I don't make videos like this often, so hopefully you enjoy! I'm an Adobe Premier Pro novice but learned A LOT during the 2 weeks it took me to make this. I appreciate everyone for taking time to watch and comment!
Get rid of the difficulty levels and let the game progress the golfer as your skill increases, from beginner to true sim. And for the love of God, fix the handicap system.
Tremendous video. If 2K implements 2K25 half as well as this video is constructed, we will be in good shape. Great service to the community you legend.
Wow i never even understood how out of sync the swing/power meter animations were but it makes me feel less crazy. Another pet peeve: Create a toggle that allows us to turn off cut scenes for our rivals. I don't need to watch countless chip shots from my rivals that magically go in the hole 75% of the time.
HOLY SH*T!!! OMG dude, 2K needs to hire you NOW to help develop!! Not kidding at all, these are some fantastic ideas (especially at the end!!!) ! And that TOWER tournament idea??? What an awesome video with some wonderful ideas that I would pay double for if they were implemented. I have ALWAYS said for as long as I've played video game golf, that any shots from rough and sand should have an element of randomness, (proportional to the lie severity). It's not a difficult concept, I have NO idea why games don't implement that. For decades, rough has had virtually no effect. And that Tower Tournament idea??? Absolute 🔥🔥🔥 !!!!!
This was an excellent video and honestly almost ALL of your ideas were great suggestions. Challenges and some ways to maximize the single player experience are TOP for me.
1.) Next Gen Graphics - This alone is a strong deterrent for many to purchase the game in the first place. While I mainly care about gameplay this would obviously be really cool to have and simply should be a reasonable ask in 2024. 2.) Drop Zones - While this doesn't help them increase sales at launch it certainly will help retain replayability. Not only is it a critical component to the game of golf it shouldn't be why people rage quit either. 3.) Licensing - While it is likely a pipe dream to have all of the official licenses including Augusta it is one of the very few things EA has over 2k and without the legit majors, the career mode feels foolis. Honestly if they cant obtain the licenses might as well throw in the towel on career mode and focus dev hours elsewhere. 4.) Physics - the "sticky" fringes and physics situations are just infuriating, obviously some are amplified by conditions that arent meant for certain courses but take East Lake for example... unplayable at the toughest settings, that shouldnt be the case. 5.) Ability to Use Pros in Any Mode - Let me use Tiger or whoever I want in a society mode. So what if he is the most used person, in theory your my player should be able to have better attributes or attributes that would be similar. It would be a lot of fun actually using the pros in ranked or societies or anything other than the standard local match. There are too many pros in the game for them to be criminally underutilized.
Love the list! there was one additional thing I ended up leaving off of the MyCareer Section, that was we should be able to play as any of the golfers in MyCareer. If I want to play as Tiger in MyCareer, then let me play as Tiger. It's not hurting anyone. Thanks so much for watching!
A very well made and thorough video. I agree with many of your points. One other thing I will add though: different kinds of ranked modes. So, for example, something like one mode on pro settings, one mode on master settings, and another on true TGC settings. Maybe even a rotating mode every couple weeks, like firm and fast course settings only, or registered custom courses only. And, obviously, separation of 3-Click and Swing Stick, to beat a horse that's long dead and in the glue factory.
Thanks for watching! I like your idea but I get concerned if we are splitting the population of the online community with too many playlists. In the video I mention making an "Online" or "Ranked" difficulty thatis a mix of Pro+Master settings, to avoid splitting the pool of players while also making it be more difficult and testing skills. But yes, if population isn't a concern then having different queues for different difficulty levels is a great alternative. I would love a Master Ranked playlist for instance. Appreciate you watching and commenting!
@@Seamount4Life that's a very fair point. I'm really not sure if the population could withstand splitting like that. I just see it like EA's ranked mode, where multiple playlists exist. Your idea of a mixed Pro/Master ranked mode would be a lot of fun, as there are aspects of both difficulties that would work well. However, testing it out wouldn't be a bad idea right now in 2K23 if that is feasible; hopefully, it could give HB an idea of what could work in ranked in 2K25.
@@emfarce The split I would want is the swing stick split from 3-click. So then further splitting those into different difficulties is where my main concern would be, which is why I recommended the "Ranked" difficulty as a middle ground. So basically 2 pools for solo, 2 pools for Duos using the "Ranked" difficulty. If you start splitting those pools more I would wonder if that would eventually become a problem. Of course with crossplay, maybe that isn't an issue at all. And in that case, having a swing stick Pro and Master queue, AND a 3-Click Pro and Master queue is probably the best solution. I would also be open to maybe a seasonal rotation of modes/queues too, just to test things out. Honestly, they probably should be doing that now in PGA2K23 to see how the data looks.
@@Seamount4Life Crossplay is what makes me believe the Pro and Master lobbies for 3-Click and Swing Stick separately would work. If they can test that out in 2K23 before 2K25 drops, that'd be amazing.
100% agree the game was never tested without the swing meter or on higher setting....1)Hole flyovers back 2)if there is a course designer give back courses by designer feature 3)No fictional courses in career mode just real courses or give up on career mode and give back custom single player mode 4)Popstroke is a must for 2k25 with proper physics just a shame mini golf just does not play great in 2k23 5)just a personal one this one when 80% of the time it gives you pitch shot from 130-140 please can you remove that option. Outstanding video hopefully its not to late in the day to get your idea's in game.
Thanks for watching Yeltzy! Yeah, there's a few items I ended up not having in the video and you hit on a couple of them. Flyovers, More by Designer, and the suggesting pitches over 90yds constantly thing. I will tell you that these are items that are talked about a lot in the NM feedback channel we have. So they definitely know those are pain points from us. Not sure if they will fix or change it, but they have heard us. The others Would be Replay Cams, and the putter follow Cam being blocked on R to L putts.
yeah, I am not 100% sure what is happening under the hood for calibration so I am not sure how much using different clubs would help. That being said, Adding a way to reset calibration or maybe have it be more transparent in what it is doing would be a nice addition in 2K25.
@@Seamount4Life 100% - I learned from the 2K21 to not even touch the calibration this year.. I'd rather just struggle with minor inconsistencies than have to constantly chance the calibration & recalibration.
The biggest one for me is majors man. Its just another vibe going in to 4 rounds of the masters. AND i hope they add practice rounds and range sessions for just the four majors. Would be so cool
Good video Seamount my biggest hopes for the new game are mainly for online Ranked 3 click separated (for the love of god) even though I was told just to get better at swing stick and there's no issue with 3 click. You know who you are. Ranking points not stopping at 1200 they should just go on and on and on Different difficulty levels as you progress through the ranks similar to MLB The Show OR a separate playlists for Pro, Master and Legend Make it easier to drop points it was far too easy to keep gaining More courses in the rotation with random settings not just the same green speeds every time Ranked stroke play with multiple players on course like EA and not just match play
Yeah, I like your points too. having the difficulty level change as you increase rank is a great idea. Tough to get a perfect answer on ranked because ideally you have a bunch of queues to get exactly what people want, but splitting your player base too much can cause population issues. So it is a tough balance. This suggestion is a great "best of both worlds" though.
dam good video. I loved all the detailed explanations for each topic, I highly agree with adding 2 different lobbies in ranked for 3 click/swing stick. Also the different aspects from EA Pga Tour coming to 2k25 would be a big win, from graphics to physics. Challenges and new things for career and such is also a W idea lol. Great job with this, love all your streams/vids. Keep it up. Cheers
@@Seamount4Life alot of people are unaware of this and would assume alot of the 100% accuracy ranked players and +18 handicapers in societies are 3 clickers or genuine swing stick users. this is incorrect, some players are using a hack, the hack is you can use a mouse to swing stick on the PC., players can then move the mouse to the far right of the screen where it cant move any further and get 100% accuracy each time as it will just be straight up and down as the mouse cant move right any more so you go up and down in a right motion id imagine and have been advised. , its more of a problem then 3 clickers in this game as they can atleast make an error on occasions. its completely unfair and cheating but nothing can be done if a mouse can be used for swing stick. any society will likely have these users. i was unaware of the issue until i had a conversation with someone i played in rank who was going eagle/birdie/eagle/eagle and i was like "surely your a 3 clicker" as everything was 100% straight. he replied with " no i use mouse with swing stick hack". swing stick with a mouse needs to be banned and a swing stick needs to be R3 on a controller only In my opinion to remove anyone exploiting this hack. if 2k25 allows mouse users to swing stick, this problem will still exist everywhere besides TGC ( i believe TGC can tell?) people will say " but they still need to have perfect timing" but, after watching someone score -13 in 9 holes using this hack , the timing is perfect. apparently a well subscribed youtuber that plays the game was also court out using the mouse hack and deleted many videos proving this but i can recall the redit post, i hope this makes sense :) it should definently be a high priority. no mouse swing stick option
Good video. It would be so great to have a Broadcaster feature, where you could host a tournament or competition for let's say a Match ladder tournament where you can go anywhere on the course in god mode while streaming during said tournament, similar to PUBG as a Broadcaster. I would love that.
I love this idea! Especially having a tournament bracket! Maybe add a tournament tab to your society menu and run it through there? Let's go ahead and officially add that idea to my tournaments section of the video! haha
we need - a time clock on putting .....less time the higher difficulty you are .......and no chipping on the green ! also let the player choose tee placement from left to right vise versa .
Yeah, the clock can get annoying in Ranked especially when your opponent is purposefully running it down each hole. And yes! Love the idea on picking tee shot location. This is something I've shared with them on internal channels as a NextMaker, so I forgot to add it to the video. Thanks for watching and commenting 🍻
Gameplay is pretty great, like it much more than ea surprisingly. Not enough unlockables though unless u buy the battle pass. That’s the main thing for me. Also more customization options are always good to add. Including different swing animation types.
I like all your ideas, your presentation was so very well prevented. My only concern is that HB Studios are incapable of making most of your ideas come to be incorporated in 2k25. I agree that the unity engine needs to be improved greatly. I also would like the servers to be fixed. Thanks for taking the time to make this video is was very informative. Bigdaddyhack13
Thanks! Appreciate you watching and thanks for the feedback. Hopefully I got this video out in enough time for it to make an impact! I'm not sure where they are at in the Dev Cycle. Cheers!
we need satellite imagery import for designer. also lidar. this way we can make accurate real life golf courses. number 1 on my list. i have a dozen or so other adds that would bring things to the next level.
love the details in this video. i want a better functioning swing mechanic and a true sim ranked mode among other things. the gameplay is so much better than ea only if the graphics where that good....
This is the best wish list video for this game I’ve watched so far. I would add one more game mode and it would be a Ryder Cup mode that gives you the option to create your team v an AI or the online mode where you can create teams with your friends to play against them and it counts the points just as it would if you were playing the Ryder Cup. This mode could be incorporated into Career mode where you hope to make the team to play say the 2K Cup at the end of the year. The other is similar to your tournament mode but it would be a bracket setup like March Madness. Great stuff, ❤a lot of the ideas especially game modes!!
Appreciate it! Would also love the Ryder Cup to be added along with AI Golfers. Hoping they get some of that in place for 2K25, then maybe get full Ryder Cup licensing and integration in 2K27. Thanks for watching and commenting 🍻
All they have to do is isask the guys who made true swing from the old Tiger Woods games you could use a mouse and curve it at will was fantastic for shaping shots shots and pulling off fancy shots
Thank you. I don’t use the power meter or the shot preview, relying just on the avatar’s swing and hole map. I want to feel like I’m playing from the player’s perspective and would welcome a 1:1 swing from the golfers eye view, which PGA 2000 had 25 years ago. I was a little disappointed that you didn’t mention much needed improvements to the course designer. I mostly use 2K23 for the course designer, which is good but could be so much better given just a little work. One small niggle that really bugs me is the fact that we have to have the fairway mow lines running in one direction on the entire course. I want to be able to choose which direction the mow lines run, which for aesthetic reasons, would be down the fairway not across. I have a whole list of things that would improve the designer but I doubt 2K would be open to taking suggestions from users.
I know it’s probably impossible but I’d really just like every tour pro and every course/event. And rotations of courses in the majors. Hell, add the Korn Ferry tour and players too.
Yeah having the actual licensed events and courses for all of career mode is the dream. Hopefully getting the Majors is a possibility for 2K25, then we can go from there. I do love having a great course design community to help fill in the gaps on the fictional events, and being able to swap courses is nice for variety, although still limited to official courses. Thanks for watching and commenting 🍻
Great video! In relation to your comments on elevation, I like the setting you can have in EA PGA, where you're given just an arrow showing if it's up- or downhill, and then the color of the arrow indicates a general idea of how much the elevation is - for example, a 50-foot downhill shot has a red arrow pointing down, or a 15 foot uphill shot has a yellow arrow pointing up. EA does that with wind, too, and I prefer that to 2K's wind speed indicator as well.
@@Seamount4Life Imagine complaining about math in a videogame. I get it, you guys like the idea of making long putts to win a match but let's be real people will figure out how to math vagueness anyways. With everything but vibration turned off I still see people always making shots within 15ft of the hole. With math on that simply means it's 5ft from the hole instead of 15. This issue is usually between 3click players (tieing every hole until one messes up or playoff hole) but there's rare few swing-stickers who play so well that they end up in the same boat. The math is about accessibility. Making a game unapproachable makes it less fun for the average joe. In case you've been under a rock, PGA 2k23 is dying community-wise. There's hardly any players on quick/head to head or 2v2 etc. Societies keep alive but they've dwindled as well. What makes 2k23 stand out is how different societies are. You have some tryhard/inaccessible (literally, my controller doesn't have vibrate so I actually need the swing meter on) TGC tours for "the best of the best". Then you have something like 2k23 official, which is more for people who are new or don't play often and then complain about 3clicking or cheating when in reality they're just incompetent in comparison. That brings me to the biggest issue in 2k23, which is the community itself. It's one of the most toxic playerbases in such a calm environment i've ever seen.
@@ardeof Thanks for watching. Lots to unpack here. Sure, math adds to accessibility. I am not saying remove all the math from the game, that is impossible. I am saying I would like them to add options to make the math less precise, mainly for the higher difficulty levels or for the higher end players as an option. This game has 6 difficulty levels, so it already has a ton of accessibility for all skill levels plus multiple ways to swing. I am just asking for more options to have even more control over how we can play. The societies are one of the best features in the game and I agree with your breakdown of those offering varying levels and styles of play that allows you to join and compete in the ones you choose, or run your own the exact way you like it. Again, I am just advocating for more options, more choices so we can all play the way we want. I don't want to remove things from the game, especially for lower end/casual players. As for the community comment, the game is almost 2 years old that has more to do with dwindling player numbers than any sort of community toxicity that you claim. I'd argue that the community is the reason numbers are as high as they are. Is it perfect? of course not. There will always be bad pockets of people, just like in every community but the good far outweigh the bad from what I have seen.
@@Seamount4Life idk like 20% of quickplay (3 hole matches) is people complaining or intentionally wasting time by driving it while on the green because they lost by a mile.
what a great list of things and I agree with you 100% on all of these things! Here my are top wishlist items 1. Next-Gen Graphics - Better Unity Graphics or if possible, they migrate to Unreal Engine 5! (while doing a engine change, I know that means they will have to start everything from scratch and same goes for course designers, but I think it look awesome on the Unreal Engine! probably won't beat EA's Engine but still a huge improvement) 2. More in-depth Career Mode - can choose to play with any pro you want or created player, can fully customize Schedule since they have no licenses to any of the majors (change name of tournament & swap courses for any course in the game (2K Offical or User Created) for every non-sponsor tournament, including the fictional majors), complete different objectives in each tournament, across a whole season, and for your sponsors for in-game currency 3. myPlayer - have Face Scan Feature (NBA 2K has this feature), more customization options (style, color, etc.) and Real Branding for apparel, golf bag and caddie and less tacky items!! 4. More Pros (including Historic) and Less Celebrity golfers! - if there is one request for celebrity golfers I would love for them to add Happy Gilmore (with his iconic swing) and Shooter McGavin into the game and heck, even add Chubbs into the game as well. Yeah they are fictional/kind of celebrity but still, it would stand out for sure to EA and the actor of McGavin (Chris McDonald) has been advertising this Franchise since 2K21 so I don't see why it can't get done, even if it is paid DLC! 5. Remove Top Golf and replace it with Challenges/Historic Moments mode - when you win them, you earn in-game currency, unlock new golfers to use in Regular stroke play or MyCareer (like the historic golfers), apparel, clubs, etc. Here's another one I would like as well Dynamic Weather and Time for all courses and for the real courses, maybe include a Live weather option (the Live weather feature may be far fetch and take a lot of work but it would be very cool if they can do it and Having a Mini-golf mode would be awesome to add, especially if they add Happy, Shooter, and maybe even Chubbs into the game!! to relive and play just like from the scene in the movie
Love the list!!! I'd be good with a switch to UE5 as well, but I think it would take a couple dev cycles to do, so 2K27 or 2K29 before that happened. Thanks for watching!
i also would like to see different putting grips like arm lock that would be really cool sponsorship challenges and obviously mentioned different shot type.Defintely a lot more hair styles and just better clothing and career mode saves its annoying to only have one like I took a break from the game and just had the urge to start another career.Also like some type of story like in f1 break point or even have an option to follow some type of story like the newer WWE games
More shot types and realistic short game play is my biggest wish. Stingers, real knock downs, and spinners should be in the game. I get they want to do it through the shot modifier but it doesn't actually let you hit the shots you need to hit for certain situations. I've always said with this game, especially since the PGA Tour license, you're supposed to be a pro golfer, you should be able to play the shots that pros play.
Yeah, I love the shot types in EAs game! I think a combination of 2Ks swing with EAs shot types would be pretty rad. Then limit the access to them with the MyPlayer skills or stats or something so you couldn't use all of them. Force people to pick and choose based on build.
To get around the licensing issues, could they not have something like NBA 2K where the career mode can be fully customizable and community generated (importable) like all players past, current and future rookies. Then we could just generate our own season how we want.
Would like to see they add "GameFace" into the my player customization. As they have that system in the NBA 2K23 or similar series. That would be cool! And the course designer is an absolute great idea, to let people made their own courses! I loved a lot of the beautiful, sometimes crazy courses, let me always coming back to this series. Give the designers more and better tools and maybe let them implement custom assets. And for the people who are not a designer, but love to play the courses of your favourite designers, PLEASE add a filter "course by designer" when you are looking for courses.
I would love the game face thing! I remember doing that on NBA2K a couple years ago and it was great. And yeah, I don't talk about the designer in my video, but it is the heartbeat of this game/community, so anything they can do to improve it would be welcomed. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Well presented Seamount, In addition it would be nice if they could make mouse play somewhat accurate for those of us who are controller-phobic as well as fixing the handicap system so it makes some sense. Cheers!
Good video Just subscribed. I agree with everything you mentioned. Another thing too besides custom swing animations are custom celebrations or negative reactions. For example if I sink a 40 footer for birdie I'd like the option of my animation afterwards to be stoic .. or celebratory. Just a thought.
@@Seamount4Life Another thing in my opinion that's immersion breaking in the mycareer mode is LPGA tour players leading and winning PGA tour events. No disrespect to the Ladies but perhaps some sort of LPGA tour mode.
Yeah, having more courses in the ranked pool would be great. Even just another 3-4 courses added would make a big difference. Thanks for watching and commenting 🍻
I don't play with the power meter on either, but the out of sync animation with the start of the power meter is a bigger problem for people like us. Thanks for watching and commenting 🍻
Can i add if there are going to be real courses can they add Real Time weather Winds rain etc and if there is improved physics courses would play different every time.
I would like to see the ability that when you create an avatar as a guest that you could make them a CPU player to play with you or against you, I like to make my friends avatars that look like my friends went through the hassle of making one and 2K 23 to find out that you can’t make them CPU players. I’ve had other golf games that you can make CPU players on your own, so please bring this back.
im not sure if you added this, maybe i missed it, but what is your thoughts on players using Swing stick with a mouse moving it to the side of the screen basically cheating. many players do this and swing stick with a mouse needs to be removed from the game. anyone against this is a cheat
Whilst I enjoyed the video for the most part, the 1 big issue I have is the whole drop the prev generation of consoles, yes I get why, but as one of the casual brigade that plays the game for fun, and not TGC Tours etc I would think that this would be a mistake. I know that eventually there will come a time where this will happen, but until that does why cut off a large percentage of your active playing base? As a prev generation owner, just because the new launch maybe next gen only is not going to force me to rush out and buy one....just my honest personal thoughts
EA owns the exclusive rights to the majors, so there will be no major tournaments in the next 2K game. The best they could do is to just get the major courses in the game, or use previous hosts as stand ins.
They do now, I am hoping that by the time PGA2K25 launches that changes. Augusta/Masters may be a long shot, but the others could be getable. Not sure how those licenses work, or when they expire.
@@Seamount4Life I highly doubt EA would’ve only secured the license long enough for just one game. 2K will not have access to the majors for a long time
Nothing official has been announced, but they've made golf games every 2 years since 2014 so I'd be shocked if one isn't coming in the next 3-9 months. Thanks for watching!
@@Seamount4Life I knew it was a seperate title lol didn't word my comment very well sorry. Can you imagine the speed and fluidity of the Golf+ VR experience with the gfx and gameplay of PGA 2K25. Take my money.
@@Seamount4LifeI'm the same, Its the darn designer i need, i've built all my local courses with Lidar for 2K2019 \ 21 \ 23 but to be able to play them in VR would be a total game changer. It's a shame the designer in TGC VR isn't compatable with the later titles.
I like this list, seamount, one thing I would add is to remove balls and skills/fittings from ranked, or give everyone the same, I feel like ranked should be an even playing field.
I don't agree with making everyone play the exact same clubs/distances. This is how TGC1and TGC2 worked. And while it was more fair, it wasn't as interesting since everyone was just hitting the exact same shots all the time. Its also not how PGA Tour works in real life. I think they can keep everything, as long as they are balanced and executed better than in 2k23. Thanks for watching and commenting 🍻
