Schuberth C5 helmet vs Shoei Neotec 2 helmet 

Trust me it's better for your bank balance you cannot just pop in.......lol

It didn’t take long for me to take out the SRL and replace it with a Cardo

Thank you for your kind words!

Couldn't agree more!

Thank you so much!

Glad you think so!

Thank you for watching the video!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hi mate, what does sc2 stand for?? Is the C5 integrated sound quality poor then?

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Can you be a passenger David ?

Just an FYI, i own a neotech 2 and you can indeed install any aftermarket Bluetooth headset. It won't fit in to the slots made for the Sena srl, but it installes like any older helmets where it sits on the side.

Ill never buy senna again after wasting my money on the sena sc1 in my schuberth e1 useless system

I fitted cardo edge to my neotec 2 without a problem.

Fair enough. But I still think that for those who want only to use devices or to talk to a pillion, Schuberth’s comms. solution on offer is a bit expensive. CP.

@@Motolegends Totally agree. I wish the helmet manufacturers would just come up with an open standard for integrated comms systems.

@@JonLong that is the best. I have both sena and Cardo because the groups that I ride with uses each brand exclusively. Luckily I bought both 2nd hand at a cheap enough price.

Just use Apple airpod pros … brilliant … use in my Harley and the noise cancelling is brilliant and still allows quality sound and voice activation … combine that with and Apple Watch and iPhone on your bars and you have an amazing and integrated solution for the bike :)

@@Iron883NZ how do you interact with your phone? Advantage of bespoke system is they have control that is accessible easily. Some even have its own assistant to help you without the use of any button. Yeah you can touch your phone but I keep my phone in the bag during heavy rain since its not really waterproof

There has been a shortage of some Shoei pads recently, post Brexit and the Lockdown, but only in a few sizes. We always carry several hundred sets in stock. They don’t cost a lot and when you fit a replacement set you get your money back. So your dealer is cutting corners. All Shoei dealers should keep all the pads in stock all the time. If you’re serious about custom fitting, it really isn’t a huge investment. He is having to order an extra small in to get hold of a 39mm cheekpad or a 13mm liner, but why? Any serious stockist should have at least one example on the shelf of every size a helmet comes in. I do have some sympathy. We have done the same in recent weeks to get the parts we needed, but we have never had to order a helmet in to get that part. But we do now have more than 30 helmets with removed inners that we have stolen for customers. We will put the missing parts back in due course. But I have to say that I feel your dealer is making excuses. The don’t seem to really be committed to custom fitting. The Schuberth system is more difficult, but dealers who are committed to customer service will swallow the cost. CP

Bit late but yeah they’re removable. I’ve got a sena 10r, I’ve left the ones in it that came in as they’re all on the plugs anyways. No loads of room to fit your intercom but it’s definitely do-able.

You could be waiting a long time. The C4 Pro was introduced speedily to repair some of the issues with the original C4. But it was well over five years for the C3 Pro to replace the C3. Don’t take any notice of SHARP. I have written numerous articles about the standard. Nobody in the industry takes it seriously. It was predicated on a European Commission report called COS327, but the former BSI people ignored the recommendations and used cheaper, inferior equipment. In their first round of results they gave five stars to a cheap, £60 plastic helmet from Lazer. They gave an Arai helmet just three stars. From then on, nobody has really given SHARP much consideration. The chin test devised by SHARP has not been peer reviewed or independently tested. It has not been adopted by the new ECE 22-06 regulations, by Snell or DOT. The SHARP test is not to be given much weight. If you choose your helmets based solely on their recommendations you will probably be disappointed. The organisation is currently looking for funding to improve their test procedures in the light of 22-06, but it seems unlikely that they will be successful.

@@Motolegends Well that’s the DfT efforts to improve standards and help motorcyclists summarily dismissed and put well and truly in a box then. I can’t pretend that I was not disappointed to find my current choice of helmet not scoring well in the SHARP tests, but being “just” a customer I have no dog in the fight so to speak. With that in mind I couldn’t care less if a particular Arai didn’t score well, but I’m not going out to buy that cheap Laser either. I’m not in the target market demographic for either of those I think. However ignoring brand prestige and marketing for a moment, isn’t a good safety score for a budget helmet not good news for those who perhaps can’t afford a premium C5 or a Neotec etc?. I do enjoy your reviews on bike gear, always logical with common sense advice which is always welcome, so thank you for that.

Thank you!

No. You won’t be able to install a different comms and link in to existing speakers. We have stock of comms!

No earlier than the end of 2023.

C4 Pro was a bit bigger but not as good a helmet as the other two.

Dear Randy We work through a UK distributor as do all the retailers in the UK. But we still offer the service to swop cheek pads. This is supported by the UK distributor but clearly the Canadian one does not do the same. Hope you have a good Christmas too. ML

They said it was fixed

@@app1mxh Thanks!

@@aBluegrassPicker Mine arrives this weekend. Will keep you posted

Yes, of course. But if the size is wrong, it can become an expensive exercise. CP

@Motolegends which company do you use for the courier? Is it UPS? Also, do you have an estimated delivery time once the order is placed ?

Please send us an email with the products you would like to order and we will answer all this questions as soon as possible. Our email address is: help@motolegends.com Our phone number is: +44 (0) 1483 407 500

The important thing is the brand of comms.. The SC2 is Sena so will pair easily with any other Sena. Will also pair easily with UCOM models from Interphone as those have a Sena chip. It is not easy to pair intercoms from different manufacturers. Some manufacturers say you can but is is never straightforward and normally requires ‘tricking’ the units into pairing. So our advice is go for same brand on comms. But doesn’t have to be same model.

There will be an SRL 3 which will fit in Neotec 2, GT Air 2 and J-Cruise 2 and that will be Mesh. The SRL 2 will still be available so there will be a choice for consumers.

@@Motolegends Amazing do you have a date for that ? I think you have just made my day I do like my Shoie but will be trying both👍

no

Sorry, Jacob; you are absolutely right. In my last video on the C5 I did talk about this, but forget to do so here. My fault; not intentional. On a subconscious level, perhaps I wanted to give the helmet a chance, and not dwell on perceived weaknesses? I don’t know! In your case, I don’t think the look of the shell will appear overly large. It can happen if you have an ‘extra small’ head in the smaller shell size. Or a ‘large’ head in the larger shell size, but as an ‘extra large’ in the larger shell it won’t look untoward. I think you should try it on to see how it feels. Honestly, it can be a mistake to obsess over the aesthetics. The important thing is fit and comfort.

@@Motolegends Unfortunately I'm one of those with a smaller head (small to x-small size). That did factor a bit for not buying a C4 Pro. Not sure I want to look like a bobble head. I'll have to check out the C5 since my head shape is round and Shoei helmets generally don't fit well.

@@Motolegends No worries and thank you very much for your reply. I was actually thinking about safety - not aesthetics (but did not express it clearly :-)). So I'm wondering whether being a XL (the smallest size in a large shell size) makes it less safe (=more foam, lining etc.)? I hope the question makes sense :-)

Watch the video! CP

Only two; and in our view this is sub-optimal. Embarrassingly, I forgot to mention this fact in this review, although I did talk about it in my previous one. At times, however, too much emphasis can be put on the number of shells. There are helmets out there with four shell sizes that nobody would want to wear; yet a lot with two that anybody would. The acid test is fit; if a helmet fits, then I wouldn’t be too bothered about the number of shell sizes. Schuberths have never had more than two shell sizes; and on the C3 this was never really an issue. With the C4, the issue was not the number of shell sizes, but the fit; it just wasn’t very accommodating. CP

@@Motolegends Thank you, sir. I agree with everything stated, and generally I do not care about shell sizes..except that some bigger shells do not or cannot fit well in my top case. This is my default helmet storage location and a prized convenience. I'd like to share an odd thing I encountered with my prior C4. To my understanding, and for whatever reason, size L in the American market utilized the big shell, while the same size in Europe appears to utilize the small shell. So, even tho I had the same size helmet according to Schuberth, one would fit in my top case and the other would not. For this reason, although I'm in America, I only order helmets from Europe... presuming the safety regs maybe allow less foam and potentially a smaller shell if my size is borderline.

You can have that if you buy the cardo Sh01 system for the Neotech.

Thank you for watching the compare video!

Sorry.I have neotech 2 .The paint bubbled.The customer service doesn't reply.I had 3 schuber,never a problem.

They make a variety of pads. I assume it is cheaper to customize pads than manufacturer and maintain different shells.

You might want to read our recent Facebook post about safety and externally-fitted comms.. if you want to be sure that you are not compromising the primary function of a helmet, integrated is the way to go. CP

@@Motolegends Pure on safety i fully agree. Its a concession i personally make (its also a pretty easy break away point). After having several Sena systems with pretty much all just bad experiences Cardo is the way to go. (Which is lso pretty unanimously tought of as the best system)

Given that the full weight of your head and your body will normally be adding to the weight of the helmet in the event of an accident, the saving of 220g/300g. in its construction will usually make little difference in the event of an accident. The lightness can make a difference in terms of fatigue on the track, but on the road not so much. It also has to be borne in mind that carbon fibre doesn’t necessarily make for a more protective outer shell. Carbon shells are not necessarily stronger than composite ones; they are just lighter. CP

Yes, if all your mates use Cardo, then you can’t easily talk to them with a Sena set up; you are going to need Cardo, as the two systems don’t easily communicate with one another. There will be no difference in battery life between a Sena and a Cardo; my only point was, and is, that Mesh consumes more battery power than Bluetooth. I have never had a problem talking all day ‘on tour’ with my Sena, and for most people the same will apply to Sena’s Mesh system. This issue is not so much about a day out; the battery longevity is more about how often those who commute every day will have to re-charge their units. CP.