@@JuriSins yesss a route that shows Nicole could give f*ck all about others and relishing in complete power to abuse another while also using others to her advantage totally means she’s a mean lesbian‼️
Ik, Nicole is seriously the most evilest female character ever, girl really said instead of breaking up with her, she rather emotionally abuses her own girlfriend instead to the point Ari rather date a guy instead like lmfaooo why do that to the poor girl 😭😭😭
I dunno Emily with no meds is Pretty fucking psychotic. The voices in her head even seem to be trying dissuade her from her ending and she ignores them.
@@star_jams4nekos Is there a difference between being a socio path and having anti-social personality disorder? Also, which bible story are you talking about?
@@Sewblon it is lesbian even if they didnt choose to have sex. the relationship is a play by play (though exaggerated) of how toxic lesbian relationships arise between two gay girls who don't understand their feelings or deny their gayness. as someone who has been in many and knows of many others' experiences. it seems clear to me that they have crushes on each other, but beyond that their relationship patterns and style of codependency portrays a lesbian experience.
it’s because even despite them enabling & worsening each other, they still had mutual admiration for one & other; emily’s admiration being expressed more outwardly (complimenting/hitting on nicole, telling nicole that she’d rip her mom’s heart out if she keeps insulting her LMAO) & nicole’s monologue in that route’s ending. whereas nicole/ari’s relationship... never had that same kinda dynamic. ari was too fixated on the “idea” of nicole & not the person that is nicole, leading her to romanticise & rationalise every shitty thing nicole did. & it’s safe to say that nicole really just, didn’t click with ari the way she could click with emily, or even jecka! in other words, emily & nicole matched each other’s freak. sorry for geeking out here i just find the dynamics between nicole & the other girls really interesting @_@
Nicolle is definitely gay. I think that Jecka is also into girls. The only reason that Jecka doesn't want to be sexed up abusive lesbians with Nicolle is that Nicolle would do all of the abusing. If Jecka got to be the abuser, she would be all in for an abusive lesbian relationship. Edit: Also, Jecka likes making out with girls at the pride parade. So when she agrees that being straight sucks, I have to ask, how does she know?
@@laurelalloro Indeed, the abusive lesbian hierarchy is cannon. The only question is: Who is at the top? Edit: I think that Emily is at the top, because she is the only one who can boss around Nicolle. See the suicide pact for evidence.
I remember in the first game when she and jecka had a mini argument over their friendship, nicole was like "God I wish I was a lesbian" though i dont think she has to wish for it
Here’s are a few more: *•* The lesbian route, she finds Ari talking about cutting hot *•* In the route where Nicole rejects Ari, she asks Jecka to show her the naked pictures Ari took of herself that Nicole told Ari to text to all the girls in school *•* Before we get the choice between the Emily route and the route where you get Miss Ames fired, we have this exchange (which I think was the moment where Nicole made Emily, as Emily said in the text message you get after her route, gay for her): *Emily:* Yeah, so you wanna go with me? *Nicole:* Why can't you just go yourself? *Emily:* I'm not gonna skip alone. That's like a step above reading at lunch alone. *Nicole:* Just ask some other psycho remedial kid. *Emily:* No they're all shitty, I wanna go with someone cool. *Nicole:* Are you hitting on me? *Emily:* Wha- No! I got a boyfriend. *Nicole:* But do you actually love him? *Emily:* Yeah… No… *•* And a couple of her lines with Principal Lynn: _(When you choose skip in school, hide in photo lab, give Karen an eating disorder and skip in school again)_ *Principal Lynn:* I’ll walk with you. *Nicole:* Nah that’s okay, you don’t have to. *Principal Lynn:* I insist. *Nicole:* Wow, you’re gonna ask me out after? *Principal Lynn:* On a date? Why would I do that? *Nicole:* Wait you’re not a guy teacher, sorry let’s go. _(During the crack dealer route)_ *Principal Lynn:* We operate under the honor system, but don’t think I won’t keep my eye on you. *Nicole:* Oh I’m wet. *Principal Lynn:* What was that? *Nicole:* Nothing… *Principal Lynn:* Look me in the eye and say that. *Nicole:* What’re you my dom? *Principal Lynn:* Is there something you’d like to tell me, Nicole?
I FORGOT ABOUT THE ONES AT THE END WITH PRINCIPAL LYNN, why is Nicole like this? I love her I love her so much she's just like me fr but why is she like this
Fun Fact: Emily was actually "really fucking gay" for Nicole. In the messages at the end of the game she says that shes sorry for lying to her in the hallway and when they got changed and went to bed. Emily also said that if Nicole passed out first she would fall on Nicole to look like they were cuddling
She didn’t like Ari at all, once she found out Ari would still stay with her even when she was a bitch she stopped pretending to like her and used her for personal gain, like having Ari always pay for food, and in the text Nicole sends Ari she says she only misses her for the sex, and in the different route where you say no to Ari Nicole still ends up dating her ONLY so she doesn’t get blamed for Ari’s house getting burned down
@@Inkdoesntlikeyou I meant like gender-wise, of course Nicole doesnt give a damn about anyone’s health, she’s like to that everyone (with a few exceptions) but yeah,Nicoleism all the way 🙏
She was very explicitly into Ari. Afte she's dumped, in the next scene, we learn that after that happened, Nicole either cut herself really badly or attempted to commit suicide (forget which). I think she's just very emotionally repressed
Here's my stupid dipshit analysis of something I'm taking way too seriously, but whatever. Nicole isn't a sociopath. Sociopaths don't often know they're sociopaths. They don't typically self-identify it as easily as Nicole did, especially without any form of professional help. Furthermore, sociopathy isn't actually a diagnosable condition. What we're really talking about here is antisocial personality disorder, which can't be diagnosed in anyone under 18, which Nicole is. So really we'd be looking at conduct disorder with her. And she does absolutely show several signs that could get her diagnosed. The thing is, from my honest reading of the material, I think it's all a facade. She's too self-aware most of the time. She does sincerely hate men because of how they treat her. She's too aware of their bullshit, and she feels limited remorse manipulating and hurting them, specifically because of how much they do the same to her without remorse. But when she does the same to women, especially those who are her peers and not in positions of authority, it's the only time we see even hints of remorse in her. Nicole is a fucked up kid. A lot of shitty things have happened to her. When she gets a taste of power over Ari, she realizes how much she likes it and she leans into it. But when Jecka confronts her on it, she gets incredibly defensive. Why bother getting defensive if she didn't think there was any merit to Jecka's points? And look at how she interacts with Emily. She's completely knocked off guard when someone interacts with her genuinely and without a desire for something out of her. She's jaded as fuck and has built up these walls to protect herself. More likely than anything, she has PTSD from literally seeing her father kill himself and blame it on her. She said she used to be relatively normal prior to that, and I bet that's true. Honestly, I think the idea of Nicole being a traumatized girl who has built up this shield of sociopathy to protect herself from a world that wants to sexualize and abuse her is a lot more thematically interesting than her just straight up being a sociopath. Regardless of whether that was the intention, I think it's a valid reading of her character, and I think the added nuance and complexity make the whole thing more tragic in a sense.
I feel like intense trauma and ptsd could cause someone to develop a personality disorder like aspd, i mean subconsciously lowering your own empathy for others in order to not get hurt is a pretty realistic response.
@@MarinaLover That tends not to be the case. Typically, ASPD stems from trauma early in life, not later. And people with ASPD aren’t typically anywhere near as aware of it as she is. But that’s the real world, things are always different in media
"specifically because of how much they do the same to her without remorse. " tbf, Nicolle will manipulate and hurt men regardless of whether they do anything to her or not, at least in some routes, like the Kyler attempted suicide route and the school route shooter . "And look at how she interacts with Emily. She's completely knocked off guard when someone interacts with her genuinely and without a desire for something out of her." Jecka doesn't want anything out of Nicolle as far as we know, and she didn't knock Nicolle of guard. More importantly, Emily did want something out of Nicolle. She wanted someone to do a suicide pact with. Also, Nicolle was not off-guard with Emily, at least not completely. Nicolle did cut her pills with Flintstone's vitamins to avoid dying and surreptitiously get out of the suicide pact. "She said she used to be relatively normal prior to that, and I bet that's true." I don't. Her mom says that Nicolle has a history of making false accusations of sexual assault since she was 12, and Nicolle didn't refute that. So, I don't think that her anti-social behavior started with her dad's suicide.
omg you just wrote out all my thoughts on her. she's such an interesting character especially from a parody game as over the top as this. its why i could never agree 100% on the whole "nicole is so evil" popular opinion.
1:30 We know from the text that Emily actually is attracted to Nicolle. So I don't think that her complimenting Nicolle is different from a guy complementing Nicolle.
@@evelynrichards1696 Except for the cop, and maybe the jock. I think that the jock only tries to give you drugs if you don't pursue him. Edit: and Mr. White. He is more interested in spreading white nationalism and killing non-whites than in sex.
The difference is emily actually means what she says and is genuinely complimenting nicolle while a lot of the guy characters just say it to try and bribe sex from her
Just a reminder that while the characters in this game are greatly entertaining ( I admit), none of them are meant to be icons. The main crew are narcissists, Emily and Nicole aren't supposed to be relatable. If you do find them relatable, at least in a positive way, I'd advise counseling.
yeah seeing people relate to them is actually disturbing because they’re meant to be the kinds of characters you mock to find funny. like you shouldn’t idolize a manipulative sociopath who dates a codependent gay teenage girl just to abuse her
@@elephorofonius Its literally white people boondocks, if a black person said they identified with any of the characters in that, that would also not be a good thing lol.
I would say that I am glad that I am not the only one who feels that way. But it seems like every other trans woman who is online feels that way. So are you also transgender? I want to know if cis women are immune to being called "good girl."
Nicole just like being in control, and usually guys around her don't make her feel that way because they just want to bang her without even trying to understand her feeling. The only reason she enjoyed being with airi is because ari would basically do literally everything she wants without questionning her authority and ari got so feed up with nicole that it made her think that all girls are sociopath like Nicole when it comes to love to the point she started dating a boy rather than trying to look for another girl. When she talked to jecka about the only guy that made her feel in control(that time when stole emily boyfriend out of spit), jecka told her she s basically saying what a rapist would say.
Nicolle does like feeling in control. But if that was all there was to her sexuality, she would have stuck with Kyler. She got him to attempt suicide. Nicolle was totally in control in that relationship. After that she can terrify Jeffery into doing all of her school work for her. She could be in complete control of Jeffery if she really wanted it. The men wanting to bang her is only an obstacle to her being in control if she decides to be nice to them.
lesbians having aspd isn't weird. u can find videos of someone describing their disorder & some of the women r lesbians not all but kinda seems more than average. it will make sense on the levels of being particularly disinterested in men (while hounding them as badly) but also genuinely being gynephilic which is essentially a masculine trait. not like onto their brain here or being 'masculinized' but there's a serious disconnect between antisocial or even really dominant traits & societal gender roles for women they might as well not be straight if that makes sense ??
i follow an account where there's kind of a side of like destigmatising cluster b personality disorders autism & adhd cos they aren't really treated equally and but also making memes like every day she's hilarious lol. so adhd & aspd and pretty bi
@@Sewblon She wants unquestionnable loyalty while being entertained. When you see her take a liking to someone, its usually because for her own twisted desires. Making guys kill/humiliate themselves is part of that. She does have some minor moral like how she hate racism but otherwise no one try to understand her properly. Jecka is really one hell of an exception and nicole even said she wouldn't mind starting a lesbian relationship with her. The only reason jecka said no is because she knew nicole would only be happy if she get all abusive on jecka.
Am I the only one who thinks it’s so cool that Nicole’s voice actor is the same voice actor as Uzi from murder drones, gloink queen from tadc, singing Charlie from hazbin hotel, mommy long legs from poppy playtime, spooky month, meta runner, and sunset paradise? When I heard her voice, I immediately thought of how much I liked it and recognized it and how much it reminded me of a combo of Lizzie and Uzi. Like when I saw Elsie lovelock in the trailer, I freaked out!
I get the feeling Nicole was traumatized from so many horrible experiences with men at a far too young age, and she can't be attracted to them as a result.
@@GoldRetriever interesting for me it's both the good girl and the "don't make me ask again".. i'm going to fall directly into an abusive relationship the milisecond i get into dating, aren't i?
I bet she probably hates guy though, because of her past, and also how her life is now. Can't blame her, trauma does things to ya. (Even if she isn't real)
@@MarimbaBirdsnumber1stan 1. I am not scared of lesbians, I have lesbian family members that I love dearly. 2. I like the blonde more then Nicole (I forgot the blondes name)
@@Smokecall Who knows? I think I remember dialogue about them doin stuff with dudes, but maybe I am getting things mixed up. I did watch Panty and stocking recently so that might be why.
She just hates everyone cause that’s the image the game is trying to make. Don’t think she’s necessarily lesbian, esp after a lot of arcs in the original game where she doesn’t choose anyone. She even hates herself. She’s just a hater.
