SAND PADDLE TIRE COMPARISON SANDCRAFT Skats VS SYSTEM 3 OFFROAD - CAN AM MAVERICK X3 EP - 127 

I Couldn't say it any better, GREAT POST. ima pin it so more viewers can seee it👍👍👍

Any update now that you've had them for awhile?

So after a year of riding the system 3s, does CJ still have them or did he can them. I have the system 3s and haven't had any issues but I feel they don't grip enough when your going up a hill like Oldsmobile. I'm contemplating on buying some CST paddles. What your opinion on them after a year. Do you think there's a big difference or am I just throwing money away making the switch.

​@@stevenortiz0782 I bought a set of SS360s last week and within two runs up Sand Mountain in Little Sahara Rec Area, Utah I felt the same thing you mentioned - not enough grip. The sand at Little Sahara was a bit dark and heavy that day (still wet from some rain a couple days ago), and Sand Mountain in long steep hill - all great factors for a true test of tires performance. I did a few runs with my current Skat Traks, switched the tires, and then did two runs in the SS360s. With that back-to-back test, I noticed a significant reduction in grip with the SS360s. For example, as usual to be kind to my machine, I did not floor it with my skat traks, and I made it up Sand Mountain with a challenged by progressive feel, reaching the summit at 35mph, as read on the stock speedometer. With the SS360s I had to floor it within the first 100 yards of the climb, and I still wasn't getting up to the speed I was at the same point with my Skats. On the way up the long mountain with the SS360s, my machine did not have that progressive feel but that of a real struggle, reaching the top at 28mph. I'm sure I took some life off my belt with that run. One the second run with the SS360s, I bailed out 75% of the way up because we were barely making it up, and I knew definitively by then that I wanted to return the tires. We knew also that we wouldn't be able to to even get to the back side of Sand Mountain with the normal bowls, because with our Skats, we struggled to get up the steep rise and high turn in at the saddle to get to the back side. The SS360s would not have even gotten us to the back side to the bowls. So we returned to camp, unmounted the tires, and returned them to the seller, for a small "use" fee. The one variable that I could not control that day is tire/wheel size: my Skats are 30x13x14 (height, width, rim diameter) in the rear (true measurement of 27" on 7psi, mounted) while the SS360s were 32x12x15 in the rear (true measurement of 30" on 7psi, mounted). As I was returning the SS360s to the seller, he thought the reason I wasn't able to get the same speed and performance out of the SS360s was a the increased height, both the tire and the rim. He has a point. However, I have read several forums of X3 owners that went from 30" to 32" and they didn't report a decrease in performance. But I don't rely on theory. I like hard evidence. So my next plan is to borrow a friend's Skats (with the same Xtreme paddles in the rear and buffs in the front), but as 32" with a 15" rim. I'll take both sets out to the dunes and see how they perform on difficult terrain at Little Sahara, UT or at St Anthony, ID. To clarify, I love my Skats. I have never had an issue with their climbing ability. I'm just trying to get a couple more inches of ground clearance so I don't have to worry as much about bottoming out my front end coming down our steep dunes at speed or hitting a steep dune at speed. These SS360s just popped up on a search of mine and they were inexpensive ($1,800) compared to new Skats ($2,400). My ground clearance did increase with the SS360s from 13in to 16in, measured to the bottom of the skip plate at the driver door. So that was hard to give back that ground clearance going back to my old tires, but it was worth it. I'll just find some bigger skats soon :)

@@austinchase5882 thanks for that info I'm thinking of buying some paddles for the rear and keeping the ss3's for the front. Thanks for the info and have fun and safe riding!

Just some initial impressions.. we will update once we get more miles on them👍

🤟🤟🤟awesome to hear.. be safe. Happy new year

I think thats what hes doing for our next trip out there.. im definitely impressed with those tires for the price. A great buy honestly 🤟🍻

Great idea,👍 we will put some more miles on them aswell

@@GLifeUTV Please consider it, do you have any interest in doing more technical videos at all? Could be a good supplement to your content, maybe drive more Mfr. to consider review samples. I think a lot of people are aware of these SS360, and are wondering if they are a suitable alternative, and how they compare Directly to a standard paddle in all scenarios. We are in the Oregon Dunes with Lots of sticks and roots, and punctures like that are a REAL consideration, the weight penalty is not wanted, but as a compromise, these might be better all around than a set of STUs here. And especially a set of skats for reliability and price. Be nice if someone could make a similar tire and get the weight down with a kevlar construction, best of both worlds, puncture reliability and low rotational mass. Dig your channel, get your buddies to help with the content more, running multiple ride cameras on their rigs and more comfortable in front of the camera.

Thanks bud, i appreciate your feedback, and definitely would be nice for a manufacturer to make a stronger construction tire thats less prone to puncture, especially when tires arnet cheap.. also getting another gopro for more views.. thanks for ur feedback, we will keep pushing the content🤟

Heck yea bro🤟🙏😁

Get a rzr

@@marcop760 i love me a rzr too, im excited to see the new 72 in pro xp🤤

Yea they vulcanize the paddles on. Do u know where i can get a rear set..having a hard time find 32 11 paddles

We just ordered another sandcraft cuz this one was beyond repair.. ive heard of the blackbirds.. sign me up for more durable🤟

Yea, definitely felt like the system 3s float on the sand alot better .. overall very impressed with them. And anyone watching should consider them.

Hmmmmm . Thats nutts.. well good to know 👍 thanks for pointing that out

Im trying to find some tubes too

Well said i agree 100%.. i want to try the hp version as well

Could you specify what you mean by "too much power for the SS360"? Does that mean they would spin more and not grip up from a start like the Skat Trak?

@@austinchase5882 Exactly that, yes. Some spin is desirable but too much lack of traction as the car evens out over the power range is no good. The SS360HP may be a good answer for higher HP cars - I just haven't personally tried them to comment.

@@agc7582 I see. Do you run two wheel drive on the sand like I do?

@@austinchase5882 Most of the time, yes

I want to try the ss360 hp version.. so much bang for your buck🤜🤛

Seen alot of those out there.. they look like a hard mold tire too.. skats and sandcraft are nice, its just hard to justify the price when there are cheaper tire that appear to be more reliable as far as punctures

​@@GLifeUTV The CST worked great for me all weekend. I have no complaints!

Ur right..We stayed away from most..of the brush. I know the washes have alot more sand.. but we went off geico. And there were no brushes

Possibly a branch or piece of glass, never going to know. But its is not repairable. Its a slash and the slash is going with the threads. So it is tearing at the threads. I can stick my thumb thru it.. Ive patched tires at a shop for 10 years.. i still remember how. And wouldn't trust patching.. i contacted skat trak to possible vulcanize the tire patch on.. but even Ramon at Skat Trak did not suggest it due to the tear on the threads. I appreciate your feedback either way. And we had both sets of tires at 12psi. We didnt try at different pressures. But its definitely something to consider next visit. Thanks for your input 👌👍

We ran 4wd pretty much the whole time

Rear 12 wide tires front 10 wide tires No worries bro👍

Its a good set bro

👍🍻

@@GLifeUTV Looking to get a Can Am X3 max next spring, anything you would change or tell someone who is buying a new one?

@@ventureall-terrain2297 i would say before you purchase.. join one of the can am facebook groups . And do a quick search on common weak points. There are some. Especially if u want to ride really hard.. but ultimately its dam good machine🍻

@@GLifeUTV Ok, thanks for responding!

Glamis is great but definitely cost to get out there and play.. lots of prep work too🍻

Nice. Good to know👌

Nice. What kind of horsepower does your machine produce?

@@austinchase5882 My 2018 Polaris RZR XP 1000 turbo delivers 168 reliable HP (stock). Effortlessly goes up everything at Glamis. What sets my car apart from others is I have the Fox Podium Gold Racing Series shocks and springs all around....price almost $7,000.00 but dam....what a difference. It's not the amount of travel...it's the quality of it.

@@GLifeUTV Over a year later: Still running 7 lbs pressure cuz I notice my friends with less tend to pop the bead. Also put fronts on forward now....it really doesn't make that much difference in handling but my car slowly pulls past Can-Am's on the big dunes climb.

@@readmore3634 Happy to hear it. I'm picking up some new 32x15 SS360s this Saturday. My machine is a Can Am Max X3 XRS with 172 HP (stocks) so it should perform similarly with those tires as yours did. I chose the non-HP tread depth, and I hope that still gives me enough grip running on two wheel drive most of the time at the St Anthony dunes up here. I have been running 30x14 Skat Traks this summer and they've been great. I mostly just wanted more ground clearance since the true measurement on my Skats at 7psi is only 27". I'll get a very good feel on the difference when I run these new 32s on the same St Anthony route next week. I'll be sure to post a comment about it.

Thats alot of weight for the rzr turbo. Unless its a turbo s... Why 18in rims?

Rialto ca

@@GLifeUTV unfortunately it’s not a turbo s, someone was trying to get rid of them for a good price but I was skeptical about what it could do to engine. Thanks again for info brotha. Not to many people I would trust but I see ur videos and everything you do yourself and do a clean job. Do u ever work on other people’s utv’s? Like a side gig?

@@fredalvarez277 i do have 4 x3s at my house right now😅

On a talon id recommend 30 in. The ss360 are a good choice.

@@GLifeUTV thanks bro.😎🏜👌

No they are way wider on the back

That sounds like a interesting combination. Alot is gonna be personal preference. Gotta find what u feel comfortable with

Sorry i dont. But most of the local dealers carry them. Call a few shops

never tried, but many say they work fine

Interesting. 🤔

All depends on the tires. Some have luck with stock tires in the sand

Great deal

32in tire 15 in rims for both

@@GLifeUTV 32x15 for front and back?

@@stevenortiz0782 yes front and back 32x10r15 for front and 32x12r15 for rear

His car is alot faster then mine.. we would need two equal cars

@@GLifeUTV I have sold my Skats and will be getting some SS 360's. Jon Crowley jr has some video's of the 360's racing standard paddles. The 360's win every time. They stay on top.

@@kevingoodrich3050 wow. A lil surprised..thats dam good tho.. makes sense cuz they do seem to float on top.. good to know bro

I have the 360s on a stock 2-door Turbo S and raced a Can-Am with a Stage 5 Evo kit and he would take me on the launch and by the end of the Sand Drags he was barely in front of me.

Also with the 360s never once did I get stuck. I did winch out three Can-Ams Sunday alone. All had conventional sand paddles, was very soft sand the weekend of Halloween.

After seeing both in action. Me either

Any idea where i can order one online?

Any suggestions online where i can pick one up