Sandy's First Look at the Ford F-150 Lightning Electric Truck! 

In my opinion this channel's biggest benefit is to consumers nervous or on the fence about whether to steer their hard earned money towards an EV. The information provided by Munro & Associates in invaluable. EV makers can learn from the channel too.

It's very nice to see Ford give Sandy and friends access. I hope they're paying them for consulting

Arcadius you give credit to people and companies that deserve condemnation. To others you give too little credit.

Sandy has trouble letting ppl speak

@@brich2929 well it is his ship so……

I like Corey. Talks well.

Yes well done Cory 👍

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw this video as well as the Elon Musk video

How is towing with electric? Curious, I don't need tons of towing every day, but it'd be nice to know I can tow at least 80km if needs arise, :)

@@Xyler94 It mainly depends on how aerodynamic the trailer is, and towing speed. We have a caged trailer with 6 240 litre bins standing up in it. At average speeds of around 80kmh we loose about 20% range. Previously we had 3 bins lying down in an uncaged trailer and a very full car, and lost about 10%. We collect about a ton of bread over three 50km trips in a week.

Preemptive strike.

They need to after the mache debacle in their thermal management and fastner (to many) and connection isssues(to many) Etc

Oh the frunk has cupholders. It’s a winner

@@brettmciver432 You really need to stop with that bullshit.

@@brettmciver432 So you want to talk about Tesla. Let's do shall we. "Tesla's Reliability Ratings Are Pretty Concerning But Does Anyone Actually Care?" In fact, the brand was ranked the lowest of 32 brands in the 2020 J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey. The reasoning behind the low ranking? Build quality issues. According to the survey, Tesla received a score of 205 problems per 100 vehicles, marking the highest among all of the automotive brands surveyed

Yup, they'll all sell well.

@@lrod8692 when you get down to it, most trucks are treated as toys.

@@rick67hou how so?

@@lrod8692 while a number of them are used by actual working people, it's rare when I see it carrying anything heavier than a couple of beer cans.

@@rick67hou I mean, like the saying goes you don’t need a truck until you need one. I can say the same thing about SUVs…. Wagons are more useful. Let’s take it a step further, a Prius is all you need for daily commuting.

If they were really smart they would partner with an appliance manufacturer and develop a custom fridge fitted precisely for that frunk.

@@Joe-xq3zu - (and here I was thinking...) double-tap electric jockey box and a couple of kegs.

@@Joe-xq3zu There are already a bunch to choose from, My Alpicool fridge freezer uses, 120, 12 and 24 volt which would fit nicely in their Frunk.

Maybe it was a fuel tank...

@@tophan5146 Challenger is a British main battle tank :)

The part that is really nuts is he said that is the only other place he has seen suspension like the F150 EV has.

we need a breakdown series on that

But is it electric? 🤔

First review of this truck that I’ve seen someone do that.

@Peter N _I was started work as an Architect at 19, then at 27 Design Engineer @Port Machinery_ _CYBRTRK is gonna bring me TO MY KNEES when the TRI arrives in 2022 here in Oz!_

I know, what the fuck

Peter N. - and did not share the view with us !

@@richardhobbs7107 _TOP SECRET!_ _l mean 'BOTTOM' SECRET!!!!_

Most likely this sell a few thousand a quarter like Mach-E and Ford pad themselves on the back mission completed.

@@YR2050 The best part of Ford's EV program is the way it effects Tesla fanboys that can't wrap their heads around the fact that other automakers are designing excellent products.

It was sexy

I had mine set to 2x speed. It was glorious

Honestly, it's very refreshing. I was fascinated by the 1950's automotive advertisements that would go into the engineering reasons their cars were better than their competitors', with little scale models to illustrate the systems. Now they resort to only trying to convey a "feeling" in the ads.

They do that because it’s simply more effective.

agree, Ford's commercials are maybe for midwestern people frozen in time 25 years ago?

They must be doing something right to be the number one selling vehicle for 44 years. Just saying!

Of course the truck is way bigger than the mache and they've probably used the same HVAC system.

Easy- throw out the gas engine.

@@jamesengland7461 lol.... the gas engine is relatively small, its the accessories around that takes place.

@@alanmay7929 the entire engine compartment is designed to hold the engine and its accessories. They are a package deal, and take up a lot of space. Power steering pumps and AC compressors, replaced with electric, can be packaged just about anywhere. Easy.

@@jamesengland7461 those are still very minor equipments, also the rest of the truck is empty and very easy to customise on n ICE truck, also smaller engines takes very little place.

😂🤣 I had been thinking about a few days ago!!! What she said was WAY ahead for it’s time.

A few months ago, when the Lighting was first announced, my mind was blown 🤯 at the idea of a “frunk”. Now I enjoying my ride of the all electric, hybrid, hybrid plus in hype train!!! My first thought was how may kidnapped people are gonna get tossed “in the frunk”. I was into forensics as a kid. Yes. I looked up multiple cases and read horrible things. My mind tends to go to dark places pretty quick as a result…..

You KNOW someone's going to bite?! 😁

He's also driving the makers of performance sports cars electric too! :)

And thank Elon for designing the ugliest, stupidest-looking EV truck so that Ford can sell more F-150 Lightnings to more customers.

@@MaxPower-11 just get out of here

@@MaxPower-11 Beauty is subjective and thank you for presenting your personal opinion on taste.

Even 2,000 lbs. in the bed won’t effect the range nearly as much as a small (2,000 lb.) trailer.

@@TraditionalAnglican Yes,our friend air resistance.

not true, not even close. its about a 2-3% difference

@@protovack I recall reading that the Model X had great mileage if not towing a trailer,but had much worse mileage with a trailer in tow. Some couple on RU-vid posted their experience with it.

490 is the unladen range of the Ford. They’ll spill beans in march. No need to tip off ev makers or Ford buyers now

Their vehicle manufacturing experience is showing with the Lightning.

...until Wallstreet sees their earnings once they begin shipping EVs.

@@oisiaa That’s the big question. Tesla is battery constrained. How many lithium suppliers and battery manufacturers are there that Tesla and Volkswagen don’t already have contracts with?

@@wattlebough They're cranking out Mach Es and all the major battery suppliers and OEMs are fucking hustling to increase capacity. Look at teslas new facility in Berlin, Daimlers new battery plans, LG, Panasonic etc. These are multibillion dollar companies and they know they need to secure battery supply.

Not really!

Good because Ford customer service is non existent. They’ll drop you like a hot rock as soon as you drive off.

Glad you enjoyed it!

And, bonus, you could fit several bags of concrete in there too!

Should make it easier to wash all that blood out.

If you can power open and close the frunk while driving, this thing would be like a live action Pac-Man. Another possible convenience for the mafia.

@@baptistpope That begs the question..Can this truck tow a freezer..

@@DQ-su6qf it could certainly power a freezer.

I hope so too!

@@MunroLive it seems you did a bit of editing in the video. I don't think Sandy responded to your comment about the Ford team "bustling". How did he see it?

good point, have the gear shift on the steering column so we can have a bench front seat in case we need to have 6 passengers.

Ford did a lot research on this. Most truck buyers like the shifter on the console. Ford could just stick a dial on the dash like Ram does or shifter on the column with lower tiers. Ford buyers like the console shifter plain and simple. And they pay more to get it.

I think most people are missing the point, that the legacy auto makers have always and are still subscribing to the mantra that they are putting as many parts into the vehicles as possible so they can maintain their spare parts business going forward! They certainly don't subscribe to the Elon Musk mantra that the best part is NO PART! E.g. example the Mach E has 35 hoses where I don't believe that the Ford Engineers are that stupid!

@@paulnichols5981 conspiracy theories. If Ford was in parts business they would be selling parts like crazy right. Parts shortage is real. Ford is in car business not in parts business.

why would you ever need to put your hand on the shifter after you get moving?

Its possible for a vehicle to have great features, look great, and still have lots of engineering flaws... Just like it's possible to have a bulletproof supercar drivetrain, no features ("minimalist") and inconsistent panel gaps🤣

Cars are like people. They have different aspects to them. I known very nice people who are very unhealthy. That doesn’t mean I won’t like them as a person.

How many hoses?

@@kschleic9053 have you even seen the cybertruck features.. because I'm pretty Shure nobody has.. but panel gaps lmao, your trying at least.

@@heiselblock I try hard when commenting on autoline to hide my Tesla bias... I own a model Y (perfect gaps) and paid for it with a small portion of my TSLA position. If anything, I'm trying hard to be fair to Ford🤣

That stupid, complicated shift lever should just be a button, or small column stalk.

Yup. Picture the BlackBerry evolving to the iPhone, and that’s the way the driver interface needs to go. Get rid of the clutter. Ford isn’t there yet - still too many buttons and gadgets - but the Lightening is a big leap forward.

If they have limited Battery supply they should only sell the high priced ones to get max dollars out of the limited batteries.

@@tomcrouchman Sell more lower trim battery wise, but up sell on accessories and bolt-ons.

usually it's the highest margin models first.

Ford will only be able to make a few tens of thousands of these for the first few years. Maybe 15K in 2022. Maybe 30K in 2023. If they make more than 30K in 2022, I will come back here and eat my hat.

I have not heard of limited battery supply specifically impacting Ford. SK is building the cells for this truck. Two additional dedicated plants are being built by SK in the US to supply up to 360GWh in cells.

Elon recently said the future of the CT is uncertain

The CT will become a reality. He said he was uncertain of its adoption, could flop. Wouldn’t buy a Delorean but I like seeing them. Worst case scenario, Delorean 2.0.

@@Icayn CT can star in a movie. Maybe... Back to the Future - Elon Saves the World

The truck market is large and diverse, I think there is plenty of room for them all.

@@Icayn chuckle. No he didnt. He just said that he knows it is polarizing and could very will fail. That doesnt mean it isnt certain. It just means its not known how much of a hit it will be.

With the Cybertruck you don’t need a tent. I’m assuming the back seats fold down and bed opens to the interior, then just put it in Camp Mode, works great on my MS.

@@Chainyanker007 there won't be a cyber truck until the middle of 2023

@@Chainyanker007 I totally agree and i'm a big Tesla fan but I'm just saying if you want to camp on the floor it makes sense.

Considering it's 20k over cybertruck. Not that excited.

@@prestontucker1687 it’s not $20k over the cybertruck lmao. Tesla fanboys sure are stupid

@@smarterthanyou2674 Check range.

@@smarterthanyou2674 90k vs. 70k is when range is close to equal. Better double check those numbers "smart" guy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@smarterthanyou2674 Who said I was a fanboy. As far as insults go... you're a one upper. Glad that went over your head.

Fleets are going to love these. Work 8-5 plug and it in over night. Lower operating costs. Less downtime.

Fleets is what keeps ford in business. This is perfect for that.

ikr! I still think that Ford will only have a little while in the sun as the ultimate utility is in the range, performance and price and the Cybertruck is too much better and cheaper, but there is real excitement in the creativity and innovation that went into this design. If they could combine it with a Tesla battery-pack though, there may be a broad market for it.

@@alaricgoldkuhl155 you mean when and if the Cybertruck comes out. Its been postponed yet again. But that doesn't matter because Ford has been the number one selling vehicle for the last 44 yrs and for a good reason. Ever hour of the day Ford sells 100 F-150 for 365 days of the year. Remember one's a lifestyle truck and the other is a common luxury work truck. People who own them don't have to buy new tool boxes, campers and bedcovers. And its large percentage of the state and government agencies workforce trucks are Ford F-150's. Not including the private sector and all of the loyal customers and contractors who have been purchasing them for years and decades. Not everyone wants a Cybertruck my friend and you can trust me on that one. They will both have a strong cult following but for completely different reasons.

@@twany442 I hope so dude. It would be a shame if a company with such an amazing history died after a hundred years because they missed the EV boat. The levels of innovation in this model are higher than perhaps any Ford product in decades which is encouraging. We need them focusing on the drive-train basics now though.

@@alaricgoldkuhl155 Nothing is wrong with the drive train. What re you talking about it's all new system. So please explain what you're trying to say?

@@twany442 Cybertruck claims more capacity: 3,500 pounds of payload, compared to the F-150’s 1,800 pounds; and 14,000 pounds of towing capacity, compared to 10,000 pounds. These are the specs that matter, and my hope is that Ford can close the gap a little at least. They are already likely to be selling their F150s at a loss in order to compete on price (makes sense since paying your best competition for regulatory credits is a nightmare), so I fear this won't happen anytime soon.

Big companies lobby for everything.

Nothing out of the ordinary all companies lobby to slow down the competition, or to benefit their company in some way. It sucks, but that's just how it is.

Its illegal in a lot of other countries. Its plain straight bribery.

Toyota be looking like a fool..... Toyota knows how to make a quality product that doesn't break. Zero innovation they're just copycats they made a better version of a GM car. That is impressive though 😂🤣

@Jimmy Edward exactly Microsoft couldn't save Nokia. Not sure if Tesla could save Toyota...

Thanks Jack

It's what sold me and my wife. Put our pre-order money very early. I like that we can use almost any accessory that was developed for a regular F-150. I also like that it looks like a truck, so we won't attract too much attention.

I also bring up the local tradesman. If the truck can get 100 or so miles while fully loaded, never requires a stop at a gas station, never gets taken off duty for an oil change, and doesn't wear the engine out idling during the summer/winter for climate control, it will be revolutionary.

They tend to boost their sales figures with cost or near cost fleet leasing. I would expect that.

re: "but doing so would mean that the EV sales would eat into the sales of the more profitable ICE versions." well not the sales of those truck buyers intelligent enough to recognize the F series is actually a FULL LINE UP of vehicles (ref: 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, etc) and that as great as the Lightning is, what it represents (even in it's BEST form) is still that of a "LIMITED USE CASE". source: F350 Dually owner.

They have 200,000 orders. They already make 70% of this truck. Ford has a winner here

To reduce potential damage from vibration caused by shock or moving over rough terrain. Trucks need to be able to handle more shock than regular passenger vehicles.

@@patreekotime4578 i dont know too many roads in NA that are perfectly flat. most are covered in holes!

@@jetah50 No clue what you are talking about. Sorry.

Could SABIC make a better, lighter, stronger battery?

Take a lot at battery powered power tools and find your answer

I'm also very excited about the Cybertruck. I'm not so excited about the yoke steering with an unadjusted steering ratio and mandatory auto-presenting doors with no manual door handles though, but we'll see what happens when it's here.

I think they are better of using a laptop.

If only Ford had an HDMI port that could allow you to use it as an external display with a laptop. That would be tremendously useful - even in portrait mode.

@@Megaphonix USB-C could do the job, I have a laptop connected to two screens with just one USB-C cable and that supports an external keyboard and mouse connected to the screens as well.

screen's too small. maybe as a secondary monitor from a laptop/tablet, would be good.

Allow it to be used as a Remote Desktop from your laptop, a client app running on the screen.

When Ford surveyed its customers they said that they wanted that type of shifter and that's why they put it in there they didn't want the one on steering wheel or a dial rotor. Ford listens to their customers that's why they've been number one for 44 years.

The car will easily be written off. Tesla sucks for repairability

@@vidznstuff1 Teslas are middle-of-the-pack for repairability. Model 3/Y are better than the old S/X, and the situation is rapidly improving. Some common repairs have become much more convenient than conventional models. Tesla now makes pre-painted bumper covers for the 3/Y. That is a major decrease in time and expense. Sure, doing that is made easier by only having 6 colors and using mobil service supported by regional centers, but you can't deny that is an advantage. Tesla also does automatic ADAS alignment and calibration. That might not seem like an obscure detail, but compare it to something like the Audi Q7. Bumper cover replacement requires the dealer to "recalibrate" the ADAS cameras and radar for a typical additional charge $650-$800.

Wait to see what the tear down reveals first.

Any idear when it is due not just to come out but be delivered in quantity?

@@Chainyanker007 no. This is a winner. Stop being a fanboy

they did that since many centuries. the only real significant problems happened at newbies like tesla. they almost went bankrupt because of that.

Considering Ford now has 200,00 orders for 2021s I’d say they will

Congrats!

Me too. Bailed on my cybertruck order

How's this more of a work truck than a Cybertruck? I always hear this being repeated.

High production value:)

This is what I wanna know ^^

Us too!

Thanks