Saucony Ride 17 vs. Guide 17 vs. Triumph 22 vs. Endorphin Speed 4 vs. Endorphin Pro 4 Comparison

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Brandon dives into the world of Saucony running shoes with a detailed showdown between all the shoes he’s run in for 2024: the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4, Endorphin Pro 4, Ride 17, Guide 17 and Triumph 22.
All five have similarities, differences, use cases that make them unique. Today, we get into the nuances that will help you make an informed decision when building your Saucony shoe rotation.
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5 июн 2024

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@ThaCurbdog Месяц назад

I ran in the Triumph 22 yesterday for the first time. The toe box is voluminous for sure. For those saying the cushion is somehow “firmer” I simply don’t get it. I’m 140 pounds and I sink easier into the midsole than previous versions and it’s noticeable. I get more energy return than the 20/21. The increased width is for sure felt. It’s a much more stable comfort cruiser than earlier versions. I dig em!

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

Thanks for letting us know how you like the new Triumph 22!

@stephanemichel1071 Месяц назад

The Ride17 has been a bit disappointing. Short laces, protubérant heel counter hurting the Achilles, narrowness of the mid foot.not a bad shoe, works great to log miles as well as on the track but for larger feet, I would recommend the wide size. Thanks for your video

@ianlowe4126 Месяц назад

Excellent video. 5 shoes thoroughly and professionally reviewed with all the information we need in the time it takes some to review one shoe. Glad you described the speed 4 as a tempo day shoe. I’ve seen some reviews saying they are a ‘do it all’ shoe which they are not. I’ve had mine a month and in my experience at slow pace they are unstable even clunky but pick the pace up and the personality of the shoe changes completely and are as you described.

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

We try to keep it short and sweet! No reason to spend hours researching through reviews. The Speed 4 is a great tempo day shoe. And I agree, it's not the first shoe I am lacing up for easy miles. To be fair, I think it could do everything, but it's better suited at higher paces for speed work and race day. - Brandon

@DTOWNRW16 Месяц назад

Roll with the saucony tempus for my daily miles, and the speed 3 for workouts and quicker work. Metaspeed sky paris for my race shoe but I did my first half marathon in the endorphin pro 3 and very much enjoyed that

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

The Pro 3 is a trusted race day shoe and the Tempus is a sleeper pick! - Brandon

@DTOWNRW16 Месяц назад

@fleetfeet699 doing the broad street in the sky next week. If I'm fast enough I'll make the push for doing my first marathon. Might go with the pro 3s for that just due to the comfort and support over a long race.

@markscholeno7824 Месяц назад

Love the Speed 1 & 2 & Pro 3. New ones are heading in the wrong direction. Pro 3 is still same price as Pro 4, I wonder why? I have only found one video where the reviewer actually pointed out that the Speed 1 & 2 were better shoes. But I realize you need to sell the new shoes so promoting them as a better shoe will help with that.

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

I loved the Speed 2. At it's time it was the best speed yet. To this day, I have logged more miles in the Speed 2 than any other Speed. The firmer and faster ride was aggressive and snappy and so much fun, similar to the 1st model. I wouldn't put anything against that model. The 3rd and 4th model went up in stack, became softer, and became entirely different shoes. It's hard to compare 1 and 2 vs 3 vs 4. It's more indicative of the trend we are seeing toward softer and higher stack shoes than better vs worse. - Brandon

@MartinCharlton-ds7ro Месяц назад

Absolutely agree - loved both the Speed 2 & the Pro 2 - was initially unsure about the Pro 3 but it is great for racing in and I guess they were looking to differentiate between the Speed and the Pro in version 3.

@jamieoliverjones3775 Месяц назад

Bang on - exactly the same. I had 2 pairs of the speed 2. Thought the speed 3 were just so much duller. The pro 3 are amazing though (on my second pair) and tried on the pro 4, which feel exactly the same of pro 3 so at least they have not been ruined.

@RunnerdJK Месяц назад

Easily your best video since you joined Fleet Feet 👏🏼

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

Thank you so much! I hope I can continue to provide the information you all need. Your support means everything! - Brandon

@mattkilloran Месяц назад

The Speed 3 is my absolute favorite daily trainer. I tried the Ride 17 and it felt firm and a little heavy. I ordered the Triumph 22 after seeing it was getting Pwrrun PB. The weight and clunkiness was even worse and it has zero breathability. I might try the Speed 4 and Pro 4 but I’m not sure it’s much of an upgrade from the 3.

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

Most of our review team is loving the Speed 4 for its versatility, and in my opinion, super breathable upper. Let us know how you like it if you end up picking it up. - Max

@prettyneatperformance 22 дня назад

I just grabbed two pairs of the Speed 3s since they went on sale but I am looking for a long run shoe separate from my race days and was going between the Ride or Triumph and after this video I think I will go with the Ride 17.

@fleetfeet699 21 день назад

Sounds like a great option to us to stay within the Saucony family!

@femaciel Месяц назад

Great vid and way of explanation!

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

Thank you! We are glad you enjoyed it.

@Ou8y2k2 Месяц назад

The Ride and Guide 17s are the best looking shoes on the market, but I'll probably get the New Balance Rebel v4 because of the lower weight.

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

Can't fault you there! The Rebel v4 got a big upgrade this year. - Brandon

@Adamas11 Месяц назад

What about the Tempus? Guide 17 or Tempus 1 (or 2 which is supposed to be released this summer)? I ran in the Brooks Adrenaline GTS for years because I needed at least moderate stability (borderline narrow, and flat feet). They did the job, but wanted something lighter and springy, so grabbed the Tempus about 1 1/2 years ago. I am on my fourth pair and haven’t looked back, until the Guide 17 came out, which peaked my interest… FYI, I run a 5k 4-5x/week. Not a massive mile runner. I just do it to keep in shape.

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

We only included the shoes we had at our immediate disposal for this video! The Tempus 2 is slated for 8/1 and we're looking forward to making content around it when we get our hands on it! - Max

@winklertribe5268 Месяц назад

Hey Brandon, great saucony overview! If you could only get one pair for all of your running, which would you choose?

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

Hmmm, great question. I think the Endorphin Speed 4 is best in class. Can't go wrong there! - Brandon

@Ryankam91 19 дней назад

Which is the best for daily walking or working? I have a wide foot, with slight arch, I'm a heavy tall guy and just need something that won't make my feet feel like they're dying. I have the echelon 9 and they're fine but I do want to try something else

@YY-bp2rq Месяц назад

When I go for half or longer run, my toes start hurting, like they are being compressed and circulation is cutoff 😢 I wear Speed 3 or Pro 3. I thought maybe it’s because of Speedroll…? Do you have a recommendation please! 🙂

@fleetfeet699 Месяц назад

It's difficult to make recommendations without seeing your feet and assessing your biomechanics. We recommend visiting a Fleet Feet near you and going through our custom Outfitting Process so we can make the right recommendations!

@user-fv1576 16 дней назад

The ride 17 has been out for awhile , it’s a hard forefoot. When’s the ride 18 available?

@fleetfeet699 15 дней назад

Not until 2025, we'd assume.

@pkrunner4906 Месяц назад

Please refer me for comrade marathon stability and pace maintain 4:30to5

@rileymaynor Месяц назад

The Guide 17 is already “GOATED” in my book. I actually have a hard time not wearing this shoe lol

@hexfire Месяц назад

PWRRUN+ is probably the most durable foam on the market and you say that can handle just 400 miles and in a way that it's a lot. Come on. Triumph could easily handle 1000-1500km and still be as bouncy. That's also confirmed by Saucony themselves. 400 miles (640km) would be the average mid/low for most other shoes, but definitely not shoes like Triumph (now Ride 17).