I just want to tell the two of you that you ARE WORTHY! You ARE GOOD people! And you ARE BOTH sooo blessed to have each other! I cried when Sean cried at the guilt they put upon him.....I had lived that too! John, you NAILED it with the guilt and control brainwashing games that the church puts upon its people! I’m DONE with it! NO ONE has that right to do that to other people’s psyche! I was one to tell the truth too, and it cost me DEARLY! That church can keep its liars.....I’m out of there!
MrNashtyone ......Don't twist words. The church presents lessons and in general will treat people in such a way as to imply you just are not good enough.....and one begins to wonder what's wrong with themself. It's a mind screw and a half! It's an mind control program! I KNOW how hard I work at being 'good' and 'worthy'. Yet they always make one feel that they are filthy still. I don't have a 'guilty conscience', I have a VERY CLOSE relationship with Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and they know where my heart is......they know my efforts. I know of a lot of things that are going on in the church. I have finally 'woke up' to the game. If anyone is 'filthy still', it's them. You don't know me or the things I have seen and been through. You don't know all of the 'stink' I see in the church. You can remain blind....it's your choice. But leave others to their choice to wake up and leave. You blind ones are always saying; "You can leave the church, but you can't leave it alone!" Since I have left, I have been prodded, harassed, and bothered by members of the church who can't/won't LEAVE ME ALONE! If they feel so free to pick at me, then turn about fair play! They started it! I have told some nice ladies I knew in my ward that I'm just 'working through some things'....but they keep prying! I have told them that I just don't want to say anything that would hurt them....or them hurt me back in response......but they keep persisting! I don't want to be the catalyst for their own faith crisis by telling them about the things I have found out. I wouldn't wish this painful process on anyone! So I have been making one excuse after another to not have to tell them anything.......but they still keep at me! I had a dream recently, and in the dream I was told to tell them if they keep wanting to know. So next time....I WILL! And if they don't like what they hear, then they should have left it alone as I had told them many times to! So whenever I hear that stupid phrase; "You can leave the church, but you can't leave it alone!" I beg to differ! It's the church that can't leave others alone! The people in it are brainwashed to harass those who decide to leave!
My husband was born and raised in the church. I was not. He was the black sheep. I met him and we married in Vegas within 4 weeks. I converted. We are both out of the church now. We are even stronger. We are complete soul mates. Completely. We are now going on 21 years.YOU BOTH are simply amazing people. Anyone would be honored to have you in their lives.
On my mission I had a companion that used to cry himself asleep because of “infidelity” even though he confessed to the bishop still felt unworthy. This guilt and shame the church puts on you is so harmful and just wrong ! Let the guilt go.
Omg so right about the voice people use. BTW Sean was a great person on his mission. He made a difference for those who had trouble sitting still in Sacrament and who felt othered by the church. Nice to see how much he has overcome and triumphed over in the years since. You make a beautiful couple.
These are some difficult episodes to watch. Seeing Sean remembering how hard he tried to be perfect and get validation from a toxic system that is designed to make him feel unworthy is heart breaking. His genuine emotion when he says that he realized the atonement didn't work for him, and he will carry his scarlet letter forever, has got a lump in my throat! I'm so glad they are out now. It's so sad he spent even a moment feeling guilt for innocently being a human being. You both deserve better.
Their analogy of meeting themselves, the way they see it all, fantastic! Infrastructure to figure out who you are and find meaning and purpose, exactly!! Going on a quest for more meaning!
What a wonderful couple🤣super honest and super funny! The world has 2 tipes of sinners:1 .the ones who say"sorry" and are forgiven. 2. The sinners who denied their sins and never get the chance of being forgiven by God because he never said "sorry" because his arrogance. Jesus loves you guys and the bible has all the answers for all the questions in life😊 Once you say "forgive me Father for my sin" God is good and forgives you straight away! God bless you guys!!!
It wasn't God who saw them as "unworthy" it was men. Flawed, human men. We are all sinners. God forgave them. It was the Mormon church who didn't. Right on about the "hiding stuff" comment! It's probably mind blowing how many there are. How dare they ask about your sexual experiences! Creeper...
I feel so very sorry for people who believe the crazy teachings of this church. Talk about being brain washed! I was born and raised in a small Mormon town and believe me, there was plenty of pre-marital sex going on (even in the dark corners of the ward). How they can continue to perform their callings, etc. and still have to pay tithing to be worthy, is beyond me. I think their dream of a celestial kingdom will all be in vain.
And of course the vast majority think that they’re on the right path. Who would hold a belief they didn’t believe in? It’s only the moment when you have a different want that you change your belief (want)...Then you’re wanting the “right” things again... until you change it again.
@@MrNashtyone I actually went back to church after being disfellowshipped (that's why I was meeting with the bishop, to try to get my life in order). This was a long time ago and I've since come to the conclusion that the church isn't true and was unhealthy for me as well.
37:07 don’t forget that once you “re-sin” all of the previous sins come back on your head because if you had truly repented then you would have never committed the same sin. (That’s my understanding from what I was taught). I’m guessing that is the reasoning behind why she was off the hook more than him.
It’s really hard not to like Sean 😂😭😭. He’s a big baby. The church is so damn evil! I’m so glad these two survived the shame and false truth of this crazy church. I wish there were laws against abuse like this. The LDS church should be held accountable for their actions! I was mormon for a year at 21 (15 years ago) and still have many mormon friends. I don’t know what they really think about me... I’m supposed to go ride bikes tomorrow with the friend that got me into the church! I haven’t seen him in years. I looked up to him like an idol. They’re all very active members. I really want to speak with them about things but I know people have to find their own convictions. I wish I could help them, but even if I could, I know by “helping” them to know the truth would rip their families apart! I could never do that to someone. Religion is poison! It’s like an opiate too. It can make you feel so high and so low. It’s supposed to be of the most importance, and your life and eternal wellbeing depends on it. It’s such psychological abuse... I feel so deeply about active Mormons that I know can’t get help or will never find it. I just hope they’re truly happy. Ignorance is bliss in that case. But so many have to be hiding in miserable shame and depression.
Religion absolutely does this intentionally! They create the problem and then “they” are the only ppl who have the cure! That is religion. It was made my man to keep others repressed and in line!!
