Seller Gave Up On This UTV So I Got It For CHEAP 

Came across this channel just recently and what a great channel! Loved how you methodically got to the bottom of the problem here, I really learned a lot from it. Looking forward to part 2 👏🏻👏🏻

Yeah it's something with engines they always screech when you run them without oil 😂

I really enjoy your positive attitude and detailed approach on tearing down these engines. Great Job!

Nice Odes machine you picked up Joe, though it looks like you'll need a case of W-D 40 to clean the machine and some steel wool and emry cloth to clean up the front of the winch. I have no doubt you'll make it shine, your great about doing just that.

I would like to say thank you joe I’ve recently had surgery and been in recovery I can’t work on my machines and watching your videos cures that itch I have

I think he never changed the oil and ran it without checking the oil level 'till it was almost out of oil. I think he tried changing the oil after the engine was damaged. I didn't see any dirt on the oil drain bolt nor anything the skid plate would've covered. I think he left the skid plate off after he tried to drain the little oil that was left. Adding new oil didn't help the damaged engine to run, so he sold it... Whatchu think?

Love your videos and the fearless tackle of the work. I think no matter what the outcome the point of your videos is to learn new things and troubleshoot problems and this is why I come back and watch! Please follow up with this machine as the content will help many ODES owners. Hard to find good full breakdown of these machines. Keep up the great content and keep wrenching real!!

im goin to comment before i finish the video and ask if you have looked at the fly wheel and or starter area? ive had some autos in the past sound similar with a broken flex plate/ flywheel. love the vids man. crazy how i do it all day and then come home and watch other ppl fix things i dont normally see. i appreciate how thorough you are. keep it up.

Wow I hope you are able to get that fixed, It sounds like the seller knew something like that happened and just wanted to get as much as he could for it. That oil definitely looked changed. Love these tear down videos though, good luck on the repair.

Probably rolled on side and lost oil pressure to the plain bearing and toasted it. Then filled it with fresh oil and sold it to you!

The machine looks pretty much new, so I don't think you'll do badly even with the engine overhaul. You're a hella quick mechanic, too, which helps. Your expertise makes these jobs look easy.

Hey Joe, my side by side was making the same noise. Squeak and rattle. It’s at the dealer now under warranty. But glad to know what it could be

No matter what the problem was, its great to see the teardown and learn, like you said. 👍

When you're trying to locate a sound, you can take a piece of gas line and use it as a stethoscope. Put it up to one ear and plug the other. Then probe the engine and you should be able to locate the source of the noise. Old trick my dad taught me and I'm almost 80.

When a deal is not a deal but makes a good video and looking forward to you doing a rebuild

NICE 👍 you finally took my advice and back up to your garage to unload machines. Smart move..👍👍👍

I think this is the first video I have watched from you where I felt like you might have "lost" on the deal. I still feel like you can have a solid machine after you finish the rebuild, but you will be lucky to make much money if you sell it. Great content as we watch you dig deep on this one!!!

My dad and Grandpa taught me if it's too good to be true it probably is not good but the benefit of all this is when you get it rebuilt you know what you have and you got a dump bed and another 4x4 UTV thank God you didn't pay a lot for it because what you saved is what you're going to put back in the engine and you get to teach all of us how you do it That's the benefit of it have a great day Joe enjoy

I have over 200 channels on Tv....Yet I find myself watching your videos..Keep up the great work.

I'm halfway through your video and that ODES looks more like my old Yamaha Rhino I used to have. Even the Instrument Cluster looks the same as well as the way it was a pain to remove the clutch cover as my Rhino. I know you always figure stuff out and I bet you'll have it sorted by the end of your video, but I would have pulled the primary clutch off, then try and start it before going straight to heads. Still watching...

The squeaking could be the bearing on your primary take the front half of the primary off and try moving the bearing should be able to tell immediately if it’s bad

Damn Joe when you were lifting up the bed I thought for sure you were going to put one of those "5hrs. Later" memes in there 😁😂

use a 5/16 nut driver for hose clamps it is so much easier

Glad that you post the bad deals. This is the reality of fixing up and selling. I always play it really safe and only buy when I can break even parting something out. It sucks because I pass up a lot of machines but Im on a budget.

Do you ever watch other RU-vid channel videos on diy stuff like how to make ethanol free gasoline fuel at home if you buy your own storage container for holding fuel in with A harbor freight tools electric fuel pump for pumping fuel into your atv's& etc. Around your 🏠 house. By getting two separate storage containers like oil containers the big square ones works great for that type of set-up purposes to.

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Food for thought. I would NEVER crank the engine like that after you have removed all the oil. and certainly NEVER EVER start the engine with zero oil, even for a minute. seriously, i could hear the bearings grinding away.

Looks real similar to my 2014 maverick 1000 got a rebuild kit crank cylinders pistons rings timing chains and valve seals and chain adjusters and barrings 1170.00.i got that through rev6

You might be able to get oversized bearings and have the crank ground. I would have the block and cylinders checked for squareness just because it’s so low miles to have that failure unless you can get the guy at admit to running it without oil. If your going to put that much in it finding out the cause would be a wise move. I’d also check the price of a remanufactured engine or long block vs all the parts.

Did you put oil in it? Saw you drain it but it looked like you cranked on a dry block. Also your low oil engine shut off sensor may need to be tested.

oil pump id replace that also. top end looked dry and when it was running it should have flung oil everywhere.

When you get perfectly clean oil out of a machine, just run it through a paint filter and put it back in. There's nothing wrong with it. Oil doesn't go bad, it just gets dirty.

You need to put up an out building with a small workshop and a lift on your other property so you can store everything together safely and keep it organized.

Brand new oil in a newly sold machine: we know what it means

That sucks it wasn't an easier fix. It's cool too see how you diagnose and find the issue. You can sometimes do the screw driver trick threw the spark plug hole to find bad rod bearings. You just put the screw driver in lightly resting on the piston and turn the engine over by hand and watch your screw driver go up. The moment you see the screw driver start going back down(on down stroke of piston) stop turning over the engine. Then if you push on the piston with your screw driver you can feel it pop down if the bearing is bad. It's just a quick easy way to check it without tearing down the whole engine.

My nephew bout a brand new polaris side by side,it blew up first time out!! Its been sitting at the dealorship for 5 months or so now

I know this sucks, but I'm actually excited to really watch you dig into an engine again. It's been a while from what I've seen.

Dude some of your finds are insane

Stuff like this is always a risk. Good job on diagnostics. Hopefully it's not too expensive on parts and you can make some money off the deal.

Joe, I am just blown away at your mechanical skills and the way you trouble shoot

Good video. You win some you lose some. Not a disaster. You’ll always get back what you paid. Even with a rebuild which can only add value.

Fuel pump. It sounds like the same issue I had. My 2018 Hisun 500 UTV had it fail at 100km., a year later and out of warranty. Took it to a Hisun mechanic shop that claimed to know what they were doing, after 3 weeks with them and $150.00 later, for nothing (and if did pay them they would not release it to me) they could not figure it out. I took it back home and figure out the issue myself. After replacing the entire fuel pump assembly, it runs great.

Top end looked dry when you removed the valve covers. After opening the cylinders I see you found what looks like bearing material. My guess, without watching all the video yet, is the oil pump went and it spun/ate the bearings. Bad oil pump would explain dry top end and no material in the new oil...it's not pushing oil through the motor so no metal makes it into the pan/new oil.

Love your house and location ,looks awesome. Keep up the good work

I have the same machine. It is also a 2013. Yours should of came with a windshield and a rear winch and ball combo. That's all factory standard equipment. I took my dump bed ram out and fixed the box to the frame so I could put a jump seat in the back. Now I can carry 4 and not be as long as the factory 4 seater that is as long as a limo. lol Funny that even being the same model and year there are some differences. My battery is located under the passenger seat , not under the hood. Your roof lights are round and mine rectangular. Could be because yours has the sport sticker setup and mine is camo, not sure. The only trouble I've had so far is busting off the rear bumper and breaking a tie rod end but that was me playing smash up derby and the tie rod making it fly through the air. lmao! Hope you get her all fixed up again. Your motor is baked :( . Yes it is a knock off but for what I paid new and all the standard options it has it was the best model for me.

Look very dry when taking it apart and 0 metallic flakes after turning over a lot, would definitely give the oil pump a look over before rebuilding it bro? Pleasure to watch as always it a lot of work but you will have it back up and running again bro 👍👊

I'm enjoying your videos... Do you sell the side by sides you fix? I'd be interested in buying one

No regrets joe, it's great content, the top end looks perfect, that's a plus!! Besides, it's always good knowing you did a fresh bottom end and you KNOW it's going to run perfect now!

At least with the way the rods are bolted to the crank journal is like the car so all you have to do is replace the rod bearing you don't have to send it out you just plastigage it check your clearances and away you go not like other ATV crankset have to be sent out and pressed apart

Hi 2vintage, I just started bike flipping and started on a 2 stroke pw80. It’s got an automatic clutch, I don’t know if that’s important, anyway. I got it with an idling problem, so I adjusted the carb and it idles well once you kickstart it, but the moment you’ve taken it for a ride, it doesn’t idle in neutral or in gear. I had the idle screw near closed and when I did that it idled in gear and in neutral but the idling was too high, so you maybe know what it could be? I took a lot of tips from your videos and that’s how I was learnt how to adjust the carb but I don’t know what the problem could be or if it’s still my carb settings. Thank you

When you said that the previous owner was looking at the heads, I knew this was a bad deal. When buy I always try to get a read on the sellers mechanical knowledge to know what Im getting myself into.

I've actually seen people do the rod bearings in those motors with the motor still together just unbolt the rod caps and take them out replace the bearing plastigauge it check for your clearance torque the bolts and your done

Maybe a lemon, but still. A great watch you tearing this down 😊

nice that they are 2 peice rods that saves all that pressing the crank so thats a plus

I just paid 5k for a 2017 Ford Fiesta SE, dual clutch auto/manual electric, non-turbo, with less than 80k on the clock, and mostly like new, and in blue candy metallic no less! I'm sure you could upgrade the bed dumper to a manual dumper. 😄

Don't give up. I enjoy watching you and have faith in you to fix it

Hey Joe, thanks for the video. This one taught me a lot. Sorry about it being a Bummer Deal for you though. Hopefully, you can break even at least once it's done. For only a 100 hour and 1000 mile machine, this sounds like a bit of a "Story" if you know what I mean. I am surprised and bothered by manufacturers who use Plastic Parts when they should use metal. It tells me the manufacturer doesn't really care about the reliability or longevity of their products. Just sell them to unsuspecting customers and move on. Seems like they would care about reputation, and to have Word of Mouth Sales take place because of the quality making the item a good purchase for the Customer, who then tells their friends. Instead, people watch this video, see the cheap parts and the consequences of having such cheap parts. Sure makes me want to go out and buy one just like it. Not!

Question if that’s alright. What was the issue what you were turning it over the first time it was like it never had enough power and struggled to turn over what did you do to fix it and get it to turn over better. Thanks colin

Saw you take the oil out, did not see you put in new oil.

buddy changed the oil before he tried to sell it in order to try and hide the fact that the engine is toast.... no worries big joe! you can gitter all done fixed up right! 👍

Check the one way bearing! In the primary clutch before you test it down

I never see KTM machines on your show. Do you ever see any Rotax machinery? You do a great job BTW. Wisconsin looks like nice country. 👍

Joe, for future trouble shooting, get you a stethoscope and use it to pinpoint weird noises. It works wonders, and can save you a lot of unnecessary work such as breaking an engine down when all you needed was to replace a bent push rod, for example. Another great video! Allan in Columbia, SC

You will still make a good return but not until you have invested a lot of your time. Interested that you had pistons and rings down for replacement when the top half of the engine seemed to have survived unscathed ?

Oh Boy... well, atleast it'll be a like new machine after the rebuild, & a new set of front tires joe....

I really don’t get why you don’t check the oil before you buy items. I think you do sometimes but that’s one of the first things I do

I wonder if it would work if you cut the bottom 3 inches off from a plastic 55 gallon drum and used it as a big catch pan.

A couple months ago i bought the x4 version of this for 1500 cad and made it look pretty and sold it for 8000cad

maybe you can get to the rod bearings from the oil pan?

Did you put more oil in it after you drained it you didnt on camera. Im fixing to work on a buddys arctic cat prowler 650 and it needs a lot of work but hes disabled so ill do it for him

good vids, But maybe you could give advice on what to look for when buying used ATVs and bikes!

Nice,you'll get her running.I have faith in you!

Oh boy, looks like you’ve got your work cut out for you this time! Looking forward to seeing the rebuild..

You do not need to replace the crank or the rods in that particular motor being that it has Rod caps it's as simple as unbolting them and putting new bearings in exactly like you would do in an automobile that crank does not have to be sent to be rebuilt

Hey, Joe. Will there a part two? Live all these videos.

Hard to believe you didn't check the oil level before turning it over.

The body is a copy of the Yamaha side by sides. I had a 760 Yamaha and my BIL bought one of those and tried to convince me it was the same. He found out different when I spent my time riding mine and he spent all his time working on his because it never ran more than two days in a row.

Clotch bearing. Before the clutch might be ceesed. Case baring. For clutch. Hope its easy

you take the rough with the smoothe Joe ,but a man of your Caliber will have that on the road just like that ...nice content ,just don't forget about the Hovercraft ,i hate seeing it abandoned in a field ,Neil from Wales UK

Rod bearings gone. Good luck pulling that motor, Joe your gonna need it.

When I did research on odes after seeing tons of them on marketplace for cheap I came across alot of people who said they are good machines until the engine goes. N the engine will go, hours n miles don't matter. The engines were really cheaply made, example that plastic timing chain tensioner. This is definitely one of those instances where you wanna get the good parts for the rebuild, but it wont be worth it if its just a flipper

After you drained the oil did you put more in before you tried starting it?.

Good for you making a video and putting the seller out like that grimmy selling practices.

After you drained the oil - did you refill with oil before starting it with the clutches off?

Joe sorry you have to deal with the money end but it will be a good video! 😃👍👍

Lights work always check that first because you got bent over 😂😂😂

I had a odes 1000! It was a massive UTV but the clutches are the cheap weak spots !

Very methodical, Joe. Felt sorry for you when you said at the beginning that you regretted paying $3,000. Your ear told you immediately it was going to be bad.

What a drag man, it's a decent looking rig!

It does look like someone was in there before. Interesting though. Keep the vids coming.

you can't always be lucky sorry you got hooked say JOE what happened to the hover craft? did you ever finish it?

Willing to bet the seller did a quick teardown, found what you found, then threw it back together enough to barely run, and here we are

Ck your timing it fought you like a dead battery or off timing once a sheared woodruff key did that tome wit a terra tiger good luck

The screeching was from you leaving part of the secondary on the shaft ...

19:22 thats a nice lawn oriented. What ys give 4 it?

That seller was very dishonest, he knew he destroyed the bottom end and put fresh oil in to conceal it!

I admittedly know very little, but what’s the chance that the head gasket blew and then they installed the one piston wrong on rebuilding the engine. That seller is lying, and why was there very little oil in the engine but a lot of coolant in the engine, can’t wait for next video on this rebuild. Cheers go have a beer

that be a good machine once re built at least you can do the work yourself imagine the cost of fixing it is had pay someone to fix it plus make for couple of interesting vid hopefully get enough views cover cost of parts keep up good work👍

Did you put oil back in it? It definitely was screeching after looking at the clutch but I didn't know if you put oil back in it.

That cvt clutch cover pushing against the clutch and crankshaft is probably what wrecked the engine. I wouldn't be surprised if you remove the crankshaft and the find that the main thrust bearing is wrecked from taking that side load. Notice how the engine turned over so much better when you took off the clutch cover.