Sanditon -- The Archery Contest 

Ooh yess...all you need to see to know AC is the better man, and a gentleman of integrity! 😊🤩😍

Wasn't that Elizabeth's line?

Yes, what is it about Colboune’s hair? I SO want to touch it. 😂

@@sarahnewman1269 I want to run my fingers through his hair 🥵🥵 ok ladies; after this discussion, I need another cold shower 🚿😁

Yesss he is beautiful!!! And his hairrr is soo pretty I want to touch it too lolol!! 😍😊

Ikr even even his hair is pretty

👏👏 Yes! This whole episode had me hooked from the beginning! Such good acting and pacing from all 🥰

Omg that's what I said! Yes to all this!! It was soo cute and a display of love/ protectiveness for her well-being 💖 and his VOICE ugh so captivating when deeper/rougher !

I watched this several times looking more closely at various characters, their eyes, noticing facial expressions, etc. Smirky Lennox who is arrogant and presumptuous, enjoys irritating and humiliating any one he does not like. Loves to prove he is the dandy in every circumstance. Charlotte seems caught completely out of her comfort zone, but doesn’t know if she should refuse. I don’t quite know why she didn’t refuse. Anyone?? Alexander is annoyed that Lennox refuses to maintain a comfortable distance. I’ve never seen him this fierce before. Good play Ben.

Ha ha , absolutely, Tom is absolutely the worst most un self aware character ever to set foot in Sanditon

🤣😂😅Funny yet soooo true!

Tom ignores Arthur’s suggestion to replace the elephant and simply swallows Lennox’s balloon; Arthur has Toms best interest at heart - Lennox only wants money and power. Lennox is whispering in Toms ear that Colbourne is possessive, short tempered and doesn’t play fair - sad Tom won’t listen to his own brother and, being seduced by the worst person in Sanditon I can’t for this evening

Boys to men

All the way! 🥰

I loved that too, when Lennox tried to help her with the bow 😂❤️ Charlotte is a wonderful Austen heroine.

I'm not sure how I feel about all these throwbacks I'm seeing - even throwback dialogue. Though I am really enjoying it much to my surprise and all my initial instincts about Sidney (the character and the actor) from the start and all along have proven correct so far. Disappointing to say the least.

Bravo! 👏👏 My feelings exactly!

@@susanfirth9883 thank you for your response

I’ve read this comment with Julie Andrews voice narrating.

Ha ha Kayleigh, trying to think what voice I think would be suitable reading this clip, Deborah Kerr perhaps. Mark you have a nice Austenesque turn of phrase.

@@elizabethkennedy9733 Thank you, a nice compliment. Jane Austen and Georgette Heyer have been my go to authors for light reading these many years.

Agree completely, though I feel much more certain that Colbourne is already the male lead. I think they’ve been showing a side of Lennox that is less than desirable for someone like Charlotte. Beyond how I think she is beginning to feel about Colbourne, she loves family above all else, and what you said about Lennox leaving can’t compare to what she’s already beginning to feel for those girls, and how they are feeling about her 🥰🥰

Colbourne is the male lead!

@@audreycumby1075 he is indeed.

Lennox has an angry demeanor most of the time. Notice how his mouth is downturned in a frown? He has a churlish, smirk too. He is a good example of a man who will squelch any joy out of Charlotte’s life....RUN AWAY!!!

I believe Charlotte's exit in E1 after Lennox's comments about a husband going across the ocean and never returning reminded her of Sidney going across the ocean and not returning. Although he was not her husband in reality; he was her beloved in heart. Allison's stupid response just compounded it. I experience the storyline emphasizing the similarity because she goes to the church upon her exit. Just my take on it. I also don't think she really liked Lennox that much. She was polite as required by the period; but facial expressions prior to the balcony scene indicated she didn't think highly of him. Again my experience. I hope at some point, Alexander told Charlotte what Lennox said at close of archery contest. For me Lennox is an arse! ☺

He does 🥰 I believe Charlotte will be his break. If not this season then next, and for the rest of their lives. He’s earned a great true love ❤️

@@susanfirth9883 @BlueGinger Yess he got picked on the whole time! I stay home a lot too bc ppl are so rude sometimes, wouldn't mind staying home with him!! ;) but AC did a good job of keeping his cool and not punching Lennox out! And his 'convo skills' are ok!! He doesn't need much work, I think he just wanted a reason to talk to Charlotte/her talk to him,? ;) and be "taught" by her bc you can tell he just caves and gives in to what she says usually and hope he says in s3 "I don't own you like you said, you own ME , I am yours and I'll do whatever you like and say bc I secretly agree with it and I take back when I said you're not here to teach me, you can teach me anything bc you're superior to me " 😉😊😍 much like Rochester to Jane

@@aprilrose6630 I like to consider how conversations might have gone differently if people were better communicators. What if after Mr. Colbourne said, "You are MY governess" and Charlotte responded with "You might pay my wages, but I am not yours to order about," Alex had responded with "The man is a seducer of young women, Miss Heywood. I know of one young lady who ended up dead after he discarded her." But then we wouldn't have all the following fights, half-apologies, and Mr. Colbourne's very romantic speech during their dance or the pivotal true-confessions and kisses afterwards. I just like to wonder what the expression would have been on her face with such a revelation.

@@lisatea5779 that would've been a shock for CH to hear that at the garden party! I bet he wanted to tell her but was so choked with anger at Lennox for what he just said, and that CH would even think about talking to Lennox like he's some honorable soldier, AC is prob yelling to himself, "Noo charlotte, don't you know what I know?! He's a villain! Stay away!" And he's so he'll bent on protecting her and mad that Lennox is even going near her that he can't get any words out, much like he can't say I love you yet! That he has such 'honorable ' intentions but came out as him yelling a frustrated command to protect her, it makes him look like what Lennox told her of him :(...but yes then we wouldn't have all those after apologies, sweet speech at their dance, him tryinggggg to show her how he feels etc !! So good she learned a BIT (would like to know more of his relationship to lennox) about Lennox in their so romantic, warm, intimate sincere talk about Lucy :)...you could really feel him reliving his story and his warm affection/love for CH while doing that from her responses to him, a d the fact that he was even telling her in 1st place 😊💜❤👌

@@aprilrose6630 I'm happy to hear from you. I have to tell you about an experience I had last Sunday (not yesterday.) I had earlier seen a rather long post from someone who presumed to explain Sanditon to those of us who were apparently too ignorant to understand. I found one statement she made objectionable when she said Mr. Colbourne had to dismiss Charlotte because he was afraid, she would "submit to him" because he was her employer. I responded that she had some interesting insights, but I believed that Charlotte was not the kind of girl to "submit" and Mr. Colbourne was too honorable to take advantage. In the era of "Me Too" submit has a certain connotation for me. Well, her response was to go off on me (once again very long and comes to me in an email single spaced block probably 8-10 inches long) and says she never said that (I cut and pasted it back to her) and that I must have let my imagination run away with me. Some of the other things she said in follow-up answers was that Mr. Colbourne never loved his wife or he would have gone to check on her sooner, Col. Lennox was not a liar, Mr. Colbourne did steal Lucy from Col. Lennox (I said there was no evidence of that), Mr. Colbourne only went to apologize to Charlotte because Augusta asked him to and not for himself (her evidence was that he was twisting his gold ring), Col. Lennox was saying Mr. Colbourne had never loved his wife when he made the comment "All's fair in love and war. Happily, I've known both and you've known neither" while I said he was implying that Mr. Colbourne's wife never loved him. Then I'd really had enough when she said Mr. Colbourne deserved everything Col. Lennox said to him at the military encampment after Charlotte and Leo left and that Col. Lennox was speaking the truth. I had earlier said we should agree to disagree, but she kept writing. I finally had to tell her that if she thought our poor, heartbroken Mr. Colbourne never loved his wife we would never have a meeting of the minds and I wouldn't be opening or responding to her posts again. I've enjoyed reading all the clever comments other Sanditon fans have made and never thought any comment was "wrong" just someone's opinion. I remember thinking. I wish April Rose would write. I know she'd agree with me and be sympathetic to my trolling trauma. Sorry, this will probably come in your email as a long-single-spaced block of type just like the crazy lady's. My apologies in advance.

I see jealousy but I think I see fear more than anything. Fear for Augusta and fear for Charlotte. I so hope the truth when it comes out is a whopper.

@@groundcontrol436385 in full agreement, I replied to Rusian saying as much. Colbourne tries to forbid Charlotte from seeing or speaking to Lennox. Charlotte of course tells him he is not in control of her, but I think Colbourne is doing it out of concern. He knows what Lennox is really like

@@elizabethkennedy9733 I saw it more of he doesn't want his friends being friendly with his rival/someone he has bad history with, because it feels like disloyalty. And Lennox especially, because he must have really rubbed him the wrong way to provoke such anger. I would feel the same.

@@vanityshop5155 like my enemies enemy is my friend sort of thing?

@@vanityshop5155 loving all the speculation

Yes! I hunted for this specific video to see if anybody noticed that. It made me think it was a very subtle suggestion that Xander is more physically strong than Lennox.

Sarah Newman.....Or someone put Colbourne at a disadvantage on purpose??

❤️ You’re very welcome!

To me she wasn't looking at Colbourne as if asking him what she should do but rather conveying to him that she did not want to do it but was boxed into a corner and couldn't see a way around it. She was being forced into it by Lenox while the whole crowd watched. It put her on such a hard place.

Oh my goodness, I don't know how you came to think that. That is so wild, it would have never ever crossed my mind. I just thought, "war" -- him being a Colonel, and "love" -- he is trying to push it in Colbourne's face that he loved Lucy first (and that maybe she felt pressured to marry Colbourne for practical reasons). I hope it's not the case that they are Lennox's daughters, living under Colbourne's roof, under the pretense that they are his kin. That would be so messy 😣😣😣 I wouldn't know where to place them. And then Colbourne and Lennox would have to be connected forever 😰

@@vanityshop5155 When I first watched the clip I didn't hear the first part the war and love phrase I only heard "but then again I had both and you had neither" so immediately I thought about Lucy and her twin sister and also before watching this clip I read someone's comment on some other video where someone said Agusta's facial features remind them of Lenox and also that Leo likes war and soldiers (even though she might not know that) because her father might of been a soldier (Lenox) so that's where this theory came out but then later I rewatched several times and I heard war and love and I thought man actually Iam glad that it wasn't what I thought it was because like you said it would've been such a mess and he would of had to include Lenox into the girls life but I still sense that somehow still their dark history involves both the women Lucy and her twin sister. We will see.

@@raven_in_disguise1649 Yes, we'll see. I am DYING with anticipation!!!!!!

I believe when Lennox stated “all is fair in love and war…. But then I’ve known both and you’ve known neither “ he was flaunting his military status (as a war hero) and also that he had the love of Lucy, which he believes Colbourne didn’t. Implying he’s superior to Colbourne. A real jerk. Underneath it all he’s really jealous because he sees there is something between Charlotte & Alexander building.

@@nvbluesky YES! That is how I interpreted that line.

I can’t wait!! 🥰🥰

Me too.🤗😁

Me neither, it's really hotting up

@@elizabethkennedy9733 It sure is!😁🔥🔥❤

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Also, Charlotte would have been wise to refuse to take up the bow against her employer and/or to interfere with the competition between the two men because no matter the outcome as we saw, Charlotte is placed in a bad position for her participation. Had she stunk, then Lennox would have made her look foolish, but instead she appeared to favor one man over another, which led to more unpleasantness which could negatively impact her livelihood. I am guilty of wishing I had said or acted differently after the fact when I am caught off guard and this scene with Charlotte being put on the spot is exactly the sort of thing that one agrees to impulsively and under pressure, but immediately regrets the decision and I found it entirely relatable. Poor Charlotte was in a no-win situation here.

@@susansparke3462 Yes! I really wish she refused in the first place, so that way Lenox wouldn't get the opportunity to mentally harass Colbourne, and Charlotte would let both man know that shes not an object that can be used for their own motives.

@@darinakuchinskaya1164 Me too, but how do you respond to someone like Lennox who says "I insist" after you have initially declined when there is an audience? He backed her into a corner. She might have been able to lie to Lennox and beg him not to make a spectacle out of her, but she caved to his pressuring. It's too bad that she didn't stick with her gut feeling. Or better yet, had she split her own arrow when shooting for Alexander!!! That would have shown the men who deserved the prize of Lady Denham's silver arrow!!!

That's what I was wishing too! That somehow she could make an even better shot. But I felt that when she made the shot for Lennox, she wanted to prove herself. When it was for Alexander, it mattered SO much that she got nervous and missed 🙄 It was far too much pressure to put on her.

@@susanfirth9883 I think that you're absolutely right Susan. It's one thing when we're doing something for ourselves, but it's entirely different when we are trying to impress someone we are in love with and I can't tell you how many times my nerves have gotten the better of me when the pressure was on and I couldn't concentrate because THEY were there and I proceeded to embarrass myself. Poor Charlotte.

🔥 🔥 🔥 One of the funniest memes I've seen is this photo of Alex with the arrow ready to fly and a photo of Ralph to the right of it 😂

@@susanfirth9883 Haha!!! Oh I wish I could see that!

He is so hot!! More than Sidney!! There I said it!😉😍👌

@@aprilrose6630 So much! One of the things I felt about Sidney was that he somehow didn’t quite feel period to me. It was like they looked for a beefcake and put him in an overcoat and top hat. He was fine but I remembered quite a lot while watching him that he was an actor. With Xander, I’m just totally sucked into the character. Ben is so immersed in his character that I don’t think of it as being Ben. It’s just Xander!

@@rachelsmith5479 yesss.. Sidney was hot but lacked somenof the charm,, gentle nature and manners of the classic Austen men!Colbourne is just so many types of handsome , (cute, hot, boyish, ruggedly handsome, sophisticated/refined/distinguished, also earthy/casual,/informal, esp. w/Char, almost carefree) that he's like a work of art! Plus the many sides to his character that make him wayy more handsome too! And yesss about how you forget you're watching Ben and its like he's just AC! Here's what I said to someone else who said he's so good at using his eyes/voice/gestures to BE AC! (Sry if this is kind of a duplicate comment, so many vids I forget who I said what to!is there a way to be tagged in the Vids you, Susan Firth, and @Rose Pourpre comment on, I keep missing all these other vids/fun comments!) ..."That's what I said! That he has so many voices/tones to show each and every emotion the character is feeling! Also same with his eyes, actions/gestures, body movements etc! I thought 'wow he must be a seriously trained actor, AND just be so naturally talented to encompass, embody BECOME a character and tell their story as if you ARE them, bc he IS Colbourne! It's like he is feeling/living exactly what the character is, and conveys it so naturally/compellingly he just becomes him...Such a high caliber actor and joins the "greats "!! ...such a high degree of talent 💖👌🤩

It’s only a few seconds long 🥰 but Colbourne and Charlotte are dancing together ❤️❤️

@@susanfirth9883 And there is him saying he never dances 🥰 can’t wait for next week ❤️

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I'll do it just so I can see these sooner 😂

Amazon Prime also has it available a week early

@@Blondygurl72 hi Alexandra, where in the world are you? I’m in the UK and can’t see it on Amazon prime but do have a VPN so can hopefully switch to another location to watch it. Thanks 😊

@@Skittles1988 Oh, how interesting. I'm in the U.S. I hope you find a way 😊

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Good eye!! I hadn't even thought of that. But my son is left handed and he plays golf right handed, so I'd need to hear from archery enthusiasts if this is a normal thing. I suspect it had to do more with camera angles than Xander being ambidextrous ❤️

@@susanfirth9883 A college friend was left handed, but she bowled on the bowling lane right handed.

I hope to upload scenes from Ep 5 tomorrow night. There was no trailer, only about 15 seconds at the end of the last episode ❤️

I do remember that scene, and I love that Charlotte is so proficient in cricket, archery, handling horses, and yes, even guns. And I think Charlotte can hold her own with words with Col. Lennox too! I'm hopeful that soon Alexander will be by her side as well. 🥰

@@susanfirth9883 The reason why both guys dont notice her independence and her own authority is because for one Lenox in general perhaps thinks he has figured her character out and expects her to be fragile (fragile meaning that she needs helper assistance of a man, like society thinks in general) like any other women and also he did at some point say that she reminds him of lucy, which I dont know who she (lucy) was as a person but for now I think she was in a way fragile cause she perhaps was easily charmed by Lenox, which is our theory. Either before or after being married to Colbourne. And plus little by little it's becoming obvious that Lenox has only interest in charlotte because of her beauty and he thinks that he can easily charm her like any other woman he perhaps charmed. In theory it wouldn't make sense for him to marry her because charlotte doesn't have fortune and it would be only pure love that would make him marry her but for now I see no sparks for love. And the way it was easy for him to use charlotte to make colbourne mad was very selfish of him. And plus Charlotte has shown us how she is not easily charmed by suspicious men like in season 1 Edward tried to chat her and she immediately stayed on her guard. So Lenox not knowing this thinks he has his way with her. Which he doesn't. Two, Colbourne if the theory is correct is still not healed from grief and guilt of Lucy, and this garden party was his very first outing since whatever happend with Lucy. So colbourne is vulnerable and plus the whole time he was in shock that Lenox was there and that Lenox was friendly acquainted with Charlotte. Which raffles up his trust towards Charlotte and at the same time makes him concerned for Charlotte if Lenox is what we think he is. Charlotte the person who Colbourne started to admire and a little open up to. Even though I dont really know what happened with Colbourne but I do give him credit for listening to Charlotte and being civil during the party for Augusta, which tells you that Augusta is important to him. And it let's you know about his character that he is willing to do sacrifices for the people he loves. So with all this pressure going inside Colbournes head of course he would of been sidetracked and blind to seeing more of Charlotte's independence and plus Lenox just went too far with his actions and comments. We do know that when Colbounre first met Charlotte he showed us how intrigued and interested he is at Charlotte's independence and mindset of what it means to be a women. When she boldly states her opinion about society and about what it means to be a women and leaves. And he in return gets on his horse and races after her and says she's hired. This REALLY tells you how open he is to her new ways of treating women because if our theory is correct he after all has experienced how fragile women can be and how pressured down by society they can be. But Charlotte the opposite shows how SHE can push down society. Which is a rare thing. Also Charlotte on the other hand is still wounded from losing Sidney and everyone ever since from episode 1 have been pressuring her to settle down even her own friends, the person that most annoyed me was her sister allison. Lady Denam wasn't a surprise by pressuring down Charlotte because she always like that but Allison after all is her family and should support her. But now since the truth is out I wouldn't be surprised if Allison considers to be a spinster as well. But Geogiana and Arthur were very supportive towards Charlotte. So Charlotte's position right now is to protect her independence and freedom from men. And Coulbroune not knowing what Charlotte really went though and his own experience what he went through tries to in his way protect Charlotte which is aggresive to Charlotte because she doesn't really know why he's acting the way he is. So in short sorry for writing a lot, Colbourne and Charlotte both dont know where they are coming from so no wonder why the episode ended in their misunderstanding and lack of knowledge about each other. They both need healing and understanding of both sides of their stories and journey they went through. So when finally they heal each other I bet Colboune will be the one to embrace and bring out (including Charlotte herself) Charlotte's independence and how women should be treated as an individual and not as an object of marriage. Maybe we will get a little bit of it this season but I know it's going to get worse because in order to build up season 3 they need to spice things up a bit but we will see everything unfold in season 3 like the saying goes "everything needs time and there's time for everything".

@@raven_in_disguise1649 Good observation Rusian. I was a bit concerned about Colbourne describing Charlotte as "my governess" and exclaiming as his governess he forbids her to engage with Lennox. (Although Charlotte put him in his place). But I think you are right it is coming from Colbourne Trying to protect Charlotte cos he knows what Lennox is really like.

@@elizabethkennedy9733 Thank you! Hopefully in the future when Colbourne will get to know Charlotte better he will realize that she doesn't need protection and that she can stand up for herself. Charlottw has always been the one to stand up for herself and Colbourne will fall in love with that Charlotte and Also I cant wait when Lenox will realize that as well because then he would think twice to not mess with Charlotte 😂

@@raven_in_disguise1649 great insight. I hope the writers will allow Charlotte to see the snake that Lennox is. I don’t want her to even like him as a friend.

Word.

I don't understand the distribution at all, but all of these videos are blocked for watching anywhere outside of the US, UK, Canada and Ireland for some reason. It must have to do with release dates, because with both PBS Passport and Prime, I'm able to get Episode 4. I will say that the show runner recently tweeted that they are hopeful the show will be available worldwide very soon, which should alleviate all the blocks. But I know that doesn't help you now. Hopefully these videos will keep you happy until the show releases everywhere. And rest assured I'm putting every minute of Charlotte and Alexander on here 🥰 🥰

So is Sidney 100% gone then? I thought he would have some sort of come back.. Also not to lie but mr stringer was my fave form the get go he was the most well rounded of all the men that were leads in season 1 is he gone to :'(

Yes. That’s what he told Charlotte in the last episode. That Colbourne had stolen Lucy from him and then “destroyed” her. But I think we saw enough of Lennox being devious in this episode to take that with a very large grain of salt 🙄

Yep I think I can guess who really did the destroying......Lennox, and the 'lucky to have you on my side' comment to Charlotte obviously meant to make Colbourne feel bad.

Just the use of him saying Colbourne "stole" Lucy from him is a red flag about his attitude. God forbid, the woman chooses someone else under no influence from anyone else.

It is the way the episode ended, but we have two episodes left in the season, and from the previews it gets better. What I loved seeing was the passion they both felt, even in anger. It will definitely get better. ❤️

@@susanfirth9883 Thank you so much for the insight. I am over here feeling very protective of Mr. Colbourne... as if I know him. LOL There's a gentle sweetness about him that makes me want to yell at Lennox for him. Thanks again. As soon as I saw episode 3 last night I was wondering will Susan post tomorrow... Thanks Susan.

Also Michelle we learn in this episode that the fabulous Arthur has a slight suspicion of the army being there and Lennox in particular and if Arthur doesn't trust or like him then neither do I

@@michelle1me Oh yea, Lennox is a snake. Look how he is manipulating Tom into being indebted to him.

@@elizabethkennedy9733 Good point. But is his trust in Lockhart well place. I actually thought Lockhart was going to be there for Arthur. I mean what starving artists is not after an heiress' fortune? Yes, I am a cynical B.

I was wondering if any of the girls might actually be Lennox's daughter; I hope not. Or did Lucy's twin have an affair with Lennox using Lucy's name...

It’s possible. We don’t know anything about Augusta’s father. Who is he? Why isn’t he raising her? I could be wrong and eating my words next week, but I am more suspicious that it was Lucy who cheated on Colbourne with Lennox. At one point - not in this clip - Lennox makes a comment about having Lucy in his arms. Colbourne’s jealous outburst at the end was problematic. I’ll withhold judgement until the next episode since he was angry after being harassed by Lennox the entire day. He refers to Charlotte as “my governess” twice in the episode rather than the girls’ governess. I could almost imagine him saying “my wife” instead of “my governess.” "You're my wife. I forbid it." Maybe he’s worried about history repeating? Excited for episode 5 for sure!

I honestly think that when Lenox said that "I had both and you had neither of them" I bet he wasn't just meaning the arrows but Lucy and her twin sister, o my goodness could both girls be his daughters??? First Lenox used Lucy twin sister then Lucy herself later. If this is true Man my heart breaks for Colbourne! This makes me fall in love with coulbourne even more especially if he endured all that pain and still tries to go forward and find connection. Perhaps when Colbourne told charlotte that it's best for the girls to not know him, because he's not even their father in the first place?

Oh my heavens Rusian, surely not. After reading your comment I went back and listened to the conversation under the tree again. He said only Augusta wasn't his child, meaning I suppose she was his neice, never said anything about Leonora. But don't suppose he would be spilling dark family secrets so soon to someone he has only just met. It will all come out in the wash as the old saying goes.

Lucy loved Lennox but she couldn’t marry him bc he was just a soldier, so she married Colbourne bc he was wealthy. Colburne loved her but she always loved Lennox. You could draw parallels between what happened to Sidney and Charlotte. It fits with the dialogue and explains why Lennox is so salty. He wasn’t lying when he said Colbourne stole her. Lucy dies, like Sidney. That’s why Colbourne thinks he’s unlovable. Haha! I can’t wait to be wrong but it’s fun to guess anyway. 😊