SAG AND SUSPENSION SETUP with Marc from freeridebeans 

Best entro sound ever for a motorcycle video!

Compression and rebound was well explained.

If the rider sag is proper and you have no static sag left you’re spring is too soft for you. And while I don’t want to say anything about Dave moss his experience I find him a very commercial bloke that doesn’t give away a lot in his free videos. For example Paul Thede from Racetech, he even wrote a book about all the components and info there is to know about suspension. There’s actually a lot more people than just him that are brilliant in suspension stuff. But just getting sag right is only the basics, in fact everyone should do this. Even better shops should do this when you buy a new bike. Sag off is geometry off and a bad steering bike, or at least worse than it could be. I’m kind of blessed I raced a lot of years motocross and had a few people around me teaching me a lot about this subject, it translates really well to road and race bikes. One thing I do miss on a lot of road bikes is a manual that states the rider and static sag values, as they differ a bit from bike to bike, as said it’s fine tuning the suspension to set it to the meant geometry. If you buy a motocross bike sag values are in your manual.

Put a cable tie on the chrome stansion so it'll let you know just how much fork travel you have for your weight and your type of riding, it'll let you know when & where the fork bottoms out & that way you'll be able to tell if the settings that you've dialled in from your owner manual are correct for your. Weight. I.e with your leathers on, which will give you a better rider sag reading.

Doing mine tomorrow it’s like a bucking bronco!!! Cheers

You ain't never going to get static sag with you bike on a paddock stand because your rear wheel is off the floor, it's permanently bottomed out no matter how many turns of pre-load, you have to do it with the bike under it's own weight, meaning upright and not on a kickstand just get someone to hold the bike for you while you adjust and take measurements, your watching the right vids tho because Dave moss is mustard mate, hope that helps.

I hope you re checked rider sag after getting static sag set. You probably have more rider sag now than 35mm. Most bikes come under sprung for riders over 185 pounds (add 20 pounds for riding gear, helmet etc.) Also sag should be measured not in a stand, as it will be different when not. Also shoot for the same rider sag and damping front and rear, so the bike goes down evenly and returns at both ends the same. To get proper sag often you need to change the springs front and rear if on the heavy side to get the balance between comfort and handling.

Static sag is not relevant. Unless your bike goes around town without you on it. You want to have the suspension allow enough up and down travel when you are on it. That is how a suspension works. All gas pressure shocks will try and be at full extension. The weight compressing the shock is the relevant part of getting travel adjusted right. Once you have shock travel sorted then adjust the shock valving to your taste.

I just bought a 2017 Daytona 675, so am about to check the settings over. As far as just the static sag (no rider on it) why wouldn't the manufacturer have that set correctly, as no weight of rider makes this different?

My rear spring is wound all the way to the top is that a bit much it’s how it came to me wen got bike

Gday mate whats your wait in kgs

Hi mate, still tinkering with my Daytona. Now I believe I'm correct in saying the rider sag of 30mm includes the extra 10mm of static sag as well? I'm sure I saw Dave Moss do that. Also, do you have exact rider sag at front of 30mm? How did you find the comfort settings from manual? I believe Dave Moss tends to ignore these (or at least just use as a starting guide) settings, & adjusts things accordingly. I get what he means, how can settings in a manual, be comfort for you & your weight, & also me & my weight etc. Thanks

you can’t just say hopefully it’ll be nicer. You have to ride it and give us some results.

Should the front and rear static sag be the same?

I don't get this. You had the same amount of static sag before and after the adjustment. We clearly saw 10mm of movement before and maybe 12-13mm after the adjustment. Practically the same.

What year is your bike? How heavy are you? I have a 2015 and weigh 190-195lbs. I need to adjust my suspension it rides pretty harsh over bumps.

whats a click, it looks like a quarter turn to me. nice vid mate.