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@MaLV_01
@MaLV_01 3 месяца назад
Thanks blizzard my guild and my raid roster will never recover from this god damn phase.
@neoikake
@neoikake 3 месяца назад
Same. We had 4 teams. Now we have issue getting one.
@holyapple9145
@holyapple9145 3 месяца назад
Same, my guild fell apart. no challenge, nothing to do, and nothing to look forward to. Not even generic we are working on some cool pvp or pve content. herp derp, well 60 is coming and you will have MC and BWL coming.. or wait was it even BWL it may have been just ony.. again..
@Loe7
@Loe7 3 месяца назад
lol went through 2 guilds, and currently watching my 3rd crumble. This week will be the first week without a raid going on. They held out for a while tbh.
@GowtuGames
@GowtuGames 3 месяца назад
This is the first phase i found a guild that actually raids my niche late night time and its going strong. They had to recruite ppl for 20 man, i would not have found this guild if not for 20 man raids lol. funny how that works.
@RonOnTheWay
@RonOnTheWay 3 месяца назад
They need to communicate a lot more. Otherwise I could put a lot of work on something that is going to be changed.
@mattjharrisyahoo
@mattjharrisyahoo 3 месяца назад
I play SOD daily. Active population has dropped radically. I haven't been off Layer 1 for about 3 weeks.
@MikeyPaper
@MikeyPaper 3 месяца назад
Its over. Really....
@OMGiTzSpAnKy
@OMGiTzSpAnKy 3 месяца назад
I haven't seen more then 1,000 concurrent players on my server a few weeks
@mattjharrisyahoo
@mattjharrisyahoo 3 месяца назад
Later yesterday I did get to Layer 2 for about an hour or so
@shifterashtongue2684
@shifterashtongue2684 3 месяца назад
Living flame eu is full on both sides active 24/7, any activities you can imagine, if you log say LFG DPS and you dont get in group, dont come here to tell us the game is dead
@shifterashtongue2684
@shifterashtongue2684 3 месяца назад
@@highguycomics3869 its not dead but YOU SAY you have nothing to do COMPAIRING to say retail, you just dont like the game, i have 20 days played at 50 and i still have endless things to do
@HelloJTello
@HelloJTello 3 месяца назад
I'm with ya on this brodi, I think this next phase is gonna knock it out the park! and I cannot wait to be grinding SOD once again because it's truly one of the best moments in gaming for me in a long time. Much luv to ya & LOCK IT IN 🔒
@TheComebackKids
@TheComebackKids 3 месяца назад
🐐
@RobRIPDG
@RobRIPDG 3 месяца назад
Youre in the minority. Youll get a influx, the SoD hype is fkn dead
@palmenable
@palmenable 3 месяца назад
@@RobRIPDG SEATTLE DOWN! we just LOCKED IT IN!
@shifterashtongue2684
@shifterashtongue2684 3 месяца назад
@@RobRIPDG you say you left but you didnt, please leave
@kidbengala8362
@kidbengala8362 3 месяца назад
I am highly invested in SoD, but expecting ppl to comeback is a bit of cope atm.
@MikeyPaper
@MikeyPaper 3 месяца назад
Its over. Its dead. Its time to move on now....
@shifterashtongue2684
@shifterashtongue2684 3 месяца назад
Oh my gooood! Here he is again, do you psycho go to all comments to tell people that the game is dead?
@shifterashtongue2684
@shifterashtongue2684 3 месяца назад
​@@MikeyPaperyour face on your picture sais it all, go get therapy
@bohne8746
@bohne8746 3 месяца назад
Well I won’t come back. Guild disbanded and we’re not even lvl 60…. never had that in a wow game before. normally it‘s around aq40
@OMGiTzSpAnKy
@OMGiTzSpAnKy 3 месяца назад
​@@bohne8746 When in WoW history has there ever been a mode where it artificially hard caps you at specific levels for months on end? If SoD was just like Classic then we would be like a month or two away from AQ40.
@justinfrye9588
@justinfrye9588 3 месяца назад
Why hold the coffee cup if there is nothing in it? Are you holding onto feelings of rage relating to the dismissal of SOD P4 or is there a deeper meaning? Do you want to hold onto the nostalgia that SOD creates? Let me know in the comments below Sky!
@TheComebackKids
@TheComebackKids 3 месяца назад
Lol it was just gfuel not coffee last night, gfuel helps with a quick burst of energy while coffee is helpful for a longer period
@josipmarasovic2436
@josipmarasovic2436 3 месяца назад
my man hahahahahahahahaha
@justinfrye9588
@justinfrye9588 3 месяца назад
@@TheComebackKids :D :D
@DungeonDelver
@DungeonDelver 3 месяца назад
Plain and simple, Incursions had the most devastating multifaceted ripple effect to SoD and the game will never fully recover from it, just thankful it happened in P3 and not in P1 or P2. The copy and paste twitter/blue post drip feed style of P4 “news and updates” is only making things worse.
@hoodymcmayhem275
@hoodymcmayhem275 3 месяца назад
It’s hard to disagree, but I think they could have done it better. Like there’s no reason that at the launch of incursions players made $$bank$$. That was very very bad for the health of the economy. But it got better within a couple weeks. I think incursions are not a bad thing, it’s a palatable way to farm gold for some. A lot of people don’t like dungeon or aoe mage farming or killing mobs for a drop to sell on the AH, some people just like to do objective based gameplay. I dunno I’m trying to not be so harsh in my judgements or criticism and use a multi lenses to try an have an opinion on Sod. It’s been a helluva 6months lol
@DungeonDelver
@DungeonDelver 3 месяца назад
⁠@@hoodymcmayhem275100% agree. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the incursions, just the implementation/execution of them. Hell, I could even see incursions implemented as endgame daily quests, not endless loops. Get gold, get void or emerald dream related gear, even have special events where unique world bosses (like unto Kazzak) pop up giving guilds and factions something to compete for. Even if the incursions went well, all the gear, rep rewards, story/lore we got would still feel insignificant once P4 came out. Things like community and guild stability being SO important in the vanilla era. Their overall execution of P3 has killed guild stability which has a snowball effect with everyone still playing the game. I bet most people will come back, but just like the original Cataclysm launch, returning players will not be coming back to the same World of Warcraft.
@theHustle53
@theHustle53 3 месяца назад
i agree. they need to cap the amount of quests per day. get your little exp boost and then go out and play the actual game.
@danielpalmer7297
@danielpalmer7297 3 месяца назад
The gold influx was bad part of incursion. The fast leveling was not. If you want classic experience don't play sod as its far from classic. This is a seasonal server so faster lvling to try out classes specs, raids collect gear is focus. So incursion as a whole was not a issue, but the gold you earnest from it and no alternative for fast leveling was.
@DungeonDelver
@DungeonDelver 3 месяца назад
@@danielpalmer7297 well said! I agree!
@westloves
@westloves 3 месяца назад
I’m stoked for next phase, ready to get back into it.
@blitzme99
@blitzme99 3 месяца назад
If blizzard is only going to give 50% effort on SOD, then they should drop the subscription price by 50%. what a bunch of cheap A holes. They have almost unlimited money
@Matrixzttv
@Matrixzttv 3 месяца назад
Facts
@jtloug
@jtloug 3 месяца назад
it’s difficult to make a case for a price reduction based on the shortcomings of just one component of the sub getting the short end of the stick for two or so months. Go have a cup of tea with Cata or MoP remix and come back in a month or so.
@Htacid
@Htacid 3 месяца назад
idk im paying 15/month for multiple versions of wow. that price hasn't changed for so long that im surprised they haven't raised the price over the years.
@blitzme99
@blitzme99 3 месяца назад
@@jtloug its not difficult at all. if the quality of the product drops, so should the price. I am leveling Cata classic warrior right now, but man, the world feels dead. the LFG system is NOT classic. There is zero community
@twistedoasis
@twistedoasis 3 месяца назад
Drop a subscription price that they have had since 2004? My mill has gone up, gas is up shit even Netflix. Blizzard is the only company that has never charged me more in all of my bills
@tokuchris
@tokuchris 3 месяца назад
You nailed it right on the freaking head. The problem with Phase 3 was the Incursions. They weren't tested, someone missed the memo with the 50% XP and 300% gold buff, and the majority of the servers - the people that put in HOURS and HOURS into this game to get all their BiS and min-max every opportunity ... they hit end-of-phase level ON THE FIRST AND SECOND DAY. I know that by the end of the second day the guild I was in was already doing gearing runs in ZF, Mara, and BRD. Some jumped into Sunken Temple on the first lockout, the rest of us on the 2nd lockout. A phase that was supposed to last 8-10 weeks (and now longer?) had already "been completed" by an UNHEALTHY percentage of players within the first week. It only went up in the second week. And those that couldn't get enough people together in their guild to do 20 man raids? Their guilds broke apart, a lot of players just quit (thinking they had no shot at doing end-game content), and the negativity started spreading across forums and social media. But this was always the plan with Phase 3, right? To be the bridge between Phase 2 (the last "real" content update that felt "new") and Phase 4 (the beginning of the "end-game" content). The problem right now though, for those of us who are still playing SoD every single day (like me), is we don't know what the future is. Are we going to need tons of fire resistance gear to survive Molten Core? Do we need to start grinding rep for enchant recipes? How much time do you invest into your main or your alts, especially when they tease "some classes getting total overhauls for Phase 4"? We need some information and we need some information pretty soon (like, this week). The guild I'm in is dedicated to clearing SoD, but even we've lost a number of players to Cataclysm, but we still have a full guild clear of Sunken Temple every week, even last week. We have a full group of 20 set for this week's reset. But the number of clears for Sunken Temple each week is going down, way down, as guilds have abandoned it or simply don't think the gear is impactful enough to warrant the stress/pressure of trying to get people together or PUG to clear it. I hope for Phase 4 they turn off XP gains in Incursions for levels 50 and above. Force us to dungeon grind or quest grind. Drive people back to grouping for dungeons. Add new cosmetics (and mounts!) in dungeons and raids. Give us those Heroic+ dungeons inbetween raids. Lower Sunken Temple to the 3 day schedule to increase activity on the servers. Make Gnomer/BFD a daily lockout at this point. Introduce more 10-man content so those guilds that have struggled can come back together again. Open the PTR, let guilds that are still playing try out their level 60 characters and runes, build up the hype for the next phase, and watch it explode. Unless this whole delay is just to release SoD Phase 4 to compete with Elden Ring DLC/FFXIV Expansion release. In which case, boooo.
@josipmarasovic2436
@josipmarasovic2436 3 месяца назад
last part man
@hellexus4058
@hellexus4058 3 месяца назад
That coffee cup was legit upside down, sip of coffee after the intro had me in tears.😂😂
@Azmodian
@Azmodian 3 месяца назад
Phrase 4 will bring people back, but they've basically murdered this baby in the crib through mismanagement / other projects
@shifterashtongue2684
@shifterashtongue2684 3 месяца назад
Many people say those shit in youtube in a HUMOROUS way but mostly for the likes and to sound cool to themselves, there is a comment like yours under every video sbout sod lately, instead of beeing a meme pun kid say something useful something that solves the situation you say, you dont even say WHY no points just generalities, and after this comment you will say """incursions killed sod"""" (also a no point generality) and """there was no content""" and """"gatekeeping"""" (again with no points) and when youre proven wrong in ALL 3 you will just stop replying because you will understand how wrong you are
@shifterashtongue2684
@shifterashtongue2684 3 месяца назад
🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜 many parrots lately pasting comments from video to video
@EZcasper
@EZcasper 3 месяца назад
I hope they upgrade the gear that is rewarded from quests and exp because I mostly level up doing quests, and I notice that I'm far behind in terms of gear and leveling up with quests is the slowest way to level up. I'm playing a hunter, and hardly any mail gear is rewarded from quest
@DungeonDelver
@DungeonDelver 3 месяца назад
The hype train for P4 would have happened all on its own. Endgame runes and raids was an easy sell, slam dunk opportunity. In P2, the ravenously content hungry community didn’t know that Incursions would happen to be the worst content SoD would have at EXACTLY the wrong time. We ate it up, SoD boys capitalized on gold and the economy has never been the same, casuals HAD to do it if they wanted any hope of keeping up. They someone managed to lose interest from both the casual and hardcore audiences with one facet of content. Devs thought that giving us everything in terms of XP, gold, rep, and gear in a single endlessly repeating loop was a good idea. Even casuals are running out of things to do. We literally got left hanging on the most boring, unceremonious cliff hanger right before the content we’ve been looking forward to the most. And now they’re asking us to wait… cool. The amount of community trust the devs gained in P1 and P2 is running out, which is unfortunate given how much of a success SoD has been overall.
@hoodymcmayhem275
@hoodymcmayhem275 3 месяца назад
This is so true lol
@michaelklyne6926
@michaelklyne6926 3 месяца назад
I don't think phase 2 gained any community trust. The trust has been continuously bleeding out since the end of phase 1.
@heroofhyrule9778
@heroofhyrule9778 3 месяца назад
my sweet children, these things are not a coincidence - an entire dev team doesn't engineer p3 to boost you to cap and go radio silent for months RIGHT when Cata and MoP remix come out by accident. Whats the difference in a sub to play sod and a sub to play one of those in the eyes of blizzard marketing? Only one thing, temptation to buy a boost or a wow token
@paulb_614
@paulb_614 3 месяца назад
At this point they should just do a reset on SOD with a faster cadence phase to phase. Rip out Incursions, delete from the game. Increase incentives to run bg's or remove rank cap. I honestly think p3 should be skipped in a redo or ran at 60 when gearing for prebis. The gearing of pre bis is one of the best parts of classic. It is why everyone LOVED Phase 1. If you currently have all of ST gear you wont need to do much pre bis farm for MC. We are 6-7months into this thing and I could of had Rank14 gear by now in vanilla having a blast in raids.
@kostax966
@kostax966 3 месяца назад
agreed
@hoodymcmayhem275
@hoodymcmayhem275 3 месяца назад
Sounds like you just want a fresh vanilla server lol but really I don’t think incursions are that bad, I think when it’s the only thing to do, that is a very bad feeling for the game. I understand your frustration but I think incursions are not as bad as you think.
@paulb_614
@paulb_614 3 месяца назад
@@hoodymcmayhem275 Some of the sod things are cool. I feel staff is lacking help and a reset would buy them time to prep 60 content.
@NickPlays95
@NickPlays95 3 месяца назад
Go play era if you want to rush 60. Sod is about enjoying the progression to 60. Not rushing. If they gave us rank 14 there would be no point in running most raids as you’d out gear most drops until AQ40 / NAXX
@tatedoh
@tatedoh 3 месяца назад
Incursions are my favorite part of sod. Please don’t remove. I’ve leveled 51 characters through them because they’re so fun.
@izerathh
@izerathh 3 месяца назад
I’m in the phase 4 waiting room with a shit load of car and driver magazines……
@itsthatguysev
@itsthatguysev 3 месяца назад
Blizz had something great, and yet again- killed it. My group and guild has since quit, and I only come back to this channel to watch people poke at the dead body we call SoD. The times were fun fellow dad gamers. 🍻
@aidasmatulaitis5175
@aidasmatulaitis5175 3 месяца назад
the reasons why I was excited for season of discovery: 1) classes rework, 2) new vanillla content and I could probably find more reasons but why I quit was : these low lvl phases at low lvl dungeon-raids were not for me who want to experience raiding at low lvls, I was more excited for end game vanilla plus new content not low lvl raids and being locked at low lvl for few months. I like idea if you enjoy low lvl content - mostly for twink enjoyers, but that wasn't for me, also rune farming was too much for me who only wants to chill and lvl up to max and these runes made things even more annoying and confusing on top of class chain quests already being enough. also paying ~15euros per month for low lvl end game content was not worth it when I am only interested in end game pvp or pve. Also overall season of discovery is interesting but thats not what I wanted classic + or vanilla + to be. I am sure many people were thinking the same way as me so they quit once they tried season of discovery. I think Blizzard team just took the step and made the SoD without people suggesting anything ( with a blind eye ) and they thought people will enjoy low lvl content but I didn't like it at all. I could understand if these low lvl phases could last 1-2 months max but not 3+ months for each phase... I would give low lvl content from 1-60 - 6months to enjoy low lvl raids and world pvp - low lvl bg's but not make it last this long, people just gave up and left because they didn't want this at all.
@Impuracle
@Impuracle 3 месяца назад
2:51 it's easy to say "if you're frustrated, stop playing" but I pay a monthly subscription. Communications and development going dark on a live service is unacceptable!
@RockerBoy20045
@RockerBoy20045 3 месяца назад
The incursions at the beginning of P3 which had people speedlevel to 50 on day one was incredibly damaging to the experience. Add to that a bizar focus on parsing and other insane (player created) requirements to be able to pug a simple dungeon/raid and my interest in SOD has basically disappeared. I like the world aspect and discovery of it all, but for now there's not much fun to be had. I'd say this is not completely on Blizzard - the community in SoD is toxic as hell. *edit* At this point, only very interesting story/class/world related content (not just runes..) would bring me back. If the game is good and healthy, I'll just join a guild to do raids. As it stands, the fact that you need to show parses, gear, etc makes it too much like a job for me which is not what I'm looking for in a game lol
@tytygreenrich9407
@tytygreenrich9407 3 месяца назад
Take as long as you need blizzard, do The next Phase properly.
@TheComebackKids
@TheComebackKids 3 месяца назад
AGREED!!!!
@b0bbyhill
@b0bbyhill 3 месяца назад
i havent played for 2-3 weeks and the phase extension killed my guild. thanks blizzard! getting people to come back to wow after being forced to take extended breaks is one of the hardest things to do, blizzard doesnt have a good track record of doing that.
@RushJet1
@RushJet1 3 месяца назад
Same. I think we'll all have to basically start over in Phase 4. Haven't even logged in for 3 weeks since our last raid fell apart due to lack of players.
@RushJet1
@RushJet1 3 месяца назад
Also I might not even play Phase 4 for awhile because they're going to be competing with Shadow of the Erdtree potentially....
@nacujo
@nacujo 3 месяца назад
Same. My guild is done and I quit. Won’t be coming back.
@JohnSmith-jb2jf
@JohnSmith-jb2jf 3 месяца назад
Your leaders not recruiting to compensate for quitters killed your guild. Roster maintenance doesn't happen by magic. There is no Paladin (w/e class) ability for that. You actually have to put in time, instead of raid logging.
@nacujo
@nacujo 3 месяца назад
@@JohnSmith-jb2jf nobody plays anymore bro. Login and look around. No one to recruit.
@wheeze9378
@wheeze9378 3 месяца назад
They should have a dedicated team for SoD only ........... Zzzzzzzzzz, this crap isn't working.
@adamfink8958
@adamfink8958 3 месяца назад
If they didn’t nerf the raid into the ground and added more meaningful loot than +4 AP neck it woulda been a lot more enjoyable. The nerfed raid was probably fine for a 5-6 week phase
@sgtBONGwater
@sgtBONGwater 3 месяца назад
While there's some hope for p4, I really think it'll be parse 90 with 5 world buffs that take all week to get it or no raid.
@anyroad5455
@anyroad5455 3 месяца назад
That’s my worry as well. I used to not sweat things like that because I had a chill, small guild with players who genuinely enjoyed playing together. Phase 1 & 2 were awesome for us. We had a 3-4 BFD and Gnomer runs a lockout. We just couldn’t manage 20 mans and then our server was locked. Now that everyone went to a mega server I don’t think I’ll be able to raid without doing all those pre-raid chores.
@tatedoh
@tatedoh 3 месяца назад
Parsing needs to be removed. So cringe
@cynergi7498
@cynergi7498 3 месяца назад
​@@tatedohliterally the only competitive aspect of sod
@tatedoh
@tatedoh 3 месяца назад
@@cynergi7498 it’s a season, shouldn’t be competitive. The only form of competitive should be pvp. Not killing a monster faster.
@cynergi7498
@cynergi7498 3 месяца назад
@@tatedoh ya well sod has no competitive pvp and awful pvp at that. Parsing is all sod had going for it but now it's days are over anyways
@donwooss
@donwooss 3 месяца назад
Phase 1 BiS phase. Rest is shyte and it pains me to say this
@ltdan1551
@ltdan1551 3 месяца назад
You are the best sky you should be public speaker you are so well spoken and enjoyable to listen to
@Caballera-rb9xk
@Caballera-rb9xk 3 месяца назад
I agree, I think people will move back over to SOD once phase 4 is released. Then it'll be the Cata players (I play both SOD and Cata) that will be complaining. And it'll probably keep switching back and forth as phases are released. I'm happy that SOD is kinda on a pause cause it allows me to play Cata without feeling like I'm missing something cause I want to do both.
@BootJarhead
@BootJarhead 3 месяца назад
My guild fell apart going from 10 to 20 man. A few friends joined another guild that fell apart after a few weeks. Then we joined another guild that can't fill out a full 20 man and have to pug. With that being said I am still happy with what we will be getting in P4 and excited for the future. Josh Greenfield has been amazing throughout SoD. I am not into Cata or mop remix or retail but its been great to step back, recharge the batteries and get stuff done outside of SoD in prep for p4. Give it some time and im sure it will be great.
@Elanmorintedronai1
@Elanmorintedronai1 3 месяца назад
Saying giving vague updates is fruitless is absolute bullshit. I don't need an essay on what class changes they're working on, I don't need a twenty minute video on what runes or raids are coming. I need an update with a loose, ballpark hint of when the ptr is coming, and the same for when launch is coming. Them not giving us that is basically saying "our whole team is busy with cata, fuck off and come back later, pleb"
@PigsxArexAwesome
@PigsxArexAwesome 3 месяца назад
I currently raid log; the only reason I'm still playing is because of my guild, I like hanging with them and dont want to leave them dry. However if they announced they're going to release us to level to 60 for now I would be happy. No new runes, no new raids. Let us go to 60 and let the "launch" be the opening of molten core and the drop of runes into the world
@seabhacgra517
@seabhacgra517 3 месяца назад
SoD is like your favorite pizza,.. it's delicious when it's fresh and even the next day and sometimes even reheated.. but SoD right now feels like the leftover pizza on the counter from last week.. it's gonna take one hell of a phase 4 to recover from the stagnation and dead state of the game right now
@H3MapnGamemaker
@H3MapnGamemaker 3 месяца назад
Every video I've clicked on where you ask for more 'content' by vouching for heroics is just insane to me. I don't know why you think this would be fresh content. It would just be deadmines that take an hour and a half again. I would rather start a new character and run it on them. Everyone would just spam dungeons for reputation and barely ever do them again unless a daily was tied to them or for loot. I've tried seeing if you would vouch for something else, or step away from having this train of thought. I think you need to step back from giving the dev team an easy pass or idea. They need to make more unique quest lines. I mean, how many cool BoEs exist that could have a questline to them? Or some dungeon loot that has some RP aspect that starts a questline and a chance to cleanse/corrupt them for a slight upgrade. Or they could make new dungeons and raids. Crafting questlines to make transmog available. There's so many things that are in the spirit of classic that they could add. I pay a subscription for this. Heroics are a lazy, hashed up idea that don't introduce new content to us. Please try to rethink this. I liked your content, but can't get past this.
@Straff_Dis
@Straff_Dis 3 месяца назад
This prolonged phase is bad news. Think about it. With everyone jumping to MoP, Retail, or Cata. People will build an attachment to that. So when p4 does drop, people will be too invested with their current version of WoW. The population for SoD will never recover.
@Parzival.007
@Parzival.007 3 месяца назад
I think they make every raid 20 man going forward and make the future 20 mans into 10 mans. ZG 10 man sounds fun and challenging along with AQ10! BWL as a 20 man sounds extremely fun and challenging aswell
@ZugzugZugzugson
@ZugzugZugzugson 3 месяца назад
blizzards idea of the word "soon" puts the concept to shame. i mean oh my god, how long do we have to wait for "soon"?? its going to be fucking winter before phase 4.
@michaelthomas1916
@michaelthomas1916 3 месяца назад
I would've loved to have seen some upgrading of quest and 5-man dungeon rewards throughout the phases, especially in phase 3. As a casual player, that's some of my favorite content but the Emerald set made the dungeons pointless to do. I've hardly done any besides Princess spams for WOs.
@Ohhelmno
@Ohhelmno 3 месяца назад
Yeah, they killed our guild with the lack of content. That and Cata. I’ve enjoyed playing Cata and getting geared up for raids, but either way it’s been brutal for SOD which is very intriguing especially phase 4. I’ll be back when it drops, for sure, but we’ll see how many return with me.
@gamertyper6476
@gamertyper6476 3 месяца назад
P3 extension has been the most devasting raid wipe by far - cata classic has been really refreshing though tbh. I am not disheartened by the SoD stuff, I am just looking forward to P4, but on the same branch I also feel like we will all enter P4 a bit less excited since there is so many other things going on simultaneously like cata, MOP remix and TWW coming soon. Which was just bad timing. I think they hoped that the other iterations of WoW would hold people over as the phases continue launching, but the truth is, there are people who are die hard classic fans and others who like the midway area like cata, and then you got retail players, all different buckets of people. Regarding the gear changes for ST - it was still not significant enough unfortunately, but that's classic, the progression in that iteration of WoW was never super significant, you gradually get slightly stronger. I am just hoping for P4 that the boost is extremely noticeable. The way things scale from 80-85 in cata, that feels very good, to go from 20k hp to 100k hp just by leveling, and going from 3-4k dps to 20k dps. It needs to be something that gets people fired up and excited to log on. I think the blizzard team and devs are doing the best they can with what they've been given to work with. It all comes from higher levels at the end of the day and I am just happy we are still getting updates to all of this old content that they could've just chosen to never touch or revive again.
@tatedoh
@tatedoh 3 месяца назад
They need new battle grounds , new raids. Not recycled old content.
@TheComebackKids
@TheComebackKids 3 месяца назад
Shit I agree, but they waited until the final phase, so we can be reused over and over instead of one and done
@AmongRevenants
@AmongRevenants 3 месяца назад
All these delays in SoD is increasing false expectations that because of the wait ... we are going to be blown away with P4. I believe Blizz had the entire season of SoD set to play out without pause. But needed to temporarily sour the milk in order to force their "shoppers network"/streamers to start hawking their other products as the greatest ever. I stopped jumping through Blizz's hoops a while ago. Fuck them... I play SoD... don't shove rerun garbage in my face and tell me it's the best ever.
@mcsqueeze9165
@mcsqueeze9165 3 месяца назад
Here's an idea. How about they stop lining up their time tables for the same damn time
@stevesacripanti4448
@stevesacripanti4448 3 месяца назад
Just allow us to lvl to 60. Dont need new Runes, dont need any lvling buffs.. just give us something to do in game. Release new runes, loot..ect in a patch. At least we can start farming and prepping
@Mattykek
@Mattykek 3 месяца назад
People will come back for the level 60 phase, but I don't think it will be for long. This phase put so many ppl off and moved them to cata or retail. Might be too much to recover from.
@DungeonDelver
@DungeonDelver 3 месяца назад
⁠​⁠There’s nothing inherently wrong with the incursions, just the implementation/execution of them. Hell, I could even see incursions instead be implemented as endgame daily quests in a later phase, not endless loops that undercuts all other content. You could still Get some gold, get void or emerald dream related gear, even have special events where unique world bosses (like unto Kazzak) pop up giving guilds and factions something to compete for. Even if the incursions went well, all the gear, rep rewards, story/lore we got would still feel insignificant once P4 came out. Things like community and guild stability being SO important in the vanilla era. Their overall execution of P3 has killed guild stability which has a snowball effect with everyone still playing the game. I bet most people will come back, but just like the original Cataclysm launch, returning players will not be coming back to the same World of Warcraft.
@smurfberrieseso1158
@smurfberrieseso1158 3 месяца назад
Been playing tons of cata . Just been waiting for phase 4 lol
@jamespadgett8660
@jamespadgett8660 3 месяца назад
I've been having a blast in Cata. More fun than I did the first time
@calamitycaller927
@calamitycaller927 3 месяца назад
I'm actually still salty about them killing my server and forcing my guild to disband. It hasn't been the same since...
@adamfroggett845
@adamfroggett845 3 месяца назад
I don't give a shite about Cata. I played when it was live though. I'm so disappointed with how season of discovery has been handled so far. I haven't been on SoD in 4 weeks now, and I absolutely loved the game at launch. I don't feel good about a phase 4.... I hope that changes soon. 🙏
@SgtHouse
@SgtHouse 3 месяца назад
I think Blizzard released too many things at once and now costing them at the end 😢
@parkerfrode5101
@parkerfrode5101 3 месяца назад
Yea it’s 100% this. And because of it all the classic version are getting shafted. Glaring bugs in cats raids that were there in beta and still weren’t fixed. There devs are spread to thin and can’t give any of the versions what they need.
@aidasmatulaitis5175
@aidasmatulaitis5175 3 месяца назад
also great video you have amazing way of explaining things, better then over-rated Asmongold or other wow youtubers like nixxion, punkrat, and all these other ones. really chill vibes from you huge thumbs up from me
@anyroad5455
@anyroad5455 3 месяца назад
When the closed Lava Lash, I basically quit playing. I loved SoD, but on top of the huge shitshow that was phase 3 (primarily incursions) and my community being destroyed from the server lockdown… I just lost motivation to log in. Roleplaying communities are a boon for MMORPG developers. Role-players will continue to log in during the inevitable content droughts, because they make their own content. They love the world, the lore and the stories they make in the game. It’s not about bosses, gear, farming gold or anything.
@enso.nauvoox
@enso.nauvoox 3 месяца назад
I’m with you on this one brother, I think the same will happen. 🔥
@symeone9114
@symeone9114 3 месяца назад
I will probably still enjoy it, but in my mind, no matter how good P4 will be, the whole season so far could have been so much more if they didnt fumble the Bag on proper planning with other Deadlines and actually dedicating a capable Team that can focus on such an ambitious Project.
@sethgunn2385
@sethgunn2385 3 месяца назад
SOD is now too. Cata being out is a shit excuse for blizzard to not be able to handle their own workload.
@zepho100
@zepho100 3 месяца назад
They want people to play cata to buy the in game services.
@Nopenotagainhaha
@Nopenotagainhaha 3 месяца назад
The info on the phase should be stated. Not this wait until everything is “fixed” for the ptr then backtrack going into phase 4.
@aaronkeefz5815
@aaronkeefz5815 3 месяца назад
Everyone will be back for lvl 60. It's the best part of classic, with changes
@neoikake
@neoikake 3 месяца назад
My exitement of sod is diying eavry week. I feal like we will get the same we did other phase. Mc onyxia, 1 bg, 1 pvp world event. And done for now. See you guys new phase for bwl and a redo of some reward like the pvp event.
@piffdaddy7661
@piffdaddy7661 3 месяца назад
This is exactly what we will get
@Fliptality
@Fliptality 3 месяца назад
Everybody playing cata now, what did you expect?
@AFKintheBGs
@AFKintheBGs 3 месяца назад
Shit sucks man my guilds raid rooster wont recover from this we went from full clearing each week to about 4 weeks ago 65% of the guild just stopped playing
@hoodymcmayhem275
@hoodymcmayhem275 3 месяца назад
Forget the heroics, let’s get mythic keystones in sod. Good 5man content blends really well with 20man raiding. IMO. I am staying optimistic about p4 but I’m mostly concerned about the class balance in pvp. PvP hasn’t really felt great in sod at all, so we’ll see what happens I guess. Cheers man good vid
@Mrsneezy111
@Mrsneezy111 3 месяца назад
Incursions ALONE absolutely cooked phase 3 and SoD as a whole. Whatever happens, the first step has to be to gut the entire incursion system out of the game. The damage it did to the game and the players most likely cannot be undone. Not sure why its not common sense to design systems and activities in the game to be FUN. Not rewards first. FUN first. Stop making us do shitty activities in the game because its required to do the content we want to do (raids)
@Ezudane
@Ezudane 3 месяца назад
Dawntrail for ffxiv comes out soon and will take all my time and a lot of my wow guildies which will impact the next phase. Endwalker adoption was immense so I expect it will be big with players and streamers alike.
@manolisathanasios
@manolisathanasios 3 месяца назад
I happy and relax right now I can take vacation or play some cata don’t need to be rush for me summer is here so
@TheComebackKids
@TheComebackKids 3 месяца назад
FACTS!!
@Scottysaweet
@Scottysaweet 3 месяца назад
shout out to the ppl who saw this coming after Phase 1 - and caught smoke from these dudes in the comments.
@theHustle53
@theHustle53 3 месяца назад
People just want a date at this point. If we had a date at least guilds can take inventory on who is coming back and who is moving on, so we can plan accordingly. Most of the people playing SoD are professionals or at least have full time jobs as well, so we would all like to schedule a day off or two as well. Why do they have to release ALL the content at once anyways? let us start leveling - give us one or two revamped dungeons, and then push the raid out two weeks later. I dont think any of these things are unreasonable. The incursion experiment needs to go away. now.
@DaFreezeey
@DaFreezeey 3 месяца назад
There is no date because Blizz doesn't know the date themselves... I imagine they have a ballpark but they don't want to commit 100% to it in case of shooting themselves in the foot. My guess is early to mid July but I could see it going a little longer.
@SingerinEX
@SingerinEX 3 месяца назад
unrelated but is there any news on what happens after 60 yet?
@TheComebackKids
@TheComebackKids 3 месяца назад
Not yet, everything coming very soon with this ptr
@ozzyrulez2008
@ozzyrulez2008 3 месяца назад
Blizzard is so damn braindead to not realize the player dropoff will be permanent. Show me a SINGLE instance where there is a massive player dropoff and people decide to just "come back" . The one and ONLY exception is classic era realms. Which even then going from 20 active players to 2000 may seem like a win yet is still a fractional amount compared to classic at its peak. People leave and do not come back, player counts will not reach what they were at peak again. Didnt happen in classic tbc, classic wrath, season of mastery. Wont happen for sod
@PrankCallFan845
@PrankCallFan845 3 месяца назад
People left during Ulduar/TOGC in original Wrath and came back for ICC. But I don't know if that'll happen for sod. Pretty sure I'm not going back
@sayamacd
@sayamacd 3 месяца назад
That Aggrend tweet just deleted my guild for the rest of the phase lmao. Had like 5 guildies reach out to me to say they are done till next phase.
@yankopetroff
@yankopetroff 3 месяца назад
Man they have to give us 1 month refund with this delay. Nobody is playing right now so the sub is going in the air…
@NickPlays95
@NickPlays95 3 месяца назад
You’re level 50 bro. There’s SO much to do. Go farm mats for consumes at 60….
@SirMouse003
@SirMouse003 3 месяца назад
Oh sweet summer child 😂
@ledgeview941
@ledgeview941 3 месяца назад
Why waste your time farming mats when you can just do incursions and buy them lol
@NickPlays95
@NickPlays95 3 месяца назад
@@ledgeview941 incursions are trash
@mitchdefay6330
@mitchdefay6330 3 месяца назад
Yea so I am only playing Cata and Remix because SOD is on the back burner.Its not what I want to do. They might need to discover some new employees 😅
@michaelmoran2125
@michaelmoran2125 3 месяца назад
Is it true there not doing new raids anymore (sm, and crypts)
@iitzcrayz
@iitzcrayz 3 месяца назад
Sucks I was having a great time until the servers started dieing and now I can’t do any content without a group but I can’t find a group cause everyone is with their guilds. So now I’m going back to old games to have fun.
@GowtuGames
@GowtuGames 3 месяца назад
Cant wait for P4. Ppl will come back from (boring) Cata. We can finally finish the pvp grind to rank 14. Get new gear, new old raids with a fresh touch, new content. Lvl to 60 get everything maxed out. SoD is my jam currently, will never touch Cata or retail (have not played since legion). WotLK would have been my last hurrah in WoW. But SoD kept me around and a possible classic+ or classic fresh will do so aswell.
@mantequillas1278
@mantequillas1278 3 месяца назад
We won't get rank 14 at the start. Only rank 10 or 11. Rank 14 will come with AQ40. They said this at some point.
@GowtuGames
@GowtuGames 3 месяца назад
@@mantequillas1278 must have missed that 🤷🏻‍♂️ probably up to the rare / blue lvl items and the epics a Phase later then. In 'original' classic you could rank all the way but the higher lvl items got implemented later phases. It helps there is no decay anyway. Good stuff.
@mantequillas1278
@mantequillas1278 3 месяца назад
@GowtuGames I'm kinda happy about it honestly. I got rank 13 in original vanilla and only rank 10 in 2019. It's nice to know I don't have to deteriorate my health for months. Instead, maybe just 1 week to grind the ranks.
@golvellius6855
@golvellius6855 3 месяца назад
Sure i am going to take a break, after blizzard billed me the annual pass, they don't care what we do
@jwlove66
@jwlove66 3 месяца назад
Classic Blizzard, listen to the customer base until they taste success, then unleash a wave of stupid (Phase 3). Destroyed the economy, made a favorite instance hard to enjoy (20 man), and emptied out quest zones. I quit along with most of my guild.
@PrankCallFan845
@PrankCallFan845 3 месяца назад
There's not much chance I'm coming back for p4, and it pains me to say that
@nobruh3468
@nobruh3468 3 месяца назад
Lies you’ll be there
@PrankCallFan845
@PrankCallFan845 3 месяца назад
@@nobruh3468 It's not impossible, but it is unlikely
@nobruh3468
@nobruh3468 3 месяца назад
@@PrankCallFan845 you’ll be there ;)
@WeMakeMontages
@WeMakeMontages 3 месяца назад
They had no plan after phase 1 and it’s obvious. I’ve never seen a fumble this hard by blizz fr. My guess is it’s all just a precursor to a proper classic+
@ryanpellegrini1023
@ryanpellegrini1023 3 месяца назад
SOD lost me when the casual aspect died. To many rep grinds. Raids are to big to fill in a pug format. Its just not pick up and play friendly like it was the first 2 phases. They need to get back to the chill playstyle were you dont feel punished for missing a day
@Vexonia_Music
@Vexonia_Music 3 месяца назад
Personally I've been having a lot more fun after swapping to a smaller server and swapping to horde.
@ragnorian257
@ragnorian257 3 месяца назад
Season of mastery was killed from honor/pvp gear, season of discover was killed through leveling + economy of the game
@89mso
@89mso 3 месяца назад
You say everyone will go back.. but I’m not quite sure I agree. I know I was having phone in P1, then less fun in P2, and then with the dumpster fire of P3 I’ve had enough. The only way I would be interested in SOD again is if they introduced arenas, which I know will not happen. I’m have way to much fun just casually playing arenas in cata right now you even think about going back to SOD. FROM DUST TO DUST
@tasmali5669
@tasmali5669 3 месяца назад
dust to dust!
@TheTatekei
@TheTatekei 3 месяца назад
Our guild had 2 20 man groups prior to this drought. So many of us have stopped playing sod that not even 1 group is able to raid ST without pugs. Aggrend needs a bigger team. Its bad when one small team has to deal with 3 versions if wow. P4 might be big.... but his team shouldnt be so overworked a d spread thin as they are. Sorry. But microsoft needs to pump more people into the team before they do this again.
@NaturalAnimalKG
@NaturalAnimalKG 3 месяца назад
It'll be cool for 4 weeks and then dead again. Blizz stretched too thin, there needs to be rolling updates and additions to the game on a 2-4 week basis. They just dont have the man power to do this, paying people $19 a hour to live in Commiefornia.
@militus5411
@militus5411 3 месяца назад
I don’t get it. Why invest so heavily into Cata when we have a history of what is inevitably going to happen…. You caught lightening on a bottle with SoD and just left it there to rot while you invested in a product in Cata that is doomed to fail. Makes no sense.
@ripcrusader
@ripcrusader 3 месяца назад
If they say they focus on cata mop etc it means they doing nothing or little for sod so waiting for weeks means nothing they wont give new zone new raid simply as they said before
@stjon1333
@stjon1333 3 месяца назад
Ya SoD deserves it's OWN team that focuses on it alone I mean come on CATA is old hat and Bliz is letting the BEST thing that they have done in years with sooo much steam from the inception just fizzle while focus is placed on Cataclysm?
@DaFreezeey
@DaFreezeey 3 месяца назад
Pretty sure I read some reports that Blizzard has a hard time keeping employees... Just goes hand in hand with all the shit that went down in 2019 to 2021
@Ysktaparaphus
@Ysktaparaphus 3 месяца назад
Kharazan crypts? Scarlet Crusade? Uldum? Defias hideouts?
@Noctrimlol
@Noctrimlol 3 месяца назад
You are right Sky, I am a bit excited for P4 but that’s not really the issue in my opinion. My expectations are absolutely 0, completely in the dirt. When SOD launched my whole friends list came back, people even bringing up War Within as a possibility in the future. That is all dead now. WoW had the chance to be totally revitalized and instead they absolutely ruined it. Hearing their communication of “play cata right now” is just proof that Blizzard as a company (maybe not Aggrend and team specifically) don’t truly care for the success of this even when all that positives were going for it. Not a single person in my guild that this phase decimated has logged in to try cata or remix, including myself. I only login on Thursday to host and MT an ST pug I need 0 loot for so the last 3 people left and I can play together Even Classic+ sentiment is down, no confidence in Blizzard to deliver anything worthwhile there. Overdosed on hopium
@idkidgaf
@idkidgaf 3 месяца назад
I'm sticking with Cata unless they give rogues cloak of shadows.
@ironraven86
@ironraven86 3 месяца назад
Sod is awsome, people arent patient enough, you need to realise youll have soooo much stuff to do at 60 it ll be awsome... Keep makin them click bait videos hahah 💪
@TheComebackKids
@TheComebackKids 3 месяца назад
LMFAO
@JohnSmith-ez5pw
@JohnSmith-ez5pw 3 месяца назад
I am raid logging and hoping for better days, just like everyone else
@bertod6387
@bertod6387 3 месяца назад
Since p1 I already knew the phase length would destroy the game
@mantequillas1278
@mantequillas1278 3 месяца назад
If they take the whole summer to make the game amazing, well f*** it. I want my 10 man raids back. At this point I'm just playing cataclysm.
@piffdaddy7661
@piffdaddy7661 3 месяца назад
They should consider just starting over - completely re do the whole thing at this point
@tarb1320
@tarb1320 3 месяца назад
SoD was fun but it is completely dead, phase 4 might not even make it recover as all of my 100+ active guild no longer logs in.
@facehugger8995
@facehugger8995 3 месяца назад
SoD so dead my server had 3 people online this morning haha
@SavagePotato440
@SavagePotato440 3 месяца назад
I been saying phase 4 will be a blast but they definitely dropped the ball on p 3 could have been done better but here’s to the future boys
@slyslade_7066
@slyslade_7066 3 месяца назад
Ptr will be very telling, one way or another
@99ownage9
@99ownage9 3 месяца назад
I didn’t get any tokens the first 2-3 weeks of the raid , but now I got my main set, off spec set and i haven’t even raided the last two raids. Zzzz phases lasting to long in a fast pace temporary game mode is terrible for it. 100% they should have a separate team for sod
@bohne8746
@bohne8746 3 месяца назад
look they’re still working on cata. To believe they are hard working on rock content on SoD is pure cope. P4 will give content in the extent as P2 and P3 did. They clearly underestimated the work they need to do on Cata - and since there’s a Cash Shop and more money to earn of course they prioritize it
@Dargonelf11
@Dargonelf11 3 месяца назад
Hey man the horde has been getting grief so hard with these dmf raids. Could you talk about it for the dev cuz it's making it hard to enjoy the game when ur being forced to grind bgs again
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