Sargon and Shad Larp About Being Real Men 

I used to think Shad wore a gambeson cause he loved medieval armor, now I realize it's because he's so thin skinned.

"I wouldn't normally cite Andrew Tate, but he said women lose their value every time they sleep with a man...." Yes, Sargon, you absolutely would normally cite Andrew Tate.

Neither Shad or Sargon would survive 5 min. on an medieval battlefield. They have the bodytypes of the inbred nobles who paid them rather than the fighters themselves.

Yes sargon, no feminist has ever talked about women being objectified and traumatized by men. They've definitely never talked about that subject, especially in the context of the sex work industry. 😒

Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one. -Marcus Aurelius

I had no clue Shad was like this until he argued with Skallagrim about feminism and the Barbie movie on Twitter. Got increased respect for Skall though.

Five seconds in. Yes Sargon as we have cave paintings of people having sex. Porn is as ancient as writing. Augustus wouldn't have cared like any modern ACTUAL man.

Cam girl “I consent.” Paying customer “I consent” Augustus Caesar “I DONT!”

Sargon: I love the free market its great Free market: Theres a hole here for hyper-convenient cheaper sexual content Sargon: No not that free market

"Ladies, you *can* be powerful! You just have to realize that the only value you've ever had or ever will have is to be the sexual conquest of a man and then you can hold that over him and hope he's not the sort of guy that'll just take what he wants, which, statistically, isn't terribly likely. It's an incredibly empowering thing!" Also, there's nooooo fucking way they would have any issue with Andrew Tate if it was societally okay to do so...

I'm extremely skeptical that there was ever a time in history where doing great deeds to win fair maidens hand was a common practice. Seriously, just fairy tale larping. Oh, and when Shad talks about what a woman loses when engaging in these things, he's drawing from his religious background. There's nothing tangible they can point to, but Mormons are taught there's a spiritual loss and basically it damages your ability to have future relationships. So I second your advice. Don't fuck religious men.

All those years ago when Shad mentioned he was Mormon, I pretty much knew this was the route he'd go if he kept inserting his politics in his videos.

I know it was real subtle, but Carl called Shad's wife a cow to his face and Shad just agreed.

It's so funny seeing Sargon with his unbelievably smug facial expressions and his little suit, acting like he's this great scholar on history, culture etc. when he's just some Internet rando with zero meaningful accomplishments to his name.

I used to watch shad and he had some great insights into midevil history but I broke it off when he said he was going to take Mormon scripture over any historical evidence

When I learned Shad is mormon (despite living in australia lol), things started to make more sense...

As a sword guy shad doesn't speak for us most aren't cringe just odd

It's sad to see Shad go this route. But, ever since he got mad about artist protests against AI images it was clear to me that he's not worth anyone's time. Now he's a guest on Sargon's no-need-to-dog-whistle-anymore show? Yikes.

I'm not sure if anyone else has fallen off as fast and hard as Shad did. I used to watch his HEMA videos and fight breakdowns all the time. Now he's just another far-right anti-sjw type who is unbearable to listen to

“Men did great things to see boobs” I genuinely thought Shad was going to go on a diatribe about men writing poetry and sonnets, or painted and sculpted to win the hearts of the fair maidens. But, no. He talked about romantic journeys of conquests, because art is feminine and his audience (all men) only care about combat and fighting.

Y’know, it’s funny. Sargon and Shad are the kind of people who would get upset that you brought “whataboutisms” into conversations about men’s rights and Men’s issues. Failing to understand that THEY are the ones who brought the issues and rights of women, trans people, and gay people into the conversation in the first place. Like, bro, the reason we have to constantly bring up women’s rights when you talk about Men’s rights, is literally because you keep talking about how much you wish women didn’t have rights.

Shad: I'M THE LAST WARRIOR IN THE WEST! *proceeds to attack pool noodles in his back yard*

Laughed my god damn ass off when shad said women have a lesser drive. No shad, its just that no woman wants to fk you.

"They've robbed themselves of that potential" The potential slavish devotion to your husband because he has the resources that you need to not die? He's literally talking about a form of Stockholm syndrome. I'm gonna vomit.

I stopped watching Shad the moment I saw his crying over Wonder Woman. I heard he made a second channel dedicated to crying over media, but I had no idea he went this downhill.

"That type of connection and intimacy" What Shad meant to say was "that type of control and control" because he feels like he can't control women unless they're totally naive and have never experienced human relationships with anyone but him Because then they'll know he's an insecure control freak and they'll escape his basement on the first day. The very first day they'll be out of there. Gone.

The virgin Shadiversity vs. the chad Skallagrim.

"The problem is women being free" Wow. I think that sums up their views on women very nicely

This is the worst. As a man who is not very sexual. I resent being painted as a closeted sex fiend that these jokers suggest I am.

I almost forgot Sargon was a thing.

It’s wild to realize that Shad and Jazza are real brothers. I wonder how Jazza feels about this guy

None of the other HEMA guys need to get political. But as soon as one does, I know Shad will unironically try to chastise them for bringing politics into the hobby he loves.

The reason they keep emphasizing the whole "she felt empowered but then became miserable" narative is 100% in order to then transition this same talking point down the line to women in the workplace. There's a reason its such a vague and unspecific talking point. "Ah, see? You women thought you would be empowered by joining the workforce, but look at the statistics! Women are more miserable than ever! This is just like what we said with onlyfans. You feminists thought this wouod be so empowering but now look where you are. This is why we believe in natural, traditional, organic, cage-free christian values. Where women dont have to have these horrible stressful lives. They can jist ve at home and take care of the children, as is their place and where they are happy. Just look at how happy mothers are! Not a care in the world! Happy to be our servants-I mean slaves-i mean dutiful wives." Its all about setting the groundwork. Attacking onlyfans is the "sensible" thing to do. Its more palatable to attack. But once people are comfortable with that then it becomes attacking women in the workplace in general. Then its women making any sort of money on theur own or having any way of sustaining themselves, to ultimately push the goal of keeping women trapped in marriage, in the home, busy taking care of the children

Man, we’ve come a long way from when Sargon was a guest on Bibble Reloaded.

You have committed the most unforgivable offense against me, Jake. You reminded me that Sargon exists.

I said it once and I'll say it again. Skallagrim is the chad of the community. Shadiversity is the virgin.

The guy who steals other people‘s art, so he can call himself an „artist“ after an AI has mangled it together, and the guy who ran for political office by making rape jokes about female politicians… Yes, I‘m sure THOSE are the people we should listen to about how society should be.

I’m only 13 minutes in, but I find it very amusing to think that back when men commodified women themselves, they did respect them. This braindead attitude that women are hurting themselves because their taking their own means of production, their bodies, is weird. It’s rather…anti-Capitalist. Also, I used to like Shad a lot, I used to love watching him and other sword nerds. I stopped watching Mettatron when he started talking about gay people because I instinctively knew he was chuddifying before my eyes. I hope Jake addresses him too.

No, I knew I didn't want this crossover. But after seeing Shad mistreat his little helper minions in his videos, I kinda knew something like this was in the pipeline

27:20 If you read Shad's book Shadow of the Conquer that number can be as low as 14.

I mean, I will continue designing my characters, and writing my stories often involving what is considered pornography by these two, and I will go back to work, help my friends and family in the way I can, while also writing those stories with them, continue working on my hobbies, and still probably do those things. It really is an unfun, unsafe, and unexpressive world that they would make us live in. I'm glad that when I had my slide down the right wing pipe line, that my understanding that people are people no matter what they are doing, or what they're like held out. With a lot of help, and those morals still strong, I got out.

Shad fell down the far right rabbit hole fast, I remember when he collabed with OSP about Medieval Weapons, not surprising they dont affliate with him

I was only vaguely aware of Shadiversity for the longest time, and only learned he was a chud from his drama with Jack Saint. I can't say I'm surprised to see him there with Carl, but I feel like chumming it up with that peabrain must be a new low. Watching those two was brutal...

I had no idea Shad was a CHUD. I just thought he was a medieval weapons geek. Jesus Christ...

Oh boy... I think these two might break the meter on snobbery, whinny, little, nerds.

Shad is an Australian Mormon LARPing as an medieval English knight. I feel sorry for his family. The guy is clearly not doing well mentally. Good thing he is wearing a gambeson, that drop down the alt-right rabbit hole is a long one.

i only found out shad was a right-wing freak when he lost his mind about the mario movie and jack saint, but seeing him on sargon now certainly isn't a surprise anymore. feel really bad for his daughters. (highly recommend jack's videos on him btw, they're quite funny)

The irony of Shad's take on Chivalry.... there are like two examples of that ever remotely happening. Two. One was an excuse to set off the already prepared-for war, and the other I can't strictly recall the details. One was your typical fight over a woman and the other was the "rescuer's" mother or stepmother.

Honestly, the best part about OF is that it takes some power away from large companies, like MindGeek (they own pornhub), producing companies and model companies. You can easily look up how pitifully pornstars are paid, the issues with testing for STIs, and especially the issues with sexual assault, which is often brushed under the rug by model companies. Companies often post clips or even full videos on PH and the stars in the video earn jack from the ad revenue. At least on OF people can pick who they'll work with, make sure people are tested, and get paid the income they earned.

Don't mess around Jake. That one with the glasses is a student of the blade. In fact, he graduate valedictorian from Blade High School. Don't make him unsheathed his sword by provoking him.

I've seen Cuties. It's about how sexualizing kids is BAD. If these morons do not grasp that, then THEY are the problem.

It’s hilarious how these are the men who feel qualified to opine about how society should be. You’d think they’d be more successful given how hard they push for people to live as they demand.

Oh wow so shad is completely mask off

shads own brother, jazza, has denounced him lmao

The irony of asking if a Roman would be upset that women are making successful businesses with their bodies... as Romans do whatever tf they want with women whenever they want is actually wild.

I can't take having my heart broken anymore. Too many people I respected fell for this cult. It has to be stopped. (talking about Shad not Sargon).

every once in a while i was tempted to watch a shad video. 30 seconds in every time and i remember that he's a total tool

Pitch: Sargon and Shad starting a joint OF account where they parade around in bikini armour...

Next to people who are very big fans of Roman history, guys who are really into medieval larping always seem to have an fasci side to them. I knew a group of guys I used to do SCA with who were WAY into their "viking heritage", which is not an automatic red flag to me.

OnlyFans is such a definitive example of late-stage capitalism, but these guys cant directly criticize that.

I think the reason Shad and Sargon think prostitutes in the Roman Empire were only allowed to have one client at a time is because they're confused and the opposite was true in Edo era Japan: Clients of the pleasure district were technically only allowed to see one courtesan at a time. The reverse was very unfortunately not true and it lead to courtesans having to do shit up to and including cutting off their fingers to "prove their love" to their clients.

I was a cam girl. And yes it's Commodifying our bodies because we choose to. We're just using the Assets we have 😂 Girls like us is very positive about sex. Some people says it's degrading. I don't think it is and I'm kinky Degradation can be fun if negotiations and consent is involved. Point is women make the choice for themselves. They're just mad because we're the type of women that just does wtf we want. And fallow the Wiccan rule doesn't matter if you're Wiccan or not. "If ain't it harm none, do what you will"

How is getting thousands or millions a month in ad revenue just to spew unsourced opinions every few days not lazy? How is anything these guys do not lazy? They don't work 9 to 5. They arent doing backbreaking male, masculine labor jobs (that they want women out of) at all themselves. Matt Walsh has an ear piece where his lines are fed to him, to say.

_"What can they do?"_ He asks, having never actually talked to a feminist about the subject. Such a towering intellect.

The whole "giving the magic away" thing has zero logic. It's literally just them being insecure about their sex skills. what.

For $20,0000 there would be no limits on what I would be willing to insert.

"Yesss.. When women had more restrictions on their social lives, men got to do more!"

After all these years Sargon STILL loves talking about that Cuties movie. Whats that saying about protesting *too* much?

would Augustus have allowed OF. ... I'm sorry - are we talking about Augustus as in Ancient Rome? DFQ!? "Prostitution was legal, public, and widespread" "It was considered natural and unremarkable for men to be sexually attracted to teen-aged youths of both sexes" "prostitutes sometimes displayed themselves naked at the entrance to their brothel cubicles" ~~ wikipedia, "s*xuality in ancient rome" And OF ain't even prostitution. ... Augustus? Augustus??? Augustus would probbaby be thinking "what are these crybabies crying about, I got an empire to run and wars to fight".

I just recently stumbled onto your channel. Really enjoy your commentary. Love seeing a guy on YT who isn’t a fucking wierdo. And has good and normal advice and presents masculinity in a way that doesn’t make me throw up in my mouth.

these people empower the creeps that are horrible to OF creators

There's no such thing as a "problem of prostitution" Unless you're talking about exploitation.

1, not all christians are like american christians, that assumption is very derogatory and discriminating 2. Mormons are not Christmas

The next God's Not Death title is, "God's Not Death 4 - OnlyGod!"

Dammit, the Venn Diagram between medieval history geek and chud is a circle at this point. I need to reconsider my hobbies now.

What losers

I’m glad I stopped watching Shad when he got whiny because fantasy isn’t realistic.

Sargon: If the boyfriend is ok with you having an onlyfans, he's not a man, or at least not a man I respect. Me: Please, men. I want all of you to strive to be men that Sargon wouldn't respect. All the things he thinks men should be: don't. He is the low-quality man here.

"men did great things when they couldn't just see breasts all the time" is such a wild thing from a dude who clearly doesn't even wash his face regularly

I find it strange they would think Augustus would be against it. Wasn't prostitution legal in Rome?

These guys don't realise that some cultures don't cover their boobs. They still get stuff done.

Hey now! Not fair calling them out on their jobs of non-heroics! They got distracted by only fans! Didn't you listen?!^^

There's a bunch of problems with prostitution: the human trafficking portion, underage, drug use, still. Only fans fixes some, mitigates others and outlawing doesn't work as well as as regulation.

I never knew shad was such a reddit mod. This is news to me not that i watch his fkn channel ive seena few vids but im not subbed thank god. Ok you should NEVER quote andrew tate EVER “I was around the age off uh 11 when i started having sex” *D O U B T*

Noooo, not Shad 😢!!

The dudes who keep going on about "legacy" are the same dudes who always going on about "Our grandchildren NEED to carry on our family name!" When their last name is Johnson

Honestly shocked to see shad here, I havnt seen anything from him in a few years, I used to enjoy his takes on historical weapons.

These two guys define performative masculinity.

I’m so sad to find out the resurgence of gamergate and through ai art of all things. But it makes so much sense.

These two definitely still snicker when they say boobs to each other in their day to day lives.

Augustus wasn't really a chad, he usually let other dudes like Agrippa do the fighting.

When these types talk about what a man is I always feel insulted like I'm so much more as a man and I wish to be so much more as a man.

Maybe it's because I don't know much about the Roman Empire, but given that Augustus Caesar lived well before Constantine I'm pretty sure he would have absolutely no problem with porn.

Sargon has been shitty for a very long time, but he used to be too detached emotionally from what he discussed and made everything clinical, he couldnt comprehend empathy. Yet now he sounds like all his opinions are driven by emotion.

Literal prostitution was LEGAL during the time of Augustus, so yes, Only Fans doesn't hold a candle to that, and so yeah, pretty sure Augustus wouldn't have given a sh*t, lmao

'Guys did great things when it was difficult to see boobs' Well, that explains you lot then

I can't believe I ever used to watch that guy (Shad, not Sargon)... Seeing him now embarrasses me...

The drownjng england issue was you made it sound like it was to get rid of christians, not one mormon, when mormons only recently decided they were Christian.

It's funny Sargon is a Christian now when about a decade ago he read chic tracks with Hannah and Jake

Shad has health issues that cause difficulties with breathing and resting, he isn't defending or protecting anyone!