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- What if he was drafted by the Lakers - What if he stayed on the Raptors - What if he didn’t get injured during his prime - What if Tim Duncan signed with the Magic

This is what happens when a player end up at the wrong organization. Your career can be mismanaged

D Nice no Tmac left Toronto cuz he wanted his own team nd he was in Carters shadow. Then he said the weather is too cold. Lol. He went to his home town but Ghill was injured they would of had a 3rd wheel if he was healthy. Houston injuries was a prob nd couldnt pass a playoff round. Management was never a problem in his case, Pippen is right they NEED Grant

What if the Raptors drafted Steve Nash in '96 (instead of Camby) What if they never hired 2 of the dumbest & antagonizing coaches in the 90's: Darrell Walker, Butch Carter What if Grant Hill doesn't break his ankle What if Yao Ming doesn't struggle through an injury plagued career TMAC had a lot of what ifs -- but all he had to do was stay in Toronto; a major city with good fans, young team with a good draft & trade history (Stoudemire, Carter, Camby, TMac in first 4 drafts, with Doug Christie & Davis through lop-sided trades) and the other superstar is family...... too bad.

Management and coaching were the problem they made no moves after aquiring hill and mac they let mac burn himself out

For 12 million a year. lol

Top Dog that’s a bargain don’t know why everyone gets on Austin he’s not bad

Idiot, in this market you have people like Tristan Thompson making 20 mil a year. Chandler parsons with 100 mil contract. It’s not a bad contract at all. Don’t think a bum scores 16 ppg while shooting 40% + from 3 lol. Just saying a guy who’s nickname is “big baby” flamed him is a joke. Don’t think big baby is in the league rn lmao You clowns eat up anything the media dishes smh

The Great Rudini All facts 💯

+The Great Rudini Austin Rivers was a bum. Complete garbage and his dad gave him a contract and playing time and allowed to develop. You give any d-leaguer that change and they'll get better like Austin.

david will dumb ass doc rivers

If that happened magic would of took a chip from them.

Mark Lap not a chance lol

Mark Lap it would be interesting tho. But nah...

Vinnie Huish Im sorry, but I seem to remember a certain team from San Antonio winning over LA in the playoffs...And winning a chip. T Mac was an amazing player. If Duncan would have been on the Magic, no he wouldn't have had Pop, but is that really what made Tim Duncan? Are we not gonna give the dude himself credit? T Mac was a scorer on par with Kobe at that time. They very easily could have taken one of them from the Lakers. T Mac was hella clutch too. 13 points in 33 seconds, against the prime Manu, Timmy, and Tony years to win a game. Dudes a hof player for fucks sake!

Kevin Mumphrey hahaha

m1084 tmac never played why is he in the hall i dont get it

never played what? if you mean basketball your on the wrong channel

He was special, and still is special. And same goes to D.Rose. Injuries and health issues are an irreversible bitch to the physical and psychological state of mind. Your overall quality of life takes a big hit, and even if you do bounce back from it, you're still not the same old, but at best, a sightly lesser version of what you were.

HOF is a joke. So many guys who are in there for winning scoring titles on teams where they were the only option on offense. Never even play in the finals. I love Grant Hill but come on. Did he really have a hall of fame career? Did T-Mac have a hall of fame career? If Vince Carter ends up in the HOF I’ll laugh.

m1084 also his rookie year they wanted to trade him for pippen he would of played with mike

Kyrie Irving Chris smoove that’s a murder

Shot Clock Cheese!

😂😂😂

Give this guy a manual! What are you doing?!

doc rivers was leanin

Magic so messed up

NY Knicks have entered the chat group... Worst upper management eveeer😊

WHY? Doc has a title and 2 Finals appearances.

Emmanuel Enyinwa nah FUCK doc and his bum split eye looking ass

Thibs defensive schemes and the Celtics talent (KG) is what won that finals. Doc is trash.

Gucci Lee hahaha IKR. Next time he gets to the arena, security just takes his badge, rips it up, and escorts him back out.

Gucci Lee true that Thibs was so underatted it's not even funny. KG was also the true MVP of the celtics in 08.

Jerrick Ward this is what happens to a great player if he has bad luck. Sometimes you're really good but your career is mismanaged.

The worst luck possible is Greg Oden and many more.

Jerrick Ward 7. He almost won a chip if ray Allen didn't make that corner 3 in 2013

2 and 5 were his decisions. He wanted to get away from Toronto's organizational dysfunction in 2 and for 5. He got tired of losing and didn't want to go through a rebuild.

And he could’ve played on the Bulls with MJ but MJ axed that deal

No he doesn't....

Quite possibly the greatest PF of all-time. Bro... by the time Duncan was in his mid 20's he had already secured that place... firmly.

Tmac act like he never played with hof b4

Right at this point Timmy was coming off a NBA finals averaging 31 and 14 and was at his peak before his meniscus tear

@Adrian Flores you crazy, as much as i kg, he's not on Duncan's level. Every match up they had timmy always won.

Sareen Sidhu Adidas players that wear #1

Gotta put GH, Penny, Len Bias, Bill Walton, Ralph Sampson in that convo

Dennis Galabo nah

agreed

Brandon Roy

Dikembe Mutombo I been thinking same thing

Dikembe Mutombo i hear yo bro

Dikembe Mutombo That's nothing special it comes with the game

Giving you a thumbs up just because you Dikembe

Tmac's watch icy as well

shakeem robinson Watches shouldn't excite men

maybe its just you.. but give me any of those bling blings anytime of the day. ill gladly accept it.

@Raul Salazar someone call the fire department 😭😭😭😭😭

people who were born before 95' maybe but the rest of us dont know of these deals

Did pop mention that before?

Everybody mentioned it lol it was on ESPN for like 3 days straight. He went down to Orlando to meet with the team, even stayed an extra day, but ultimately ended up resigning with the Spurs. That was one time Pop came close to losing Duncan.

Yeah that had a funny story to it because he did go down to Orlando to check out the team and he did like it but he ended up resigning with the Spurs because he loved the culture he told pop I'm going to leave to Orlando and pop almost cried then Tim Duncan said nah I'm just kidding I would never leave and that was the day pop almost died lol

everybody knew they were close to sign him but dont know it was because of the plane policy from doc

Gregory Edwards he should've been a champion with the spurs. My favorite player growing up.

Jason Darrell to think he was tasting that that ring only to watch ray Allen hit the greatest pressure shot ever.... really the unluckiest player ever right to his last game. Smdh

Gregory Edwards for real. Guy was a same level scorer as kobe in his prime when they were competing. Great player

@@jasonredhorn87 knowing the competitive nature TMac had, he wouldn't have accepted that ring. He said in an interview that if the Spurs won that chip, he wouldnt acknowledge himself as a champion. He would be a champion in record books but of course, TMac without the injuries is a really great player. He'd feel like a champion by pity.

I would definitively buy it out of respect but never read it

Lol

Hahahaha subtitled "No, no, no... seriously?!?"

I remember tmac joined the spurs but lost to the heat then next year he retired then spurs won the title so unlucky 😆

😆😆😆😆😆😆

think what occured..they blew a 3-1 lead and then in 2004 they went 21-61 lol...t mac hated his time in Orlando...

Nah man, Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway are biggest what if.

@@rano2613 uh-hem… what about Len Bias?

Chris Ringer Watches shouldn't excite men

Mr. TIME BOMB! What ?

Scottie broke as fuck though. No secret that he pissed away all of his millions within a couple years of retiring. Brilliant basketball mind, but the rest of that mind never left Podunk, Arkansas.

mike s Stop making up shit stupid ass! Scottie's networth is somewhere in the range of 50-60 million dollars.... maybe you are confusing Denis Rodman with Scottie....either way get your facts straight before commenting

Lmaooo has to with how t Mac hit him with huh

Well harden hasn’t won shit so yeah passing up on a top 10 player all time is unthinkable.

1 Of The Watchmen yeah they got Kevin Martin who at the time was pretty good. Let’s not act like his debacle in the 2012 finals didn’t play a role in his trading either. Anyways, ibaka is who they should’ve moved in hindsight

How is that playing a role in his trade being stupid... Me stating things that actually happened is apparently me trying to make harden seem trash too lol foh he’s a well known choke artist as great as he is

The Great Rudini Why you so triggered at the mention of Harden LMAO

How am I triggered? Nothing I stated was false...too many dumb asses in one comment section

Samuel Teixeira why? He's still a HOFer, People won a ring but didn't make the Hall of Fame.

Me too TMAC deserves more respect I feel he's still underappreciated lol

don't be..

i dont...had he accepted playing with his cousin both their careers would of been special..kobe accepted playing with Shaq for 8 years...these 2 played 1 legit season together past t mac turning 19 aka getting playing time being mature for the game and then t macs like im out

Yep, no sympathy for T-mac because he chose to leave a winning situation. Should have stayed put with VC and made it to a few finals at least.

The Raptor coach is not using him right though.. They are not even in the duo talks in TR..

Yep. They easily would have made the finals in one of the following 2-3 years.

Not to forget they are cousins

This is the Carter two ball hoggers dont work out plus they're related

They were done by then anyways 😊

Thomas forde The Knicks had a chance to get Kareem but they let him go to the Lakers. So there's the other contestant for dumbest move.

This comment aged poorly. Dude became a drunken rant machine on live tv interviews.

Theman tim duncan did anyway so idm

Nah no way without Grant Hill....Kings, Lakers, Blazers, Pistons, Nets, Pacers were all stacked in early 00s....C`mon Prime Scalabrine and JKidd

Theman they need Grant Hill lol

Tim Duncan didn't even need another all-star during multiple times he won rings. Most notably in 2003, when he took one of the weakest teams ever to a ring; dismantling the Shaq/Kobe Lakers virtually by himself in the process.

@@Turk_2023 you must be kidding right?

Pistons were a great team from that era in the East. They destroyed a team with Prime Shaq and Kobe on it, to go along with Karl Malone and Gary Payton. Basically a superteam.

@Adrian Flores they could edge it out, remember that the early 2000's, Tracy was considered the most versatile SG, pair with TD, a guy that should've won atleast 2 DPOY's, was the only player i know besides hakeem where he held his own against Shaq.

Duncan, T-Mac AND GHILL, don't forget. IF those 3 were injury free, they could've won at least 1 ring.

@Adrian Flores Bruh, TD has shown that he can take on Shaq defensively and dominate him offensively. Kobe is a better defender than Tracy, but Tracy edges him out in offence in my opinion. It would have been a great battle, but having arguably the greatest defensive player ever on your team would have given Tracy a definite 2 piece

Pippen clearly isn't thinking very clearly.

by summr of 04 they had za za bogans giricek and deshawn steveson so ..it worked out wrll2 for them lol....Jesus Christ..no wonder why the magic from 2000-2007 sucked hard

Hebrew Israelite or hired by the Knicks, whichever is worse.

The Knicks?! that man has a family yo.

Rodness _ he made over 60 million coach n player he's good n he paid his son

dbreiden83080 and at the end of the day it all comes down to coach pop and his system the year Duncan retired they still won 60 games the New Jersey Nets and the Detroit Piston still would have been going to the finals even if Duncan was with the magic

dbreiden83080 I agree but grant hill would've guaranteed the rings

krlm2280 T-MAC had the Pistons 3-1 BY HIMSELF !!! w/ a WASHED UP SHAWN KEMP !!! if he had DUNCAN they would have been in the FINALS almost EVERY YEAR!

dbreiden83080 bruh Scottie was saying that because T Mac was injury prone and also Shaq And Kobe at that time were unstoppable so no I think he knows what he’s talking about.

He was not injury prone until he got to the Rockets and still balled there..

Like I said to someone else we should make it a holiday in San Antonio and call it "Doc Rivers appreciation day" lol

Tehui1974 stop.

With those 2 together, if they worked well, it was possible. There was a lot of discord towards the end of the Shaq and Kobe era. The Spurs beat them in '03, the Pistons were able to do it in '04 and the Kings nearly did so as well in that controversial series in '02. After the 16-1 run, they weren't so unbeatable anymore.

Tehui1974 yeah, but a prime T-Mac and Duncan could’ve been a problem for them.

Well Spurs did sweep Lakers in 99' sooooo.....

Duncan obliterated the Shaq/Kobe Lakers in 2003 virtually by himself. Give him a true superstar to partner with like McGrady and it's wrap for the Shaq/Kobe Lakers.

John M Flores and 6 rings

Sure. And Michael Jordan wears dad jeans.

flee gang No

The New Jersey Nets team with Jason Kidd RJ Kmart Kittle's would still made the finals and the Pistons would have still been the top team during that era

flee gang You're high...

They would have had a chance to. I think most people will think this is crazy, but how crazy is it really? Duncan never played with another true superstar. I guess you could argue for Leonard in Duncan's final seasons, but Duncan was 40 years old then. The point is, Duncan won 5 rings, and should have been 6, with a cast of characters that I would venture to say even Jordan wouldn't bring to those 5 rings.

I agree C Webb should've been in hof already but he n T Mac wasn't just a reg season player.

Chris never made it to the finals. . .

3 Time First Round Exit you mean wcf ?

IMO, Webber is not a hall of fame player. In your opinion, why do you think he is? There were consistently 3-4 power forwards better than him when he was actually in his prime. With the Kings, experienced former players-turned commentators, poked holes in C-Webb's game, stating that he didn't have a go-to move, nor enough offensive moves on the low block. He was a fantastic passer, and a good ball-handler for his size, but he did not possess the mental prowess/toughness to lead a team to the title...the evidence? He never did. The NBA HOF puts good players in and not just elite players, so he will probably get in...but undeservedly so. The standards should be raised, but looks like they are being lowered. Losing in the conference finals a time or two doesn't mean you should get in the HOF.

T-Mac is debatable as well. But, he was an elite scorer at one time. He was compared favorably to Kobe, but beneath all the showmanship, Kobe was actually a lot more fundamentally sound, and mentally, McGrady can not be compared to Kobe. T-Mac led the league in scoring a few times, and I think he was all-NBA a few times. He maybe should have been a candidate, but should not have gotten in in his first year of eligibility. First year eligibility should be reserved for cats like Kobe, Duncan, Lebron, and even Steph. Theses guys are all time greats and multiple champions. Non champions should not get in in their first eligible year....period.

I'm definitely thankful he screwed the pooch on that one lol we should make that day a holiday in San Antonio and call it "Doc Rivers appreciation day" lol

Foh never

Inm Mmmh Yes

Lol

Nope neva

Jesus Christ easily

J Johnson what shade?

J Johnson truth is tho without pippen there is NO Jordan

I thought I'm the biggest LeBum Hater...I can't find any videos to pour on my daily dose of hate...But you..somehow...hahaha !!!

Whatever western conference that LeBron would (hypothetically) join immediately makes THAT team at least the 2nd-best in the conference, pure & simple.

Omar najeeb He should join the Kings then. Lmao

this comment did not age well at all....hold this L fam

hahahahaha

Even during that time, people didn't appreciate Duncan, mostly because of his personality and him playing the game fundamentally and not high flying.