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Schluter Ditra explained and how to install it on Plywood. 

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@AllenUnderwood
@AllenUnderwood 7 лет назад
this is one of the best how to videos I've seen on this topic. well done man and I appreciate the time you took to make this.
@jackk8422
@jackk8422 5 лет назад
The best thing i learned is to take the straps off of you knee pads.
@will201084
@will201084 5 лет назад
Who are all the losers with unlikes lol
@jbenny9851
@jbenny9851 4 года назад
Contractors who will be loosing jobs lol
@toeknee2120
@toeknee2120 9 лет назад
Thanks for taking the time to make this. About to use Ditra for the first time and you explained it very well.
@everybodyhateskrys6425
@everybodyhateskrys6425 6 лет назад
May God continue to bless this man's knees.....love u Sal!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 6 лет назад
Knees are good, shoulders not so much.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 10 лет назад
Craftsman and great attention to detail, nice video!
@TIGHER333JA
@TIGHER333JA 7 лет назад
this guy is awesome
@anthonygarcia5746
@anthonygarcia5746 2 года назад
Im glad sal is showing the world how to tile. Alot of customers shit on contractors for not going fast or because its too expensive. Materials matter. Time matters. Tools matter. Tile guys need to plan ahead. Measure. Check the condition of the floor. Do repairs. Shucks , even do some framing and electrical work for a tile guy to get it done right the first time. You dont know what i have seen in showers and floors. We deal with rotten wood. Bad construction. Mold. Old plumbing and most of the time a cheap job because the customer does not want to pay. Heres my message for customers. FOR TILE. Warranty pays in the long run. If you want your tile for a short time... Theres cheap alternatives but it STILL COST MONEY. Overall for tile to stay impeccable for 20+ years...its not done on only tile and thinset. Theres more than just a tile guy. Theres framing. Pest control(termite. Wood ant. Etc). Plumbing. Sanitation. Moisture control/waterproofing. And the list goes on. Next time you want to save a buck for tile. remember: you might end up paying more.
@Lu-cho
@Lu-cho 3 года назад
Can install travertine on a manufactured home? Subfloor+ ditra+ travertine? Travertine Is to heavy for a manufactured home or modular home? Ditra is ok on subfloor? Or have to install one more layer of plywood? If need layer of plywood...? Do i need ditra after that?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Natural stone requires a much stronger floor than ceramic or porcelain tile. The subfloor must meet L/720 deflection and a second layer of plywood is required, then the uncoupling membrane.
@Lu-cho
@Lu-cho 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi thanks for your help! 👍
@Lu-cho
@Lu-cho 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi 😅 sounds crazy but we need sone help again. 😅 my friend have a one layer of plywood! They have already the ditra. After installing the second layer of plywood DO WE NEED THE DITRA OR JUST CAN INSTALL OVER THE PLYWOOD? Also they have problems with the moister from the bottom crawlspace ... Do you think they can sandwich the underlayment 6mil plastic moister barrier? Subfloor + 6 mil plastic + plywood + travertine or ditra + travertine. First option is to do the 6mil under the crawlspace but just looking a cheating option.. 😅 If we install the second layer of plywood what direction we need to lay the plywood? Same as the first layer?
@johnsmith-qe2fd
@johnsmith-qe2fd 5 лет назад
Too bad I’m not in Boston I would offer to help filming you vids.
@judichristopher4604
@judichristopher4604 5 лет назад
You would make a great team...
@vettepwr23
@vettepwr23 4 месяца назад
Great job and video. I am planning to install porcelain tiles on my bathroom floor. I took out the old tiles including the 5/8" plywood underlayment. The subfloor is made up of 1x8 floor boards so they are 3/4" thick. I plan to use Ditra as the joists are 16" OC. The floor boards have gaps from 1/4" to as much as a 1/2". A few spots are even larger than that. I was planning on installing 5/8" plywood sheeting (4-ply). Is this the right plywood type and thickness to go under the Ditra? Thanks.
@jonwisconsin1812
@jonwisconsin1812 2 года назад
Sal, what do you use on the plywood joints to fill any gaps before installing ditra?
@fulaxify
@fulaxify 6 лет назад
What do u do when the floor is not completely flat?
@andrewblack7852
@andrewblack7852 2 года назад
All cementious products are water wicking. The drink in ambient moisture. Placing thin set directly upon plywood will rot the plywood eventually. Doing that in a wet environment is asking for trouble. Old school method would be to put done backer board and then place thinset and tile. Using red guard or laticrete on the plywood first is even better. This schluter product isn’t needed or good in my and many other installers opinions.
@MrHodgeon5th
@MrHodgeon5th 8 лет назад
On a wood floor, what about a self leveling compound? then Ditra...then tile? Or do you just use a mud bed always?
@judichristopher4604
@judichristopher4604 5 лет назад
That is exactly what I want to know... Did you ever find out the answer to this great question?
@chowsman1
@chowsman1 4 года назад
Mixing the thinset wet is critical for this application.
@proteus1
@proteus1 6 лет назад
Do you leave a gap against edge of room ? I'm laying some tomorrow.
@overcomer4226
@overcomer4226 3 года назад
I think the purpose of the uncoupling membrane is to allow the floor the plywood to expand and contract the tile won't do that as much. Cell has another video about a guy named Steve with a million dollar house who had tile laid and it was a poor job I believe in their sal explains about expansion and contraction.
@absolutemalmaute9592
@absolutemalmaute9592 4 года назад
A contractor I know actually uses a paint roller to lay Ditra down. Saves your back, knees and time. Wets it with a spray bottle and then pours the thinset on the floor and rolls it out, then tapers the seams using the Ditra trowel
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
Tell that contractor that he is risking the failure of every floor he ever installed that way. Thinset mortar has a maximum water ratio that can be used before the mortar is rendered useless and will not have a strong bond. The size of the notched trowel is important to insure proper coverage and bond coat thickness. He will probably tell you he has never had a problem, don't believe it.
@maysamoreno4874
@maysamoreno4874 3 года назад
Hello, I have a question: I have a finished timber wood floor that’s half an inch thick. The floor is in good condition. Can I install Ditra on top, I would like to put porcelain tiles on top. I also found that under the wood floor there is no plywood, instead the subfloor is made of 3/4in by 6in wooden planks. If I need to remove the finished floor what thickness plywood should I use? The porcelain tiles i will install are 2 by 4 feet and thickness is 3/8 of an in. Which ditra thickness should I use? I really appreciate your videos and sorry for bothering with all these questions, I hope you can answer.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Not sure what you mean by Finished timber wood floor, but probably has to be removed. The subfloor wood planks are not a problem, install 1/2" Plywood according to subfloor installation methods for tile page 17 www.contractorsdirect.com/PDF/ditra-installation-handbook.pdf nd use method D-SP-TS-18 on page 7. Be sure that your floor meets deflection requirements for ceramic tile.
@maysamoreno4874
@maysamoreno4874 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi Dear Sal, Thank you so for much for the response. I have one final question: can I use the modified thin-set Exceeds ANSI 118 Versabond LFT underneath and on top of Ditra in order to install my porcelain 2 by 4 feet. I really appreciate your help.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
@@maysamoreno4874 I have never been a fan of Custom Products, but according to them you can use it for uncoupling membranes. www.custombuildingproducts.com/TDS/TDS-119.pdf
@maysamoreno4874
@maysamoreno4874 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi ok thank you once again and happy Easter
@maysamoreno4874
@maysamoreno4874 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi Dear Sal, I have another question to ask you. After some thought, I wanted to ask you if the mortar layout I created will work for my ditra. I took your advice and installed 1/2 inch plywood. I am going to use the Large Format Floor and Wall Tile Mortar from Mapei under my ditra and over my ditra. Then I will install my 2x4 feet porcelain tiles. I wanted to ask you if this is the correct mortar to use under and over my ditra. If it is, how long do I have to wait until I can apply the grouting? If this is not a product you recommend, I was going to go with UltraFlex from Mapei to go under the Ditra, and Kerabond T or the uncoupling membrane mortar from Mapei to go OVER the ditra. Please I beg you help me with this. I hope you can help me from your experience. Thank you so much Sal!
@fubartotale3389
@fubartotale3389 2 года назад
I just want to do a small powder room, what am I gonna do with 50 feet of this stuff?
@robertosgood961
@robertosgood961 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for another great video Sal! One question, when the Ditra is all laid down, should you wait a day to lay porcelain tile or can you just start right in on tiling? Trying to do this the right way and in no hurry. I'm using the Schluter All-set thinset for both the Ditra and tile on top of a plywood subfloor that's been cleaned up.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 7 месяцев назад
You can start tiling right away, but I prefer to wait until the next day.
@uzohf11
@uzohf11 Год назад
I would have loved to see the Ditra overlapping by at least 150mm on all the walls and most importantly it needs to go also under the bathtub!!!! ... it defeats the purpose otherwise... even the bathtub can leak!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi Год назад
You waterproof the wall to floor transition with banding, and this is a kitchen floor, not a bathroom.
@caring-assoul_
@caring-assoul_ 11 месяцев назад
Hey Sal, do you have any videos on how to install exterior terra-cotta tile on a stair landing? I tried looking myself, but I didn’t come across any that I viewed.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 11 месяцев назад
I don't do outside tile work, to risky in my area.
@overcomer4226
@overcomer4226 3 года назад
I don't see you using kirty band Between the different pieces. When would kirty band be necessary I'm guessing between a tub andThe schluter. Anywhere else
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
You only need the banding where you want waterproofing
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 5 месяцев назад
This man is an amazing excellent professional. Think what you want but it is a fact i have witnessed many times that hardworkers with high work ethics on difficult work like this are never, ever originated from the dark continent where live gorillas and hyenas (yeah cannot even name them as we live under a tyrannical clique that denies reality).
@christopherdegarmo5744
@christopherdegarmo5744 4 года назад
What van I use to level out the floor before installing the ditra?
@seanberry2a
@seanberry2a 8 лет назад
You are my DIY Hero when it comes to my bathroom remodel.
@nora-ub9yi
@nora-ub9yi Год назад
Sal i leveled my plywood substrate with self leveling concrete and I now I am ready for Ditra what product do you recommend for the thin set? I will be installing penny tile. Thank you.
@skutsenkow
@skutsenkow 10 месяцев назад
How thick is the Ditra with thinset after cementing it down? Curious if its worth doing this or just screwing down a 1/4" piece of cement board.
@CrystalMCruz
@CrystalMCruz 6 лет назад
Hi Sal, Recently came across your videos and very informative and detailed. We will be installing tile on a second floor that's about 1200 sqft. Is Ditra suppose to be more durable and long lasting than backerboard? Can this be installed all throughout the home including kitchen and restrooms? Does Ditra also help with soundproofing the floors? Thank you!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 6 лет назад
Let me just say that Ditra is much better than Backer board, if you want sound control, then use Ditra TB now called Duo, however works only on a concrete floor, wood subfloors will not see any real benefit.
@hanshans249
@hanshans249 2 года назад
Traduction totalement incompréhensible
@SkillBuilder
@SkillBuilder 8 лет назад
Hi Sal I used Ditra in a large kitchen. The tiler got us to lay it and fill the dovetails the day before he arrived. He then tiled onto our dry adhesive with a notched trowel bed. A year on one or two of the tiles are sounding hollow which I assume this means the bond has gone. I have checked Schluter's video and they don't show it being fillled before tiling. What do you think? I won't be calling him up to argue but I need to get it right next time.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 8 лет назад
+Skill Builder Filling the day before is not a problem, however having you install the ditra for him may not have been a good move. Although it is straight forward, it needs to be done properly and installed with the correct type of thinset and trowel.
@SkillBuilder
@SkillBuilder 8 лет назад
+Sal DiBlasi Thanks for the reply. He was tied up on another job so we had to move it along. I am fairly sure we did it right because he showed us exactly what to do and we pushed it down with a wood float The bond appears to be lost between the tile and the Ditra. No matter it is just slightly annoying. Good to see you doing it right and we will take care on the next job to use the polymer modified.
@savm8164
@savm8164 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, this is a great video. I'm going to tile my hallway and am researching quite a bit as a diy'er
@mikegallegos7
@mikegallegos7 7 лет назад
Sal DiBee, you are the Man !! Great vid. Thank you very much !
@johnwright6706
@johnwright6706 3 года назад
Only criticism I have is doing a "swirl" with the notches. It traps air and doesn't allow the correct bonding to occur.
@fuccinetti
@fuccinetti 3 года назад
Sal: my floor is uneven by 5/8 from the high to low side. what should i do before laying the ditra down?
@als363
@als363 Год назад
Hi, would it work if I use it over a wood parquet floor? Would remove barnish first. Thanks for advice
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi Год назад
No, Parquet has to go. No ifs ands or buts.
@als363
@als363 Год назад
thanks ;)
@roguetrail9495
@roguetrail9495 6 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.. Great video..
@fordmods7115
@fordmods7115 Год назад
Hi, only the 11/64 trowel works, or can I use something else?
@dustykerr8737
@dustykerr8737 2 года назад
Would you recommend doing the longest part of the room which would be the length of the smallest part which would be the width in my case. Do it matter what the over lap is from the edge of the plywood?
@jodybanks5344
@jodybanks5344 4 года назад
So I had a buddy tell my wife he was going to do our kitchen floor tile job. He proceeded to demand that I remove all appliances and expose subfloor surface. Also that I needed to buy tiles and bags of mortar, and a roll of Ditra . So I did everything he said and was told to then mortar plywood floor and put Ditra on top before he would come lay tile. I read instructions and had to replace plywood because of surface glue was making a good bond impossible also needed to thicker plywood . As I finished securing new plywood to subfloor he shows up and begins cutting Ditra to begin mortaring to floor. I was his helper and he acted as if he knew what he was doing ? Well After he finished tile job last night I was thinking about how when he was applying mortar for tiles the Ditra surface didn’t have bright orange waffle shiny side surface underneath. It was a flat orange cloth looking side showing ( aka upside down ) . So my question is this ? Does this matter enough that I should demo his work now and save myself the time of having to live with a job so poorly done now ? Or it will be fine and last long enough that living with his shoddy job might be worth the five years before replacing it later ? Thanks for input
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
If the ditra is upside down, then it needs to be replaced.
@abccru5660
@abccru5660 3 года назад
Hi Sal, Just wanted to say thank you for posting super-helpful videos and sharing your considerable experience with us!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
You are so welcome!
@SkillfulScott
@SkillfulScott 3 года назад
Sal your one of two people I follow for tile work who actually know what your doing tile coach is the other. Thank you for all you hard work on these videos
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
I appreciate that!
@richardb7093
@richardb7093 3 года назад
The Ditra XL DOES NOT cut that easy. Had to use Dremel to cut it cleanly. You need a clearance to wall of 1/4” per Schluter requirements. Schluter offer their Schluter Set All that is a modified thinset that can be use under and on top. Very Expensive!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Never had a problem cutting Ditra, have to have a sharp blade. Correct, always leave room for movement, thinset is the glue that holds everything together, so you never want to skimp on that.
@1972landcruiser
@1972landcruiser 3 года назад
what thinset if I'm installing it over hardy backer, modified or unmodified?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Do not install ditra over cement board, one or the other, not both.
@61spindrift
@61spindrift 3 года назад
I trust Sal on anything he says however, I am not sure he understood what you were doing. I believe hardy backer is a great substrate for Ditra. And I am thinking that unmodified would be the product. Just guessing, anyone know for sure reading this?
@vigneshsan7976
@vigneshsan7976 2 года назад
Any alternative for Ditra trowel? Can I use 1/8 or 1/4x 3/8 trowel ?
@MrBert001
@MrBert001 4 года назад
Why sal?do you always dampen the wooden subfloor with water instead of putting a primer on it that makes shure that the thinset cures nicely.in belgium wooden subfloors are not so common.mostly subfloors are screed.we do primer a lot on plaster,gyproc,fluid screed,...
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
The dry set mortar, which hs to conform to ANSI A118.11 or better works by adhering and penetrating into the pores of the plywood. If you seal those pores then you impede the ability of the mortar to do its job. Always dampen the plywood to remove residual dust and to give the plywood a "Drink" so the wood does not draw the moisture out of the mortar and allows it to cure properly. Should do the same to any prose surface anyway, for the same reason, although the type of thinset mortar may be different.
@KASUN_M
@KASUN_M 6 лет назад
Why do all the work of putting down this stuff. I've tiled to plywood for years without a problem
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 6 лет назад
I have heard that countless times, and have done it many times, however it is probably one of the worst tile substrates you can use in my opinion.
@Questchaun
@Questchaun 5 лет назад
What do you do to account for expansion?
@judichristopher4604
@judichristopher4604 5 лет назад
This is a good question.... Do you put down an underlayment on the plywood substrate first for moister barrier?
@vovkam
@vovkam 10 лет назад
Pleasure to watch a pro at work
@dilligaf2386
@dilligaf2386 2 года назад
So to clarify flexible adhesive to lay the ditra and standard adhesive to lay tiles? Great video.
@adajasso
@adajasso Год назад
Sal, Can I use the Schluter All-Set thin set to apply both the ditra membrane and the tile over the ditra
@adajasso
@adajasso Год назад
By the way, this job will be over a plywood subfloor
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi Год назад
Yes
@deathreaper1989
@deathreaper1989 5 лет назад
Hi Sal , Thank you for share this great video. However I am really frustrated and despaired for this product recently . The reason why is " I Cant effort ALL SET Mortar , it is so expensive just for that small bag. Other than that, I Could not find any of other brand who makes Mid -Bed UNMODIFIED THINSET for install size of 18"x36" larger format tile. I mean , we use to use ANSI 118.15 T OR FOR Install that size of the tile . But it is polymer modified . If I used it , it will be out of Schulter warranty . NEED help ! Sal, would you recommend any sag-resistant UNMODIFIED Mortar .?? Thank you
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
To keep the warranty, you can use any brand Premium Unmodified dry set mortar A118.1. Schluter Set, Bostik Ditraset, laticrete 317 or 272, Tec uncoupling membrane mortar, Mapei Kerabond. I pretty much always use unmodified mortar to set my tiles on Schluter products, usually the "Set"
@billyfield8984
@billyfield8984 7 лет назад
if I have a hall that's 3x12 and I have 2 pieces of schluter that are 3x6,can I have a seem on the 3 ft end ? Does it matter if you have a seam at the end (or beginning) of roll(3ft end)if so,do I need to butt it up tight or leave 1/4 gap
@WaynesWorldStudioVancouver
@WaynesWorldStudioVancouver 4 года назад
I have air pockets under the Ditra on wooden floor, I have leveled the subfloor but not perfect. Now I might have to cut the batch of sections out, that is suck!
@torkdork69
@torkdork69 3 года назад
How do you suppose that happened ? A bit of a bummer but not too hard to cut out and redo the sections. How did it go?
@61spindrift
@61spindrift 3 года назад
@@torkdork69 Exactly! How the heck did that happen? While mixing the thinset? Too dry a thinset when applying Ditra? Not moisten plywood before thinset? Not troweled correctly? Did not put enough pressure on Ditra with wooden trowel? Did I forget anything? I would like to know the same as I am installing soon.
@torkdork69
@torkdork69 3 года назад
@@61spindrift most likely the latter of the questions and a mix of the floor having a dip in it. Proper trowel and mix with good added pressure to collapse 90% of ridged should suffice for decades.
@johnwright6706
@johnwright6706 3 года назад
Improper troweling. With thinset or mortar for tile you want the grooves to all be going the same direction, no swirling. That way as you bed in the air has a place to go and not be trapped.
@johnwright6706
@johnwright6706 3 года назад
@@61spindrift at 11:10 you can see the swirling in the thin set, that is ok for glue, but not bedding tile. You can kind of get away with it with small format tile, but never with large. Straight lines in tile.
@gary24752
@gary24752 3 года назад
So what happens should they get water damage and need to remove the existing tile? Will this membrane come up willingly or will you destroy the sub-floor in the process of removing it?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Are you expecting water damage? If so the system can easily be made watertight to eliminate that problem. Tile is a permanent finish, if you worry about removal, then use something else. You don't compromise the installation to make it easier to remove. Plenty of tools and methods to deal with rip outs when it is time.
@agrippinasavishna5648
@agrippinasavishna5648 3 года назад
Dear Sal, does orientation of Ditra sheets matter? Parallel or perpendicular to the tub? Or certain orientation with regards to joists? Thank you!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
No
@netman88
@netman88 9 лет назад
Thanks for the video.
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 7 лет назад
Something doesn't make sense to me about the Ditra. if its supposed to create a "floating" floor to where the subfloor can move because the tile isn't bonded to it but its locked into the membrane, then when you bond the membrane to the subfloor its not a floating system anymore. if the Ditra is bonded to the sublfloor and the subfloor moves, then the tile that is locked into the membrane is also going to move with it..or am I not thinking correctly?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 7 лет назад
It is not a floating floor, ditra is an uncoupling membrane, , the underside of the Ditra is bonded to the floor the tile is mechanically locked to the Ditra, the membrane can move and deform without transferring the movement to the tile.
@robryan3605
@robryan3605 9 лет назад
Hi Sal. I just installed the Ditra and wanted to fill the waffles but wasn't sure what type of mortar to use. Can you advise? Thanks, Rob
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 9 лет назад
Rob Ryan If you fill the waffles and let it dry you can use modified if you like, but if you do not let it dry and tile as you go it must be unmodified. You can also fill with unmodified, do not use modified to set the tile. So to avoid buying two kinds of thinset just stick to the unmodified.
@juansanchez-kg2to
@juansanchez-kg2to Год назад
Lazy installation you didn’t even remove the trims
@CocoandtheMuse
@CocoandtheMuse 5 лет назад
Me too! I did not realize that there was anything else besides hardy backer.. this video was fabulous! Thank you!!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
Lots of options available, besides cement board.
@christopherblack5112
@christopherblack5112 2 года назад
Do I use a polymer modified thin set?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад
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@marke.9971
@marke.9971 2 года назад
forgot to cover the seems with the schluder tape
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад
No need unless you want it waterproof at the seems
@ceeIoc
@ceeIoc 3 года назад
If I’m building a walk in shower in addition to tiling the floors, should I install ditra before tiling the shower curb?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Not enough info to answer that question.
@ceeIoc
@ceeIoc 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi I meant when doing the shower curb, I’ve seen where they put a kerdi band between the shower curb bottom and the ditra on the bathroom floor. Is this step necessary or can I install ditra later after the shower is done and tiled?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
@@ceeIoc You can if you want, but it is a good idea to do that although not required. You could just leave the tile under the crb until after you tile the floor, that is what I do.
@ceeIoc
@ceeIoc 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi ok thanks!!
@americanindeon
@americanindeon 4 года назад
Sal, Can Ditra be used on the shower sub floor before the motor pan is packed? Thanks.
@robertmoats396
@robertmoats396 6 месяцев назад
Are you using a modified thinset?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 6 месяцев назад
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@jamesmedina3271
@jamesmedina3271 Год назад
On a tear out Sal do you have to replace the subfloor?
@th3guitarplayer
@th3guitarplayer 4 года назад
Can you apply this dita membrane over existing tile? if so what’s the best way to do so ?
@tayzar1732
@tayzar1732 9 лет назад
good
@sweetE420
@sweetE420 4 года назад
I just had a quick question that I haven’t seen answered on the videos I’ve looked at how thick should the thinset be before laying the ditra over it?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
Depends on the type of ditra, " For DITRA use a 1/4" x 3/16" (6 mm x 5 mm) V-notched trowel, 5/16" x 5/16" (8 mm x 8 mm) V-notched trowel, or the DITRA trowel which features a 11/64" x 11/64" (4.5 mm x 4.5 mm) square-notched design. For DITRA-XL use a 1/4" x 1/4" (6 mm x 6 mm) square-notched trowel or the DITRA-XL trowel, which features a 1/4" x 1/4" (6 mm x 6 mm) square-notched design." Page 18 of the ditra handbook sccpublic.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/sys-master/images/h66/h6e/8917114126366/DITRA%20Installation%20Handbook.pdf
@rattown99
@rattown99 5 лет назад
Ditra requires 19.1” or less joist spacing, what if joists are at 24”?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
Here is the ditra hand book, pdf.lowes.com/installationguides/4011832107092_install.pdf review it, usually have to use ditra xl,
@Lava-hr1xl
@Lava-hr1xl 3 года назад
Hello Sal. You're videos are extremely helpful. I'm preparing to install Schluter Ditra on OSB but I do not know what is meant by "tightly butted seams must be addressed". Would you please explain.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
It is common practice for the carpenters to butt the seams of the OSB tight together, to slam them in tight so there is no gap. They are supposed to engage the tongue and groove without snugging them up. Advantech actually has it written on the edge of the sheets, to leave an 1/8" gap.
@mymusic7262
@mymusic7262 Год назад
Hi - Is it OK to backbutter the matting?
@007vsMagua
@007vsMagua 4 года назад
Excellent video. I'm getting ready to put down 120 sq. ft. of porcelain floor tile over a plywood sub-floor in my kitchen. Thanks for all the good advice.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
👍
@aportman58
@aportman58 4 года назад
Sal, I am currently tiling a small restroom which the floor is concrete slab. Any benefit of using Schluter Ditra installed over concrete slab? Thanks!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
For sure, always better to have an uncoupling membrane.
@aportman58
@aportman58 4 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi Great...I will use it on my project! Thanks!
@Mrdubomb
@Mrdubomb 3 года назад
My old tile in hallway and powder room was laid over 1/2 inch ply underlay over 5/8 ply subfloor, (2x8 joists 12' long, 16 O.C.) it was ok for 20 years, no cracks or bounce. In one area which will be done with hardwood I removed the tile & underlay and now notice the floor is weaker. So the underlay definitely made a difference. I'm debating on whether or not I even need the ditra, and if I use it, should I beef up the subfloor before using it. I am debating removing the underlay to replace it with something else vs just removing the mortar and re-tiling on the underlay that is existing. Either way its pretty labor intensive. also, if I need to re-tile in another twenty years, what is done about the ditra that is installed and stuck to the subfloor or underlay. Thanks for your videos.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Your floor structure does not meet L/360, so the tile should have never been installed on that floor in the first place. So you might say that the floor lasted 20 years, no problem. If the floor does not meet deflection requirements, that does not mean it will fail for sure, however id does increase the risk significantly the weaker the floor. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-74BDTI67S1M.html Not following minimum standards, TCNA and manufacturers recommendations does not guarantee failure, but following them does ensure success.
@Mrdubomb
@Mrdubomb 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi Apparently I was wrong about these, they are 12 O.C. and 10 foot span, I think that would make a significant difference. Either way, I don't want to do it twice so ill be beefing up the floor with something and then the ditra.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
@@Mrdubomb At that joist structure you more than meet deflection requirements.
@steverodgers9206
@steverodgers9206 5 лет назад
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos lately, getting into a small bathroom tile job. I just have one question for you. My subfloor is concrete, I removed the tile with a hammer and cleared all the existing thinset. There is a really thin, pretty much paper thin black layer that’s over my concrete subfloor. Do I need to get that off? If not, what type of thinset do I use to set the Ditra on top of the concrete or technically the black paper thin thing over the concrete? And what size trowel do you use to install ditra to concrete subfloor? I’ll be using 12x24 porcelain tiles if that helps.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
In general concrete needs to be bare and the pores need to be open for thinset mortar to be able to adhere to it, so yes, you probably need to mechanically remove the black stuff to open the pores and eliminate the bond inhibitor. That being said, if the black stuff is very old, it could be CutBack, and there are thinsets that can be used to set your tile to it. Here is an article that will clarify your choices. www.tcnatile.com/faqs/29-cutback-residue.html
@zbo2
@zbo2 6 лет назад
Question Sal, I used a prefab Tile EZ shower pan with no threshold that was 1" thick. I had to build up the rest of the floor with cement board to keep the no threshold look. Would there be any benefit to using this product on top of the cement board or would that be over kill in your opinion? Thanks in advance for your answer.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 6 лет назад
Yes, you would get the uncoupling benefit.
@brianhawes1974
@brianhawes1974 6 лет назад
I noticed you only mixed your thin set for 30 seconds or so. Why don’t you mix it for the 5 min it calls for on the bag instructions?
@medievaljon
@medievaljon 6 лет назад
video was just on fast forward
@johnal4560
@johnal4560 4 года назад
i want to use this on plywood that i already used self leveling to level the entire washroom floor {custom LevelQuik} so what should i use Modify or un modify thanks
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
Modified
@johnal4560
@johnal4560 4 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi Sal i am confused now in Schluter site said unmodified on self leveling since i am installing Ditra on self leveling under the self leveling is plywood
@christopherd7922
@christopherd7922 7 лет назад
I love your videos. I've just completely gutted my 13x12 master bathroom. I've ripped up the 1/2" plywood underlayment down to the 5/8" plywood sub floor. I was planning on adding new 1/2" plywood underlayment back down once all the plumbing was moved. Should I just go over the subfloor with the Ditra Heat or add the underlayment? Ty
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 7 лет назад
In most cases you can go over the sub floor if it is all tongue and grove or blocked, if you are not installing a natural stone tile and if it meets L/360.
@jeanmarino6651
@jeanmarino6651 6 лет назад
Thank you Sal. For years I've used Blanke Permat in place of "another" sheet of 3/4" plywood wasn't possible. I was told that Permat is the only uncoupling membrane that actually replaces wood substrate for structural integrity. It isn't waterproof but perfect when height transitions are important. Tile need one & 1/8" of "structural" substrate (Arch. Standards) If you only have 3/4" do you feel confident using Ditra over that?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 6 лет назад
If the joist structure is correct, the subfloor is correct, without a doubt, bullet proof. I have used Ditra for thousands upon thousands of feet of tile for more than a decade, never one cracked tile, never a problem. Completely confident. If you are talking about natural stone where the deflection needs to be half that of a ceramic tile, then you need a second layer of plywood to meet the L/720. Permat says that you can just go over a single layer of plywood with it and install your stone, do you feel comfortable doing that? I know the answer. The 1 and 1/8 you are referring to is if you are going to use plywood as your underlayment for your ceramic tile, then yes you need that thickness. Just check your TCNA handbook. Just in case you need some help looking for them, 2017 TCNA Handbook page 172 Method F148-17 for uncoupling membrane max joist spacing 19.2", 2017 TCNA Handbook, page 158 Method F150-17 for plywood underlayment max joist spacing 16". However I could not find Permat in the Handbook, I guess it is not approved by the TCNA. Don't get me wrong, I know it is a great product and works as you described, just wanted you do be sure that I am relying on accepted standards for the things I do.
@Lando94
@Lando94 2 года назад
Wow you made it look easy and I kinda did it a backwards way but your method looks much easier
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад
Glad it helped
@holland6648
@holland6648 5 лет назад
Can you use ardex x77 for under the ditra? And also over ditra or is ardex fb 9L better for over? Went to the tile shop and the owner got me al confused
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
You can use it under ditra to install over plywood, It conforms to ANSI A118.11 so it will stick to plywood. This Will also maintain your Schluter warranty. If you use it to install the tile on the ditra, it will work just fine, not going into the details on how it works, however you will void your Schluter warranty as Schluter requires the use of an unmodified thinset to install the tile if a brand of mortar other than their own is used, X77 is modified. In this case Ardex will pick up the warranty for you, so no problem there if you don't care about losing the schluter warranty. I would also advise against ever asking a sales person for instructions on how to install anything.
@holland6648
@holland6648 5 лет назад
Sal DiBlasi thank you! I was a little worried cause i used the x77 under the ditra i can still buy unmodified mortar cause i dit not tile it yet. Thank you again for answering my question so fast 🙂
@lukegarrett6233
@lukegarrett6233 9 лет назад
Hi,great vidoes and very infomative. My floor is 75% wood flooring and the rest is a solid concrete. Do i need to use 2 different adhesives for this?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 9 лет назад
You must use modified thinset on the plywood, and you can use it on the concrete. You can't however use unmodified to install the dita on plywpod. Then use unmodified to set the tile on the ditra.
@andrew7986
@andrew7986 5 лет назад
Sal - I just pulled up old tile in my bathroom that was laid over a cement board underlayment over OSB. I use a rotary hammer and chisel to pull it all up but there is still a thin smooth layer of thin set over the OSB in most places. I found that chiseling down to the OSB was tearing up the board. Can I lay Ditra over old thin set? Thanks for your videos.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
You have few options, most common are to grind it down with a cup grinder, which is pretty quick, or if it is really stuck and you are sure it will not be a bond inhibitor, clean it up and go over it with new mortar as you set your ditra.
@61spindrift
@61spindrift 3 года назад
@@SalDiBlasi So what did you do and is it holding up a year later? I would have thought you could just go over with thinset but definitely use a boding agent or primer first.
@mrhernandez1197
@mrhernandez1197 5 лет назад
Hi Sal, great vids , I really learn a lot. I am gutting the kitchen, installing 3/4 in plywood to sub floor, should I install one layer of plywood or two, as long as I don’t over extend height to include tile?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
You need to determine the floor deflection, Needs to be L/360 or better for porcelain tile, and no need for the second layer of plywood. On the other hand, for natural stone, you need L/720 and also the second layer of plywood.
@agrippinasavishna5648
@agrippinasavishna5648 3 года назад
Thank you very much for this video! We are trying to install Ditra in our bathroom and i would greatly appreciate your advice on plywood underlayment. We have 3/4 plywood over 16 oc trusses and 1/4 underlayment on top of it. Can we install ditra on top of this underlayment (it is hardwood plywood)? Thank you!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
The 1/4" has to come out.
@agrippinasavishna5648
@agrippinasavishna5648 3 года назад
Thank you so much for your quick reply. What is the reason 1/4 has to go? What would happen if we install it on 1/4. Appreciate your feedback!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Minimum thickness of plywood in any tile assembly is 3/8, the 1/4" has no structural value and will buckle when you apply the thinset and starts to dry and cure.
@rigom891
@rigom891 2 года назад
Hey great video do you let it dry overnight before installation of new tile?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад
Don't have to, but preferable.
@derrickgettinger7285
@derrickgettinger7285 9 лет назад
Hello Sal. I've installed some ditra over concrete and after the fact noticed a low spot. Can I put some sort of leveling compound on top of the ditra before placing tile down? Thanks
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 9 лет назад
Derrick Gettinger The only thing that should be put over the ditra is unmodified thinset, so no leveling compound.
@derrickgettinger7285
@derrickgettinger7285 9 лет назад
***** okay, thanks Sal!
@RangerCaptain11A
@RangerCaptain11A 5 лет назад
to set the ditra, use modified mortar on bare plywood. if you kept the linolium thats there now, switch to unmodified?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
Modified on anything but concrete
@RangerCaptain11A
@RangerCaptain11A 5 лет назад
@@SalDiBlasi oh, ok, thanks. i thought it had to do with the ability of the mortar to dry. but it must be whether any movement of the base is possible.
@ddavison26
@ddavison26 8 лет назад
Hi sal great videos! I'm installing wood plank tile 36" or 48" over a hydronic radiant heated panel floor which is aluminum, would you suggest adding ditra (what adhesive?) or use CBU? Thanks!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 8 лет назад
+Denise U CBU might be a pfoblem becsuse you need to penetreta into the floor you are covering, ditra would be a better choice, but i would contact Schluter tec support to get their recommendations.
@stevebeaulieu2617
@stevebeaulieu2617 4 года назад
Hi Sal ! Can you help me to find the right mortar please, I live in Canada and I dont know witch one to choose. We have Home Depot, Rona (it's like Lowes). My job is: I do have one layer of 5/8 plywood glue and screw, I will install 24'' X 48'' large format tile. I will use Ditra (not heating). So I'm looking for a brench of mortar for underneet the Ditra and over the Ditra after. Good video !
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
Not sure if the standards for mortar are the same in Canada, to install the ditra to the plywood look for a mortar that meets or exceeds ANSI A118.11 This would include thinsets like Mapei Ultraflex 2, Laticrete 235 gold, ardex x5, or Schluter AllSet. To install the tile on the ditra, Schluter AllSet, (yes modified mortar) Schluter says to use an unmodified mortar if you do not use their brand of mortar, The standard is A118.1 This would include Mapei Kerabond, Laticrete 317 or 272, Tec uncoupling membrane Mortar, However that is not to say a modified mortar will not work, but it will not preserve the warranty if you decide to use a modified mortar to set your tile on ditra. There have been some developments with thinset in the past few years that has made solved the problem of using modified mortar on ditra, but you have to know which modified mortar can be used.
@stevebeaulieu2617
@stevebeaulieu2617 4 года назад
There is a store who sale Mapei Keraflex plus, the men told me I can use that for plywood and Ditra, and even on top of the Ditra with large tile 2' X 4'. What do you think about it ? Is it good ? Its 29.99$ a bag. Thanks again Sal.
@stevebeaulieu2617
@stevebeaulieu2617 4 года назад
Sal Diblasi: Hi Sal, I need your comment ont that: There is my floor layout: Joist 16'-8'' and 17' at 16'' center with 5/8 plywood tong and groove glue and screew. For the deflexion of the joist the place I bought the joist said L648, L699,L745. I need to tell you than I will have an island of 73'' X 84'' with granit counter top on top of my 24'' X 48'' tile. Do you think my joist are enought strong for not cracking my tile ? Deflexion is ok for the lenght of the joist? Would you add a second layer of plywood on top of my 5/8, maybee 1/2 or an other 5/8 plywood? Thanks for helping me, by the way you are a good teacher !
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 4 года назад
​@@stevebeaulieu2617 For the deflection plug your numbers in here www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/deflecto.pl you did not specify the unsupported span. As far as the thinset goes it is Exceeds ANSI A118.4HTE and A118.11 requirements and is suitable for plywood, Can you install your tile on Ditra with it, sure, but you will void the schluter warranty, to maintain the warranty you can use Schluter AllSet if you want modified mortar, or any brand of unmodified mortar.
@anthonyroberts9232
@anthonyroberts9232 8 лет назад
Awesome know I understand thanks for sharing the Ditra effect.
@snowballandcocopuff5465
@snowballandcocopuff5465 Год назад
Hey Sal, can't you use LFT mortar to install tile over Ditra?
@utubegoogle
@utubegoogle 3 года назад
Thank you for you time and heart , to sharing knowledge , much much appreciated 🙏
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
My pleasure!
@gaypreator8547
@gaypreator8547 5 лет назад
As always great content. Do not know what I enjoy most: the art of great prep work - or how skilled you are at using those knee pads. Lol. Mr DiBlasi I hope you never miss place them -breaking in a new pair must be a skill in itself. Your videos are a treasure for educating and promoting pride in a job well done. 👍
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
👍😊
@jameswhite5219
@jameswhite5219 7 лет назад
Sal, how do you keep the Kerdi Band from making the floor uneven? I notice that you don't put the Kerdi band on the Ditra seams.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 7 лет назад
Kerdi band is very thin, usually not a problem it is not needed unless you want to make the floor waterproof
@mrhernandez1197
@mrhernandez1197 5 лет назад
I am using porcelain tile, what does deflection L/360 MEAN?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
It is how much the floor can bend under the tile before there is a problem. it can be calculated with an app by checking your joist structure. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-74BDTI67S1M.html
@bofootball30
@bofootball30 8 лет назад
look at the waves in the floor, hollow doesnt lay flat, grout cracks. plus it cost more and is much work as pulling concete.I am old school but I open to new ideas but this does not pass my inspection.pulled up 5 of these floors already. good luck
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 8 лет назад
+Donald Balowski If you don't want to use it, then don't, if you don't want to believe the effectivenes of an uncoupling membrane , then don't, if you don't want to acknowledge that it is much quicker to install, and lighter than any mud job or cement board, that is fine. You have pulled up 5 badly installed jobs done with Ditra, like I said anything installed incorrectly is likely to fail. Stay in the past, be left behind while the industry continues to advance. There will always be a place for mud, but it has been supplanted by more efficiant and reliable methods, I have been installing tile for 30 years. I know a quality product when i see one.
@bofootball30
@bofootball30 8 лет назад
I have watched your install i can pul a concrte floor a just as fast as that application been doing it for 35 years. I do not live in the past I will use durock done properly on a level floor it works great. That Ditra is junk, makes no sense , cost more, takes longer. i pull and set in same day grout and it will last a lifetime, level , flat and I am sorry you are offended but it is true. not a hater good luck in you ventures wish you well
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 8 лет назад
Donald Balowski Not at all offended, just having a discussion, you are entitled to your opinion as am i. Even though I no longer do it, i have installed plenty of mud floors, and I know exactly what both types of installs take. I will take Ditra any day over Mud, my body thanks me every day. I actually have a suggestion for you, I am a member of a closed Facebook group of over 3000 tile industry related professionals including installers, reps etc, would you like to be a part of it. You will be able to interact and share your opinion and thoughts and see what others think and do, all in a civil and friendly manner. Let me know.
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 года назад
Your videos have caused my dad & I both to start planning our first bathroom tile projects. Both with their own challenges. He's a good bit more educated than myself as of now but with the amount of information you have avalable, there is no question that we will both succeed. Thanks!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад
Thanks, glad it helped
@RogerDiotte
@RogerDiotte 6 лет назад
So, Polymer Modified Ditra -> Plywood Floor shortform (PMPF), Polymer Unmodified Ditra -> Concrete Floor (PUCF) then Polymer Unmodified ontop of Ditra. This applies to outdoor applications as well?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 6 лет назад
+Roger Diotte polymer modified to install on plywood, unmodified or modified to install o concrete. Unmodified to install the tile on ditra, unless you are using Schluters own thinset, then you can choose to folow the above or use modified for everything
@RogerDiotte
@RogerDiotte 6 лет назад
Sal DiBlasi I'm a better person in the world with you Sal... I did the right thing then and it's holding up freaking awesome.. Laid Porcelain exterior entranceway and it's been through a week of -13 Fahrenheit..
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