain that I had just hired in. She didn't even want give me any until the Superintendent just happened to walk up and he says this man just hired in get him his gloves so he can get to work. He's not doing me any good down here at the toolroom. Wasn't long ol girl got fired, like literally by the end of the shift she was fired for causing people such grief.
The correct response from the safety man when Tommy asked if he had anything to do with his paycheck would be along the lines "Yes, in the sense that I can help make your paychecks stop." Love the skits and always look forward to the next one!
Exactly, i was more in line with , "I see, I will be back in half an hour ," go to the break room write the man up about PPE then have ricky sign including anyone else missing safety gear that day go back in and have the man sign off on his refusal to employ safety gear at work when asked by his Peers. " Like I said earlier easy peasy.
It would be a great ending and give the safety man a badass moment, he deserves one every once in a while. I kind of see him as one of the guys that knows a lot of the rules of the company. Will love to see a part 2 of this.
The correct response, but misses both the punchline and the level of actual care safety man has for his crew when he gives up his own pair to get Ricky what he needs to work safely.
You know what else bankrupts companies? OSHA fines for not providing basic ppe, especially if it contributed to injuries. The skit is funny as always, but kidding aside, there are two types of companies, the ones where Tommy wins this argument, and the ones where the safety guy does. You want to work for that one. Yeah PPE can be a nuisance sometimes but I'd rather work for a company pushing it, than one withholding it. I can honestly say where I work, Tommy wouldn't have gotten two or three sentences into his argument before safety man left, and department head (who does determine if Tommy gets paid) showed up to bid him farewell. Edit: Ricky has driven safety man to a therapist 🤣!
The company I worked for would give you X amount of pairs for free, like 2-3, but charge you for any more than that if you didn't bring the old ones back
PPE is actually a good thing. Imagine my dumbass catching a cheek full of blue-hot swarf not 6 hours after completing my yearly H&S training and nearly losing an eye. Dont be a dumbass people, you can have a goggled eye or a googly eye. Choose the former
So true!! I’ve worked for both types and run my own company now. My truck alway has PPE for everyone on site with lots of extras ( no boots ) I’ve got probably 8 spare hard hats that have never been touched, it’s cheaper for me to provide it. The law here requires you to pay the employee for the remainder of the day if they injure themselves at work. My lowest paid helper makes $20 per hour, one pair of eye pro cost $2, PPE is my cheapest overhead by far. Safety is still 3rd but everyone has to go home basically how they showed up.
Man, worked with a toolroom Tommy a few times. His job in my new gig has been replaced by a giant Toolbox with a swipe card on it. Its improved life infinitely
@@preston3698 damn things are always breaking or the Fastenal man not taking the time to check the welding machine to make sure it's stocked because It's rarely emptied. took a month for my supervisor to get ahold of them to restock it with gloves and other PPE after we emptied it out when me and the other welder trained the rest of the department to weld.
I've never been more on safety nerd's side then I am now. Most of the stuff Ricky does is more personal irresponsibility or streamlining his job. This can get Tommy fired and the company sued if someone who isn't Ricky loses his glasses
Even if Ricky got hurt, the conversation would go like this: DoL / workmans comp: "Where you wearing all your PPE at the time of the incident?" Ricky: "No" WC: "Why not?" Ricky: "cause Toolroom Tommy wouldnt give them to me."
My safety man would hear the tool guy refuse to give safety glasses and would teleport to the office and back with the boss. He wouldnt have even talked to Tommy.
In every steel factory I've worked in glasses were in vending machinea and we just grabbed them as we needed them (no charge) they didn't care if you grabbed a new pair every week
@@lilithlux8127 I mean, makes sense. You don't want to argue, that's not your job, nor is it your job to train them, nor do you hold chain of command over them. The boss will come down and tell him what needs to happen as his superior.
@@deusvult6920 same at amazon. visibility vest, gloves, box cutters even off brand advil, if for some reason you used more than the week "allowance" any manager or supervisor would grab you a pair. Hated working there but that was atleast one good thing they did.
Damn and here I was hoping we'd get to see Safety Man finally grow a pair. The way that I had hoped that conversation would have gone is, "Next? No let me tell you what's gonna happen next. I'm gonna talk to Ricky and get this incident on file, and then I'm gonna talk to all the other guys on the site and get every single similar incident I can. Then I'm going to compile all that together and send it to OSHA and the Department of Labor. And then when they are done running an Eiffel Tower on our budget for this job, you can explain to the owners how it was less expensive to pay the thousands in legal fees and tens of thousands in fines than it was to give Ricky some fucking safety glasses."
FINALLY the Safety Prick vs. Tool Room Tommy has come, and it did not disappoint. Twice the usual length of your videos too, that's how I knew this was gon' be gud!
When Roscoe vs. Tool Room Tommy comes around I see it going something like this: Roscoe walks in with Western shoot out music playing; we hear the clinking of spurs as he does. Tommy stand up taller, straightens his shoulders and then they stare at each other. After about 10 seconds Roscoe says, "we doing this again, whippersnapper?" Tommy replies, "everytime, old man" Silent staring for 20 seconds Then they both look around and Ricky and The Safety Man hightail it out of the Tool Room. When it is just them two left in the room. They laugh and both pull out a flask and spend the rest of the day shit talking everybody else. Boss man comes in eventually and at that moment *only* sees a proper exchange of goods and says to both, "see I don't know why it is so darn hard for the rest of them to just do the job right, y'all take an extra 5 to relax or something. In fact. Lunch is on me today. Tommy go ahead and lock up the Tool Room and hop in the truck." ...2 hours later... Ricky standing at the locked Tool Room door going, "where the fuck does he go everyday? I need a new blade for my cutter."
"There's no more safety-conscious rule than to wear these- your safety mcglarsses. That way, when your arm gets chopped off, at least the safety guy can see you have safety glasses on." -Uncle Bumblefuck
There is a 50-50 chance I'd just hit someone if they said I couldn't get a pair of safety glasses when I need them. The other 50 I'd just sit around in the break room not working and make my supervisor deal with it. It would all depend on my mood and how much I care about getting that particular project done.
If they don't give you the safety glasses they could be fired. If you slap the s*** out of them you could be fired. I say leave the bomb in their home court and let them think they have that advantage
Threatening your supervisor with a potential OSHA voliation seams alot easier. Granted I'm little more than a office bound engineer. But whenever I mention OSHA to a supervisor I always get my way.
Ricky: "I've never seen anybody beat toolroom Tommy." NOT TRUE! Ricky was standing there when Roscoe came in and told Tommy "gimme some damned gloves!" and Tommy gave them to him because Tommy figured Roscoe would beat his ass if he didn't. That's why Roscoe RULES on the jobsite!
See that's EXACTLY what I was thinking! Toolroom Tommy is atrociously smug and makes up his own damn rules. However, when your behavior gets you punched in the face so damn hard by the old timer on the job site that it turns your frontal lobe inside out, it inspires change and to be a better person! Or at least a better fighter.
@@ZeraSeraphim That's why I love Roscoe's line in the video about how much it costs to be an a-hole. "Have as much attitude as you have the ability to fight."
I mean, if Safety Man made a complaint to the higher ups about Tommy not giving out legally required PPE, and points out how much getting sued out the ass by an injured employee would cost them, I'm pretty sure he'd get written up at least, and fired for sure if he continues not doing it. So yeah, in a way safety Man DOES have something to do with ol' Big T's paycheck. Also, good on Safety Man trading in his own glasses for Ricky. He may get treated like the villain a lot of the time, but he really does care.
He's trying to save the company money by not giving out safety equipment but if somebody gets hurt all the money he saved and more will be spent because of that injury
@@irishwristwatch2487 tool room Tommy is just doing what he's told to do by the company. If the company gets sued because of these rules than the higher ups have the authority to change them
Honestly I think they're all hilarious, we all need humor like this in our lives everyday just to keep us pushing forward. If this guy's ever in Florida I'd sure like to go hang out with him and have a beer too I could give him some material to work with that would blow his mind. Peace out.
My Favorite "Material". Deconstruction in a Refinery. Needed a Ladder to remove some Pipes. Wasnt allowed a Ladder by the Safety Guy. 2 Weeks later he infomrs me "I have good News, you are now allowed to work on the Ladder IF you have BOTH HANDS on the Ladder." You see the Problem there? That was shortly followed by me getting told that i need a Harness to work on the 2 steps ladder. There is no pack of Rope on those Harnesses short enough for that fall and without Rope Pack it wasnt allowed to be used.
@@hotrod9873 industrial deconstruction. Basically anything that's worth some we get and after us the wrecking ball. And ofc asbestos removal and such "fun". From refinery to Bayer complex to companies that use chemicals to get the bit of gold out of your grandpa's fake tooth. Ohh and once a F1 motor testing complex...... Almost as good as the Pfizer one. There I stood ankle deep in viagra pills. All over the plant floor.
I have heard it said many times that you can’t put a price on Safety. Fortunately I retired from a company that believes this and we never had problems with Tool Room Tommy when it came to our PPE. Loved the Safety Man calling him Big T, that was a great line. 😎👍🏻
I mean, a lot of times you actually can put price tags on safety, the reasons are enumerated and fees listed and if not directly listed you can usually pull up court cases where rulings cast. The numbers are usually... very big.
Tool room Tommy is literally the store clerks at the plant I work at.... They denied me for gloves that I needed(required PPE in my plant) and I had to go get my shift leader to go down to the store and scream at the clerk to give me the damn gloves or hes not getting paid that day or for the next 30 days. Then I had another incident in which my shift leader and group leader also had to make the clerk give me 3 brooms and 3 dust pans. "All you're going to do is lose them, plus how many people on your team are actually going to use them" his exact words. My bosses were not happy at all because we literally had an audit coming up and we're required to have cleaning utensils at every station. What I don't understand is that the store people don't even work for management or corporate, they're union just like us on the line. Why would they care about managing company inventory or making sure company money gets saved wherever possible?
@@OtterTreySSArmy "why would they care about managing company inventory or making sure company money gets saved wherever possible" some jackass in management told him "hey dude, help me get these costs cut and I'll find a nice cushy supervisor position for you to have" and Tommy the tool room man aint never had someone open a door of opportunity for him like that so he thinks this is his big chance. little does he know that management makes this kind of fucking offer to everyone eventually if they stay employed long enough. and they never deliver. they just find some mistake you made and fire you over it before your first day at the 'cushy supervisor job"
@@fangorn23 idk what the case is but like in our plant, production management and material management(who aren't on the same team badically, they're more or less independent entities) absolutely hate eachother. Production's opinion is "whatever expense you have so long as it's justified, well pay it, just get it done. If you need it to do your job, we'll get it for you" and material is the complete opposite. Production management is always screaming at material management about us in production not getting the things we need to actually run the line. Whether it be gloves, replacement tools, or even just the parts that we assemble on our product. I have a gun on my team that will occasionally break its bits and the animosity between material and production rears its ugly head. It's so bad to the point where our shift supervisor(so this is someone fairly high on the corporate ladder) had to go back to the store personally and pull some management override nonsense to simply get us those replacement bits because they won't give them to us. Our shift supervisor literally has to keep a zip lock bag full of 10mm bits in his cabinet under lock and key because of how annoying the store clerks are about that kind of thing.
I am putting in a formal request to have a part 2 of this. Tool room Tommy and the safety man going at it are hilarious. We need to see one where upper management gets involved somehow
I've had this argument with the tool room person before and i record it too so i have proof. basically I tell them what's more expensive, $2 for safety glasses ir a multi-million-dollar lawsuit when I injure my eye and your job because you won't give me safety glasses. I get what i want or i dont work on the clock.
Shit that’s retirement right there, you got a recording talk to the boss and if they send you back without glasses retirement is right around the corner
I used to work for this painting company out of Cincinnati. They were really good with PPE. Many of my coworkers took advantage. That aggravated me. The company shut down now. I can honestly say they were really good people to work for.
I had a situation with a tool room guy like this he didn't want to give me a pair of gloves because I didn't have the old pair to give him. The thing was I had only been at that job for 3 days and when I started I had my own gloves; I was not about to give him gloves that I bought and paid for in exchange for gloves that they were legally supposed to provide for me. When I told him he could have my gloves for $15.75 and a new pair he threatened to get me fired. When my boss who is also the person that got me the job to begin with got to the tool room he thoroughly chewed that toolman's ass up one side and down the other and by the end of the week I was running the tool room.
As a Safety Manager and certified member of the BCSP, I love these videos. I share them far and wide and am even considering playing them at my next mandatory safety seminar. Keep them coming brother, they brighten my days when I need a break from writing up the report on the latest safety incident involving a forklift...
Our tool room guy got fired for giving out non rated hard hats because they got raises based on the amount they save the company when they make the purchase orders at the end of the year if they find cheaper alternatives through different accredited companies.. this dude got his manager to approve the hard hats by faking the certs on the paperwork they give for approval.. some guy got his head split open when a rock fell off a bucket and boopsd hin on his nugget.. they looked at the helmet for workers comp reasons because the osha is there just for that shit but the dude sued the company and ended up winning from the shit.. was a whole big thing, had a mid day meeting with all personnel.. was horrible, all those fuckers in one doublewide mid day.. could have at least done it first thing one day..
@@if7723 there's a lot of negative incentives in life. It's up to everyone individually choose to pursue them. I'd say in this example this would be malevolence.
I cannot express how much I love, enjoy, and appreciate this channel and all the content! Thanks for all the laughs and advice bro and keep em coming! Much love from the bottom of the boot N.O. #fan4life
Somehow I knew the safety man was going to have to give up his own glasses. It was the only way it was going to end. He really needs to speak to the higher ups about that. Also, he could have pointed out that it costs the company more if someone can not work, and even more if they get injured. If someone gets injured it may be the quickest way to close down the business too.
Well, well, well, Safety Man , there's a robotic vending machine accessed via employee PIN that makes your position obsolete, and holds irresponsible workers accountable for losing gear. They put one in at the foundry but everyone immediately forgot the PIN, and had to get an office worker with a key anyway.
😆 We had that too, everyone has the boss's kids pin numbers, also when people get fired or retire their pin # still works! We usually walk up to the machine and say, "Cody's Treat !! Who wants what??!!" (Cody is a bosses son)
Hahaha! Everyone last time was like "Go get the Safety Guy!", "The Safety Guy will make him....". THAT'S A NEGATIVE CAPTAIN! You can't mess with someone who prefers to be locked in a cage!!!!!
You know, id imagine a high profile lawsuit because of someone not being able to get PPE and getting hurt on site would cost a hell of a lot more than to replace some safety glasses and vests that go missing.
I'd have just reached over and taken what I needed. Done it plenty of times. Picked the locks to the tool storage, too. It's a wonder I haven't been fired, honestly. I think my boss low key finds my shenanigans entertaining. Only thing I can think of.
Damned I know I didn’t work the phone lines for long, but these videos are always on point. The alternative scenario is when you put in the order for replacement PPE and the company just straight doesn’t send it. They will pull every excuse not to give you anything, but they will leave the order open and just say they can’t work you in. I was supposed to have prescription safety glasses but the company wouldn’t schedule for me to see their optometrist to get the process started. Luckily I had just done my yearly check up and I handed my supervisor my signed prescription and he put in the order himself. Had to dip out about six months ago cause some jack wagon rear ended my van at a stop light and the company said I should have done something to prevent the accident despite not being at fault according to the law. And about a month ago one of my buddies called me to let me know my safety glasses had come in and they had sent about 20 pairs that no one can use cause they’re all set to my prescription. So it took them over a year to get my shit shipped in, and I don’t even work there anymore. Corporate is somethin’.
Tool room tommy has got to be my favorite I'm electrical engineer for remington firearms and been in industrial maintenance all my life and every tool man I have incountered is a tool room tommy keel it up brother and God bless
Now hear me out, the crew starts a grunge band... Boss man on guitar, Rosco on bass, Ricky on drums, Tommy lead singer and safety man off in the corner on like the tambourine and they are covering Black Betty by soil
I'm having the worst months of My intire Life! I tell ya what this makes my Day every Day. Thing couldn't be worse but this brightens those bad moments.
That is so so hilarious I have worked commercial and industrial work for the last 12 years and that is just like that Keep up the hilarious you're doing a great job
Funny thing was that Army supply was way less stressful to deal with than University supply. I actually got a pair of gloves issued despite not being able to turn the exact same model in (possibly because the supply guy made an exception because we were an Artillery unit and the gloves I had were clearly beat up. Edit: One guy at my old church had been a chaplain's assistant in Vietnam and he was given control over a storage unit with excess gear from a departing unit. If supply was unwilling to issue needed gear, that was a personal issue they needed to see the chaplain about.
