100% agreed Phil. Apple Silicon was severely overdue: yay. BUT, FX revamp was soooooo outta left field for me. It makes 0 sense because every DJ I know also doesn’t venture beyond the big three FX you mentioned. Serato’s immensely needs an overhaul with library management & organization, because it’s wildly cumbersome & dated compared to what Virtual & Algoriddim have done.
really curious that when they looked at the biggest problems they could solve, they decided more efx? major disconnect from their customer here. when you said filter, echo, reverb i was like; 💯
Software companies always balance 'biggest problem' with 'cheapest to solve' and most attractive to new customers. They didn't get rid of the primary effects they added secondary functionality, so they clearly agree thats not broken so didn't 'fix it'.
but those FX all sound the same and then all DJ sets sound THE SAME. If I have to listen to another DJM900 filter sweep for christ sake. This is progress to give DJs more creative possibilities and less of the same result.
Song Preview would be a great addition in the future. Currently, using Mix In Key’s meta data to add Energy Level has helped with my on the fly song selection
For Electronic music DJ's, effects are a bigger deal. Just ask the Dubfire's, Ian Goldens and Ritchie Hawtin's of the world. Carl Cox' current setup has a multitude of effects at his disposal. He uses them subtly but collectively they make for an awesome set. Not every reverb and echo are the same. And Techno and Melodic House DJ's like myself need more than one type to isolate specific parts of a track with. I've personally been trying different effects pedals for months to use with standalone gear. Because Pioneer's reverb just doesn't hit like the reverbs in Ableton live. Furthermore, I've been in lots of forums where Dj's often complain about how cheesy Serato effects sound. And I believe this is the reason for the upgrade.
Hundred percent agree with you. However, that isn’t most of our audience, for instance. If Traktor is where Serato is now aiming its sites that’s a little bit curious because Traktor has its part of the market stitched up and there are lots of things that Serato users are asking for that aren’t addressed here.
@@digitaldjtips You have a point Phil. This update is probably not what most of the audience here is looking for. There's just a small group of Traktor users who want the advantages that Serato brings; like live stem separation, and are hoping that the new effects are good enough for them to have the best of both worlds.
I feel like we no longer pick DJ software with the "best" features, we pick DJ software with the compromises we're willing to live with. Sad state of affairs. So many more useful features that have been ignored for years.
It’s just a tool to get you to where you want to be. Music is important. Programming is important. And mixing doesn’t need a lot of resources to do a great job of
Without track preview, Serato is a non-starter for me. I tried it but that is a big hole in the software. Especially when all the other major DVS have available. Heck, even Engine DJ has track preview in the standalone players. I believe Pioneer has as well on the 3000. Digital Music Libraries are too large for most to not have that feature.
That’s my favorite too! Is it still there in 3.2? I hope it’s not just on the channel FX because I don’t really want to sacrifice my filter knob for it, plus I have a cheaper controller that may not support the channel FX.
I wanna see the day when i can rename a folder and move it some place different and the songs from that folder inside my custom crates aren't affected.. the relocate lost files button isn't practical and has proven to be useless if you move the root folder. Also, the day I can batch highlight a bunch of crates and drag em all at once into another crate (creaing subcrates on the fly) would be the day serato earned my respect.
As a DDJ-SX user, this is exactly what I want!!!! I’m new in the game and saving up for a used SRT, but this will definitely be fun to utilize because I only have a filter on my CFX knobs 😁
Since Serato is so widely used, I can appreciate them taking the time to properly develop things and adequately test features before release. DJ.Studio’s AI beat-griding is glitchy, and their focus is to just throw in as many features as they can and let their subscribers “guinea pig” it
Sir the plan is that serato want the small controller to be using their software effect bcos the smaller controller sales more by doing this it will make DJs get use to the software effect mostly upcoming DJs I think that's the plan sir
Hi Phil! Please cover the fact that Serato just screwed up their userbase with the release of version 3.2. They've removed the option of customizing effects for license owners of Serato DJ Pro and now it's only available if you own Serato DJ Suite or their $350 FX pack. They also discontinued the support for previously owned FX packs (such as Wolf Pack) with the release of 3.2. So in the essence I had to downgrade to the version 3.1.5 in order to keep my Wolf Pack effects and the ability to increase the feedback on my Echo. To me this is the worst update in a long time and very shady work on Serato's part.
Reason I am downgrading as well. I have used their software for years and am a fan of their company... not any more. Have tried to reach out via support, no luck apart from option to downgrade.
I’m sorry to hear this and I get the sense that Serato had this forced on them because they had to change something about where they licence their effects from, only guessing but that’s my hunch
I’m looking forward to having Reverb on my knob but the thing I look forward the most to in this update is manually loops being quantized which you didnt mention.
So much fluff and little substance per usual in this video. Agreements come to an end, be it hardware or software (FX plugins) when they are not owned or developed by Serato themselves. None of this is surprising other than their FX with iZotope lasted this long.
I use the FLX 10 with a M3 MacBook air 16/512 I had this weird thing with the reverb causing a red dot when applied to the 4 decks at the same time Now it's gone so i guess this new version really offers better performance on silicon chips I also noticed faster initial loading time and stems séparation
This is actually a huge release. Yes people only use a few FX usually but now they are actually useable and sound so much better. Example 1: echo now sounds clean and isn’t distorted. And the timing is improved. This is awesome when I have to play on a controller that is sw-only FX. Example 2: filter is vastly improved. If you are a Rane Four user for example, there is no HW filter in Serato online mode. Now it sounds great without the weird audio volume drops the minute you engage HPF or LPF. Hook up two laptops, run the same track, 1 with the beta and 1 with 3.1.x and test it back and forth. Huge difference you can notice and now my only gripe with the Rane Four is gone! And Apple Silicone support is huge. Finally. It runs so smoothly on my MacBook Pro M3 Pro. The waveforms haven’t been this smooth since SSL. And the new FX UI is much more useable. This is the most important upgrade in a LONG time. Folks complain it’s not enough but I think it’s a huge bit of progress.
putting FX customization behind paywall is something so baffling to me. Coming from hardware mixers and a NI/traktor controller is a lot. Now i got a FLX4 wich is Rekordbox/serato so tried RB and its nice but im having bugs with the FX unit so decided to try serato which runs smoother on my pc but you can't customize the fx...well now u can if you pay *cries in latinoamerican
Totally agree, I don't know if more FX is what we need right now, for me would be Dynamic grids as you said, that is why I am testing DJay Pro and it works nice with Salsa and Afro Latin Music which are played and recorded with Orchestras, so they have small variations in their BPMs .
I think they need to look at beat gridding. It’s been awful for the last three years. Certain genres are all over the place. I use Lexicon DJ because it’s so difficult to quickly get grids right.
Wow! You just said what is my expections. I heard from pro DJ that Serato will never add the beatgrid function like djay pro features. Like just beatmatch manually for old songs. Completely disagree with that.
You should push on Serato to enable more than one streaming service at a time, so disappointing that it’s not there on this update, so simple to do too,
Apparently it was a "free pack available after your first login" according to support email I got. I had wolfpack attatched to my hardware account. the cfx they replaced it with is meh for me as I have a hardware filter I like. I am really pissed they removed the delay with feedback and filter controls, I think I will downgrade to get it back. Probably the most underated fx on any dj software as you could get infinite repeats and almost get to a regen dub delay sound....
I agree that only a limited number of effects (FX) are utilised for DJs performing live for an audience. The extensive range of additional effects suggests that Serato is attempting to appeal to bedroom DJs who enjoy experimenting with multiple effects.
Works like a charm. Been using on the 3.2 beta my last 3 gigs this weekend. 4 hours Friday night, 4 hours Saturday night, 4 hour Yesterday for brunch. Not one glitch or hiccup. Nothing. M1 Mac Pro MacBook Pro, 16gb ram, 2tb SSD running Ventura and using an FLX10 controller.
Feels to me like minimal updates to keep customers feeling like they're getting something while awaiting the outcome of the AlphaTheta/Serato merger. Makes sense they wouldn't want to invest too much in development and potentially diverge more from Rekordbox if they may end up merging in the foreseeable future (if that is what AlphaTheta's long term plan is).
Well as a Serato DJ I know a lot of DJs use Rekordbox, and most of those use the Noise effect. There are a number of videos trying to emulate that with Serato in its base config but not very satisfyingly. Previous of your videos have (rightly) decried how expensive Serato is for getting the same functionality as other software suites. One of those up-sells is the effects package addon which we have to pay additionally to access. From the preview we'll get that effect. And quick access to changing the most easily accessed hardware knob for filtering to a preferred primary would be handy. But yea.. other things would be nice.
Best of luck... those 'newer' features that are already out on the other platforms may come to serato in the next 2-3 years. They hv a great record in playinh catch up.
@@digitaldjtips I tried it with an upcoming RANe model. I LOVE the focus on stems and effects as far as the rest goes it's very familiar. I just think it's a missed opportunity that we still have to press start first before being able to trigger hot cues without the song stopping the second you let go.
yessssss i was thinking the same thing not lots of djs use to many FX and yes they need to do something about the beat grid and the liberty hope we see some thing like that on next up date
Totally agree with you Phil!!! If I use any effects it’s mainly echoe, some HF, LF, and once in a while flanger but I would prefer Serato to work on other things like song preview, making stems better (which they’re better than RB), etc. But I’m sure they’re doing an overall update due to the Rane Performer soon to be released (whenever that’ll be).
I’m pretty sure they’ll surprise us with other developments they’re working on. Guess we’ll have to wait until the release of the updated software comes out.
Has it been using Rosetta this whole time? To be fair I found it was working pretty well, I have an M1 and I could access stems pretty much instantly. I wasn't pre-preparing them either, just using the option to process stems on song load.
Poor take. The ability to recall big or small reverbs and delays is a big thing on hardware, namely the DJMV10. Only Traktor has done it well in software; thanks to advanced MIDI, modifiers and macros. Good on Serato for having a go at it.
In my opinion they need to fix the core essential functions before messing around with things like Fx. 95% of my tracks are still drifting out of time faster than I can bring them in. That’s after manually beat gridding all my tracks to insure they have the correct bpm and grids!. Literally I beat match and by time I’ve faded the track in its out of time like way out like a bar out of time!. To me it’s like a company releasing the most spectacular supercar you’ve ever seen. With mind blowing specs and technology…. But it overheats and breaks down after 500meters. So it’s a useless car because it can’t do the core essentials that a car is meant to do. Same for serato in my experience it can’t do the core basic functions of enabling djing so it’s useless software for me at least.
Thats not something that Serato normally does and is specific to your setup somehow. Whether thats weak cpu or improper 'manual beatgridding' being done wrong.
Absolutely I'm more of an open source DJ and I will say the only effects I use is echo maybe filter and reverb I've been faithful to native instruments tractor I recently let it Go by a little over a year ago to jump on serato serratos been good in some ways and bad and others and then I came across algorithm DJ I got that I use algorithm DJ just for the same reason you just mentioned big red and loop function is flawless it beats serato tractor record box hands down so right now I'm using algorithm DJ it's a better software as far as looping anything from the 70s is phenomenal it's always a perfect look so right now I'm rocking with algorithm serato needs to catch up 🎚️🎚️🎚️💪🏿💯
When you look at software in other sectors like photography, video editing and music production, djay Pro is the closest to a comparable platform in DJ software as far as being the most modern goes.
