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Say No to Logitech! Building Your First Sim Racing Rig - Here's Where You Can Cut Corners. 

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Are you thinking about building your first sim racing or sim drifting rig? Putting a sim setup together can be expensive so this video covers where it's worth spending the money and where you can cut corners. Some of the topics discussed include the best beginner wheelbase, whether to play on console or PC, and what kind of screen setup you should use. I've got almost a decade of experience in sim racing with wheels like the Logitech G29 and G920, Thrustmaster T300RS, Fanatec DD1, Simagic Alpha Mini and more. I've also been involved in various motorsports through the years, including transition over from sim drifting to real life.
If you've been on the fence about getting into sim or just need some advice about your setup, this video should help get you pointed in the right direction.
Topics in this video:
0:00 Intro
0:39 System - Console vs PC
1:46 Screen Setup - Screen vs VR
2:46 Wheel Stand - Compact vs Full
3:25 Wheelbase - Logitech vs Thrustmaster
5:16 Accessories - Pedals, Shifters, etc.
6:21 Closing thoughts
My Sim setup - Please note, using these links helps support my channel (Which is very much appreciated. Use code JankyDrift on Apex to get 5% off!) *********************
* Simagic Alpha Mini: www.apexsimracing.com/collect...
* Simagic Quick Release: www.apexsimracing.com/collect...
* GT Omega ART Cockpit: www.gtomega.com/products/art-...
* HP Reverb G2 Headset: Discontinued, recommend the Quest 3...
* Quest 3 VR Headset: amzn.to/3sWVAl3
* NRG 350MM Wheel: amzn.to/45g35RR
* Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter: amzn.to/45k4GpV
* Thrustmaster T-LCM Pedals: amzn.to/45B2JFc
* Generic Handbrake (PC Only): amzn.to/3E3dOTV
* NRG FRP-301 bucket seat: amzn.to/3OJfXsI
* USB Hub: amzn.to/3QKUKRT
* Logitech K400 Keyboard: amzn.to/47WgOyd
* GoPro Hero 10 Black (to record): amzn.to/4a0WxJD
* Thrustmaster T300 (old wheelbase): amzn.to/44cxZcB
* GT Omega Apex Cockpit (old wheelstand): amzn.to/3GnU52n
My Story *********************
In 2022 I purchased a 2007 Nissan 350z to start attending my first drift events, and I've learned quite a bit along the way. The community has been great and I'd very much like to pay it forward and help anyone looking else looking to get into drifting for the first time. Any burning questions as someone wanting to learn how to drift? Send them my way and I'll either respond or cover in a future video.
Helpful Links and Places Where You Can Find me *********************
Find the Janky Discord here:
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Looking for a car pack or track from my videos? Check here:
► docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
I also post content on Instagram:
► / jankydrift
Janky Merch:
► jankydrift.etsy.com
Some of my IRL Gear - Purchases through these links help support my channel (Again, much appreciated) *********************
* 2007 Nissan 350z HR:
* Sparco Sprint Seats: amzn.to/3OAYa7K
* RaceQuip PRO20 Helmet: amzn.to/3Sx4TRn
* NRG 350MM Wheel: amzn.to/45g35RR
* Stage Monroe Wheels: enjukuracing.com/products/sta...
* BC Racing BR Coilovers: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Full Angle Kit: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Diff Brace: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Hydro: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Camber Arms: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* GKTech Toe Arm: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* Koyo Radiator: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* Graffiti Harness Bar: www.enjukuracing.com/products...
* KBD Duckbill: www.enjukuracing.com/products...

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@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift 5 месяцев назад
Watch my latest video on this for a deeper dive into wheelbases - Do I still think you should buy a T300? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CAIdUVooylQ.htmlsi=U-8Z8EF7ztvU8GBS
@DARKBRANDON-2024
@DARKBRANDON-2024 3 месяца назад
Do you have any ps5 wheels for sale? Lol, is that ferrari wheel any good?
@Tolmalion
@Tolmalion 11 месяцев назад
Just a quick tip for those starting on a budget: If you have some old joystick for flying sims lying around just use that as a handbrake. You ofc have to setup axis accordingly but its not difficult and you get lots of extra buttons as a bonus.
@ka-uy8yh
@ka-uy8yh 11 месяцев назад
im getting a wheel in 2 weeks and plan to do this, but is there not a downside to being able to move the joystick from side to side?
@kristianyoung2429
@kristianyoung2429 11 месяцев назад
@@ka-uy8yhyou could probably find a way to lock one of the axis’
@xavierpayne7179
@xavierpayne7179 10 месяцев назад
Can you set up an old joystick like that to do the camera?
@studid55
@studid55 10 месяцев назад
fam, I just read this and I am about to run to my room and get my 2001 joystick xD Thx
@Tolmalion
@Tolmalion 10 месяцев назад
@@xavierpayne7179 Im pretty sure you can. There is a app for AC called Joycam however Ive never tried it myself. But from what Ive seen gamepad might be better for this as it basically emulates controls of a drone.
@talon1706
@talon1706 Год назад
Always owned a Logitech wheel. On a G Pro now. No regrets at all.
@X11CHASE
@X11CHASE Год назад
Your standards need work
@raulhernandez2233
@raulhernandez2233 Год назад
​@Cheby Chvse I disagree LOL but I have yet to drive a DD 😮
@javajoe_gaming9923
@javajoe_gaming9923 Год назад
a man of culture
@Fantastika
@Fantastika Год назад
@@X11CHASE your privilege needs work
@uberrandomperson
@uberrandomperson Год назад
Leaning towards logitech too just because of the fact that logitech has never let me down before either
@beardedretroguy6428
@beardedretroguy6428 Год назад
I bought myself a Logitech G29 and shifter as my first wheel and pedal set and I'm pleased as punch with it. In fact, I also built a Ricmotech RS-1 and bolted everything down. Bolted down wheel for stability, bolted on 6-speed shifter, inverted pedals also bolted on. Actual car seat from a junkyard. It's very nice. I've gotten plenty of compliments on it. Also replaced the brake pedal spring with a newer one like the G923 has. I've been playing PS3 and PC games with it. Gran Turismo 5/6, F1 2010, American Truck Simulator, Forza Horizon 4, and at some point, Assetto Corsa.
@stonyfieldmotorsports
@stonyfieldmotorsports Год назад
Thats great its working for you.ive ow ed two logitech wheels. The g27 and g920 both equally junk but in different ways. If you are driving close to pro levels it will destroy the logitech wheels.. They're a horrible investment considering the price of the moza r5 .
@Oneklickmedia
@Oneklickmedia Год назад
Yea like every thing in life, each of their own. I bought g20 for my son to play his racing games. Huge upgrade from entry PXN V9 😂. Now the more I watch videos, I’m ready to spend $500-$1000 😅. But I let my son play this G20 til he gets a summer job since all his friends use the same wheel. Send me a link of your set up? Debating to build one from a Skyline seat I prob could get for cheap
@cristianadangonzalez628
@cristianadangonzalez628 Год назад
Thanks for share your experience, I have a question, is de g29 and the t300 / t300rs compatible with PS3 slim?
@sonyx5332
@sonyx5332 Год назад
Get the truebrake pedal mod for it. 👌🏼
@beardedretroguy6428
@beardedretroguy6428 Год назад
@@cristianadangonzalez628 I use my G29 on my PS3 Slim model just fine. The only problem with it is that on PS3 it emulates the Logitech Driving Force GT, not the G25/27, so you don't get the clutch pedal and you cannot use the 6-speed H-pattern shifter. That only works on PS4/PS5 and PC, unfortunately. But it's fine. I can paddle-shift my way through F1 2010 and Gran Turismo 5/6.
@SilverNightshade74
@SilverNightshade74 Год назад
This is such a common topic BUT probably the best sim racing startup video I've seen in a long time if not ever. Bloody brilliantly done :)
@NFSNOS
@NFSNOS 11 месяцев назад
Same here mate. I tried the G25 years ago and it felt good but g29 after real car feels like cr&p
@TheBagman1119
@TheBagman1119 7 месяцев назад
I like how this video is straight to the point. No long boring introduction lol. Good job. I'm working on getting a wheel.
@simpletools6805
@simpletools6805 6 месяцев назад
The way you explained the differences between thrustmaster and Logitech in terms of realism is amazing thank you
@MrJokerb0099
@MrJokerb0099 2 месяца назад
Wow!! This is by far THE most straight to the point video i watched about simracing! Every topic about sim race gear is explained in just the right depth. Very well done my man!❤💪👍
@ansesaintlouis5710
@ansesaintlouis5710 Год назад
Cant explain how thankful I am for this series. Liked, subbed, and shared with some pals looking to do the same thing as me. Thank you!
@NuttyTY0
@NuttyTY0 Год назад
Love the wheel stand + playseat combination. Never thought about combining them and turn them into the ultimate “compact sim rig”. Thanks for the tip man!
@bobk4438
@bobk4438 Год назад
I've been using a G920 attached to my computer desk for about three years. I play ACC and F1 2020 and it works well enough for me. It would be fun to have a sim rig but I can't justify the money and space it requires.
@lucasRem-ku6eb
@lucasRem-ku6eb Год назад
This guy need Cockpit crazy shit, they all sell Mario Kart crap He needs mad clickbait scum....
@immrsv
@immrsv 7 месяцев назад
Great pacing, all relevant information and no time wasted. Excellent video!
@bluebird8004
@bluebird8004 Год назад
Thanks mate. Literally trying to decide what set up to invest in for a start. Lots of great info in this vid and well presented with a cool sense of humour. Nice
@hornyducks4090
@hornyducks4090 Год назад
Bought a t80 as my first wheel. Had fun, but I wanted something a little more. I had heard force feedback was the way to go but was a little out of my budget. I bought a cheap thrustmaster tx for $240, and man, it's a blast. The belt makes a little noise, and you can tell it was someone's rig for years, but it still works perfectly. I figured if anything, I bought an overpriced thrustmaster wheel, and I can get a brand new wheelbase eventually. I also learned the importance of a clutch peddle fast.
@lethalyoshie
@lethalyoshie 6 месяцев назад
THANK YOU! Exactly the video I was looking for. All others were for people with not as much pc and car experience. You answered all my questions thanks again.
@zemstaig.
@zemstaig. Месяц назад
your talking speed and directness makes my heart happy
@MapMonster25
@MapMonster25 Год назад
I have been using a Thrustmaster TMX Wheel for the last 3 Years now on PC and Xbox and I can say its great fun for casuals. It's a bit cheaper feeling but the compatibility with other Thrustmaster products works well. I now have the Shifter and better pedals and it's great. The wheel is around 200 now.
@DjGrooveTech
@DjGrooveTech 11 месяцев назад
Awesome quick content that covered many questions I had. Thank you.
@Boat_trash
@Boat_trash 7 месяцев назад
MIDPOND!!!! Awesome to see that the track is on assetto corsa. I’m about to build my first sim setup and your video has helped me leaps and bounds. Maybe I’ll catch you out at Midpond one day!
@rafox66
@rafox66 Год назад
I totally agree with this, I have the logitech g29. And while it is obviously a great upgrade from a controller I am kind disappointed in it, it feels like an expensive kid's toy and I regret not spending a bit more for belt driven. I am happy that it comes with a clutch pedal though because many pedal sets don't, and the good ones with a clutch are quite expensive. I also got the logitech shifter and later on got a fanatec handbrake to make drifting a bit easier.
@Tomica031
@Tomica031 Год назад
My friend couldn't find t300 that I have, and bought g29. It feels like toy compared to t300, difference is really big for the small difference in cost. G29 is okay, you still can drive on it and feel things, but it really lacks power and you can drive it with your fingers, it is that lite, while on the other hand my hands hurt on t300 after 30minutes of driving, and I only use 85% of force. But pedals wise, I found g29 ones to be more intuitive because they are similar feel to todays modern car pedals (which is not something you find in race car), and I had to learn to use t300 ones for quite some time, they are sturdy but have really almost no force back, so at least you can be happy with that
@slavaukraini8061
@slavaukraini8061 11 месяцев назад
​@@Tomica031It is actually difficult to find the T300, especially if you are not living in the USA. In contrast, the G29 is widely available. Furthermore, the G29 features a fantastic shifter(fo its money) that is compatible exclusively with this wheel and is three times cheaper than the shifter from Thrustmaster. I genuinely desire a T300, but purchasing it is not as straightforward.
@Tomica031
@Tomica031 11 месяцев назад
@@slavaukraini8061 yep, like I said, g29 is good starter point and pedals are very good (better than t300 ones you get), if only they put full belt system like t300 and raised price up a bit it would be so perfect
@aliteralwhale
@aliteralwhale 8 месяцев назад
I left a comment elsewhere but look up LUT generator and make one for your wheel. It will make a huge difference in improving the feeling. If you aren’t familiarliar, it’s software that creates a customized force feedback curve for your wheel which you can then use in various racing sims so that the force feedback is much more accurate to what the game intended it to feel like. I cannot overstate how much of a difference it makes, especially the more subtle force feedback effects feel so much better after setting one up. That’s what I did with my Logitech and it’s so much better than what it is stock.
@rafox66
@rafox66 8 месяцев назад
@@aliteralwhale Thanks a lot, not expecting a world of difference but I'll definitely take a look.
@OrangeSunshine15
@OrangeSunshine15 Год назад
I decided to get t300rs but when i went to get one, it was more than double the price of g29. Hence I chose g29. My friend got a t128. We both are noobs and just play for fun together with our friends. Imo, honestly both the wheels are awesome. Just get any force feedback wheel that falls in your budget. For serious sim racing dd is the best i guess.
@Noorzai_
@Noorzai_ Год назад
I have been looking for a video like this for such a long time now! this is exactly the kind of information i needed thx!
@SlaterFPS
@SlaterFPS 10 месяцев назад
this is really informative and well made video, thanks for sharing 🙌
@BlueFlagGarage
@BlueFlagGarage 2 месяца назад
I agree with this so much. I started on a t150 thrustmaster setup on os4 playing gt6 and ACC. It was fun. Got me into the hobyy. But about two month later i ran across a deal on a used t300. It was game one from then on. Im now in a full direct drive fanatec rig on pc
@MacVerick
@MacVerick Месяц назад
Finally a good video that’s not just someone trying to constantly upsale
@lukoka6371
@lukoka6371 Год назад
While i mostly agree, if you want a setup with a shifter the thrustmaster is lot more expensive compared to Logitech. A friend of mine tried both and went with the g29 because he didnt feel much diference.
@polar_inertia
@polar_inertia 10 месяцев назад
your friend might be deficient
@pugachevskobra5636
@pugachevskobra5636 6 месяцев назад
Yep! I've encountered this problem multiple times over the last week browsing racing wheels. I found a new Logitech wheel set with a shifter included for just over $200. Beginners may not want to deal with the complexity of clutches and manual gearboxes but if you wanted to check it out without spending $150 on the shifter alone then Logitech is the best way to go.
@jacques_ev4712
@jacques_ev4712 Год назад
Wonderful video, amazing quality. New sub
@theroyalgoat
@theroyalgoat Год назад
Couldn’t agree more with this video! The T300 is heads above the Logitech G29/G920. Had mine for a week before returning it and buying a T300 😁
@exernal8969
@exernal8969 Год назад
its also heads above in price
@theroyalgoat
@theroyalgoat Год назад
@@exernal8969 Yes it is. But it’s worth either getting the T300 used or save up more money before buying a wheel
@nflisrigged1395
@nflisrigged1395 Год назад
I got TSPC racer love it
@hypnotiq
@hypnotiq Год назад
@@exernal8969 if you can get it on sale, at least in canada its around the same price
@bucktizzy5911
@bucktizzy5911 Год назад
I bought a logitech g923 just to try it out from Best Buy. I’m going to return it and get the thrust master. T300rs thank you
@tyrellmybell
@tyrellmybell Год назад
Omg just keep getting better and better!!!! I love it
@regibson23
@regibson23 9 месяцев назад
Finally someone speaking the truth about Logitech. I had one for 3 hours. Told myself if this is what sim racing was then I wasn't interested. Got a t300 and lo and behold it felt like driving a car and not a box of gears.
@glenben92
@glenben92 11 месяцев назад
YES ive built my rig around one of those ikea chairs! Actually works REALLY well as a driving position as it's fairly reclined. Home built is the way to go if you have the means
@cantstopwontstop4405
@cantstopwontstop4405 Год назад
Bro!! This was very helpful thankyou for the tips man
@FrOiD2100
@FrOiD2100 2 месяца назад
Best video 4 me as someone who know not mutch about simracing and want to start . thanks a lot ;)
@matttactics8275
@matttactics8275 6 месяцев назад
Well you just saved me money. I also have a t300 that I upgraded from a g920. And the difference was huge. Good to know DDs arent as big of a difference.
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 Год назад
I have G27 for almost 10 years. Back then this was premium. :)
@brendonv101
@brendonv101 Год назад
I started on a g27 back when it released in 2010 playing rFactor drifting online (sorta) with mates via a vpn and some trickery to appear as a local network... anyway I used that bolted to my table right up until about 2016 when I figured I should invest something into my hobby. I got a GT Omega frame which set off a wild change of events for even better immersion. I then got a full Fanatec setup and vr which led into a full Trak Racer extrusion rig. It's an expensive hobby. XD Great video.
@SomKing123
@SomKing123 Месяц назад
Logitech us best for beginners with low budget. I have my G29 almost since release, no issues at all, still works great. I'm saving money now for G Pro or Moza setup.
@joshuakoter500
@joshuakoter500 3 месяца назад
I got a logitech wheel and I avoid using it because of the gear system, looking for an upgrade but nothing crazy expensive. I think you're spot on about the T300RS and will be picking one up shortly!
@MrBICKUS9
@MrBICKUS9 2 месяца назад
Check out the cammus c5. Cheapest direct drive on tbe market, youd be insane to pick anything else over that
@NoLoveinHell
@NoLoveinHell 11 месяцев назад
Great video truly ahead of the curve
@RaphaelGosling
@RaphaelGosling 8 месяцев назад
hahahaha great video!! Awesome and complete content, well presented and good humor! Congrats
@sharkbait9462
@sharkbait9462 Год назад
Lmao I just bought a g29. I completely agree that you have to do a lot yourself but it is cool drifting around. I'm also not old enough to drive so I wouldn't know what its like. Great video though!
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Eh, at the end of the day any wheel is better than no wheel. Appreciate it!
@ferminiturbide4390
@ferminiturbide4390 Год назад
BRUH…..nicely done dude and thanks for the info…..I’m looking at set ups and was eyeing the Logitech g920-whatever but didn’t feel right, now I know why.
@vaporiiz
@vaporiiz 10 месяцев назад
Super useful video. Thank you, you earned a sub
@damianking2065
@damianking2065 6 месяцев назад
Finally. Advice from someone seemingly genuine. Thanks mate
@javajoe_gaming9923
@javajoe_gaming9923 Год назад
started with a 923 and shifter, it was a great decision. The price point also didnt scare my friends away from jumping in the game with me, i currently have a logitech g pro direct drive, you cant find a negative review about it online, logitech still hasnt let me down, however if money isnt a issue of course theres other options, but even with logitech only having 1 wheel ATM you know more are coming
@Ssidistik
@Ssidistik 8 месяцев назад
People always forget this one. The upgrades they did from the G29 and G920 are great. Small amount of haptics on the wheel itself makes the audio of the vehicles rumble your experience even better. Also the pedal upgrade, so much more realistic until you get a pedal set with loadcells. Best starter pedals IMO. I used the G923 for a solid year with no complaints BUT the noise when racing offroad.
@heinous70
@heinous70 3 месяца назад
I was anticipating the release of the G29. After almost 10 years with no problem, I'm about to hand it over to my grandson and upgrade. It's important to remember that Logitech is a computer peripheral company that's been around for decades. Not to mention, one of the first companies to make high-quality aftermarket peripherals for PlayStation (PS1.) The rest of these companies only make one thing. They go about business entirely different. If you're just getting into it and need to keep price down, Logitech should be at the top of your list. Especially for reliability and ease of use. The Logitech and play seat upgrades are on the way, and I'm looking forward to not spending a dime on it for another 10 years. Don't take sim advice from a guy with a folding rig
@TheJam53ice
@TheJam53ice 6 месяцев назад
Great video, I have a baisc rig set up, with a Logic wheel mounted to a basic desk, but I use VR, I find especially with drifting that I drive a lot harder than using the screen.
@Kingzies
@Kingzies Год назад
Thank you for this this is actually really helpful
@oihdnuoc679
@oihdnuoc679 5 месяцев назад
This is a very usefull video, thanks for making it
@samvortex2802
@samvortex2802 6 месяцев назад
Upgraded my PC from a 3080 to a 4090, as well as every other part recently. This made me want to try sim racing as modern racing games look incredible at maxed out graphics, and I went for a Fanatec CSL DD + F1 wheel + CSL Elite V2 Pedals, for cockpit a Playseat trophy (no space for a playseat F1 ultimate) and a G9 Neo 49", and sometimes using my Quest 3 for VR. Well worth the money, I highly recommend spending more if possible. Between playing on my setup and my friends, who uses a g29 clamped to his desk, its light and day. He comes over a lot more often now to "hang out" meanwhile he just sits and races all day. Anyways good vid.
@MrRj600rr
@MrRj600rr 6 месяцев назад
Most informative and funny video. Thank you!!
@Poxxers
@Poxxers 8 месяцев назад
Fantastic video! Following this to a T
@stvticsteve7249
@stvticsteve7249 22 дня назад
I’ve rocked a g920 for 3 years and have no complaints
@FF-uu4uf
@FF-uu4uf 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for a concise, informative presentation. Your real world driving experience adds valuable credibility to your opinions.
@WithDennisK
@WithDennisK 8 месяцев назад
Nice comparison/tips and here I am just subbed to this guys because of his jokes.
@eatsleepdie8808
@eatsleepdie8808 Год назад
Okay you got me with that paid ad, gotta love an honest beggar haha. Earned a sub
@GhostWriter_Music
@GhostWriter_Music 23 часа назад
Used a Logitech g920 wheel for a long time now. Tried learning to drift and couldn’t do it. Spent weeks at a time learning, then going away and coming back again with same result. Then I got a direct drive wheel yesterday and within half hour of trying to drift once I got use to the wheel, I was doing donuts more consistently, gaining back control at corners more consistently and actually drifting without spinning out. Sure I still spin out. But it feels like I actually started to get it. And looking forward to using it more on days off to learn. Also my lap time has improved slightly on the brands hatch course. But I think that’s because the feedback is faster to feel, and more responsive.
@stevesmith6159
@stevesmith6159 7 месяцев назад
excellent video on sim setup
@RedPanda_______
@RedPanda_______ 12 дней назад
Great video!
@francisdoucette3902
@francisdoucette3902 Год назад
great video for beginner bro good job
@defxed
@defxed 8 месяцев назад
Number 1 thing I recommend to anyone who's getting into sim racing or have been in it for awhile. Transducers for chair, it adds engine, road, and tire feel in the chair, it's an absolute MUST have.
@garetbott4669
@garetbott4669 11 месяцев назад
This is the most helpful video I've seen, what is the name of your cockpit... it is PERFECT for what I need.
@Magic0165
@Magic0165 Год назад
Going from the T300 RS to the fanatec DDpro 8nm with load cells= massive difference. And now Gt7 in vr 👌. Excellent. I don't play ACC anymore. I think the DD pro even on console is a lot better compared to using the T300 RS on pc. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong. Dirt 2.0 and wrc generations. Amazing. F1 2022...very good with the DD pro and mclaren open wheel. It's still som cade, I know. Gt7 compared to ACC had a lot more to offer. Sim cade or not. And gt7 now on psvr2. Was my best racing experience ever. The interiors in vr are insane. Not one game has that.
@AliceinWonderlands
@AliceinWonderlands 2 месяца назад
No one cares if sim cade or not, the fun you having is what matters. Enjoy it the way u wanna
@Magic0165
@Magic0165 2 месяца назад
@@AliceinWonderlands indeed. This sim cade vs real sim debate is so funny.
@billyum4302
@billyum4302 Год назад
I second everything you said in the video lol. I'm currently running a logitech g920 +shifter +keyboard ebrake that I've modded into feeling more """realistic""", such as increased brake and clutch resistors, resistor bands in the shifter and, after snapping the gear on my first g920, upgradging to a more sturdy gearset. What I can tell people wanting to start off is to NOT BUY LOGITECH. It is almost a guarantee that you will run into issues with your setup and teach yourself bad habits along the way to compensate. To compound those issues, unless you're really tech savvy or know what a drift car is actually supposed to feel like then you likely won't even know that you're teaching yourself bad habits along the way. On top of that, logitech software is notorious for bugging out and im currently experiencing centering issues with my logitech even after a complete PC/hardware wipe and LUT mapping my wheel. All in all, seat time is king, even on a sim, but sub-par seat time isn't doing you any favors.
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Lol I'm impressed with the level of effort you went through to make the logitech decent. Let your story be a cautionary tale.
@billyum4302
@billyum4302 Год назад
@@JankyDrift you can polish a turd, but at the end of the day it's still a turd lol.
@AdventureChalet
@AdventureChalet Год назад
Great video! Appreciate the advice. I went with the full budget build route to save money for my real e36 lol. Hoping it translates to the real thing well enough. A little concerned that I’ll have to upgrade if it starts to reinforce bad habits tho.
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Yeah I get that lol. Been looking at upgrading my pedals but at the same time trying to get some seats for the Z. Assuming you're talking logitech, def play around with whatever LUT updates people recommend. Not to say you can't transition from logi, but I can definitely see it being easier from Thrustmaster.
@CharlieKellyEsq
@CharlieKellyEsq Год назад
I used to race modded clunkers at an old dirt track when I was a kid, then I got married, had kids and life kind of got in the way of my favorite past time. Kids are teenagers, I'm out of the army, so I'm ready to get back into this without the risk of dying in a car fire. Thank you so much.
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Definitely feel you on getting less daring as i get older. Check out the game wreck fest if you haven't already, don't think the physics are as realistic but might be up your alley.
@itranscendencei7964
@itranscendencei7964 Год назад
Hands down the best, no nonsense, video for people looking to get into sim drifting. Good stuff.
@onlyVetements
@onlyVetements 9 месяцев назад
amazing video thank you bro
@Redslayer86
@Redslayer86 6 месяцев назад
I have gotten multiple friends into sim racing with the logitech, its a great starter wheel for someone unsure if they actually want to sim race.
@drakliveplays
@drakliveplays Год назад
I will upgrade my PC this year and I will focus on building my first SIM RACING RIG next year. It is always my dream to have a SIM RACING RIG at home since I was a kid.
@obviously122
@obviously122 Год назад
Due to low budget i got myself a thurstmaster t248, which is both, gear and belt driven. With small diameter wheel it feels toyish but it's quite hard to change it. As entry level i think it's acceptable because it has simmilar price to Logitech but has got the belt
@christophervincent77
@christophervincent77 2 месяца назад
Great advice! I followed exactly none of it. I decided to go with the G920 on Xbox in front of my TV using a home built stand I made out of scrap 2x4's and plywood... cost next to nothing and it's super fun :)
@lucid2992
@lucid2992 Год назад
A year ago i got the chance of getting a Thrustmaster TGT with a playseat alcantara for 650 euros, then i bought the SSH shifter new with the side plate for the playseat then a Rift s headset second hand and then i ordered a 16 bit hall sensor handbrake new, overall i'm so happy with my setup, racing GT cars is allot of fun and drifting is even more fun, only part is i'm more towards drifting and my friends are more towards GT racing, overall budget was 1100 and my pockets are still burning, great video whould recommend it to everyone who's thinking on buying a wheel. BTW maby a bit random but if anyone is down to drift at any point pls let me know, i'm down for anycars even vdc
@smasherrr07
@smasherrr07 7 месяцев назад
Thanks this helps alot
@zaym3765
@zaym3765 Год назад
Love the channel man, I’ve been sim racing/drifting for a few years and have really been looking into buying another 350z to drift, and you showing your experiences/progress makes it a lot less intimidating. Also what do you do for practicing tandems? not to be mean but alot of people in some of the popular servers are still learning lol. Just wondering if maybe there’s more serious servers, or maybe discord groups. Figured I’d ask. Love the content!
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Awesome to hear, honestly my main goal for the channel is to make it less intimidating and get other folks to make the jump. I'm sure there are some more serious servers out there but I just join whatever and drift around a bit until you spot the few folks on the server who look decent, then start snugging up. This is very much how real life tandems have been in my experience as well, spotting for the people closest to your skill/car level who look consistent enough to avoid wrecking your car. Then approach and ask if they'd be up for tandems. Then inevitably some body smacks into you from behind and wrecks the whole train lol.
@DJ_An_Dee
@DJ_An_Dee 10 месяцев назад
Totally true. I started with the G25, switched to the G27 and then made it to Thrustmaster. (T150, then T300) The FFB is much better than Logitech's. The T300 is probably the best way to start simracing, if you are on a budget. I changed the fan to a noctua fan, since the stock one is too loud. If possible, I would go with a Direct Drive Wheel. It was a game changer for me when I switched to the Moza R16 and their GS wheel. I also own the CS Wheel and bought an aftermarket wheel to have it even bigger. If you get your hands on a cheap Logitech and you are starting simracing, it is totally fine, but probably want a little more after maybe a year.
@darekdymek00
@darekdymek00 13 дней назад
I got brand new g923 for 170$ and it was the best purchase i've ever made. I got myself logitech shifter and 3d printed hall-sensor handbrake. I fit within 230$ for everything and it works well, but I might upgrade in the future
@TheJobbbbbbb
@TheJobbbbbbb Год назад
you have the same music with the guys over at missedapex podcast! took me a while to figure out. both you guys occupy the racing scene so I guess also have similar taste in music? Moved from a g29 to a tspc. but the shift from potentiometer to Thrustmaster's TS-PC definitely was the bigger upgrade. Good stuff!
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Lol its one of the few free metal songs you can get from the RU-vid library without them hitting you with copyright claims. Similar taste in music, probably, but just as much having limited choices. 😭
@Cerberus9c
@Cerberus9c Год назад
The someone standing behind you VR thing had me dying. Anytime I hear a noise I get a little paranoid when I'm racing in VR. I had a stink bug hit me the other day and ripped off my headset so fast.
@andrechen6892
@andrechen6892 5 месяцев назад
I had a g29, now a logitech pro, and I love it super easy to set up and has a good feel to it. I also had a fanatic dd2 before the logitech Pro, and I hated it. I'm not in the 90s anymore to spend hours or days to set up drivers and firmware.
@zacharyscott6436
@zacharyscott6436 2 месяца назад
I just got my g29 and I’m in love with it never have a problem other than I don’t have a good place to mount it so I Jerry rigged it and still one of the best wheels I’ve owned
@stevebuscemi3622
@stevebuscemi3622 Год назад
Nice Z, I have a DE with alot of money dumped in it. Will def go with fanatec DD pro for my first rig.
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Appreciate it. Was never a fan of the 350z back in the day but this car has def won me over.
@tanshobbies3576
@tanshobbies3576 6 месяцев назад
I mainly use my g920 for American truck simulator so I’m happy with it plus got it for under 200 new so was a good price point
@zanychelly
@zanychelly 6 месяцев назад
Nice video. I few years back I got the T-150. I don’t recommend it, some times the wheel doesn’t give any feedback of what the car is doing
@RafaelBaptistaCarneiro
@RafaelBaptistaCarneiro Месяц назад
Zero regrets on g27 and then g923. It's a pretty good start.
@skidmarkzuckerberg
@skidmarkzuckerberg 6 месяцев назад
Playseat with a Logitech G29 is perfect for me, someone who is casual and maybe races 6-8 hours a week. If you’re really into sim racing, get a DD wheel. But for someone who doesn’t have the time to dedicate to racing all week - I think my < $500 setup is perfect and money well spent. I just couldn’t commit to spending more than $500 for a setup I will use 2-3 times a week max. I feel pretty competitive with my G29 - not top tier but fast enough to compete and have fun.
@DCS_World
@DCS_World 7 месяцев назад
Always feel like someone is behind you🤣😅...Relatable, I have a 100lb shepherd 07's Subscribed
@SimRacingVeteran
@SimRacingVeteran Год назад
It’s more expensive but I’m of the camp of buying stuff that you won’t replace in the future. Investing in a strong rig right from the go is the way to go. So in the future when you upgrade to a direct drive you know your rig will be able to handle it. I also recommend going straight to a load cell brake pedal. Sure spring loaded potentiometer pedals will get you started but you’re going to be giving lap time up.
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
I don't disagree if you've got the cash to burn and know you're going to stick with it. But at the same time FB marketplace is generally littered with setups that people thought they were going to stick with and didn't. I still say if this is your first foray there's nothing wrong with a beginner setup to test the waters. You'd also be amazed at how many people I get arguing for bottom of the line logitech gear being good enough.
@javianbrown8627
@javianbrown8627 Год назад
That depends on your situation. If you're not sure you're going to really get into the hobby you don't want to shell out a bunch of cash on something you may seldom use as using lower-end things can be great for getting your foot through the door as someone who doesn't have a lot of expendable cash. Being cheaper also means you can get something faster if it requires time to save. As a result, it can be worth it in terms of getting your hand on something that much sooner as and you can still save for the higher-end thing or you might even just get comfortable with what you already purchased (resulting in you not needing to upgrade) as bear in mind these things have severe diminishing returns in some cases. It's a similar logic to hire purchase where you pay more in the long run but you get your hand on the thing you want that much faster, you just have to consider your situation and find out what works best as there is no one-size fits all solution; bear in mind the cost and time differs by region in some cases. Not only does your job determine your income but also what country you do it in
@sirunclerico6772
@sirunclerico6772 Год назад
When I first got into sim racing about 7 years ago and moved from controller to a non-FFB thrustmaster 458 italia wheel and pedal set which had bungee strap of the force to center the wheel. After a year or so on that, I upgraded to the T300RS pack with the t3pa pedals. Anyone looking into reviews comparing the Logitech and T300 options will undoubtedly come across reviews saying the T300 overheats etc. and that logitech is better - WRONG! I live in a region where summer temps reach over 40c and the T300 as my daily driver has never failed me once, not even a hint of FFB fade. The unit is solid, the stock wheel in-hand feels good. Logitech spend the FFB motor bugdet on the leather wheel wrap and left the buyer to experience ancient gear FFB. In a nutshell, I have been using Thrustmaster wheels and pedals for almost 10 years and not a single mechanical failure with daily use. Of course dont set your FFB to 100% in the software but rather in the game being played and you will have a long time friend steering you in the right direction day in and day out.
@lucasRem-ku6eb
@lucasRem-ku6eb Год назад
Hahah, you bought cheap Mario Kart wheels, Logitech has good wheels too Why buy crap ?
@damarlo1
@damarlo1 Год назад
😂 for a oem g series i agree. But if your on a budget, you can easily mod a g series wheel to be better than almost anything out there. I perfer my 2 of my g29s, over my t300, my csl elite, only 2 wheel bases that are better is simucube and monza. Granted monza is just pretty decent for the price range. The g29 can easily be converted to a belt drive system, or a direct drive system if you know what your doing. But you really dont need all that unluss sound is a major issue for you. The "slop" in the gear system is easily fixed by swapping out the rack n pinon setup. Want more tq, just increase the tooth count on the gears in the 2 motors, which can also be upgraded. On my gear driven g29 im pushing 18.4nm tq. So needless to say i really need to turn ffb down in alot of games. Theres zero slop in the wheel, and with a pull of a pin i go from 900° to 1080° for trucking games. Besides the cost of the base itself, im only $138 into mods on the gear driven one. Were as belt driven mod can be had for $76 or dd conversion at $215. But in all honesty the gear driven setup feels alot better to me, so its my go to wheel. My t300, csl elite, simucube aplha, and monza are all just crammed in the closet for now.
@marksutherlandjr.2121
@marksutherlandjr.2121 Год назад
PC setup here, First timer. That picture of you lol, that's me (minus the headset) G29 too lol, regardless of the title as well, idk if anything honestly could make me better. Ive realized just how COMPLETE SHIT I am at SIM.. This is going to be a LOOOONG Journey!
@leonard.saenger
@leonard.saenger 7 месяцев назад
The Fanatec CSL DD is available in a bundle for around 400 bucks. And it’s direct drive!
@sliestfox
@sliestfox 9 месяцев назад
actually looking into this hobby recently. always amazes me in every facet of a hobby how deep shit goes and how deep you allow yourself to get into them. this by far is a really cool hobby and cant wait to join this "friendly" community from what ive seen??? looking for a budget T300 lol are there no other options like lower ver. of a thrustmaster > Logitech? thanks for the content you produce!
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift 9 месяцев назад
Like any community sim racing/drifting has some elitist type folks in terms of gear, games, etc., but overall yeah it's a really good community. Not a ton of options below the T300 or logitech G29 unfortunately. Used is the way to go if you have the option.
@omniscient420
@omniscient420 8 месяцев назад
If you haven't bought anything yet, Moza is coming out with an R3 bundle very soon that's PC and Xbox DD for $399. I'm in the same boat, my wheel stand arrives today and I'm waiting on the above wheel to be released.
@Real_F2
@Real_F2 7 месяцев назад
@@omniscient420I’m trying to get a DD wheel but am a bit conflicted on what I should get… moza or fanatec? My budget is up to 1k… I was first looking at the t300 Ferrari alcantara but I’m not sure
@omniscient420
@omniscient420 7 месяцев назад
​@@Real_F2it depends on what platforms you're going to use it on. I'm going with Moza for Xbox/PC. Fanatec has a larger ecosystem with lots to choose from. Moza is still new so who knows how they will grow. I'm fairly casual right now.
@AxleVest
@AxleVest 7 месяцев назад
When I went from a G27 -> TS-PC immediately the thing I noticed wasn't so much the extra force but the way in which I could now recover from a somewhat sharp snap. On the G27 a sudden snap would lead to a seesaw motion eventually leading to a spin, this being due to the wheel not keeping up with the wheels on the car in game. Overall I'd say a better stronger wheel leads to much better consistency and a far better idea of what the car is doing
@nxtz9410
@nxtz9410 7 месяцев назад
TS-PC is the wheelbase from thrustmaster right?
@Dieterbe
@Dieterbe Год назад
Would love to see an update on this video taking into account the GT7 physics patches (more realistic !), the Logitech G Pro wheel (direct drive!) and PS VR2. Thanks for your video !
@JankyDrift
@JankyDrift Год назад
Would love to but I'm just a regular dude with a full time job lol so finding the time and money to dig into all these different setups is a little difficult at the moment. Maybe once the channel takes off (fingers crossed).
@Dieterbe
@Dieterbe Год назад
@@JankyDrift fair enough. Cheers 🍻
@datgroovy
@datgroovy 11 месяцев назад
@@JankyDrift Buy it, review it, return it for refund 😂Amazon is very customer friendly about returns.
@xameleon4842
@xameleon4842 Год назад
I have been using a rental G29 with a Playseat Challenge for several weeks. Frankly speaking, the force feedback was so lost in the chair flex, wheel flex, gearing play, that in the end i found it completely useless as a tool that should communicate car&track information to me as a driver. It felt like the only things the "feedback" did was resist rotation and occasionally push my hands. All ridiculously grainy and happening with a micro delay. I'd say using a PS5 gamepad with tilt-to-steer controls in GT7 was more effective and convenient for me after adjusting, with the only downside that it is not fixed in one place and does not allow for 900 degree rotation. On the bright side, the gamepad has nice adaptive triggers which allowed to feel some sense of grip when braking and accelerating, compared to basic G29 pedals.
@paulkemp3948
@paulkemp3948 Год назад
I've played on the tmx for 3 years and decided I should upgrade, moved on to the tsxw, open wheel and tlcm, night and day improvement.
@mia92baer
@mia92baer 9 месяцев назад
Hi there. Im thinking of upgrading from my tmx to a tx or tsxw. Do you still feel the little stops and gears like when youre turning the wheel? I feel like when i use tmx i can feel im rotating some sort of gears and it is not 100% smooth
@raithrover1976
@raithrover1976 Год назад
Big downside of Logitech for me is that their software/drivers seem to be glitchy and bug ridden. The anti-overheat circuitry kept activating even when the wheel was cold meaning that i regularly lost my ffb gain in the middle of races. Also, the wheel rotation kept resetting to 900 degrees which isn't much use when you're trying to find an F1 car and need something around 360 degrees. Since upgrading to a Fanatec CSL Elite a few years ago I've had no issues other than a couple of minor driver issues that were easily rectified by reinstalling an earlier version.
@kapee1687
@kapee1687 11 месяцев назад
A bit late but I can't stress enough how good of an advice this is! I bought G29 as my first wheel and it lfet me very disappointed. I sold it very quickly and got T300 instead and I couldn't have been happier. For the difference in price it is well worth it. I hated the grindy feeling of the G29 wheel, the loudness it made and hard ability to drift at all.
@Manning0151
@Manning0151 4 месяца назад
So you couldn’t drift, and decided to blame the wheel instead of your own lack of ability? Makes sense😂😂😂
@kapee1687
@kapee1687 4 месяца назад
@@Manning0151 yeah, kinda, don't have an rwd, so I had to learn drifting on wheel, and on G29 it was hard and unrealistic. went to T300 and now I have at least some capability. anything else you want to mock me on?
@CELL7GAMING
@CELL7GAMING Год назад
great video.
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