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Self Leveling Trim Tabs or Smart Tabs 

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This video looks at self leveling trim tabs and how they work. Are they right for your boat?
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@johndeargo2617
@johndeargo2617 4 года назад
To Lost Angler; Thanks for including us in your video. One of the comments that I would like to address is the function at high speeds. One of the more important features is the varying lift pressure which is built into the pneumatic actuator design. At pre-plaining speeds Smart Tabs provide more lift at the stern and at higher speeds they provide less lift. The result is that you get the maximum stern lift to get up on step quickly and a reduced ride control tension for that eliminates porpoising and chine walking. The Bennett Self Leveling tabs use a simple coil spring. Coil springs by nature provide less resistance a lower speeds and increasingly more resistance (lift tension at higher speed. The increased resistance at higher speeds creates more stern lift than needed, driving the bow down, reducing the top speed, and reducing the ability to properly trim the prop angle. Nauticus Smart Tabs ( the original automatic tabs) provide seven (7) actuator choices to match your boat size and HP, plus five (5) fine tuning adjustments to insure the best overall performance, ride and handling. Nauticus also sells a plate retractor kit (# PR500) which brings the trim plate up flush with the bottom of the boat when desired.
@BennettTrimTabs1
@BennettTrimTabs1 4 года назад
Nice job with the video! Thanks for choosing our tabs.
@AskLeRoy
@AskLeRoy 4 года назад
The Bennett line is bulletproof and their customer service actively reaches out to help people. Have the original hydraulic system from an 84 sleekcraft and all the parts are still available to purchase. Have had 2 other boats with SLT systems. Awesome products
@zash008
@zash008 4 года назад
For anyone trying to decide between these type tabs and the AutoTrim Pro, I installed the AutoTrim Pro and found if the water is rough as in 2'-3' seas (my boat is 18') the AutoTrim pro is kinda too slow to react and you find you are better off manually adjusting instead of waiting for the controller to decide what to do. In little smoother seas the AutoTrim Pro is awesome. Just wanted to put this out there for those boaters that are here because they are trying to decide which version to buy.
@FKCamVlogs
@FKCamVlogs 2 года назад
Thank you Zash this was helpful!
@Roger-gm9tl
@Roger-gm9tl 9 месяцев назад
Can't say I've heard anyone mention what about backing up trying to dock your boat in slip at a mariner or for any other reason, pass over a good hole, avoid potential emergency, how these affect control !
@chad1755
@chad1755 3 года назад
Great explanation -- very helpful
@curttimmbch
@curttimmbch Год назад
Thanks for posting. I was looking at getting smart tabs. But since I own a Excel bay pro, I also run in a pad. You saved me some money, a few holes in my boat, and sum curse words. Thanks
@LostAngler
@LostAngler Год назад
I'm glad I could help
@konakev1203
@konakev1203 Год назад
What do you mean when you say "...if you run on a pad..."? I'm not sure I know what that is
@Steve-yr5vi
@Steve-yr5vi 3 года назад
So did you remove the tabs? I have a bow rider that is a bit stern heavy and requires full throttle to get on plane, I'm not that concerned of top speed it'll hit 50 and that is fast enough on a 18' boat. Smart tabs allow me to get on plane easier and the bow doesn't lift near has much.
@jordanford8545
@jordanford8545 3 года назад
Thanks for the info. Just bought some Bennett’s for my sons 17’ tri hull that was proposing after we installed a 115 hp motor. Hope it does the trick.
@chrispeterson1247
@chrispeterson1247 3 года назад
How did they go, I have a v hull and at full speed its up and down like crazy!
@BlueBanditTheGod
@BlueBanditTheGod 9 месяцев назад
Was that a boston whaler and how did it work out
@johnphinney292
@johnphinney292 Год назад
Great video
@rafaelrolon5393
@rafaelrolon5393 3 года назад
Hi, your video was very helpful in understanding smart tabs.I have a 18ft center console Stripper fishing boat and its porpoising at sea. Can I use the self leveling tabs or what do you recommend.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 3 года назад
I think they would work great for that boat
@TrophyFish
@TrophyFish 2 года назад
I had a 18 foot flats boat with a 90hp and a lot of weight in the back with the batteries and polling deck. It would porpoise very bad and you had to play with the jack plate and the trim to make it stop. After putting on the self leveling trim tabs, the problem went away. Now I have a 20 foot Falcon King Striper with a Chevy 305 I/O and it chine walks very bad. Same thing though. Very heavy in the back especially with the bait tank full of 40 gallons of water. The tabs arrive today and I can't wait to see how they impact the chine walk and the need to go WOT to get on plane.
@gregorysaunders6005
@gregorysaunders6005 Год назад
Did it help with chine?? 😢
@TrophyFish
@TrophyFish Год назад
@@gregorysaunders6005 I haven't put them on yet. They will interfere with my transducers. I have a new transducer mount I need to install and after that I'll try it
@Jyuk3
@Jyuk3 Год назад
Great video, I have a Ranger RP190, it has a padded hull with the bennett spring loaded tabs. 90% of the time I have the tabs retracted/raised. When I have a full load of anglers and lower tide, I'll release the tabs and give up top end, but get a better holeshot. My tabs were on the boat when I bought it. I was researching proper placement of tabs with padded hulls when I found this video. Most tabs I have seen look like they are 3-4 from the outside edge which is what the Install instructions recommend. I was planning to move mine wider so when not in use and running on the inner pads the tabs would have less impact. Now I'm wondering if I should just leave them as is. They are 11.5 from outside edge and 13.25 from center. Did you remove the tabs from your bay boat?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler Год назад
I did remove the tabs.
@markmoretzfishing
@markmoretzfishing 11 месяцев назад
Hey would a 6+8 work on my pro 175 aluminum G3 I have a 75 4 stroke and it porpoises
@Cdawg1871980
@Cdawg1871980 4 года назад
Nice video , my Carolina skiff 178dlv goes bow up almost straight up then planes out , I just added these Bennett 10” ones yesterday I sure hope they help .. also added a hydrofoil to the outboard
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
you should be golden!
@craigshuman2767
@craigshuman2767 4 года назад
I have the same boat. Did the trim tabs help with getting on plane?
@PapaBravo.
@PapaBravo. 4 года назад
Did they work?
@Cdawg1871980
@Cdawg1871980 4 года назад
Craig Shuman yes 100%
@Cdawg1871980
@Cdawg1871980 4 года назад
Paul Breaux yes definitely
@falcosparverius1
@falcosparverius1 Год назад
It becomes a fishing line slicer when you are fighting a big fish like a tuna. Are there trim tabs that are not sharp?
@fernandomartin624
@fernandomartin624 3 дня назад
I want to find these auto tabs from Bennet for a 15 ft stingray but I could not see that they have them. The other ones are so expensive and don't think they would do a better job save maybe for leveling the boat sideways?
@howardredder3582
@howardredder3582 Год назад
I have a 17ft. Targa, deep V. Takes off on plane great, the problem is it leans LEFT at full speed! Weight and level is perfectly level when sitting. The boat tracks straight. I feel i don't need a trim tab for taking off, just at full speed. What could i do?? One Tab on left side?? Fixed position tab on Left side??
@Unplugged704
@Unplugged704 3 года назад
Great video and explanation. I was on a friend's 2014 Nitro Z6 with Mercury 115 HP Optimax recently. I noticed his boat leaned to the left most of the time the boat was running. However I did not remember seeing trim tabs on the back of the boat. But the boat was level while idel. What else could be causing the lean?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 3 года назад
So it could also be caused by the prop. Does it lean to the left?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 3 года назад
Also because it has a pad, the boat doesn't need tabs. You might try a hydrofoil
@davidburchard3178
@davidburchard3178 Год назад
There is often a tab on your outboard or outdrive ( above your prop). you can turn to counter the side torque of your engine
@zash008
@zash008 4 года назад
Update since my last comment: Finally installed 18x9 bennett bolt tabs with AutoTrim Pro controller. Dead stop to up on plane and accelerating at pretty good speed is like 3 seconds or less!! BUT, if any tab is touching water flow in the LEAST amount to control lists caused by prop rotation slows top speed down 5mph. So, to still get top speed tabs must be fully raised and motor trimmed like before the tabs were installed. Owners manual indicates after tab install motor can then be trimmed where prop is positioned at parallel with water surface for optimum efficiency. We found for top speed motor still needs to be trimmed up and both tabs need to be fully up. My conclusion then is if I would have installed self leveling type tabs I would have been guaranteed to lose speed.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
I would agree completely.
@J_Addison
@J_Addison 4 года назад
I live in Mobile also. I have a 20' Proline DC, do you think they would help at slower speeds? That's were my boat struggles 15-18 mph in rough water.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
Trim tabs really have very little affect at slower speeds. Sometimes in rougher conditions, the best thing you can do is speed up and get on top of it if you can. I think at those lower speeds a hydrofoil may be more helpful.
@mchenryjeremy
@mchenryjeremy 2 месяца назад
Is it necessary to put tabs on a boat with float pods in the rear?
@user-ow8ud7ox1v
@user-ow8ud7ox1v Год назад
Can you leave the tabs locked flat?
@bigkyle7395
@bigkyle7395 3 года назад
What size tab would you recommend on my Carolina skiff 16? It has a 40hp evenrude.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 3 года назад
The smaller ones
@Edmond9803
@Edmond9803 2 года назад
Hey, I have a 17' older boston whaler montauk with a 115 evinrude, would you recommend I use these? And if so, should I go with the smaller ones?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 2 года назад
I think the smaller ones would work great
@aaronmcneal1698
@aaronmcneal1698 3 года назад
I have a question. I have a 20' Aquasport Osprey that has a 150 Mercury that was put on it instead of the old 88. I play hell trying to get on a plane. Would these benefit my boat? I have to run my motor in the full down position all the time, even at full throttle or the bow will jump up to the point water comes in the back of my boat
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 3 года назад
It probably would. But this sounds so severe that you might want to add a hydrofoil as well
@jefflight63
@jefflight63 3 года назад
I saw that you had a G3 bay boat. I have a 18'DLX. In mine, the sides where you have installed the trim tabs are foam filled. Are yours filled as well and if so, how did you do a through bolt to mount the tabs?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 3 года назад
I tapped the hull and used machine screws. Of course I sealed the with silicone
@jefflight63
@jefflight63 3 года назад
@@LostAngler the transom was thick enough to tap? How thick is it? That might be my solution!
@michaelboose4984
@michaelboose4984 4 года назад
I recently picked up a 17DLX and am planning on adding SLTs to it. Would you recommend the 6s or 10s?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
I would think 6 would be good
@michaelboose4984
@michaelboose4984 4 года назад
@@LostAngler Thanks. I had actually already ordered the SLT6s so I'm glad I went that route. There isn't a ton of information for that size boat being dead center between the two. Tight lines and thanks again!
@OrcaAngler
@OrcaAngler 3 года назад
what do u mean by boat doesnt have a pad. i dont get it
@davemckeraghan3585
@davemckeraghan3585 3 года назад
I knw this was posted a while ago but I just came across it and subscribed today...thanks for the info. My question is I have a 17' G3 Angler V with a 60hp Yamaha. My issue is the 60hp is under powering the boat and it takes time to get up on plane, it is rated for a 90hp. I have been told a set of 10" Self Levelling Tabs will allow the boat to plane quicker (for tubing etc...) but I think it also reduces the top end speed.
@UrineOccult
@UrineOccult 3 года назад
It will reduce top speed for sure but you will get on plane at lower speeds.
@JohnBraman413
@JohnBraman413 2 года назад
what do you mean a boat with a pad?
@bobheinrich7011
@bobheinrich7011 9 месяцев назад
They do a great job with some pitfalls. Because they auto deploy at low speed which is why you bought them to get you out the hole and stop proposing that is good however if you fish out wide and find the wind has unexpectedly blown up and you need to punch it home through over a meter of swell and your bow is roughly a meter high and you have to back down to just planing speed to deal with the sea your tabs will be fully deployed when you want them out of the water and when fully deployed into such a swell and or chop it will make them come over the bow as you punch it so they can be a little dangerous in the wrong conditions.
@djknowledge1234
@djknowledge1234 4 года назад
What do you mean by pad? I have a seadoo challenger 180 would this work
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
It may. I don't see why not
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
And a pad is where a boat is made to run at peak efficiency on a small part of the hull
@davidbrown6566
@davidbrown6566 4 года назад
Some vee-bottom hulls feature a small flat area toward the rear of the keel called a pad, designed to decrease drag at high speeds
@jasonbrinson20091983
@jasonbrinson20091983 3 года назад
So I run a 198 dlv. Would these work good?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 3 года назад
Yes 100% we ordered them on all of our Carolina skiffs when we were dealers
@MERCER27
@MERCER27 2 года назад
This will keep my side console boat level with just me in it correct
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 2 года назад
Yes sir, but only while on plane
@Guitarman81092
@Guitarman81092 Год назад
After setting them down, can i put the pin back in? The boat is still porpoising (idk how to spell it lol)
@LostAngler
@LostAngler Год назад
Ok you might want to add a hydrofoil to your outboard
@zash008
@zash008 4 года назад
So as for a boat not having a pad...you are saying a person that owns a small Contender would like these tabs?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
Yeah depending on the size. According to Bennett they are not intended for boats over say 20 ft. Also Contender has a 24.5 Degree of deadrise. I would strongly suggest going to hydraulic trim tabs.
@LOJOMarine
@LOJOMarine 5 лет назад
what is the brand and the part number to the trim taps you have and where can I get them
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 5 лет назад
They are Bennett Self Leveling Trim Tabs. SLT 10. You can order them on Amazon. But I just took mine off so they are available if you want to buy them.
@LOJOMarine
@LOJOMarine 5 лет назад
How much
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 5 лет назад
@@LOJOMarine $75
@1sayisuggadaddy
@1sayisuggadaddy 5 лет назад
How can I get ahold of you to purchase them?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 5 лет назад
@@1sayisuggadaddy I am sorry about the late reply, I have been out of town for the past week and I am trying to play catch up. email me at pjordan.lostangler@gmail.com
@PapaBravo.
@PapaBravo. 4 года назад
I have a Tracker Grizzly 1754 with a 60hp. Takes forever to get on Plane. Will these help me and will I lose top end speed?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
They should help and if you lose speed it will be minimal for sure
@PapaBravo.
@PapaBravo. 4 года назад
@@LostAngler Thank you for the quick reply. Ill give them a try!
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
@@PapaBravo. if that doesn't do the trick you might try a hydro foil
@PapaBravo.
@PapaBravo. 4 года назад
@@LostAngler I tried that. I do get on plane a few seconds faster but not much. I lost about 3-4 mph on the top end. I saw this was another inexpensive option to try. I fish sometimes in 1 foot of water and need to get on plane very quickly
@franciscogutierrez6920
@franciscogutierrez6920 4 дня назад
What does run on a pad mean? I have a 2022 189 Tyee Lund Fiberglass. What you recommend?
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 дня назад
@@franciscogutierrez6920 so I don't think your boat has a pad. I might suggest either smart tabs or just a hydrofoil
@franciscogutierrez6920
@franciscogutierrez6920 4 дня назад
@@LostAngler yeah it feels as im popping a wheely forever.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 дня назад
@@franciscogutierrez6920 gotcha, what size engine do you have?
@GoogleUser-yj1wy
@GoogleUser-yj1wy 2 года назад
What pad are you on about??...
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 2 года назад
Some boats, like bass boats, have a part of the hull called a pad. This helps the boat go even faster while on plane at high speeds. Basically a flat spot on the bottom of a v-hull boat. A quick Google search has numerous videos and explanations
@brandondyess9973
@brandondyess9973 4 года назад
own an aluminum 15 by 52 alweld 60hp tohatsu 4 stroke. The boat is podded, tunneled, Lifted transom, and a breakaway plate. I have tried everything to get the speed and motor height outta my motor that I know it should have. Problem #1 porpoising!!! Boy this is the most aggravating thing to deal with. Boat planes out quick with motor trimmed all the way under boat, trim it up one bump and slap slap slap slap. Almost throw u outta the boat. Problem #2 motor height. If u know anything about tunnel boats u know that 1 blade of ur prop and fin should be the only thing that is hanging past the bottom of the boat to allow for proper water pressure to the pump. I had to keep a little over half of my prop below my boat so the tunnel wasn’t able to do its job of hiding the prop as it should have.this caused issues of running in really skinny water. Problem #3 and it’s the most IMPORTANT SPEED!!!! If ur anything like me and put a over powered motor on a small boat this is a big deal.. Each problem of trimming, height, porpoising, and planning out all add up to a huge speed lose. I was very skeptical about these trim tabs, figured they would be just a waste of 100$ but I am hear to tell u now every issue has been fixed with these tabs. I was able to raise my motor to proper height, I can trim the motor till it’s in just few inches of water, no porpoising, jumps on to plane quick, and let me tell u now speed!!!! I bet I gained 10mph and running in 6” or less of water.. can prove it with video. 100% recommend this product to anyone. It’s a one stop fix for all!! Sorry for the long review but I am truly satisfied and wish I could have read this about a river boat rather than all the reviews on bay boats. By the way the only thing extra I have done is i went and had cup added to my prop to cut back on cavitation because of high everything is now. Which wasn’t a bad problem but remember every little problem adds up. Thanks yal keep it skinny 🌊🚤
@johndeargo2617
@johndeargo2617 4 года назад
To Lost Angler; Thanks for including us in your video. One of the comments that I would like to address is the function at high speeds. One of the more important features is the varying lift pressure which is built into the pneumatic actuator design. At pre-plaining speeds Smart Tabs provide more lift at the stern and at higher speeds they provide less lift. The result is that you get the maximum stern lift to get up on step quickly and a reduced ride control tension for that eliminates porpoising and chine walking. The Bennett Self Leveling tabs use a simple coil spring. Coil springs by nature provide less resistance a lower speeds and increasingly more resistance (lift tension at higher speed. The increased resistance at higher speeds creates more stern lift than needed, driving the bow down, reducing the top speed, and reducing the ability to properly trim the prop angle. Nauticus Smart Tabs ( the original automatic tabs) provide seven (7) actuator choices to match your boat size and HP, plus five (5) fine tuning adjustments to insure the best overall performance, ride and handling. Nauticus also sells a plate retractor kit (# PR500) which brings the trim plate up flush with the bottom of the boat when desired.
@babayagathebasscatcher_7922
@babayagathebasscatcher_7922 4 года назад
brandon dyess would you recommend for a 87 aluminum bass tracker tx17 with a 70HP?
@justinschmidt9180
@justinschmidt9180 Год назад
Whats a pad
@davidburchard3178
@davidburchard3178 Год назад
Your comments are confusing because you seem to be comparing smart tabs against Bennitt tabs? Bennitt makes both types. The auto trim pro gives you manual or auto leveling capability. The auto spring loaded cheapies are only going to help you get a better hole shot but will also eat more fuel.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler Год назад
So these are the smart tabs I was referring to: nauticusinc.com/products/smart-tabs/ and I wasn't referencing electric or hydraulic tabs. I've been in the marine sales industry and a guide for my entire life. I'm well aware of the difference in the two. I'm sorry if I confused you
@benhodge8128
@benhodge8128 4 года назад
More drag = slower boat. No way around it Same with hydrofoils
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
Its always a trade off
@RumblesBettr
@RumblesBettr 3 года назад
Isnt the point of these that at planing speed they create almost 0 drag?
@zash008
@zash008 4 года назад
This type of tabs must be extremely dangerous! When slowing down to cross a big wake produced by a shrimp boat or tug, the tabs lower which will cause the wake to swamp the bow and throw passengers toward the front. Bennett needs to video this scenario.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
I don't think you could blame tabs for poor seamanship on the part of the captain
@zash008
@zash008 4 года назад
@@LostAngler You must not understand the real life common ocurrance scenio I was trying to describe.
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
@@zash008 the tabs don't produce that much down force. It's not like a hydraulic tab system. I live on Mobile Bay and I dont believe that I have ever heard of this scenario playing out
@zash008
@zash008 4 года назад
@@LostAngler I fish next door out of Pascagoula. Heading out using the ship channel toward Petit Bois and Horn, passing the pogey boat or a shrimp boat heading toward Ingall's or Chevron. At some point you must turn to cross these big wakes, come to a complete stop, or stay the course and the wakes take you from broad side....slowing down to cross straight into the wake is the best maneuver which will cause these type of tabs to possibly lower which is NOT a desired or safe result. Now, you say above you don't think the tabs have that kinda force or pressure. Why didn't you just say that in the first response? I haven't experienced or purchased these type of tabs first hand because this scenario made me concerned. Now that you say they don't have that kind of pressure will help others make the right choice for them if they think of the same scenario that kept me from buying them. I purchased the Bennett Bolt tabs already but have not installed them yet. I think this year tho I will start fishing out of Dauphin Island. It seems to be the same distance from my house. Thanks for clearing this question up! So others can make more informed decisions
@LostAngler
@LostAngler 4 года назад
@@zash008 No worries, sometimes leaving or responding to comments, things get lost in translation as it were. When the boat is on plane the tabs are up and really don't affect the boat as much you might think. I think they are a great addition for a boat that does not run on a pad.
@thomastirolflorida5363
@thomastirolflorida5363 3 года назад
I think they are worthless. Number one job of trim tabs are leveling port to starboard.
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