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Savage A17WSM | A 17WSM Semi-Auto? 

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I've owned the Savage B-Mag in .17WSM for about 10 years now and it has been a great bolt action rifle for the WSM. Savage has now released the A17WSM, a semi auto, delayed blowback rifle for the potent .17 Winchester Super Magnum round. Watch as I test it mostly for reliability, but also a little bit for accuracy. I'm using the same scope I had mounted on my Savage B-Mag.
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@nunyabeezwax1413
@nunyabeezwax1413 4 месяца назад
Finally I’ve been waiting on these since they announced them 2 years ago. I have a 17 hmr version in the same stock and I love it.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I've been waiting on it a while myself. So long that I had forgotten about it! Thanks for watching!
@bradboles9202
@bradboles9202 4 месяца назад
Have 2 of the wsm and they both are tack driver at a 100
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
My BMag is a great shooter.@@bradboles9202
@oneangrycanadian6205
@oneangrycanadian6205 4 месяца назад
SWEET!!! I have the 17hmr and have been wanting a semi 17wsm!!!!! I’m getting it as soon as my gun shop has one
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for watching!
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 4 месяца назад
I love the wood pattern of that stock!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
It is a purdy one! Thanks for watching Dustin!
@TacticalJackalope
@TacticalJackalope 14 дней назад
Hi Dustin, Savage uses Boyd's stocks as the OEM for many of their stocks. They even make a stock from the Marauder.
@johnfila6480
@johnfila6480 4 месяца назад
i cant wait to get one!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Keep your eyes peeled! Thanks for watching!
@scottmorgan1016
@scottmorgan1016 4 месяца назад
Interesting cartridge. I might look into this round. I like the looks and the fps is awesome. The rifle looks great
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
It's supposed to have the optimal amount of powder in it. Just enough to send the round screaming, but not enough to burn up your barrel. Thanks for watching!
@oneangrycanadian6205
@oneangrycanadian6205 3 месяца назад
The local store I go to for rifles and fishing will have these next week. Got mine in order being held for me. CANT WAIT lol
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
I hope you enjoy it!
@natepeterson2667
@natepeterson2667 4 месяца назад
That’s a neat gun!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
It is pretty cool, but I think I like the bolt action better. Thanks for watching!
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 4 месяца назад
thats pretty cool idea
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Thanks for watching Joe!
@johnrialon6963
@johnrialon6963 4 дня назад
I had one ordered since shot show debut. Finally got it a week ago. Broke barrel in with about 50 rounds at 100 yards. Averaged 2” groups (my Bmag 17 WSM shoots 1” groups). Bedded front pillar and ordered piccatinny rail.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 дня назад
My BMag is more accurate too, even if I'm not. Thanks for watching!
@brianpencall4882
@brianpencall4882 3 дня назад
The delay is necessary to allow pressure to drop to a safe level, before the action opens. Savage made a pretty good video about this, when the A17 was first introduced.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 дня назад
You are correct. Thanks for watching!
@stefanfful
@stefanfful 4 месяца назад
Wish someone would make a revolver in WSM.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Years ago Taurus and, I think it was S&W, used to make a .17HMR revolver. I kind of wish I had one of those but I think a WSM revolver would be pretty neat too!
@Kesrick
@Kesrick 4 месяца назад
Agreed! Been saying that for a few years now. Also, the 17WSM and 5.7x28 are almost identical length so maybe a semi-auto pistol is possible?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I'm sure it could be done.@@Kesrick
@Kesrick
@Kesrick 4 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Also, since the 27 caliber RamSet is larger and would hold more powder than a 22 WMR, when will Winchester follow up with the 22 WSM?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Who knows?@@Kesrick
@nopro5433
@nopro5433 4 месяца назад
That’s a beauty! I had a custom 93R17 17 the guy leaded the stock picked up from a savage Target Comp. shooter I did do Vid. Yrs ago.put some Hot Rod Stripes on it as well I traded it off kick myself ever since🥴
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
That's a good looking rifle! I like the "Hotrod" look! Is that the TRR-SR 93R17?
@nopro5433
@nopro5433 4 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I believe so had the rare xl. kegger bolt on it Was a great shooter.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I've been wanting the TRR-SR for years. I'm not a fan of the scope mount they put on them, the ones with three picatinny rails on it. @@nopro5433
@Squib1911
@Squib1911 4 месяца назад
Interesting rifle.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Neat little round too. I need to do some more testing with it. Thanks for watching Squib!
@SkunkWorksRifle
@SkunkWorksRifle 4 месяца назад
Nice rifle 😎👍🇺🇸
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
It is a pretty one! Thanks for watching!
@Eric_in_VA
@Eric_in_VA 4 месяца назад
It seems to be printing 3" groups at 100 yards. I hope to see a future video where this fine rifle settles down some.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Another viewer pointed out that he had some issues with the factory scope bases. I have it back in the vice for some checking right now. It does appear that there could be some issues with my bases as well. Not a whole lot but a little bit at the rifle, can have a big effect at 100yds. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
@8626John
@8626John 4 месяца назад
Nice video, Richard. Sounds like the neighborhood dogs aren't too happy about the gunshots. Lol. I have a couple of Savage rifles with the Accutrigger, and I find them very accurate. A shoot-n-c target helps me speed up the sight-in process once I'm on paper.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I'm not too happy with that dog either! I've been happy with all my Savage rifles but I think this one has something going on with it. A follow up video may be in order. Thanks for watching!
@ronbittenbender
@ronbittenbender 4 месяца назад
Nice review, Now just if Ican find one.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I was on a waiting list for so long (2 years), I forgot I requested it. I'm not sure when they'll show up on shelves. Good luck on your hunt and thanks for watching!
@ronbittenbender
@ronbittenbender 4 месяца назад
Yeah guess no chance any time soon on that LOL@@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Sorry! I wish I could help!@@ronbittenbender
@ronbittenbender
@ronbittenbender 4 месяца назад
Well I had sent you my email but you deleted it was trying to get ahold of the dealer that got that to you LOL.@@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins Месяц назад
I use 1 shot zero, it always works for me! The most likely reason for the large group is a loose or improperly seated scope.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview Месяц назад
I've used two different scopes on this rifle, and used the Wheeler Fat Wrench to torque them down. I think there might be something else going on here.
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins Месяц назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Hope it's not a bad barrel, but Savage should be good for it.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview Месяц назад
I hope so. Thanks for watching!
@Skyhawks1979
@Skyhawks1979 2 месяца назад
Im on every waiting list in America for this rifle...no joy.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 2 месяца назад
Sorry! I hope you get it soon. Thanks for watching.
@briandaugherty492
@briandaugherty492 2 месяца назад
Where did you find one? I've been looking everywhere. Last time I contacted Savage, I was told they had decided not to release it in a 17 WSM version due to supply chain issues. Also, did you ever get your accuracy issue sorted out?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 2 месяца назад
I was put on a list almost 2 years ago and it finally arrived at my LGS. It had been so long ago that I had completely forgotten about it. Thanks for watching!
@anthonylautzenheiser3802
@anthonylautzenheiser3802 4 месяца назад
That beautiful stock is kinda ruined by the Big "A series" mark under the ejection port.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Yeah, it would be nicer without it. Thanks for watching!
@danthompson1467
@danthompson1467 4 месяца назад
What’s the deal I have had that on order when it hit the website and nothing has come in yet 🤔. Hopefully it will show up soon 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I may have an inside connection! I did request it almost 2 years ago too. Thanks for watching!
@Kesrick
@Kesrick 4 месяца назад
Does this mean that the A17WSM may actually be released soon? I have been waiting for one for 2 years now!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I can't day for sure, I waited on this one for about 2 years myself.
@Kesrick
@Kesrick 4 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I love my B-Mag in a Boyd Stock. Sub-moa all day but I want semi-auto and the Franklin Arms upper is just too much $$$.
@robbieandbeckie
@robbieandbeckie 4 месяца назад
Savage scope bases are often lopsided. I had to adjust a scope on a Savage Mk2 about that much. Most scopes will not hold adjustment that far from center. Buy some quality scope bases.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
These were the ones that came on the rifle. I started to wonder the same thing. That seemed like a lot of windage adjustment. Thanks for watching!
@robbieandbeckie
@robbieandbeckie 4 месяца назад
@SmallCaliberArmsReview It took me a while to figure out what was going on with my Savage Mk2 22. I thought the scope was bad and sent it in for repair. Put a different scope on it in the meantime and same issue. I thought it might be drilled and tapped off center. I did some research and some measuring. The scope bases were not square. I bought an EGW base and problem solved. It is a tack driver now and holds zero like a vice. Good luck! I missed the release of the 17WSM in the A17. Will be looking for one now. I guarantee I will put different bases on before I fire a shot!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Since doing the video, I have it back in the vice with the optics removed. Placing a level on both bases, It appears there is a little difference between the two. Not much, but it doesn't take much to affect the round at 100yds. I'll be doing some tinkering because I know my BMag shoots much better than this one.
@shawnmorgan4158
@shawnmorgan4158 4 месяца назад
I'm a wanting one of those babies. Usually taking the block out and soaking it in acetone helps,also sometimes those stocks need a little sanding.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I like to spray them with Remoil, but acetone would really break up the crud. Surprisingly, the stock feels pretty good. Thanks for watching!
@georgeaura
@georgeaura 4 месяца назад
Any link to the bore snake?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
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@chucker2571
@chucker2571 4 месяца назад
Gees you never heard of Google before. Some people?
@H1013
@H1013 4 месяца назад
I'm a little disappointed with the accuracy. Why do you think is that?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Honestly, I think the scope bases and the bore don't exactly align correctly. I mounted two different scopes and had to dial both of them to the right more than 70 clicks to be close to the bullseye. I have the BMag as well, it's a great shooter. Thanks for watching!
@H1013
@H1013 3 месяца назад
⁠Thank you for replying to my comment Richard. I watched the two videos you have on this rifle. I was looking for two, one for me and one for my son, called Savage many times and they told me they gonna start production last fall, when to the gun store, place my order on August and after six months but I quit. Canceled the order and get two Ruger Precision. Let me ask you a question, do you think the Savage BMag it’s a better option?
@H1013
@H1013 3 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I wonder if the BMag have more impact been bolt action. What’s your opinion on that?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
I bought the Bmag back when it first hit the shelves about 9 or 10 years ago and I love it. The .17WSM ammo is not the cheapest and when you put it in a semi-auto, you'll tend to shoot a lot more. I like bolt actions, they seem to encourage you to take your time and make, well placed, accurate shots. The Ruger Precision is a great rifle too, both rimfire and center fire.
@M2OReefs
@M2OReefs 8 дней назад
Is there a higher capacity magazine available?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 8 дней назад
Butler Creek makes some 25 round mags, but I think they are for the HMR.
@M2OReefs
@M2OReefs 7 дней назад
@SmallCaliberArmsReview the popularity of that tiny round annoys me. People love it. They use it for animals far too large. The wsm is the only rim fire I use for coyote and bobcat.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 7 дней назад
It's very effective on groundhogs too!
@user-ez9vh6bj7x
@user-ez9vh6bj7x 4 месяца назад
where can we get one?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Check with your local gun store. Thanks for watching!
@bubbag9429
@bubbag9429 4 месяца назад
I know its nothing about this video, but could you list the tools you use to make holsters? Thanks
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
That might be a little tough. I use several different tools. The most important one is a good sharp knife. A good set of stitching chisels, whatever spacing you prefer for your project. Some type of grooving tool. As for stamping tools, that will depend on your design. You know, this would be a great topic for a video. Stay tuned, I may see about doing it this weekend!
@bubbag9429
@bubbag9429 4 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview thanks, I'd like to try and make one for my man with no name. Just didn't know the tools you used for the Pale rider, stitching tools
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Here's a set of chisels on Amazon amzn.to/3SI4iwl@@bubbag9429
@bubbag9429
@bubbag9429 4 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview thanks, I'll check them out, is that revolver the 45/44 conversion?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
The Pale Rider? It's a regular 44cal black powder, but I do have one in 45 colt.@@bubbag9429
@M2OReefs
@M2OReefs Месяц назад
I've been trying to find one for about 2 yrs. How'd you get one??
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview Месяц назад
I put my name on a list a little over two years ago, I had completely forgotten about it when I got the call. Hopefully they'll start showing up on the shelves soon. The ammo is currently pretty hard to find. Thanks for watching!
@M2OReefs
@M2OReefs 7 дней назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I found one too last week. 😀
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 7 дней назад
@@M2OReefs Very Cool! I hope you enjoy it!
@lilbean7524
@lilbean7524 4 месяца назад
How’s it been so far?
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
So far, so good. I will be doing another video on it soon. Thanks for watching!
@glennllewellyn7369
@glennllewellyn7369 3 месяца назад
Bring back the 5mm Remington.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
I've heard of them, don't think I've ever seen any. Thanks for watching!
@josephgriesenauer7895
@josephgriesenauer7895 3 месяца назад
Looks like a nice rifle but you still can't find the ammo for them at a reasonable price. There's none on the shelves of most stores so you have to deal with the price gouging online. So right now that's just an expensive paperweight.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
I feel your pain! Hopefully it'll hit the shelves again soon. Thanks for watching!
@tremaineangus6474
@tremaineangus6474 3 месяца назад
Buddy, you walking around down range in front of a chambered rifle? 😲
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
If there's one in the chamber, its left with the safety on and turned slightly away from the target. On a bolt action, I will leave the spent cartridge in the chamber and still turn it slightly away. Thanks for watching!
@Peace-ju9us
@Peace-ju9us 2 месяца назад
won't be buying a 17WSM any time soon
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 2 месяца назад
I love the B-Mag, I'm not as keen on the semi-auto version. Thanks for watching!
@chucker2571
@chucker2571 4 месяца назад
A couple of things. Winchester can't make rimfire ammo that is accurate. Secondly the 17WSM is dead, ammo is too hard to find. Just go with a 17 Hornet of some flavor. You can atleast reload for it. If all you were after was to see if it would go bang, then success. I demand more from my bang sticks. Good luck on the project you just bought!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@user-dl5yr1dl3g
@user-dl5yr1dl3g 3 месяца назад
No ammunition is available they have quit producing it Great gun BUT no ammunition!!!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
I can't imagine the stopping production completely, I'm sure they do limited runs like many other calibers. The parent case is from an industrial powder actuated tool load that has been in production for many years.
@user-dl5yr1dl3g
@user-dl5yr1dl3g 3 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview they! Have not produced any since 2022
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
Oh, wow! I hadn't heard that.
@user-dl5yr1dl3g
@user-dl5yr1dl3g 3 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview only old stock available only if you see it buy it! Ask your gun shop for the truth especially the 20 grain!
@BadDawg444
@BadDawg444 4 месяца назад
If only it wasn’t a Savage.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I like Savage! Most of them are made right here in the USA too.
@BadDawg444
@BadDawg444 4 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Honstly, I’ve had issues with every savage I’ve owned. My friend has too. I had one of the first WSM’s that Savage made. The bolt one. It was horrible. Threw fliers constantly. My friend had a couple of Savages too that he had nothing but problems with. Switched to CZ. Too many internal plastic parts in the Savages.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
My B-Mag has been great from day one. I did buy a CZ512 (.22 MAG), It wouldn't cycle at all. I sent it back and they fixed it. Excellent customer service.
@BH-kg1wu
@BH-kg1wu 4 месяца назад
I am not going to bash the 17 WSM. If it suits your needs, and it's good for you then have at it. 6 plus years ago, I wanted to do more prairie dog hunting since I retired. I had always hunted them in MT a day or 2 before the guys arrived for deer or afterward if we had time. So I reload and always used a 222 for PDs.. My 1st summer that I went PD hunting after retiring, I came back with a whole lot of ammo to reload from the .222 and had to limit shots due to barrel heat. I don't mind reloading, but when you are talking reloading in the upper 100s, it doesn't get to be fun. So, I wanted an alternative to reloading and more shooting. I looked at the 17 hmr and 17 wsm. Why I chose the 17hmr over the 17 wsm.. 1. Less noise 2 Ammo cost for the 17wsm is considerably more than for the 17hmr. Now 2 to 3 times more per shot!! 3. 17hmr ammo weighs a LOT LESS and takes up a LOT LESS space in your pockets. Try carrying 300 rounds or more of 17 wsm in the field with you!! I normally don't hunt near my truck, and I am out for hours away from it. I don't fell like going back to the truck for more ammo due to weight or storage issues. 4. I assume the barrel will heat up faster on 17wsm since it shoots a faster bullet. Also, I have never had a bolt action fail me, but I have had a semi-auto rifle fail me. I don't like fixing stuff in the field or have to go back to the truck to hopefully fix it. 5. I can get within 200 yds or slightly more for all the prairie dogs to get all the shooting that I want or can do. I know the 17wsm is capable of further range, but I don't have a need for that. 6. The 17hmr is powerful enough for PDs. I have shot countless doubles and one threesome at 92 yds. 7. I use a Votex 6.5x20-50 scope. I would think that once you approach the 300 yd range you might need more power for a small target like PDs to have consistent kills which probably means more money for a scope. Oh, you will pay more $$$ for the 17wsm versus the 17hmr also unless you get some kind of super deal. Those are just a few reasons I chose the 17hmr over the 17wsm. I have the Savage B17 bull barrel and love it with several of the 10 round clips that I carry with me. I have had that barrel very hot as well on occasions. I have created my own blower set up to cool down the barrel. Not only does barrel heat come from the bullet/gases, but in the summer in MT with no shade, you and the barrel are cooking in the sun before any ammo is fired! Of course, I would not use the 17hmr on coyotes or badger unless they are close enough for a headshot, and besides, if I especially wanted to hunt them, I would take the 222. OK, I have bored you, so have fun with either 17 hmr or 17 wsm or both. Guns are like tools. They all have a specific purpose. Use them wisely!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 4 месяца назад
I agree! I love the .17HMR and I'm very fond of bolt action rifles. I thought I'd do a review of the A17WSM because someone out there will love it. Thanks for watching!
@rksando1
@rksando1 3 месяца назад
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I have an hmr and a wsm for prairie dogs. The hmr is much more accurate when the wind is really calm. So I take the hmr on calm days and the wsm on windy days.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 месяца назад
@rksando1 I've always been a fan of the HMR and the price and availability is much better. Thanks for watching!
@BH-kg1wu
@BH-kg1wu Месяц назад
@rksando1 Yes, the wind affects the 17 HMR, but wind affects any bullet if the wind is strong enough. I carry a wind drift chart and aim off the target accordingly, which to me is a lot of fun to figure it out. The only time I can't use the HMR in the wind is when no matter what gun that I would have with me, the wind would move the gun on the tripod so much that I can't stay on target with any gun. I have never shot at a prairie dog off of a bench rest. I have only used a Harris bi-pod or Caldwell tri-pod (now Bog). For me, it's more like real hunting.
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