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I Almost Gave Up On This CHEAP UTV ($3000 Mistake)

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I buy an Odes Dominator 800 UTV and rebuild it. #Odes, #800cc #sidebyside,
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@Jeffrose_ 11 месяцев назад

It's hard to believe such a critical part was made out of plastic. Great work Joe.

@2vintage 11 месяцев назад

Yeah I couldn't believe it

@pjm204 11 месяцев назад

Fairly common. The oil pump and water pump gears on the Vstrom/SV650 are plastic and my Vstrom has over 125,000 miles without any issue. This is not a new thing either. The timing gears on the old Ford straight 6 were plastic to reduce noise.

@13Sala13 11 месяцев назад

I have a Kawasaki engine on my lawn mower that has a plastic cam gear. That works out about as well you would think too.

@gtisid 11 месяцев назад

you'd be amazed how many big power engines use plastic gears and give you service intervals when they should be changed , just another consumable part to keep the $$$$ rolling in . and it makes less noise than metal against metal

@ricksmith4736 11 месяцев назад

Small Block Chevies had/have plastic timing gears from 60's up... The tales were that it made the engine quieter....

@thebigguy8306 11 месяцев назад

First, love the channel, have been watching it since you were popping wheelies in your parents' yard. Two, you have the knowledge and patience, to work on the problem. Third, never a total loss, stripe it down, using the frame as a foundation - build it better, stronger, faster

@snowyowl7042 11 месяцев назад

Nothing goes with scrambled eggs and coffee like a good engine teardown. Seeing joe frustrated is like extra syrup on the pancakes

@Antiquefarmequipment 11 месяцев назад

Lol!

@johnb5519 11 месяцев назад

Good going. You should always put some grease on the puller threads, plus some heat on the clutch would help it pop off.

@Trinity_Window_Products 11 месяцев назад

I was going to say heat it up too. But then it came off i was like...WHEW! He got it LOL

@lonniemartin1084 11 месяцев назад

you need too use a bigger hammer would help to

@GNX157 11 месяцев назад

Joe you need to add a Ductor induction heater to your tool set.

@norcal8718 11 месяцев назад

I really admire you Joe, not afraid to jump in and split cases on an engine you've never worked on before, most guys would say f#@k this and bring it to a shop. Good on you brotha 👍🏻

@TheCamperDanFiles 11 месяцев назад

@2vintage, I'm gonna be honest I didn't think you would ever get that clutch to come off, tenacity wins again way to go. It's amazing what one can accomplish when using a quality tool👨🏾‍🔧 Chris.

@darrynruzicka2883 11 месяцев назад

One word for the clutch pull debacle - HEAT!!!

@lloydbethel252 11 месяцев назад

Glad you didn't give up on this machine.

@cousinstu 11 месяцев назад

I've never seen a clutch take that much to get off. At one point I figured something was going to snap. You have more patience than I do! Nice job!

@MatthewSmith-to1hz 11 месяцев назад

You use chrome sockets on an impact? You're braver than I am.

@Mr_Hatfield797 11 месяцев назад

I'm probably wrong but I feel like your second piston was installed backwards. both intakes will sit in the center therefore the exhaust side would be facing away from the transmission on cylinder 2 so the arrow should be facing away from the center also if its supposed to face the exhaust.

@stephenweston2973 11 месяцев назад

I caught same thing.. Hope someone else did as well... Also use lot of assembly lube.. Its your friend.. Dont be afraid to use to much...

@rainerjaschke5216 11 месяцев назад

You 've got to love the Carpenter Hammer. Ball Peen Hammers must cost a fortune!

@thebigdustin 11 месяцев назад

Or a mini sledge.

@allan9603 11 месяцев назад

That's right Joe, take your time so we get more videos😅

@aarongrabowski3775 11 месяцев назад

You should oil the cylinder before putting the piston in. Don’t put an aluminum gear in unless you do the rest of them too. Aluminum gears will chew apart the plastic gears.

@Skis878 11 месяцев назад

the two different gasket thing is for different year engines, some take thicker/thinner gaskets for squish clearance or something along the lines.

@Trinity_Window_Products 11 месяцев назад

One thing i would've done differently was oit assembly lube on the rod bearings cause now they will dry start

@stevefairchild3337 11 месяцев назад

I like your thinking with the rebuild. Cudos on clutch removal, I was getting worried, that it was not going to come.

@just4kicks950 11 месяцев назад

Nicely done 👏👏💪. The crank failure is a big reason why the clutch was almost welded from the 🔥🔥🌡. 89% would've gave up including me & parted it out 😔 lol. Truly a nice job & wonder if they make a metal gear upgrade to correct a major flawed design 🤔. Thanks for sharing the awesome progress. I have faith in your skill set 🙆👍. Salute 🎬😎✌️

@mikereed174 11 месяцев назад

Can you say another Rinse and Repeat video, check points, check compression, check spark, change plug and don't forget to clean the project up.🤣

@frankrusso2093 4 месяца назад

Next time try water or oil. Fill it, Teflon tape the bolt real good, then impact it. I use this method to pop generator rotors off the crankshafts. Works pretty well.

@marte1a256 11 месяцев назад

I am really proud of you brother you’ve come a long way. I remember your first videos getting so much criticism and crap. Now you’re someone everybody should look up to.

@animematty 11 месяцев назад

Good morning big guy how about going the opposite direction pushing the force down

@edkennard72 11 месяцев назад

I was always taught never being a hurry never take your time Make sure everything is correct and perfect then you don't have to do it a second time I'm happy to wait for the next video it's really interesting watching you take that apart and put it back together that is actually a marvel of engineering the way they interacted everything to make it work thank you for the video you got you have a great day and I hope everything is going good for you

@krispetrov6545 11 месяцев назад

Keep grinding bro this isbthe right way

@RC-fu6hg 11 месяцев назад

I like your idea of finding a metal gear. I see a lot of manufacturers going the “plastic” route for cost savings. They just need it to make the warranty period. After that, all bets are off. Plus now they get sell the parts or dealer gets the job. Shame how companies have cheapened engineering.

@donnicoats7212 11 месяцев назад

Chrome sockets are cheap for using as impact sockets..He do es awesome work with what he has..

@keyper555 11 месяцев назад

If I ever need a ATV engine rebuilt I will contact you lol, great job on all your projects Sir, very impressed! Looking forward to see this one breath fire.

@oldjarhead386 11 месяцев назад

Never seen a clutch that stuck. But the whole time I’m watch you wrestle with that thing I’m thinking would have heated the snot out of that inner sheave before using that much pressure. But you finally got it!

@Patshes 11 месяцев назад

That was some intense watching getting the pully off.🆒😎👍💪!

@douglasknutsen 26 дней назад

I'm a retired tool and equipment mechanic. I just have tell you "no offence intended" that I have never in my career used a carpenters hammer to work on any machinery ! I would recommend you purchase some quality dead blow hard face mechanics , you won't regret it ! And by the way, stabliize your H frame press !

@benschlack5814 11 месяцев назад

You ruined the clutch with the wrong puller in the first video

@DusterNutbar 11 месяцев назад

Excited to see this one brought back from the dead! Keep at it!

@markuswatson2123 11 месяцев назад

My Dad taught me, do it right the first time and you’ll save yourself a lot of extra work. Doesn’t always work that way but I try ! You are a perfectionist and your results prove that.

@joebinder6119 11 месяцев назад

I’m thinking you need two rods and a crankshaft. I doubt that you can find someone to turn the crank, but then you need over sized bearings that they probably don’t make.

@fastfatboy1 11 месяцев назад

Next time you have a stubborn primary clutch fill the hole the puller goes into with grease. The grease causes hydraulic pressure and the clutches will pop right off with an impact.

@Woodsrider9338 9 месяцев назад

We use water and Teflon tape on our sleds, same idea less mess just need to make sure to get the water out when finished.

@higheriam 11 месяцев назад

Nice work. Progress looking good. Are you going to repaint the frame while you have the engine out? Make this thing look the part. $ 💰✨🎞️

@johnb5519 11 месяцев назад

I fixed a CBR1000rr that had a bearing that spun like that, and I had to put a new oil pump in it because the old one was all scored up from all the metal debris going through it.

@Military-Museum-LP 11 месяцев назад

My gosh Joe you are pumping these fabulous videos out !

@thatcrazyguyjay 11 месяцев назад

Always love your videos bro and I’ve learnt some thing I never even new thanks to you bro. Keep the content coming love 2 vintage bro 👌😊

@johnhummingbird6837 11 месяцев назад

Another awesome video I can't wait to see it all back together and running I'm working on a project of my own it's making me excited to get mine done and running 😊

@luuk-out-below9804 11 месяцев назад

This episode: Joe versus the clutch pulley!!

@mrfixit603 10 месяцев назад

If you look back on your first video, when you removed the cylinder jug, you remarked that it was dry of oil around the crank. That was the sign of no oil or low oil pressure. Who would have thought that they would put a plastic gear to run the oil and water pump. Cheap i guess . Being in the trade, i was as curious as you to get to the problem. Great vid, thks.

@user-jp8tl1wi7g 11 месяцев назад

Great job thus far. What a massive undertaking.

@jjjuarez312 11 месяцев назад

Never use a aluminum socket for impact very dangerous it can split in to sharpnels always use the black sockets rated for high torque also always ware safety glasses!!

@alexandreblanc2842 11 месяцев назад

Amazing deep dive ! Thanks for sharing ! Well, while learning a lot, not ready to go through it ! I was telling myself with the extractor "it's gonna strip, it's gonna strip" but it did hold ! Crazy ! Amazing video anyhow, it shows that it's not always quick and easy !

@raimoe4512 11 месяцев назад

Crazy work compared to other small engines

@Stuckin330 11 месяцев назад

Next time heat that clutch up with a tourch if your doing a bottom end anyways just put hella heat to it an it would pop rite off . It may melt crank seals but your doing the bottom end anyways

@paulweigle6872 11 месяцев назад

What a pain. Not going to lie, I would have given up a long time ago. You have the patience and skill to do this job. Good on you man.

@cylewinkler916 10 месяцев назад

Hey Joe. I dropped a comment on you FB post in the odes owners group but I just had time to finish watching this video. I have rebuilt a few of these motors & they definitely are cheap & a little different. But stay away from that aluminum gear like another comment said & I believe you put the piston in backwards on cylinder #1. The exhaust is on the front side of the motor on cylinder #1 & the back side/ transmission side of cylinder #2 which you installed correctly. Nest of luck with the wonder odes build. I have a few videos on my channel Limitless powersports service & repair of a few newer odes I have had in my shop. But of luck my friend.

@ronethridge9875 8 месяцев назад

QUALITY WORK/and check that ring gap-PROFESSIONAL /you are building a NEW ENGINE /was the new cylinder cross honed /did you take a course on mechanics any where/i just read ALL kinds of books/learn by doing too/a big nice too you/thanks much

@anthonybullis6941 11 месяцев назад

very important to change you oil according to manufacturers recommendation oil is alot cheaper than a rebuild ore new one

@SwedenLover090 5 месяцев назад

Very nice work! Yeah, its good that you take your time and dont miss anything. Love to see your videos. 🎉 You are a good mechanic and a good youtuber. ⭐️🏆🎖

@brnschr 11 месяцев назад

Same exact thing happened to my OG 2016 Can-Am maverick. The teeth on that gear broke off and I lost oil pressure. I got lucky on mine, I didn’t have to pull the engine out just the clutch and side cover to replace the oil pump and gear. Mine shut off when I lost oil pressure. This off brand machine you bought didn’t shut off. Those bearings look like they were in there a long time without oil lol

@davidfrederick392 11 месяцев назад

In the future, put some grease on those puller threads and use a 4 or 5 pound sledgehammer, instead of that little claw hammer.

@donnicoats7212 11 месяцев назад

Definitely not disappointed you didn't finish it this video..I wish I had your knowledge on builds like this..I'm really good with 2 strokes..Good video Joe..

@markyedlicka 11 месяцев назад

Having a plastic gear to drive the oil and water pump saving the company a few bucks per engine just about guarantees the customer will hate Odes for life, never buy an Odes product again and tell everyone they meet to avoid like the plague, great work Odes engineers and accountants you did it!

@bryankerr69 11 месяцев назад

I'll never understand why someone would put plastic gears in an engine, for any reason. Good idea to take your time. Looks like it's going good. Thanks for sharing.

@jeffreyhaynes5774 11 месяцев назад

Plastic is the weak link. lol .

@MLWAM 10 месяцев назад

Great video! Somtimes I find it easier to insert the piston to the cylinder before connecting it with the crank rod, it really depends on the length of the rod. However you made it look easy.

@frostbitevinnie 11 месяцев назад

Heat dat biatche clutch up!😁 Good watch Joe!

@louisjohnsonjr.4934 11 месяцев назад

I'm glad you made it as far as you have with this thing. Its been a pain in the butt since you bought it so good job Joe.

@stevemayo1175 6 месяцев назад

The Clutch Thingy that Kicked Booty Dang man Ok A Bit of Grease on the Tip of the Puller where it hits the Crank and Some Lube On the Threads of the Puller and when you get it ran down and Whacked with the Hammer Throw Some Heat on it and TING Wah Lah

@tylers1krr 11 месяцев назад

honeslty joe u might not read this but i just want to say thankyou i love bikes there my whole life and have recently just got into college to become and motorcycle mechanic and can i just say your videos and deep description about every party h check and fix is amazing there ain’t no one else on youtube that does it like u do ur such a inspiration to me and i’ve learnt a lot from your videos i’m a big step ahead in college all because of you and your deep descriptive amazing videos so from the bottom of my heart thankyou so much man your the best of the best and i mean it i can’t thankyou enough the pure depth of your videos and the specs and parts and how h describe them is exaclty what i want to learn and the way u do it and fix things is how i wanna do it so thankyou joe your my hero seriously it would be a dream of mine to meet you and work on a dirtbike some day ❤️

@FrankPerkins 11 месяцев назад

You have to call that UTV Tyson bc it put up such a tough fight!

@dowdawg 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for exposing that brand I would never ever buy those in the future

@beentheredonethat6219 5 месяцев назад

Great job! You got the clutch off! You did an amazing job!

@gtisid 11 месяцев назад

got a nod of appreciation from me for taking this thing on , my engine knowledge is pretty limited but i know a nightmare when i see one and that is a bad day. but im guessing a niche market as not many would attempt this unless you're getting $$$ an hour

@bigcaputo09 11 месяцев назад

I'm a diesel mechanic. Tractor trailers have so many plastic parts that fail as well! It's crazy!!

@thomascline8151 11 месяцев назад

Great job Joe. Nice attention to detail.

@user-hj5ml8rr8u 11 месяцев назад

DID you replace the starter anyway .?.. i cannot imagine doing all that work again to replace it ...

@jsvallee567 11 месяцев назад

i seriously thaught that clutch would never get out of there !

@2vintage 11 месяцев назад

Yeah same here. It was a tough one.

@RussellGiffin-is8pq 11 месяцев назад

Fill The hole in clutch with grease gun grease.then insert puller.had pretty good luck with it

@bradley7723 11 месяцев назад

Your skills are picking up, but do me a favor and throw that carpenters hammer into the attic. Buy yourself a new 14oz mechanics ballpeen, and a brass/plastic hammer for tapping things like rod caps, steel not so good for them. Keep with the process. 🙂

@lawrencefranck9417 11 месяцев назад

Engineers aren’t mechanics but should be.

@jeremyrich9307 10 месяцев назад

After doing polarises for some time I learned that penetration spray is a good thing also heat works

@user-sh3ms1hw5p 10 месяцев назад

you do a good job showing the repairs and trouble shooting but a heads up you need a good ballpeen shop hammer keep up the good work

@joelatkinson2080 11 месяцев назад

Also consider replacing the plastic water pump impeller with an aluminum one.

@cutum 11 месяцев назад

I'm not a mechanic, but could you have applied some heat to it? Or would the heat destroy seals etc? Great video

@ronaldrecord3011 11 месяцев назад

That engine is identical to my 2014 maverick 1000 xmr ,just did the same rebuild

@dickritchie2596 11 месяцев назад

Just like professional golfers, professional technicians make it look easy. 👌 Bravo. Great job.

@JuryRigged77 11 месяцев назад

Dude...did you use assembly lube or at least some 30 wt on the mains and rods?

@jhawk1985 11 месяцев назад

😂 some things just fight you the whole way. Glad you managed to bust that clutch off

@oliverhendersonsrresidenti8577 10 месяцев назад

I located the missing water pump gear pin. Of you go back to the video when you used the magnet to locate the pin. Tje pin is sitting in the small rectangle at the bottom right section of the gear box. You can see the tip of the pin. Like a fool I yelled out :the pin is right there". Good luck, like the content

@chrisryder1546 11 месяцев назад

Great video. Holy Moly. How do you keep track of all the parts bolts on reassembly.

@max9343 11 месяцев назад

Awesome video as always! If you didn’t have this RU-vid channel would you have still rebuilt this one or just sold it for parts?

@dtfr69 11 месяцев назад

there is a easier way to take those rods off leave the bolts in half way and tap them to release the rod and cap. way better than possibly damaging the rod itself

@Sageofhalo 11 месяцев назад

You were swinging that hammer like John Henry!!!

@arturomedrano3606 11 месяцев назад

Good videos on rebuild bike . U videos motivate me to look for my first motorcycle when I was 10 and I didn't a restoration on the bike the was a 1983 Honda atc 185s I will love to send you same picture motorcycle

@AnthonyRBlacker 11 месяцев назад

"That thing is ON there." Joe I'm thinking that's the understatement of THE YEAR!! Holy SMOKES that things is on there, it's almost like there's a PIN holding that thing on.. I'm only 6:36 in but my gosh this is.. I've seen some tough clutches to get off.. but that BOLT was about to shear off.. HOLY SMOKES!!! Wow man

@Hanky_Bannist8r 11 месяцев назад

Good job Joe. Most of getting this stuff done is having the right tools and plainly not giving up on it.

@benschlack5814 11 месяцев назад

Maybe let the air compressor build up and shut off B4 trying the gun

@benschlack5814 11 месяцев назад

Idk about rebuilt but maybe back together

@RockyFranklin 11 месяцев назад

Hey Joe I’ve been a mechanic for almost 40 years and this bye far is probably the worst power train design I’ve ever seen. Great videos I’m hooked on your channel

@paulbudford 11 месяцев назад

That clutch put up a good fight. Glad you eventually got it off .in o e piece.

@riccochet704 11 месяцев назад

And I don't know if it's worth it, but that crank can be saved. A machine shop can take that journal down 5-7 thousandths, polish it down another 3 thousandths, then use 10 thousandths oversized bearings. Or it can be filled and machined/polished down to factory spec.

@cenccenc946 11 месяцев назад

The book "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance" comes to mind. Where he is sitting on the side of the road with a broken clutch, and a stripped screw he can't get off. He realizes that five cent screw, is worth the value of the entire motorcycle. 😆